I tried to delete this thing but it keeps coming back every second
You can't delete it, only disable it.
Why do you want to get rid of it anyways?
JohnTheFarm3r said:
You can't delete it, only disable it.
Why do you want to get rid of it anyways?
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Well after a lot of searching and testing it appears that this app causes touch problems in games, look it up
With root it would be possible
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With root it would be possible
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No. Because GOS is in the system partition that is RO only and you can't remove stuff from it even with root access.
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Well after a lot of searching and testing it appears that this app causes touch problems in games, look it up
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Do you mind sharing your source?
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Do you mind sharing your source?
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here:
Samsung answers questions about throttling in Galaxy S22 and other flagships
Samsung has issued a FAQ regarding GOS on its Korean website, covering the exclusion of benchmark apps, a list of 10,000 apps, and more.
www.androidauthority.com
Delete Game Optimizing Service (GOS) from your Samsung Galaxy | Benefits: Boost performance, fix touchscreen issues, improve battery life
Here is how to disable game optimizing service on your Samsung Galaxy devices and fix a lot of issues including performance, lag, touchscreen issues, and battery life.
www.androidsage.com
dsss2020 said:
here:
Samsung answers questions about throttling in Galaxy S22 and other flagships
Samsung has issued a FAQ regarding GOS on its Korean website, covering the exclusion of benchmark apps, a list of 10,000 apps, and more.
www.androidauthority.com
Delete Game Optimizing Service (GOS) from your Samsung Galaxy | Benefits: Boost performance, fix touchscreen issues, improve battery life
Here is how to disable game optimizing service on your Samsung Galaxy devices and fix a lot of issues including performance, lag, touchscreen issues, and battery life.
www.androidsage.com
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GOS on S23U has no effect on the performance as it had on the previous generations whatsoever.
Also, the IDEA of the GOS WAS to implement some sort of a "balancing" of the SOC to prevent it from excessive heating and provide a somewhat stable experience in the games. Though, that thing changed a LOT with 8gen2 SOC. Running with or without GOS has no impact on the performance, games, or benchmarks, all the same.
Regarding touch issues, seems like that was related again to the previous gen.
The article is from last year.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
GOS on S23U has no effect on the performance as it had on the previous generations whatsoever.
Also, the IDEA of the GOS WAS to implement some sort of a "balancing" of the SOC to prevent it from excessive heating and provide a somewhat stable experience in the games. Though, that thing changed a LOT with 8gen2 SOC. Running with or without GOS has no impact on the performance, games, or benchmarks, all the same.
Regarding touch issues, seems like that was related again to the previous gen.
The article is from last year.
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I don't have any issues regarding performance it's a beast in that area but the touch is driving me nuts because this thing is not cheap and it's not acceptable
dsss2020 said:
I don't have any issues regarding performance it's a beast in that area but the touch is driving me nuts because this thing is not cheap and it's not acceptable
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RMA your device then. No issues here with touch whatsoever.
You don't need to uninstall it, just disable it. That said, I've had no issues with my S23U either.
Hello,
Does anyone has a safe to remove list of apps? Apps which really are not useful and don't break anything.
Thanks.
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No. Because GOS is in the system partition that is RO only and you can't remove stuff from it even with root access.
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With a Magisk module you can mount an empty file over the apk and it would be the same as if the app wasn't installed at all.
gos working without gamelauncher ? i mean if i dont add any game game launcher then gos still will be active ?
Including the -k keeps the user data on your phone. Try excluding it and try again, it might help.
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Hello,
Does anyone has a safe to remove list of apps? Apps which really are not useful and don't break anything.
Thanks.
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There's no such thing.
salapolivalenta said:
Hello,
Does anyone has a safe to remove list of apps? Apps which really are not useful and don't break anything.
Thanks.
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You can find useful information in this thread:
[DISCONTINUED] Samsung Galaxy One UI - Optimization Guide
THIS IS A SUGGESTED CONFIGURATION FOR SAMSUNG DEVICES OUT OF SUPPORT/CLOSED I - RECOMMENDED SETTINGS To Start With - Factory Reset before starting optimisations - Factory Reset after every Major update (One UI/Android) - Remove SIM before first...
forum.xda-developers.com
Yes GOS still continues to screw with PS remote play multi touch on the S22 ultra and the S23 Ultra. It forces you to have to reboot your phone before being able to play PS remote play w/o the touchscreen issue every single time.
dsss2020 said:
here:
Samsung answers questions about throttling in Galaxy S22 and other flagships
Samsung has issued a FAQ regarding GOS on its Korean website, covering the exclusion of benchmark apps, a list of 10,000 apps, and more.
www.androidauthority.com
Delete Game Optimizing Service (GOS) from your Samsung Galaxy | Benefits: Boost performance, fix touchscreen issues, improve battery life
Here is how to disable game optimizing service on your Samsung Galaxy devices and fix a lot of issues including performance, lag, touchscreen issues, and battery life.
www.androidsage.com
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outdated resource, that "issue" is already fixed
Go into game booster, labs and turn on alternate game performance management, that disables gos, but it has nothing to do with touch issues, mine is working fine as well
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I use LG P500 for now i have a big problem. When i play game or hold sceen the sceen will Lag immediately. yesterday i ask my friend about this problem, He said, his phone have a problem like mine, so how can i slove this problem?
boyzz999 said:
I use LG P500 for now i have a big problem. When i play game or hold sceen the sceen will Lag immediately. yesterday i ask my friend about this problem, He said, his phone have a problem like mine, so how can i slove this problem?
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have you closed other application. As there is 100% chance that more of them are running in background
does it still lag? or you fixed it?
boyzz999 said:
I use LG P500 for now i have a big problem. When i play game or hold sceen the sceen will Lag immediately. yesterday i ask my friend about this problem, He said, his phone have a problem like mine, so how can i slove this problem?
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I think this is a bug in the touchscreen driver. Hopefully LG can fix this. If you touch the screen, CPU load goes up to 100%.
corwin42 said:
I think this is a bug in the touchscreen driver. Hopefully LG can fix this. If you touch the screen, CPU load goes up to 100%.
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Yep, can't play some games cause of this bug
normally if the device lags you need to restart. restarting the device once in a while is normal for android devices. if you have task killer remove it and replace it with autokiller...work far more better that task killer. IMHO
Asuma06 said:
normally if the device lags you need to restart. restarting the device once in a while is normal for android devices. if you have task killer remove it and replace it with autokiller...work far more better that task killer. IMHO
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That's not our case. As corwin said I believe that touch panel drivers are sh1t, this doesn't have anything to do with what you said.
i have the same problem.?mb the reason is tweaks(JIT en hw en)?
Does it happen in the stock ROM as well?
I think that trouch screen bug is the main reason for this problem.I hope that LG will solve this problem soon. But before i bought my p500 i read in some web,they write that this phone have develop with Google team and why have ****!!! problem like this.
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Does it happen in the stock ROM as well?
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I have original P500A firmware and I didn't notice problem with lagging. Could somebody confirm, that on this firmware it works fine?
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I have original P500A firmware and I didn't notice problem with lagging. Could somebody confirm, that on this firmware it works fine?
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where have you try it?
In some game or Neocore, every ROM laging when you touch screen.
Neocore score without touch 44 frame/s, with touch 15 frame/s.
This is maybe problem inside firmware.
Sorry for my English
Yah, you are not alone, I have that problem too.
It lags in games such as Heavy Gunner, and Raging Thunder 2, where I have to hold to boost, or shoot
I hope OC might help since when I held my finger anywhere in the screen I saw the cpu max out in the app system panel.
I have firmware V10c
get similar problem on solipskier (rooted and jit-ed)
I have the same issues.
Has anyone already contacted LG about this issue?
I don't think this is really a bad driver from LG (though I cannot comfirm that).
Native input and sensor events
Applications that use native code can now receive and process input and sensor events directly in their native code, which dramatically improves efficiency and responsiveness.
Faster event distribution
The plaform now handles touch and keyboard events faster and more efficiently, minimizing CPU utilization during event distribution. The changes improve responsiveness for all applications, but especially benefit games that use touch events in combination with 3D graphics or other CPU-intensive operations.
These are two of just a few of the awesome develpments for Gingerbread, and I believe these would help out on our model phones immensly. Thats why I am spending more time that I should be afterhours poking around 2.3. If only this was my job, and I could spend more than 2-4 hours a day on it before passing out...
can someone email LGs support and ask them?
I was ignored two months ago, just got a message from LG bot.."thank you for blah blah blah..we will reply blah blah" and nothing more I told them about the screen lag problem and asked for solution. I hope that Gingerbread will solve it, or that LG will provide some fix before Gingerbread will come out for our phone..
eigokyoukan said:
I don't think this is really a bad driver from LG (though I cannot comfirm that).
Native input and sensor events
Applications that use native code can now receive and process input and sensor events directly in their native code, which dramatically improves efficiency and responsiveness.
Faster event distribution
The plaform now handles touch and keyboard events faster and more efficiently, minimizing CPU utilization during event distribution. The changes improve responsiveness for all applications, but especially benefit games that use touch events in combination with 3D graphics or other CPU-intensive operations.
These are two of just a few of the awesome develpments for Gingerbread, and I believe these would help out on our model phones immensly. Thats why I am spending more time that I should be afterhours poking around 2.3. If only this was my job, and I could spend more than 2-4 hours a day on it before passing out...
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How would you officially update it though, after its released?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
That looks really interesting. Might be the reason I've been waiting for to upgrade to 5.1
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pa.ko said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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i think you installed the arm64 version. You need the arm version. Mine is working. Make sure you installed the google app and google play music app before installing. Normally android auto is installing this in its installation, but than it goes in a loop (in mine case). So install them first.
For the rest android auto is slow, because it's using google maps, which is slow in the android 5.1 version. Spotify is working fine btw.
I'm working for a MAnufacture which produces HU for cars. Right now there is a native Android System for cars in discussion.
Source:
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...auto-making-your-car-a-big-mobile-device.html
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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try DSA room, its best 5.1 rom I used
dcdttu said:
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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Heatsink issue is to be investigated also. For instance many phones do not have heatsinks and still endure very heavy usage. So it may be not necessary. For instance, thermal throttling may be sufficient.
Thus, both governor and thermal control should be investigated. I believe it is possible with little effort to tune these units to work very nicely without much hw poking.
SW in these units is just so bad and poor it is almost unbelievable! Beside designers didn't have basic knowledge on architecture, they even 'tuned' many things in just opposite of what is needed. They could have better situation if only leaves everything by default in AOSP
What I've recently found out is the source of all LG's lags. It's not animations as everyone believed. They have 2 thing that must be fixed urgently. Firstly they have cfq scheduler for I/O ops which I believe is way too slow and useless these days. It cripples I/O performance in the first place.
Secondly, if I go to dev settings and check "Enable strict mode" option you'll see red frames around apps when app runs in the main thread for long time. And what you'll see is that red frame never appears around Chrome, or Opera, or Firefox, or games.
Instead, when you go back to LG Home aka launcher, or to settings list like apps & notifications list you'll always see red frame appearing. It's because all the way LG's ROM is running in the main thread which is lame and legacy and must be deprecated and fixed ASAP. You can see red frame even when you press power button and block your phone which must not appear. Or, in stock Music app when browsing list of albums, red frame appears every several seconds.
How long will it take for LG to fix it's laggy ROM? It hurts their sales A LOT
Billy Madison said:
What I've recently found out is the source of all LG's lags. It's not animations as everyone believed. They have 2 thing that must be fixed urgently. Firstly they have cfq scheduler for I/O ops which I believe is way too slow and useless these days. It cripples I/O performance in the first place.
Secondly, if I go to dev settings and check "Enable strict mode" option you'll see red frames around apps when app runs in the main thread for long time. And what you'll see is that red frame never appears around Chrome, or Opera, or Firefox, or games.
Instead, when you go back to LG Home aka launcher, or to settings list like apps & notifications list you'll always see red frame appearing. It's because all the way LG's ROM is running in the main thread which is lame and legacy and must be deprecated and fixed ASAP. You can see red frame even when you press power button and block your phone which must not appear. Or, in stock Music app when browsing list of albums, red frame appears every several seconds.
How long will it take for LG to fix it's laggy ROM? It hurts their sales A LOT
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Look how long it took Samsung to get their crappy TouchWiz to not lag? I'm gonna guess not soon for LG lol
Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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Mine doesn't either.
V30, one year usage without factory reset, not a single lag. No idea what's are you talking about. Maybe it's your carrier stuff..
BROKEN1981 said:
Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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I hope that someone will ask Max Lee so him to show in his reviews of V40 what I said in original post. And if he'll show and compare with like some oneplus 6T everyone will see that and LG will have to do something about it
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I hope that someone will ask Max Lee so him to show in his reviews of V40 what I said in original post. And if he'll show and compare with like some oneplus 6T everyone will see that and LG will have to do something about it
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I really don't care about bench marks. They don't represent real life usage. The phone does not lag.
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Never lag? Come on folks. Underrated device but lags just like any other phone. Nothing major.
Don't know what op talking about.
Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
intruda119 said:
Never lag? Come on folks. Underrated device but lags just like any other phone. Nothing major.
Don't know what op talking about.
Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
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Considering the majority of LG owners with v20 and v30 never experienced lag....
And I see a majority of Huawei owners say that phone lags hard.
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Don't know what op talking about.
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I understood where I'm mistaken.
To see effect of "Strict mode enabled" you must reboot phone. I can't see red frames around screen not until I rebooted mine. But after I rebooted with "Enable strict mode" tick even when I start camera it fires up with red frame all around window. And even when I press power button to block phone it turns screen off but before it phone shows red frame. It shouldn't happen, the launcher LG Home shouldn't run itself always in the main thread.
intruda119 said:
Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
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Don't you suddenly know what I/O scheduler do Huawei's phones use? Probably different than cfq, right?
And background thing don't cause lags. There's at least 4 low power A53 cores aka Kryo Silver in every 835/845 that are able to run background things. Lags are caused by running interactive things in main tread which lead to visible delay for user
Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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I know. I'm running simply rooted stock firmware, and I don't know what people are complaining about.
ChazzMatt said:
I know. I'm running simply rooted stock firmware, and I don't know what people are complaining about.
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I don't even use greenify anymore. I noticed I got better battery life after I uninstalled it.
Yep, plain stock rooted no lag.
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I personally think is a mix bag of Android Oreo bugs and LG UI bugs mixed together and installing clunky apps do not help. The floating bar alone take 1gb of system memory for shortcuts that is some bad UI implementation.
I sometimes encounter lag on my G6. I dont know whats causing it. Im already using nova launcher. UI lag is still there.
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Im already using nova launcher. UI lag is still there.
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So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
Billy Madison said:
So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
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So now you know that it's really the I/O and Governors that's causing the lag. ?
Trickymaster said:
Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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Lol sure, enjoy. Unzip for the shell script.
4-5 hour SOT. Minimal lag.
TotallyAnxious said:
Lol sure, enjoy. Unzip for the shell script.
4-5 hour SOT. Minimal lag.
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No thanks. You just said minimal lag and currently I get no lag.
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So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
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What are you on about???? There is NO LAG.
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No thanks. You just said minimal lag and currently I get no lag.
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What are you on about???? There is NO LAG.
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I don't have any lag either. I think he's done stuff to his phones, which cause lag.
For instance, some of the package disablers cause lag, depending on the system app being "disabled". Plus, you're not really saving any space.
The OP moved on to G7 before we got universal root on the V30 and may even be on V40 by now or he's seriously looking at it. He's posted AGAINST having ROOT in the recent past. We had a discussion in another thread on the V40 forum about root as philosophy of ownership. Some people feel that root is only for "improving" phone functionality and if stock firmware is good enough, there's no need for root anymore. I disagree with that sentiment.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77940202&postcount=18
He specifically mentioned app disablers here:
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So, what?
Yes, you can remove. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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I've been using performance mode since the day I got the phone, so for the last 10 days, but I wanted to know - is it really worth it? I rarely play games, if I play them at all. I don't edit videos, do some photoshop work or whatever. I mainly use M20P for whatsapp facebook insta reddit and browsing.
So do I really need it or should I disable performance mode and get even more battery juice?
Ty
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I've been using performance mode since the day I got the phone, so for the last 10 days, but I wanted to know - is it really worth it? I rarely play games, if I play them at all. I don't edit videos, do some photoshop work or whatever. I mainly use M20P for whatsapp facebook insta reddit and browsing.
So do I really need it or should I disable performance mode and get even more battery juice?
Ty
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TBH, I've never used that and the mate is the fastest most fluid phone I've ever used. I really don't think it's needed at all.
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TBH, I've never used that and the mate is the fastest most fluid phone I've ever used. I really don't think it's needed at all.
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I see. So you would reckon I dont need it enabled?
Not really seen any difference in performance with it, I tested but don't use it at all now.
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The performance mode increases the GPU performance and doesn't have this much impact on the CPU.
So you will only notice it while playing games or doing some GPU-accelerated video editing - the everyday performance won't improve this much..
I think it changes the cpu's governor to respond faster to any solicitation (for me it unlocks a bit faster for example).
If you don't need extra battery life you can stick to performance mode.
But like others said, it's not a big change, it will still feel smooth and fast without performance mode.
Alright, I'll just do a test and if the battery lifr difference is significant, I'll turn it off. Thank you everyone
I didn't realize we even had a toggle for that. Too bad they treat it the way they do - it should be a list of apps that automatically turn it on when they are running. EMUI 9.1 has something kinda like that, except it is a group of optimized settings that have been pre-made for specific games. There are only about a dozen or so games on the list so far, which kinda makes it pointless. There were reports that Huawei had changed their mind and remove the performance toggle from the Mate 20 Pro at the last moment, because it made the phone heat up and didn't really gain anything. I have a zillion games on my phone but none of them are so GPU intensive that the phone struggles, haven't seen a need for this mode - yet.
I play tekken 6 on PPSSPP emulator, it runs the same with or without it, pretty much perfect.
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I didn't realize we even had a toggle for that. Too bad they treat it the way they do - it should be a list of apps that automatically turn it on when they are running. EMUI 9.1 has something kinda like that, except it is a group of optimized settings that have been pre-made for specific games. There are only about a dozen or so games on the list so far, which kinda makes it pointless. There were reports that Huawei had changed their mind and remove the performance toggle from the Mate 20 Pro at the last moment, because it made the phone heat up and didn't really gain anything. I have a zillion games on my phone but none of them are so GPU intensive that the phone struggles, haven't seen a need for this mode - yet.
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In other words, what you're saying is basically there's no need to actually run it as the perfomance isn't significantly improved, likely not at all? And I don't even play games, I guess it's even more pointless for me? Lol
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I didn't realize we even had a toggle for that. Too bad they treat it the way they do - it should be a list of apps that automatically turn it on when they are running. EMUI 9.1 has something kinda like that, except it is a group of optimized settings that have been pre-made for specific games. There are only about a dozen or so games on the list so far, which kinda makes it pointless. There were reports that Huawei had changed their mind and remove the performance toggle from the Mate 20 Pro at the last moment, because it made the phone heat up and didn't really gain anything. I have a zillion games on my phone but none of them are so GPU intensive that the phone struggles, haven't seen a need for this mode - yet.
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Derpling said:
I play tekken 6 on PPSSPP emulator, it runs the same with or without it, pretty much perfect.
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I see. Could it be Huawei just put that with the EMUI 9 to satisfy those who complained they couldnt get the same or similar antutu or geekbench scores that were advertised?
kaibosh99 said:
I didn't realize we even had a toggle for that. Too bad they treat it the way they do - it should be a list of apps that automatically turn it on when they are running. EMUI 9.1 has something kinda like that, except it is a group of optimized settings that have been pre-made for specific games. There are only about a dozen or so games on the list so far, which kinda makes it pointless. There were reports that Huawei had changed their mind and remove the performance toggle from the Mate 20 Pro at the last moment, because it made the phone heat up and didn't really gain anything. I have a zillion games on my phone but none of them are so GPU intensive that the phone struggles, haven't seen a need for this mode - yet.
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I think this is what "Game acceleration" mode is for...you select the apps and they will get a performance boost at the expense of battery. Never tried it myself, but I wonder if this is a "Performance mode" limited to those apps...that's how I look at it.
Ipse_Tase said:
I think this is what "Game acceleration" mode is for...you select the apps and they will get a performance boost at the expense of battery. Never tried it myself, but I wonder if this is a "Performance mode" limited to those apps...that's how I look at it.
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Makes sense. I agree
Ipse_Tase said:
I think this is what "Game acceleration" mode is for...you select the apps and they will get a performance boost at the expense of battery. Never tried it myself, but I wonder if this is a "Performance mode" limited to those apps...that's how I look at it.
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Game acceleration is the gpu turbo, performance mode is in battery settings,2 different things.
Be that as it may, general consensus seems to be that it is pretty much useless...
The performance mode was meant for a higher score on benchmarks. Huawei and a few other OEMs were accused of detecting popular benchmark apps and purposely tune their software to score higher on benchmarks. The performance mode was a result of public demand.
Koong1 said:
The performance mode was meant for a higher score on benchmarks. Huawei and a few other OEMs were accused of detecting popular benchmark apps and purposely tune their software to score higher on benchmarks. The performance mode was a result of public demand.
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Yeah, thought it was something amongst those lines. So, useless in day to day usage
furiouszagreb said:
Yeah, thought it was something amongst those lines. So, useless in day to day usage
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Yes. It is useless. There is no need to keep your CPU running at maximum in everyday usage. The phone can auto detect graphics intensive and CPU hungry apps, it will adjust automatically to the needs of different apps. Use the phone as it is for the best stress free experience.
(Damn, I sound like some Huawei salesperson)
Lmao! But yeah I figured as much. thanks haha
Koong1 said:
The performance mode was meant for a higher score on benchmarks. Huawei and a few other OEMs were accused of detecting popular benchmark apps and purposely tune their software to score higher on benchmarks. The performance mode was a result of public demand.
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this!
I think people have forgotten about the benchmark cheating controversy.
"optimisation" in benchmark apps (that is detection and different settings for benchmarks vs real world apps) was considered cheating (and rightly so)
so instead, huawei made the optimisations an option for the entire phone. only affects benchmarks afaik. maybe some intensive apps... but which apps right now would be considered power intensive for a phone (not a benchmark, an actual app).
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
T1Coreon said:
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
zaooza said:
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
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Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
lzgmc said:
If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
Metconnect2000 said:
Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine