Hello . I have a question about the Galaxy S23 ultra from 2023 all models are equipped with snapdragon 888 gen 2 before in B model Samsung use their exynos chip so what's the best deal the main difference now between U model And B , can we change our U model csc to like B to enable call recording, can we flash B model firmware on it ?
The biggest difference is that u and u1 models can never be oem unlocked because samsung completely removed that option from the software. The other models can be oem unlocked.
Without oem unlock root and BL unlock is just not possible.
As for csc changes, I've tried to change my u1 csc to a B csc and it just won't do it. As for call recording I can't get native to work on the u1 but I have the app called skvalex call recorder and it works on my S23U
spart0n said:
The biggest difference is that u and u1 models can never be oem unlocked because samsung completely removed that option from the software. The other models can be oem unlocked.
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Your comment seems to suggest it is Samsung's choice to remove that option, while I understand it is merely a locally imposed requirement (providers? authorities?)
OnnoJ said:
Your comment seems to suggest it is Samsung's choice to remove that option, while I understand it is merely a locally imposed requirement (providers? authorities?)
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It's not local or providers because other devices sold here can be oem unlocked same as the carriers here allow oem unlocks on devices. Just not samsung. I've been told it's Qualcomm that makes samsung do this but why would they just do it to samsung because Qualcomm supplies components for other manufacturers that sell here yet they can be oem unlocked. The way I see it, it's just a way for samsung to prevent using any other roms on their devices in the US.
My question is why we cannot flash B firmware on it and does U model also has dual sim hardware like B and E model
jahanzaiblohani said:
My question is why we cannot flash B firmware on it and does U model also has dual sim hardware like B and E model
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No dual physical sim but there's 1 sim and esim but you can try to flash the B firmware but it gives an error. I'm willing to bet that even if you could force the flash that it wouldn't boot because samsung would probably make it a brick on purpose for anyone who tried to force it.
I had Galaxy s21 Fe snapdragon model single sim no esim and I converted it to dual sim a physical dual sim device
Both have physically different antenna/modems in them.
jahanzaiblohani said:
Hello . I have a question about the Galaxy S23 ultra from 2023 all models are equipped with snapdragon 888 gen 2 before in B model Samsung use their exynos chip so what's the best deal the main difference now between U model And B , can we change our U model csc to like B to enable call recording, can we flash B model firmware on it ?
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S918U/U1 USA version
Single physical Sim + Esim
5G mmwave antennas
No native call recording can be enabled
Only supports USA CSC
No Unlockable bootloader thus no Root
S918 B
Global version excluding
(US ,China,Canada,tiwan ,HongKong,Korea )
Best version for users ourside US
2 Physical sims + esim
Call recording & other stuff can be enabled by CSC change
Better support for 4g&5g bands worldwide compared to ( US , China & Korea versions)
hoss_n2 said:
S918U/U1 USA version
Single physical Sim + Esim
5G mmwave antennas
No native call recording can be enabled
Only supports USA CSC
No Unlockable bootloader thus no Root
S918 B
Global version excluding
(US ,China,Canada,tiwan ,HongKong,Korea )
Best version for users ourside US
2 Physical sims + esim
Call recording & other stuff can be enabled by CSC change
Better support for 4g&5g bands worldwide compared to ( US , China & Korea versions)
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Wow, I haven't had Samsung since S3 but was looking at the ultra; and seen unlocked on Amazon(referring to network I suppose), I'm sure thankful to see this info. I was thinking about getting the international version for T-Mobile in US? Thanks for suggesting, advice, etc.
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Hi All, I have unlock ATT version, then switch to T mobile service (flash T mobile firmware). Now I switch to Sprint firmware. HOwever My ATT ver didn't have the band 25 and 26. Only have band 41. Sprint needs all 3 for better connection. Is there away to unlock 25 and 26 band?
Unlock S9 plus vers and other have all bands
sweetboy02125 said:
Hi All, I have unlock ATT version, then switch to T mobile service (flash T mobile firmware). Now I switch to Sprint firmware. HOwever My ATT ver didn't have the band 25 and 26. Only have band 41. Sprint needs all 3 for better connection. Is there away to unlock 25 and 26 band?
Unlock S9 plus vers and other have all bands
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The G965U and G965U1 are identical hardware wise and all support the same bands. What differentiates the G965U from the G965U1 is the that the G965U1 has the unlocked firmware (non carrier branded if that term makes more sense).
The only thing that differentiates one G965U from another G965U is the firmware. The firmware determines what bands are available as well as custom carrier settings/apps/configurations that is installed. For example if you properly flash the firmware for the Sprint G965U onto the AT&T G965U then it will have all the bands (and sprint customization/bloat) that the Sprint G965U version has.
To give you an example I have the sprint version, flashed it to the unlocked firmware, flashed to AT&T firmware and then finally to T-mobile. I didn't flash it in that order, that is just the different kinds of firmwares I have had on that phone.
Across the different firmware versions all necessary and needed bands were active and working just fine.
scottusa2008 said:
The G965U and G965U1 are identical hardware wise and all support the same bands. What differentiates the G965U from the G965U1 is the that the G965U1 has the unlocked firmware (non carrier branded if that term makes more sense).
The only thing that differentiates one G965U from another G965U is the firmware. The firmware determines what bands are available as well as custom carrier settings/apps/configurations that is installed. For example if you properly flash the firmware for the Sprint G965U onto the AT&T G965U then it will have all the bands (and sprint customization/bloat) that the Sprint G965U version has.
To give you an example I have the sprint version, flashed it to the unlocked firmware, flashed to AT&T firmware and then finally to T-mobile. I didn't flash it in that order, that is just the different kinds of firmwares I have had on that phone.
Across the different firmware versions all necessary and needed bands were active and working just fine.
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Yes, i put in Sprint Sim on the phone then the phone auto removed the Tmobile apps and installed bunch of Sprint apps. I checked the specs for ATT ver and only see band 41 avail online. After Sprint firmware installed, I check again *#0011# and only see band 41. I was too assumed everything should be identical both S9 plus U or U1 but there must me something got block by ATT and carrier firmwares still can't unlock it.
sweetboy02125 said:
Yes, i put in Sprint Sim on the phone then the phone auto removed the Tmobile apps and installed bunch of Sprint apps. I checked the specs for ATT ver and only see band 41 avail online. After Sprint firmware installed, I check again *#0011# and only see band 41. I was too assumed everything should be identical both S9 plus U or U1 but there must me something got block by ATT and carrier firmwares still can't unlock it.
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Did you flash the sprint firmware onto the at&t phone you have or did you just insert the sim card and let the phone apply the settings for the sim card?
If you did the latter (specifically just changing the sim card) this doesn't give you any of the carrier specific tweaks/customizations that can be found on the carrier firmware. For thse tweaks/customizations you need to flash the firmware for the carrier branded phone. So your better connection desire will most likely be a sprint firmware specific thing and not found on the at&t firmware.
Also looking up what the at&t branded phone supports and the sprint branded phone supports won't help much. It will only tell you what the two phones are configured to do for the carrier the phone is branded for. Those specs It do not tell you what the hardware can do (or that the hardware is the same whether it be the unlocked version from Samsung, the sprint branded one you buy from sprint or the at&t branded one purchased through at&t).
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Did you flash the sprint firmware onto the at&t phone you have or did you just insert the sim card and let the phone apply the settings for the sim card?
If you did the latter (specifically just changing the sim card) this doesn't give you any of the carrier specific tweaks/customizations that can be found on the carrier firmware. For thse tweaks/customizations you need to flash the firmware for the carrier branded phone. So your better connection desire will most likely be a sprint firmware specific thing and not found on the at&t firmware.
Also looking up what the at&t branded phone supports and the sprint branded phone supports won't help much. It will only tell you what the two phones are configured to do for the carrier the phone is branded for. Those specs It do not tell you what the hardware can do (or that the hardware is the same whether it be the unlocked version from Samsung, the sprint branded one you buy from sprint or the at&t branded one purchased through at&t).
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This makes sense. I'll will try to flash Sprint firmware on top right now. The reason I said tweaks/customization applied because the whole UI "Settings" of the change completely changed from Tmobile Pie to Sprint Pie (more buttons, header rename...) so I assume tweaks/customizations already applied when Sprint Simcard did its own things
Also I thought the base S9 Pie for U ver all the same. Only when you put the Carrier simcard in then they download their all carrier settings (Not in this case?
sweetboy02125 said:
This makes sense. I'll will try to flash Sprint firmware on top right now. The reason I said tweaks/customization applied because the whole UI "Settings" of the change completely changed from Tmobile Pie to Sprint Pie (more buttons, header rename...) so I assume tweaks/customizations already applied when Sprint Simcard did its own things
Also I thought the base S9 Pie for U ver all the same. Only when you put the Carrier simcard in then they download their all carrier settings (Not in this case?
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Carrier settings (APN, MMS/SMS settings, PRL, Roaming lists and related) are not quite the same when it comes to bands being enabled/disabled or carrier tweaks/customizations. Also I don't know if the base for the s9+ contains all the full carrier customizations/tweaks or not when it comes to android pie. If I had to guess I would say it probably comes with a somewhat generic one size fits all configuration... Perhaps along the lines of what the U1 firmware has.
Though I would presume that the base does not have all the carrier customizations/tweaks because the carriers release android pie at different times.
As an example (for illustrative purposes to explain my presumption) AT&T releases the new update before T-mobile does. T-mobile releases the update before Verizon does. Because Verizon would have been the last to release the update both AT&T and T-Mobile would not have any of the additions Verizon would have made.
When flashing the sprint firmware onto the AT&T phone you have you may need to flash the U1 firmware first, do a factory data reset and then flash the G965U firmware for sprint. Someone else might have some insight if this is still applicable for Android Pie, but when I flashed from sprint to t-mobile using the Oreo firmware that is the process I had to go through.
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Carrier settings (APN, MMS/SMS settings, PRL, Roaming lists and related) are not quite the same when it comes to bands being enabled/disabled or carrier tweaks/customizations. Also I don't know if the base for the s9+ contains all the full carrier customizations/tweaks or not when it comes to android pie. If I had to guess I would say it probably comes with a somewhat generic one size fits all configuration... Perhaps along the lines of what the U1 firmware has.
Though I would presume that the base does not have all the carrier customizations/tweaks because the carriers release android pie at different times.
As an example (for illustrative purposes to explain my presumption) AT&T releases the new update before T-mobile does. T-mobile releases the update before Verizon does. Because Verizon would have been the last to release the update both AT&T and T-Mobile would not have any of the additions Verizon would have made.
When flashing the sprint firmware onto the AT&T phone you have you may need to flash the U1 firmware first, do a factory data reset and then flash the G965U firmware for sprint. Someone else might have some insight if this is still applicable for Android Pie, but when I flashed from sprint to t-mobile using the Oreo firmware that is the process I had to go through.
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I would debate on the example (for illustrative purposes to explain my presumption) you had above, I don't think carriers are related. I would think Google/Samsung (Google may give the base to Samsung first then Samsung distribute to each carrier) give each carrier the base then each carrier goes customize their own settings with their own times to release to us.
Yes the correct way to flash to U1 then flash back to be clean (I guess And I did that when switch from ATT to Tmobile) But i have to much to setup again, so may just dirty flash Sprint now
PS: Still can't find the Sprint Pie in Sammobile website. Only Verizon and Tmobile and Generic ver
scottusa2008 said:
Did you flash the sprint firmware onto the at&t phone you have or did you just insert the sim card and let the phone apply the settings for the sim card?
If you did the latter (specifically just changing the sim card) this doesn't give you any of the carrier specific tweaks/customizations that can be found on the carrier firmware. For thse tweaks/customizations you need to flash the firmware for the carrier branded phone. So your better connection desire will most likely be a sprint firmware specific thing and not found on the at&t firmware.
Also looking up what the at&t branded phone supports and the sprint branded phone supports won't help much. It will only tell you what the two phones are configured to do for the carrier the phone is branded for. Those specs It do not tell you what the hardware can do (or that the hardware is the same whether it be the unlocked version from Samsung, the sprint branded one you buy from sprint or the at&t branded one purchased through at&t).
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Shouldn't have to flash the phone should install the firmware as soon as you install the Sim card
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sweetboy02125 said:
Hi All, I have unlock ATT version, then switch to T mobile service (flash T mobile firmware). Now I switch to Sprint firmware. HOwever My ATT ver didn't have the band 25 and 26. Only have band 41. Sprint needs all 3 for better connection. Is there away to unlock 25 and 26 band?
Unlock S9 plus vers and other have all bands
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All models are the same. Their just blocked in att firmware same goes for vzws B13. Your phone will install the firmware when you put in the sim card
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tengen31 said:
Shouldn't have to flash the phone should install the firmware as soon as you install the Sim card
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All models are the same. Their just blocked in att firmware same goes for vzws B13. Your phone will install the firmware when you put in the sim card
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You are right, I saw 25 and 26 now. Sim card will download and unlock the band needed
sweetboy02125 said:
You are right, I saw 25 and 26 now. Sim card will download and unlock the band needed
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Yep. My S8 did it,so does my S9+
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I am not sure if this would work or not and I haven't done this for a while. I might have the wrong service code or the menu option may have changed with android pie. So if I do someone feel free to correct it.
Note - if you see a message like RAT access/menu isnt allowed (or something like this) power off the phone, take the sim card out and power the phone on without the sim card in it. The process should work then.
*Open the phone app and enter ##DATA# (##3282#)
*Choose edit and if prompted enter a total of siix zeros as the MSL
*Select LTE to edit the active bands
From there you can enable or disable bands. If the band isn't listed you simply cant just add it. I would suggest flashing the carrier firmware as this would have it enabled.
Also I do believe that there are carrier customization/tweaks that may only be on the firmware from the carrier. Swapping the sim may change a few apps, change a few menu items and apply settings from the sim card onto the phone. It also may apply some (or perhaps most) carrier settings. I have not seen anything that gives me cause to believe that it applies all the carrier customization/tweaks.
If that were the case why did my g96u1 (or sprint g965u) firmware not show video calling or get provisioned for it, but flashing the tmobile firmware allowed for the feature to be enabled and provisioned. Also on the tmobile firmware I have had better signal retention and strength (not the signal bars, actual signal strength measurements on the phone) then with the unlocked firmware (or the original firmware that was on the phone with the tmobile sim).
If swapping the sim installs the tmobile firmware then that should have been all it took and I could continue to use the unlocked firmware, but this was not the case. The only features that were enabled were (outside of menu changes and app additions) VoLTE and WiFi calling. Now if this alone indicates carrier firmware specific features/tweaks/customizations can only reside on carrier firmware, then how could one declare it wouldn't also effect what bands are enabled/disabled. Like I said I haven't seen anything that says otherwise, but from what I have seen first hand there are somethings that are apparently only on the carrier's firmware that is not available on the others.
Im very sorry im not a developer,i need to change my LTE to VOLTE on galaxy s9 plus USA version which i have bought it on AMAZON a month before,is that possible bro's,i searched many forums and youtube videos,but i didnt get any proper solution,BUT one developer i found on youube telling that he has UAE phone and he changed it to INDIAN by doing frimware,im not aware of anything,please help me bro's, my model is SM-G965U1 ( US version )i need to change to SM-G965F (Europe,Global version, i thought that it will support VOLTE ),is there any way brooooooooo's
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Im very sorry im not a developer,i need to change my LTE to VOLTE on galaxy s9 plus USA version which i have bought it on AMAZON a month before,is that possible bro's,i searched many forums and youtube videos,but i didnt get any proper solution,BUT one developer i found on youube telling that he has UAE phone and he changed it to INDIAN by doing frimware,im not aware of anything,please help me bro's, my model is SM-G965U1 ( US version )i need to change to SM-G965F (Europe,Global version, i thought that it will support VOLTE ),is there any way brooooooooo's
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All G965U and U1 models have locked bootloaders. There is no way to enable OEM Unlock.
You can't use G965F files on it since the hardware is completely different.
Always check for VoLTE compatibility before buying. The G965U/U1 is intended for US markets only.
Hi. I want to flash a Brazilian firmware (dual SIM) into my US hardware (single SIM). Both are Snapdragon. Reason is that I want to use the Brazilian Samsung Pay. Bough the phone in the US but I live in Brazil.
Can I flash THIS ROM without problems? Will it trigger Knox? Any loss in functionality?
Thank you all.
gustavrsh said:
Hi. I want to flash a Brazilian firmware (dual SIM) into my US hardware (single SIM). Both are Snapdragon. Reason is that I want to use the Brazilian Samsung Pay. Bough the phone in the US but I live in Brazil.
Can I flash THIS ROM without problems? Will it trigger Knox? Any loss in functionality?
Thank you all.
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gustavrsh said:
Hi. I want to flash a Brazilian firmware (dual SIM) into my US hardware (single SIM). Both are Snapdragon. Reason is that I want to use the Brazilian Samsung Pay. Bough the phone in the US but I live in Brazil.
Can I flash THIS ROM without problems? Will it trigger Knox? Any loss in functionality?
Thank you all.
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not possible. also, is there not a CSC for your area you can flash instead?
I don't know why these guys say it's not possible, maybe it isn't with your model. I also don't want to give you any bad ideas or anything, so use your own discretion & research.
My phone was unusable when I did this, so I had nothing to lose when I did this (It worked though).
I easily flashed my canadian note 8 with a us firmware using modified odin (must be same version bootloader).
It has warranty status 0x0 (aka, Knox is NOT tripped).
AGAIN, I'm not advising you try this with your model, unless you know what you're doing. I just want to make the information available to you.
Edit: I'm just waiting for someone to upload snapdragon beta 3 one ui 2.0. I'm going to try the same method to convert my Canadian s9+ to USA version.
Edit 2: I can confirm this method works on my Canadian s9+ aswell.
Amb669 said:
I don't know why these guys say it's not possible, maybe it isn't with your model. I also don't want to give you any bad ideas or anything, so use your own discretion & research.
My phone was unusable when I did this, so I had nothing to lose when I did this (It worked though).
I easily flashed my canadian note 8 with a us firmware using modified odin (must be same version bootloader).
It has warranty status 0x0 (aka, Knox is NOT tripped).
AGAIN, I'm not advising you try this with your model, unless you know what you're doing. I just want to make the information available to you.
Edit: I'm just waiting for someone to upload snapdragon beta 3 one ui 2.0. I'm going to try the same method to convert my Canadian s9+ to USA version.
Edit 2: I can confirm this method works on my Canadian s9+ aswell.
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Yeah I don't think it'll work on mine, since it's a single sim phone, and the ROM I wanted was for a dual sim version. Unless of course the hardware is the same and the second SIM slot is present. I could try, but I don't want to risk it. Maybe later when Sammy stops updating the phone.
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not possible. also, is there not a CSC for your area you can flash instead?
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Unfortunately not. The SM-G965U1 is the US unlocked version. There are only CSCs for American carriers.
gustavrsh said:
Yeah I don't think it'll work on mine, since it's a single sim phone, and the ROM I wanted was for a dual sim version. Unless of course the hardware is the same and the second SIM slot is present. I could try, but I don't want to risk it. Maybe later when Sammy stops updating the phone.
Unfortunately not. The SM-G965U1 is the US unlocked version. There are only CSCs for American carriers.
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if its truly unlocked, then you should already have the U1 firmware on it. Get modded Odin and the U1 firmware, flash it in Odin and go from there. I never looked back after ditching the carrier junk on my phone
Sometime ago I did somethinh like that on my Arabian S7 Edge that I bough in Paraguai, it was Dual Sim model and i flashed ZTO CSC via Odin, and the phone was working well, but i'm not sure if the reverse works, and even the models were similar (F vs FD version) in your case u have 965U vs 9650, I would not take that risk, i thing that a korean or chinese model is 9650 too
look at this picture, US version has more bands so the modem could be different, you can try but you're risking your phone
davenasc said:
look at this picture, US version has more bands so the modem could be different, you can try but you're risking your phone
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yep, they are different phones that just so happen to use the same processor. Different bootloader, same chassis for whatever reason. Anyways, there have been threads talking about converting the 9650 to a 965u, but ive never seen anyone confirming that it indeed works. Big risk, but as long as one can get back to Odin mode, one should be good.
I don't know if it has been asked before but is it possible to flash H930DS firmware to simple H930 to make the dual sim option work as there is already Dual Sim option in network settings after inserting two sims in the phone.
This has worked many times in samsung phones especially in S8 series.
maniImaster said:
I don't know if it has been asked before but is it possible to flash H930DS firmware to simple H930 to make the dual sim option work as there is already Dual Sim option in network settings after inserting two sims in the phone.
This has worked many times in samsung phones especially in S8 series.
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No.
You can flash H930DS firmware over H930 -- but your modem bands stay the same and it's still single SIM capability.
I just bought US model of s23ultra, but I actually live in Taiwan
the issue is none of it's the carrier aggregation is supported here
so I wonder if it is possible to flash SM-S9180's firmware on SM-S918U1 device ??
if it can:
1. Can I get future update by OTA??
2. Will it break Knox??
if it can't, is there any other alternative way to change the the carrier aggregation setting ??
xiaoguei said:
I just bought US model of s23ultra, but I actually live in Taiwan
the issue is none of it's the carrier aggregation is supported here
so I wonder if it is possible to flash SM-S9180's firmware on SM-S918U1 device ??
if it can:
1. Can I get future update by OTA??
2. Will it break Knox??
if it can't, is there any other alternative way to change the the carrier aggregation setting ??
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Don't do it. You will brick device.
You can't flash U or U1 phones to B models it will brick your phone.
To enable carrier aggregation, check this thread
[Help][Guide][Philippines]SM-N9860 TGY/BRI/CHC Snapdragon Users|5G Reception Fix|Updated Guide for OneUI4.0
Hi! I created this thread for SM-N9860 HK/TW/CH variant users from Philippines. The GOAL is to make our units work with our local carriers': 4G Carrier Aggregation (4G CA) (i.e. 4G+/LTE-A). 5G network and resolve any carrier related issues...
forum.xda-developers.com
PapaDocta said:
You can't flash U or U1 phones to B models it will brick your phone.
To enable carrier aggregation, check this thread
[Help][Guide][Philippines]SM-N9860 TGY/BRI/CHC Snapdragon Users|5G Reception Fix|Updated Guide for OneUI4.0
Hi! I created this thread for SM-N9860 HK/TW/CH variant users from Philippines. The GOAL is to make our units work with our local carriers': 4G Carrier Aggregation (4G CA) (i.e. 4G+/LTE-A). 5G network and resolve any carrier related issues...
forum.xda-developers.com
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This trick hasn't worked since One UI 4.
pjaysnowden said:
This trick hasn't worked since One UI 4.
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I had S22 Ultra U1 and deleting the CA files using QPST works
PapaDocta said:
I had S22 Ultra U1 and deleting the CA files using QPST works
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Cool. Ok. I never got luck with that