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Hello all!
What are the difference between the Pocophone F1 (=global) and the Poco F1 (=India).
I know that the 8GB can only be found in India and since I am planning to spend some holidays there, I was thinking to buy the Poco F1 there. However, I read that this version comes with many bloats and other ad/ pop up. Can I get rid of it? Can I install a clean version without the malware?
I am using the One plus one for almost 4 years now. Quite happy with it but battery life isn't as good as it used to be.
Thanks all for replying
you can flash global rom on poco.
Any other comments?
Poco and Pocophone are two different names
That's the difference
You can deblot poco via adb command ( search xda threads...very easy). Make sure that you are buying a model made after august and if possible buy the carbon fiber back model. For further add blocking you can use either blockada ( free) or adguard, both are pretty good.
Which poco to buy.
For not the store said that the global version has a weaker charger than indian also a youtuber said global one can't charger fast like indian while other indian report's the screen sensetive issue with bleeding in poco f1(indian version)but global one(pocophone f1)dont have such issue also they say that the global has better camera than poco f1 so,the store told me that ican return the phone for global one but its box was opened but the device has never started while the majority of poco profuct in store there is indian,i dunno and lost,which one i should buy,iam planning to have this phone for long time assuring that ican run anygame with good battery for the next 2 or three years, plz help me choosing the best!?
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
bizzzle said:
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
alexenferman said:
There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
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bizzzle said:
Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
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All of the phones I mentioned have OTG capability
Probably almost all phone supported by lineage have OTG. Don't worry about that.
bizzzle said:
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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I have 2 Samsung Galaxy S3 ( circa 2012 ) and while they are far from new, they are great phones to play around with.
I am far from experienced, but I have enjoyed flashing Custom ROM's , from CyanogenMod, thru various versions of Lineage, and now CrDroid. The newest O/S that I flashed is CrDroid 3.8.9 ( based on Android 7.1.2 - I think! ). Runs great. Stable. Long battery life. Ran ( 'right out of the box' ) without any need to install Gapps.
The nice thing is the Samsung Galaxy S3 is so darn abundant. Seems that everybody has one collecting dust in a drawer. And that means they are cheap ( as in give it away ). All the Samsung Galaxy S3 came with unlocked bootloader ( I think that is the term ) except for the Verizon model.
Icing on the cake is, a fellow from Montreal, alexenferman, is the genious authour of the CrDroid Custom ROM.
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
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I don't think it's will come to eu (read that meny time on internet)
I bought mine on TradingShenzhen
Delivered less than 2 weeks
700€ ?? Well, that is close to asus zenfone 9. Hard to choose
I also bought mine at TradingShenzhen. Took just under 2 weeks to arrive.
How's the experience on Xiaomi 12S? I'm planning to get one too.
Issue I found so far with the Chinese ROM
1. Android auto - communication error 22, previously worked with my old phone ( thinking to flash to xiaomi eu rom)
2. Android home - casting to Chromecast, tried once didn't work
3. Whatsapps - choppy video when sharing with others. I think that's a Whatsapp issue
Otherwise it's been very good
vexebaj said:
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
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According to some information, 12s series are only available in China, because the Leica authorization is currently only open for Chinese. Leijun says that the next generation of flagship will enter the global market.
Maybe you can try to buy it on Taobao (a Chinese online shopping platform), some of the shops support overseas delivery.
vexebaj said:
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
tx
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Maybe I can buy for you, or you can find a purchasing platform . I'm in China
phraze04 said:
How's the experience on Xiaomi 12S? I'm planning to get one too.
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If you're not like Chinese and plan on using this phone as a daily driver than you are probably out of luck as this phone does not sell out of China. Even if you managed to get hold of it warranty and other benefits would not work outside of China.
If you are like me who simply wants to try out Chinese hardware and flash Custom roms than I suggest you wait a bit for devs who manage to get their hands on this device or when Xiaomi releases enough code for custom rom developers for them to churn out a good aosp-like rom.
Of course there is still the issue of this device being Chinese-only so non-Chinese custom rom devs would not pay much attention to this device.
The latest device that supports a mainstream AOSP custom rom (I regard LineageOS and pixelexperience as mainstream) is the Mi11, and that has been out for two years now.
You of course can choose to use the stock Chinese rom, With all the Mi bloatware and ads, other Chinese bloatware, Play services bugs, and you would have to sideload the Play Store.
With the money you are paying for this phone (and the added shipping fee to ship outside China) along with the fact that warranty (or even general) support is only in China (which means if you run into issues with your phone you would have to send it back in China to fix the issues) I suggest you look for a different phone that is officially sold and supported in your region.
What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
I am happy with the global rom, except for a few areas.
1. USB C to 3.5mm adapter is quiet, fixed with a command (need root)
2. Camera's autofocus is bad in some scenarios
The CN rom is filled with the worst kind of bloatware. Every app wants to track your usage, including the realme UI apps. If I remember it correctly, even calculator or some other most basic app requested permissions
Despite global Rom being cleaner, there were still a few bloatware apps that I had to remove like HeyTap Cloud or Quick Device Connect among others.
So to answer your question, stock Rom is good enough but needs a bit of tweaking.
I hope the eu rom is the same as the global rom, but to summarize, the stock rom is good if you can tweak it with root. Am I right?
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What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
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Love it.
Iam ex-MIUI user, since 2017 (Redmi 4x, Redmi 5, Mi Mix 2, Mix 2s, Mi 8, Mi 9, Mi 10,...) , started with MIUI 7 or 8 global (i guess), later custom MIUIos roms (EU project, without bloatware, better optimization, different ram management, etc), and this is my first phone without MIUI. I was very worried, but for nothing.
I have EU non-root version, bloatware and google apps - done in 5 minutes without complications, OS is fast, pure, without bugs and any similar problems (team MIUI knows...), after month iam very satisfied.
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
Quake94 said:
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
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Why should I get the cn version? If I recall I saw people getting issues when flashing it with global so I think that any version should be fine since with eu it's rootable through an exploit
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
Quake94 said:
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
Pf_Plays06 said:
But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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The exploit is only needed to unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked there's no difference between the various global models with regard to root.
I have been thinking about buying a Lenovo Legion y70, and the truth is that I have several questions.
The first is that if the cell phone allows the transmission of screen and sound in the discord?
Also, what is more recommended? Buy a version with the global rom installed on aliexpress, or buy it new and sealed and install it myself?
And also how is the experience with this cell phone? Is it recommended or are there better options?
JMFK10 said:
I have been thinking about buying a Lenovo Legion y70, and the truth is that I have several questions.
[1.] The first is that if the cell phone allows the transmission of screen and sound in the discord?
[2.] Also, what is more recommended? Buy a version with the global rom installed on aliexpress, or buy it new and sealed and install it myself?
[3.] And also how is the experience with this cell phone? Is it recommended or are there better options?
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1. Yeah why wouldn't it? You can do this on any android phone.
2. There is no global rom version. Some sellers off to install google play for you since it doesn't come with it. Either option is fine, but if you don't know how to do it and are going to have trouble figuring it out, having the seller do it will be more convenient, but otherwise it's not too hard to do. Keep in mind you are still using the CN rom, which while it does have English, and other languages, will still have the typical chinese rom bloat.
3. Mine hasn't arrived yet so I cant speak from experience, but if your budget isn't more than 300ish USD, you won't find anything with better hardware. However, this doesn't make it the best option, unless you don't mind being stuck on the chinese rom with no future updates. I think its worth spending the extra for a phone with a good global rom, especially if your carrier is supported (a lot of the alternative options didn't support my carrier), but I personally couldn't afford it which is why I've purchased one of these. If your carrier supports it, I think the Realme GT Neo 5 SE, and Xiaomi Redmi Note 12 Turbo are better options. They cost around 330-340 USD, have similar performance, better body weight/size, and much better software. Only thing they're really missing is dc dimming, and good frequency bands/carrier support.
I have a discord server for Legion Y70 information, and discussion here https://discord.gg/r5VMszTGVr, look in the #interested-buyers channel for more info.