AccuBattery detects the X1M3 battery as 4380 mAh which contradicts official literature. However, that's not to say it's incorrect. Is it truly 4500 mAh? Not been able to find a teardown yet, unsurprisingly.
Consider Accubattery's measurement an estimate. I find it's history of SOT useful for spotting excessive battery usage as I know what it should be using per hour SOT as well as at rest
3C battery monitor reports the same. (Sony XQ-BC52)
This is a helpful start to your question: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-battery-capacity-and-rated-capacity
What is the difference between typical capacity and rated capacity in batteries?
Answer (1 of 4): Rated capacity is what the battery can store and deliver according to the manufacturer. Using any form of lead-acid battery and utilising its full rated capacity by daily cycling it 100%,will result in a speedy destruction thereof. In practice, it is recommended that lead-acid ba...
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bbot3k said:
This is a helpful start to your question: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-battery-capacity-and-rated-capacity
What is the difference between typical capacity and rated capacity in batteries?
Answer (1 of 4): Rated capacity is what the battery can store and deliver according to the manufacturer. Using any form of lead-acid battery and utilising its full rated capacity by daily cycling it 100%,will result in a speedy destruction thereof. In practice, it is recommended that lead-acid ba...
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This answers nothing. 3C battery monitor reads the data from the battery profile set by the manufacturer. So sony states that the xperia 1 III has an 4500mAh battery, but the profile reports 4380mAh. Thats quite a difference.
firithmorgulion said:
This answers nothing. 3C battery monitor reads the data from the battery profile set by the manufacturer. So sony states that the xperia 1 III has an 4500mAh battery, but the profile reports 4380mAh. Thats quite a difference.
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Many manufacture do this, they round the figure, so sony is still correct.
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Hi, A few days ago I read an xda thread about someone who had piggybacked AA batteries to power his S7. As an answer, there was a good explanation about the risks caused by the batteries' low amperage, about the possible heat and the risks related to overload.
The idea has merit though because we all know that if there's something less than stellar on the S7, it's that the battery has a short operation time. So I wonder if, instead of using AA Alkalines, it would be better to use rechargeable AA energizer batteries. They rate 2450 mAh.
I use mine in Nikon speedlights and they can produce at least 500 shots before a complete discharge, even in almost continuous shooting. They also reload the flash's capacitors much faster than Alkalines.
The output from the s7's charger is 5V at 2000 mAh and the battery's operating voltage is 3.7V at 2200 mAh (charging limited voltage is 4.2V).
What if I made a pack of 3 or 4 of those batteries, producing 4,5V or 6 V and connected this pack to the device's AC plug? Would it be of any use to prolong the operation time of the device? Is it safe for the device? Is there any risk to burn something that way?
Thanks a lot for any info that you can give me.
T
That is something that I´m asking myself for long time.
I think, for what I´ve read and get opinion, if we won´t use a battery higher than 3.7V (4.2V) there is no problem; even considering that we can maximize the mAh for an higher value, like 6600mAh for example.
The importance is the Voltage and not the mAh.
Would like to read more about it from a person that can give some good technical advice.
Thanks
best regards
pedro
My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
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yes you can do that but third party bateries are not as much reliable as manufacturers, i would recomend to have 2 or more bateries form phone producer and swap them as needed.
asifemon0 said:
My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
[email protected]
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Yes! yes! yes ! Don't use powerful battery than device providers suggestion . More powerful battery can destroy devices harsware .
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asifemon0 said:
My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
[email protected]
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I think you mean mAh, maybe your autocorrect has gone haywire the capacity of a battery is measured in this unit... Milliampere hours. This is the amount of energy that the battery will allow to let 1 amp of current to flow in one hour. A mAh is NOT a measurement of energy, is a measurement of the speed of the flow of energy... Therefore it's nothing to do with the "power" of the battery. So to answer your question, a 2000mAh battery is absolutely fine as long as its from a reputable manufacturer such as Ankers or Mugen; DO NOT buy any higher capacity batteries with no brand name off eBay. If you're having trouble figuring out if the battery you want is safe then just post the link here and I'll check it out for you . another option would be to get a battery from you phone manufacturer which is higher capacity, for example many HTC phones use the same size battery but some are different capacities... Yeah beats me too :silly:
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Yes! yes! yes ! Don't use powerful battery than device providers suggestion . More powerful battery can destroy devices harsware .
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This is incorrect. Using a battery of a different voltage would be damaging, but I expect all phone batteries are similar, if not the same, voltage. A battery which provides too much current may be damaging too. But a higher capacity battery is perfectly safe provided the potential difference and current are the same as usual.
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I think you mean mAh, maybe your autocorrect has gone haywire the capacity of a battery is measured in this unit... Milliampere hours. This is the amount of energy that the battery will allow to let 1 amp of current to flow in one hour. A mAh is NOT a measurement of energy, is a measurement of the speed of the flow of energy... Therefore it's nothing to do with the "power" of the battery. So to answer your question, a 2000mAh battery is absolutely fine as long as its from a reputable manufacturer such as Ankers or Mugen; DO NOT buy any higher capacity batteries with no brand name off eBay. If you're having trouble figuring out if the battery you want is safe then just post the link here and I'll check it out for you . another option would be to get a battery from you phone manufacturer which is higher capacity, for example many HTC phones use the same size battery but some are different capacities... Yeah beats me too :silly:
This is incorrect. Using a battery of a different voltage would be damaging, but I expect all phone batteries are similar, if not the same, voltage. A battery which provides too much current may be damaging too. But a higher capacity battery is perfectly safe provided the potential difference and current are the same as usual.
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You are right . But most people choose their battery by the size .
No one care it's voltage . I know some of them who damaged their device.
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Fellow Note 8 users, I recently got to replace my 1.5 yr old battery with a new bigger capacity one. 3500mah from Polarcell... Once I get a few charge cycles going with this one I'll post results!
I had 255 charge cycles on the old one and fg_asoc was 92, fullcapnom 2890.
Evidently as I'm a very curious person, I had to test the capacity of the old battery with a high tech hobby charger/discharger from Junsi, the 4010 DUO. As it stands out, fully charging the battery to 4.4V and then doing a deep discharge to 3V netted me 3273mAh. Be aware that this is a way deeper charge/discharge cycle than the phone would ever do. In order to prolong lifespan, Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec, it remains to be seen. I'll conduct more tests, and keep everybody posted.
Ask away any question the you may have and don't be bummed out it your Galaxy battery is reporting lower capacity from the start. It may not be the case.
Cheers,
Andrei.
daffster21 said:
Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec,
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I've notice DJI doing the same thing with my Phantom 3 drone batteries whenever I use a hobby-grade charger connected directly to the terminals of the battery itself. I say this is a good design by Samsung if it is as you are suggesting.
Good thinking, I have a ph3 battery lying around wi5h no more than 50 cycles on it. I could measure that too!
You need to remember that your Phantom 3 batteries have a nominal 4.35V per cell as opposed to the usual 4.2, so you would need to factor this in to your hobby grade charger. I have a Hyperion EOS.... model. I've used this to "revive" several phone and laptop cells in the past (once the cell isn't internally damaged).
I don't think one needs to be concerned about fg_asoc or fg_fullcapnom once there isn't too much deep discharging of the cells.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Sometimes I undercharge my ph3 batteries by 0.05v to make them last longer. The 4010 duo is one hell of a charger and I love it!
Back to the note 8 battery, I'm getting spectacular battery life with the new bigger cell and the One UI update. Currently at 60% remaining with 24h of use and 3h of SOT. Stellar!
Cheers!
Just a question, did they reseal the back cover for waterproofing after?
There's no they, I did it myself. Bought some original Tesa double sided tape from ifixit.com and it worked great.
Hi,
in past it was possible to check real current battery capacity in mAh. I mean in service menu when you type:
*#*#7378423#*#*
Now there is no info on battery capacity.
Any idea how to check it?
Maybe different code?
I have my doubts Android reports it even close to accurately. Maybe Sony does it better but run time is generally the best indicator of actual capacity. Accubattery Pro's mAh gauge gives a good -relative- vs actual measurement. Again Accubattery's discharge history ie run time is the best method I've found.
Hello everyone i have made some research last day and start to thinking of upgrade the battery from 4500 mAh to 5000 mAh, they look quite similar on pictures , i don't find yet any detail in size. If it will be possible then I will lost wireless charging and reverse charging but will get approx.11% battery capacity+. I thinking that this battery in mix 4 is very law quality barely get 4 hours with dual sim, 60 hz and so on. Buy phone to just turn off ll it's features just to get battery life stable is not good. I am on xiaomi.eu 14...
Lost 40% in big sunny day just in 15 minutes and falling from less then 20 to 1 with the blink of an eye.
So is anyone have idea where can foumd more details about the size of battery let me know or maybe someone think bout it before.
I have other Xiaomi 12 T Pro, Poco f 2 pro, and other with global and non of the have similar issue with drain of battery like mix 4.
Actually the pics shows 11 T Pro with the 4860 mAh with wireless charging , but the option is also 12 T Pro with 5000 mAh without
Quick updated i find info that this phone was planned to be lunched with BM58 5000mAh ,120 W, no wireless. Instead was lunched with 4500 mAh wireless.
Do BM58 should be good to go ,questions is how this 500mAh extra will worki???
Hello, I already did the test of putting the 5000mah one. The phone simply does not turn on, I don't know if it is because it is not compatible or because it does not have a charge. If you put it to charge, the battery icon appears but no current passes since I measured it with a USB meter
You mean the BM 58?
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¿Te refieres al BM 58?
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Ok thanks for info,
How's your current battery capacity? I've been using my Mix 4 since September 2021 and if Accubattery and the debug log are to be believed, my battery deterioration has been brutal.
Accubattery: Estimated 2395 mAh
Debug log:
Statistics since last charge:
System starts: 0, currently on battery: true
Estimated battery capacity: 1962 mAh
Last learned battery capacity: 1978 mAh
Min learned battery capacity: 1978 mAh
Max learned battery capacity: 1982 mAh
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I not use the app anymore so don't know real capacity.
those types of applications have problems with dual cell batteries, they are only half as big. For example, the ampere app detects double the voltage and that is impossible because otherwise the motherboard would burn