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Hello,
I don't know if this should be asked on XDA as this is more of a software website,
but I need to replace my cracked glass,
and I still can't find an inconclusive answer to which adhesive should I use:
Should I use double sided tape only, on the sides around the LCD? or should I use those clear LCD adhesives directly on the LCD (LOCA),
or maybe use double sided tape and after putting on the glass, use some liquid adhesive around the phone to seal?
If I use only double sided tape as shows in many videos, won't that my the phone more susceptible to water and humidity?
What is the glue that is used by the companies themselves, for example what is this glue on Samsung i9300?
Thanks all helpers, I already want to replace my glass :cyclops:
Not sure what glue they use in factory but they do use LOCA too. Most people don't bother
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rootSU said:
Not sure what glue they use in factory but they do use LOCA too. Most people don't bother
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Is LOCA also intended to make it more water/humidity resistent or just to get a better grip of the glass and lcd?
Will a double sided tape be enough?(for example the 2mm by 3M) or it will really be bad and I need some special material too.
I also found this type of adhesive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-Original-Black-adhesive-glue-tape-For-Galaxy-SIII-S3-i9300-touch-screen-/200904299824?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ec6d45530
will that be ok? I am confused about this sticker because I dont see that it is transparent in the middle where the LCD is!!! or am I missing somehting and you can see? (maybe the adhesive in this sticker is only at the frame?)
Ty again!
Personally I would want LOCA. I wouldn't want to do it myself though.
I imagine it helps prevent dirt and condensation aswell as provides more adhesive
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verynoob said:
Is LOCA also intended to make it more water/humidity resistent or just to get a better grip of the glass and lcd?
Will a double sided tape be enough?(for example the 2mm by 3M) or it will really be bad and I need some special material too.
I also found this type of adhesive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-Original-Black-adhesive-glue-tape-For-Galaxy-SIII-S3-i9300-touch-screen-/200904299824?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ec6d45530
will that be ok? I am confused about this sticker because I dont see that it is transparent in the middle where the LCD is!!! or am I missing somehting and you can see? (maybe the adhesive in this sticker is only at the frame?)
Ty again!
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I think the eBay adhesive you sited is just to seal the edges, and you take the middle out.
I have done 4 screens on GS3s. I haven't used LOCA on any of them, but I just ordered some com www.lcdglue.com. For $30, you should be able to do 5 screens. My current GS3 has a new screen with no LOCA, but you can see the two screens making contact when you press on the outer screen. I think using LOCA would be a much better idea.
Ricerocket00 said:
I think the eBay adhesive you sited is just to seal the edges, and you take the middle out.
I have done 4 screens on GS3s. I haven't used LOCA on any of them, but I just ordered some com www.lcdglue.com. For $30, you should be able to do 5 screens. My current GS3 has a new screen with no LOCA, but you can see the two screens making contact when you press on the outer screen. I think using LOCA would be a much better idea.
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Got it Thanks !
Btw, can I cure the LOCA with UV LED flashlight? for example this one?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UV-Ultra-Violet-Blacklight-9-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Light-/281129456146?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item41749f1212
Or you need those special curing tubes? Btw, could this flashlight I posted be purple light but not ultra violet? I mean scientifically can it be purple but not UV thus it wont cure the LOCA?^^ sorry I have no idea
Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
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Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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arnedielis said:
Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
Didn't think it was personally.
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A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
pdes said:
There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
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Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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arnedielis said:
Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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Whoops, my comments are about the Xperia Z, not the tab... Sorry...
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
pdes said:
Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
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I'm having some serious thoughts about removing the anti-shatter film. When I use the screen on my Nexus 4 (which doesn't have a protective film) it just feels that little bit smoother and nicer than using the Tablet Z....you know, I can't quite put my finger on it ...:laugh:
I heard that Sony uses Dragontrail glass panel instead of Corning Gorilla glass.
The glass itself is under anti-shatter film.
The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
Sieth said:
The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
Sieth said:
The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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Have you not seen this : www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuwHzRYnzQY ?
Interesting
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pdes said:
Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
Thanks
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This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
Regards.
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daveid said:
It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
Ryland Johnson said:
This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
Regards.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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I also found the shatter proof membrane soft. It is litigation in todays society that leads brands to cover their backs. It is the "Rare" occasion you mention that could cost Sony millions.
I have read several posts where members remove the shatter proof coating. I suggest this unwise but once you buy the product it belongs to its owner and the owner must then take responsibility for the device and its behaviour IF the glass breaks.
To me its the screen material and battery life that hold the real advances in this area back. The sooner we have some real decent 'glass' at a cost effective price and a battery that can cope with the devastating rate of technological progress I will be a happier chappie.
The most odd thing to me is owning all this wonderful technology yet it working only for a few hours per day without a charge?
Regards
This is purely for sharing purpose and proof of theory, if you decide to do it on your own, then its all your own risk
Since in my country, Whitestone Dome is not available, and i cant find any good similar product,
I decide to make it on my own,
i do smartphone repair on a daily basis, and i know how to use LOCA glue, and i had available tools around,
So i grab one Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector,
i put the LOCA glue on the screen, and apply the glass on top, let the glue spread evenly,
curing it using UV lamp, and....
Sorry i forgot to create video
Here's the result : Full Screen Tempered Glass With Full Adhesive :fingers-crossed:
Video of the result : https://www.instagram.com/p/BVmub7Mg5SD/
hello. i wait someone to post this theory about loca glue with normal tempered glass. but i ask you some question?
1. how many cc for loca glue on the screen?
2. what kind of loca glue? ( tp1000 , tp2500 , tp2500f)
3. Is it easy to remove tempered glass from phone after use loca glue?
hello.
I found new Nillkin product 3D AP+ Pro tempered glass. Unfortunately, pictures have only Chinese description, however it's easy to find glass is only 0.1mm thin.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
Did anybody try it?
wanlop40 said:
hello. i wait someone to post this theory about loca glue with normal tempered glass. but i ask you some question?
1. how many cc for loca glue on the screen?
2. what kind of loca glue? ( tp1000 , tp2500 , tp2500f)
3. Is it easy to remove tempered glass from phone after use loca glue?
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You need less than 10cc absolutely,
One 10cc tube can do at least two installation
2500 should be good enough, its softer than 1000,
Removal is not that hard, but you need to slowly wipe away the dried/jellyfied loca
olegfusion said:
hello.
I found new Nillkin product 3D AP+ Pro tempered glass. Unfortunately, pictures have only Chinese description, however it's easy to find glass is only 0.1mm thin.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
Did anybody try it?
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Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
Actually for this kind of project,
Any TG protector will do,
But i choose one that has color on the edge, since it will disguise if there's any micro bubble appear on the edge,
Even cheap $3 bucks glass will do,
I just did 2nd installation using those kind of glass,
Fit perfectly well
FAUguy said:
Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
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No, this is CP+ Max glass. I'm talking about AP+ Pro glass.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
check again
Take a closer look of the result from my video here :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVmub7Mg5SD/
I am interested in giving this a try. From what it sounds like, you just put some adhesive on the glass, affix it to the screen, wipe away the excess, then cure it? How do you manage the glue around the speaker grill? I'm concerned the glue will gunk up the speaker.
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I am interested in giving this a try. From what it sounds like, you just put some adhesive on the glass, affix it to the screen, wipe away the excess, then cure it? How do you manage the glue around the speaker grill? I'm concerned the glue will gunk up the speaker.
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Put a paper tape on the speaker first. And remove it later,
Although, you can simply control the amount of LOCA you are using, so that there wont be too much excess that go near speaker.
If you accidentally gunk up your speaker, just use tooth brush, it will easily remove the dried up loca from the grill
olegfusion said:
No, this is CP+ Max glass. I'm talking about AP+ Pro glass.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
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What's the difference between this both?
mydonose said:
What's the difference between this both?
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AP should be thinner,
CP+ Max is still around 0.2-0.3mm
Wow..... is there any side effect, are there any leaked glue on the side/top/bottom ?
how is the sensitivity, i use Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector aswell, and the sensitivity on the top corner is horrible.
bakpau said:
Wow..... is there any side effect, are there any leaked glue on the side/top/bottom ?
how is the sensitivity, i use Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector aswell, and the sensitivity on the top corner is horrible.
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Leaked glue was cleaned right away after installation
Sensitivity is perfect, since there's no air gap like what happen in most common tempered glass,
and although there's glue between the glass and screen, it's LOCA which designed and purposed for mostcof LCD-Touchscreen-Glass bonding, so it has almost 0 effect to sensitivity and light transmittance
And experience is much better compared to common rubber or tpu protector, since its glass
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What's the difference between this both?
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otonieru said:
AP should be thinner,
CP+ Max is still around 0.2-0.3mm
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I had found a YouTube video, and it was comparing the difference between the CP+ and AP+ screen protector for an iPhone, and the guy was saying th CP+ was better, but didn't really say why, or what the difference is.
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I sent an email to the manufacturer got a response. The CP+ Max is Tempered Glass, the AP+ Pro is a PE Resen (flexible).
otonieru said:
This is purely for sharing purpose and proof of theory, if you decide to do it on your own, then its all your own risk
Since in my country, Whitestone Dome is not available, and i cant find any good similar product,
I decide to make it on my own,
i do smartphone repair on a daily basis, and i know how to use LOCA glue, and i had available tools around,
So i grab one Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector,
i put the LOCA glue on the screen, and apply the glass on top, let the glue spread evenly,
curing it using UV lamp, and....
Sorry i forgot to create video
Here's the result : Full Screen Tempered Glass With Full Adhesive :fingers-crossed:
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Hmmm I personally wouldn't consider this full-screen coverage but how well it is working without a case (if you don't use a case)? Like is it peeling up at all?
moccor said:
Hmmm I personally wouldn't consider this full-screen coverage but how well it is working without a case (if you don't use a case)? Like is it peeling up at all?
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No peeling up,
And i indeed, do not recommend to use case with this,
Since the glass is reaching the edge of the screen, most of case wont fit well
FAUguy said:
Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
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I got the CP+ Max in today. Removed the other screen protector that I had got last week:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHPMW98/
I didn't like that one since I could see the adhesive on the edges .
But the new screen protector is black all around, looks nice one, like you don't even have one installed. Still has the micro dots. Works with the two cases I have, EasyAcc and Diztronic.
Would a 3W UV torch be enough, or is 30W UV lamp necessary? And also, can you point me to the glue you used? I've been reading on the internet that theres some cheap loca that doesn't cure well...
Edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B011HY1QNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_nSGuzbFNNWDDM
this lamp comes with the whitestone dome glass, so i guess this works? any ideas?
Daax said:
Would a 3W UV torch be enough, or is 30W UV lamp necessary? And also, can you point me to the glue you used? I've been reading on the internet that theres some cheap loca that doesn't cure well...
Edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B011HY1QNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_nSGuzbFNNWDDM
this lamp comes with the whitestone dome glass, so i guess this works? any ideas?
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3W or even 6W would be too small, it will takes too much time to cure
Am using 36W UV lamp box, the one which nirmally used for nail polish in beauty shop, it fully cure the glue in around 5-30 mins
This is amazon link : https://www.amazon.com/Salon-Edge-36W-Professional-Dryer/dp/B006QO4BRM
LOCA glue i used is mechanic brand. Quite popular among repair shop in my country, not sure that would be available in your country though,
Here's on alibaba : https://m.alibaba.com/product/60537...-glue-liquid-optical.html#show_specifications
I think as long as you are not using the shaddy cheap one, you should be okay.
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
Where's your spirit of adventure?
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
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From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
deadsea said:
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
stubey said:
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
stubey said:
I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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Is anyone using their Pro 7 without any main screen protection? I'm interested how good or bad is the screen when there is no film or glass to protect it. Can you post your impressions?
cris2d2 said:
Is anyone using their Pro 7 without any main screen protection? I'm interested how good or bad is the screen when there is no film or glass to protect it. Can you post your impressions?
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I had it 10 days without case and glass. It had a few falls on my wooden floor nothing happened. Now i have it protected though.i think it has gorilla glass 5 that is decent protection
kutulu32 said:
I had it 10 days without case and glass. It had a few falls on my wooden floor nothing happened. Now i have it protected though.i think it has gorilla glass 5 that is decent protection
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Thanks.
As far as I could inform, there is only scratch resistant glass on the screen, no website mention to have some kind of Gorilla Glass.
What kind of protection are you using? Full screen glass (as they say, 3D) with coloured sides, flat glass or film?
I tried three kinds of film (even from Nillkin) but neither of them glued completely on the sides and the smears from fingers were terrible.
cris2d2 said:
Thanks.
As far as I could inform, there is only scratch resistant glass on the screen, no website mention to have some kind of Gorilla Glass.
What kind of protection are you using? Full screen glass (as they say, 3D) with coloured sides, flat glass or film?
I tried three kinds of film (even from Nillkin) but neither of them glued completely on the sides and the smears from fingers were terrible.
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I have a simple glass dont remember the firm . And a light blue meizu case. About the nilikin films you said i have one applied to my mia1 i found with a case . smears are an issue but it glued ok .