Hello great people to all my friends and developers at XDA I need to ask you about two big topics today and very important
The first is that we all know that there are a lot of companies that add application ads, such as GoogleAds, Unityads...) and a lot of the question is how can I remove the ads SDK for any applications, since I have root on my device and I can access the APK files, how can I remove the ads remove it from apps.
I used to rely later on applications such as Lucky Patcher to block Google ads, but now the situation has extended to different companies, and it has become difficult to block ads completely, so please advise me haw i can do it.
The second topic, in your opinion, is the easiest way to understand and learn the language of the flutter and Dart.
YAMANBINOKYO said:
Hello great people to all my friends and developers at XDA I need to ask you about two big topics today and very important
The first is that we all know that there are a lot of companies that add application ads, such as GoogleAds, Unityads...) and a lot of the question is how can I remove the ads SDK for any applications, since I have root on my device and I can access the APK files, how can I remove the ads remove it from apps.
I used to rely later on applications such as Lucky Patcher to block Google ads, but now the situation has extended to different companies, and it has become difficult to block ads completely, so please advise me haw i can do it.
The second topic, in your opinion, is the easiest way to understand and learn the language of the flutter and Dart.
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Ads on notification bar is just another form of mobile advertising.
I don't agree how they show notification ads while not using the app,
But I only agree if they show the notification ads when the app is running !
I hope Airpush will change their attitude in future, (and perhaps Admob also have option to include ads on notification bar too, so devs can earn more money)
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So I want to implement Airpush ads on my app (because admob only give me very little).
But I only want to show the Airpush ads when the app is running (no background service / etc),
does anyone here know how to make this (perhaps some code to be modified on AndroidManifest.xml) ?
P.S: sorry for bad english
Rotundjere said:
So I wan't to implement Airpush ads on my app (because admob only give me very little).
But I only want to show the Airpush ads when the app is running (no background service / etc),
does anyone here know how to make this (perhaps some code to be modified on AndroidManifest.xml) ?
P.S: sorry for bad english
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Not real sure. Might want to ask the airpush developers. Just a word to the wise but people.tend to remove apps if they find it has airpush included in the app. I mean think about it. How many ad blockers apps are there? Alot because people hate ads. The best apps are ad free
zelendel said:
Not real sure. Might want to ask the airpush developers. Just a word to the wise but people.tend to remove apps if they find it has airpush included in the app. I mean think about it. How many ad blockers apps are there? Alot because people hate ads. The best apps are ad free
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Actually first I also don't happy with Google with their web ads (Adsense, circa 2003-2004). Once the web is very clean (without ads), but after google Adsense, almost any site have ads (even XDA)
but let's face it, even TV has their own advertising long long time a go..
developers definitely need money, just like your local TV station showing good TV shows
IMHO adblockers only works for people who already know XDA or flashing custom ROMs.
"most" people out there don't even know how to block airpush ads
i dont see ads
i have a custom rom on my galaxy s and yea, i would agree the majority of users dont know how to do that.
One would think that. I have dozens of people come into my store all the time asking how to get rid of the ads.
A simple Google search leads them here. That's why we are over 4 million users. Not to mention all the other android sites that tell people how to block them.
I mean if your set on those types of ads then get ahold of the developers that make airpush. Non are here as XDA doesn't support airpush ads at all.
And for the TV ref. I guess that's why I don't keep cable in the house. Lol
I found other ads network (LeadBolt) that use notification ads but doesn't spam it's user. Will try that
I think Google Admob is cheating. They put ads fee $0.1 - $0.6 per click for advertiser,
but for app publisher they only give $0.01 - $0.02 per click
I know everybody hate Airpush,
but I think Airpush isn't evil as Google who try to steal money from app developers
edited: recently I've checked admob allow advertiser to bid $0.01, but I still don't trust them. Admob will not give any real money for app devs
Hello,
I've been reading a few threads and posts about earning revenue from apps without the use of advertising. I've used Admob network before, but over the past month and a half I've used Sellaring ad network. These guys do audio ads and they add a few good dollars to my pocket each month. In fact, a few more months of incoming ad revenue (and more users to my apps) and I may be able to cut down my day job.
I want to ask here, why is there a great objection to advertising on apps? I see a lot of the opposition here among XDA forum members and much less of it on any other forum. Ad revenue is a potential that can give developers the resource to develop more... this is what many of us want isn't it?
Hope I'm not offending anyone, would appreciate your input.
I don't think anyone here objects to in-app adds. There are many apps with both ad-supported and paid ad-free versions, so people will either buy them or use the ad-supported free version. Those kind of ads don't really bother people. I think the biggest problem people have with ads is with ad-delivery systems like AirPush. Those are intrusive and ruin the experience of using the phone. Coming from the internet, it doesn't feel right to get ads pushed to your notification bar automatically. It's like pop-up windows on many sites on the internet (eg. www.piratebay.se). Nobody likes them.
Since phones are our personal devices and we store so much of personal data on them, it doesn't feel right when we randomly receive ads like that without any control over it (except a convoluted opt-out process). It's an intrusion of privacy. That's the only issue in my opinion.
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But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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Exactly. I uninstall anything that pushes notification bar ads as for me they feel intrusive whereas in app ads I have no problems with.
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What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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I think that's a stupid idea, but meh, if it makes money it can't be that bad. It better be optional though!
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Rob45 said:
But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
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It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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LMFAO the Yphone! Couldn't stop laughing!
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spunker88 said:
As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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That's hysterical!! But only cause it takes it to extreme...
Ring back ads are meant to be played during the Ring Back Tone.
nemosomen said:
It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
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I agree that you have to provide value to users. But considering most Android users don't pay for apps (statistically) and in-app ads do not convert very well, we're pretty much stuck in between. How can we generate revenue for our work?
What if the ads are fun jingles? Doesn't that provide something of value?
Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
Thankfully, my phone is rooted and running cyanogenmod, so I can block in-app ads as well as revoke permissions for others that use Air push. I realize that ads are how developers make money and keep the apps free, but that doesn't make me hate ads any less. Any app for which there is no way to block all ads is an app that I will not keep, period.
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Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
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I'll put up with ads if they are non obtrusive and don't get in the way of using the program. Ads should only be present when the program is open and being used, meaning airpush ads should never be used. They are no different than malicious Windows adware programs that push pop-up ads.
It's not the ads, is the the network
Lets be honest, we all think ad networks are intrusive, messy to deal with (updating SDK's), and overall feel like we "cheapen" our apps when use them. But - they are the most popular "layer" you can slide into a free app in hopes of earning a little revenue from it. Using a completely different model such as fermium, or carrier-billing (Android only at the moment), or in-app purchases go beyond the scope of this post, but are better ways of earning revenue from an app in general.
Let's be honest:
No one like intrusion and advertisements like notifications, audio ads, video ads are intrusive.
Banner ads are fine as all they consume is a part of screen but some app started sending me notifications and I couldn't figure out the source, it's really annoying especially when notification can't be cleared down.
And in android 2.3, there no such feature to swipe the notification. You had to clear all notifications at a time.
I don't think developers object to app ads. There are many developers who have many apps on DesktopAd using banner ads and pop-ups to monetize apps. And I can see banner ads in many Windows apps, but I don't feel them bother me a lot. My apps are on Windows 8.1 desktop platform, I use small banners in my games, I think they would not bother my players. As a result I got generous profits from in-app ads. By the way, my ads SDK is from DesktopAd.com.
I just started using android phones like few days ago...been using iphone and never bother with antivirus. So any long time android user can tell me if really necessary to install antivirus app like avast?
xhuiz said:
I just started using android phones like few days ago...been using iphone and never bother with antivirus. So any long time android user can tell me if really necessary to install antivirus app like avast?
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Android Anti-Virus apps are generally viewed as being unnecessary and a waste of both battery, system resources, and money. My overall recommendation for security on Android that has been echoed many times it common sense, look carefully at the apps you are downloading, make sure they don't ask for unnecessary permissions for example their is no reason a Tic-Tac-Toe game should need to read your contact list, and that you don't download suspicious files from suspicious sites. With basic common sense you should be just fine .
I think Norton Security antivirus(com.symantec.mobilesecurity).
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Android Anti-Virus apps are generally viewed as being unnecessary and a waste of both battery, system resources, and money. My overall recommendation for security on Android that has been echoed many times it common sense, look carefully at the apps you are downloading, make sure they don't ask for unnecessary permissions for example their is no reason a Tic-Tac-Toe game should need to read your contact list, and that you don't download suspicious files from suspicious sites. With basic common sense you should be just fine .
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Yeah. .but the tic.tac.toe will say some excuse like " so that it'll be easy to find your friends and easy to play with them online "
The whole android permission system is just junk. And they want to have it that way, giving great incentives to app developers. Cyanogen had restriction of app permissions on cm7,but not on 9,10 or 10.1...why? Coz if they keep that up, apps will make sure, they are incompatible with Cyanogen Roms .Google wants lots of apps in their market and boost their popularity and so, they are indirectly selling privacy of android users and using it themselves as well. How hard would it be to integrate into android source code to make apps just request each permission(with a allow always button /allow once ), before they gain them after app installation?
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hello frnds..i have published my first app on Google play today..here it is..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waliaaps.thortorch&hl=en
i want to ask when should i start monetization ..?..and how should i do it?..
thanks in advance
Never. Just keep it for history. And start developing new cool app
hey..thanks for reply..!
i was thinking about educational apps..are they successful?..
KaitlinM said:
I think it's a hard type of app to monetize. Probably ads are the only way since I don't know how in-app purchases would work for such an app (at least guessing based on the description). As for when to monetize, I don't think you need to wait. Obviously more traffic = more money, but if you can do it relatively non-intrusively (maybe on exit), why not?
What kind of educational app?
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app like "interview questions on java," .NET etc
Freshly released apps have to gain attraction of users, so I think the best idea is to wait with ads for later. Also, it needs thousands of installs to make any revenue, so IMO better to focus on gaining installs first
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Freshly released apps have to gain attraction of users, so I think the best idea is to wait with ads for later. Also, it needs thousands of installs to make any revenue, so IMO better to focus on gaining installs first
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For ads, it's better to integrate them from the beginning to avoid massive negative reviews after adding them. If your app is valuable and ads are not intrusive (banners and controled iterstitials) your users will accept ads, you have to think about a premium version to avoid complaints from some users who don't accept ads and are ready to pay to remove them. In-App purchases are a more successful than offering a pro version in most cases (remove ads, new features,...etc)
I make apps with tasker and I want to put them up on Play store in order to earn bucks, but they are not good/useful enough to sell directly. So I need to put ads and as far as I have read, I have to contact an ad network or two. But the problem is that I don't have programming knowledge at all! All I know is to make series of tasks and scenes in tasker and export them with tasker app factory so I have an apk file in the end.
I can make almost all apps which are usually seen in the top free apps' trends in Play Store.
So, how will I put their ads? Do they give something which involves the use of Android SDK? Or can I give them my apk file so they will incorporate their ads for me? (this doesn't seem safe though).
One solution for this may be that they give me HTML for the ad so I can put it in tasker's HTML box, but then the ad networks won't be sure if their ads are showed properly or I am showing something else over the HTML box.
Also, do I have to pay the ad networks in advance or do they only take the share from the advertisements' earnings?
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UPDATE: I have learned how to develop real android apps using java and I have been uploading my apps with the name "Apps By Usman".
I thank everyone for the replies and I want to let everyone know that although I personally do not require an answer to this thread now, anyone who can share information about tasker apps and their monetization should write a reply for those visitors who would be needing such answer.
the post is like 4 months old, so i don't know if you still need the answers, but since nobody answered yet, i guess i'll just try, who knows if it helps you or anybody else.
i never used tasker before, but as far as i know, ads network company is providing sdk we have to include in our development project, some company like millenial media (i don't know about other company though) even providing step by step instruction of how to put their ads into our application on their website.
from your question, i assume tasker is something like game maker or app maker, sorry if i'm wrong, well, since i've some experience in using game maker also, just in case i'm right, in game maker, if they support putting ads into application, usually they include some option to do so, and the sdk from the ads network company is already included, i don't know if tasker have something like this.
hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply, tasker is not a development environment, it is just an app which lets us invoke different functions of phone on a step by step manner, and even lets us export these sets of actions as apk files.
I have, however, found that there is a very little possibility for banner ads in it. So I have now learnt coding in java and I am now making apps in java.
The answer to this question, if someone else is interested is that tasker can invoke html banner ads with the help of webview object if your preferred ad network supports this format, but to make real and native apps, we need to learn java.
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
noorudheen km said:
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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admob?
You can get benefits by advertising.
Each advertising platform, there will be a detailed access way and their own SDK,
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noorudheen km said:
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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I am willing to monetize my app made with Tasker, is there any easy easy way to insert or inject ads into the apk without codes?
As for paying the ad networks- are you looking to advertise your product or publish advertisements on your app? I guess it depends how many users you have! If you want to both promote your app and monetize your audience base, you should consider choosing a cross-promotional advertising company. I can give suggestions, but for now I suggest you google App cross promotion companies and pick the one that is best for you.
As for the tool kit, it again depends on the company, but a good company will have the option of SDK, API S2S, open RTB, JS tag, etc
ad mediation !!
hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
So being this thread has been revived, Ad networks do not put ads in your apps, you have to put the ad networks into your app. This is normally done by taking hours and hours of your precious time coding a SDK into your project. Boring.....
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ismaelbb said:
hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
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The point is being able to choose the placement and format for in-app ads easily. That's why mediation works so well.