My x10a is currently unrooted, but what are some pros and cons of rooting it? Im sure their are several reasons to why it should be rooted, but i keep thinking that in the end i'll regret it.
Please post some good things about it, and some bad reasons for rooting. thanks
Slauney said:
My x10a is currently unrooted, but what are some pros and cons of rooting it? Im sure their are several reasons to why it should be rooted, but i keep thinking that in the end i'll regret it.
Please post some good things about it, and some bad reasons for rooting. thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pro: root access
con: uh... really, there's a con?
Slauney said:
My x10a is currently unrooted, but what are some pros and cons of rooting it? Im sure their are several reasons to why it should be rooted, but i keep thinking that in the end i'll regret it.
Please post some good things about it, and some bad reasons for rooting. thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PROS:
- Full control of your phone
- More apps available in Marketplace
- Remove unwanted apps
- Ability to overclock/underclock
- Tether your cell data (as a wifi hotspot or USB)
- Applications to SD Card (free up memory)
- Overall performance of phone improvement
CONS:
NON....
No OTA update once custom ROMS are available but that doesn't matter once rooted because you're gonna want to install custom ROMS created by the DEV anyway.
Well yeah, the reason why i thought i would ever regret it is because im new to this kind of stuff, so once i do it. im not going to know what to do with it. Im a newb i guess lol. Once i do it i cant go back correct?
I've noticed a problem getting protected apps from the android store. On my Rogers X10a since rooting, most things are there but a few things aren't. Hoping to solve it soon, but some apps may not be available.
Slauney said:
Well yeah, the reason why i thought i would ever regret it is because im new to this kind of stuff, so once i do it. im not going to know what to do with it. Im a newb i guess lol. Once i do it i cant go back correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can definitely go back to stock anytime you want. For example, I wanted to see the new ota update for rogers so I rebranded my phone back to its original firmware, and updated, now I don't have root but in about 30 minutes I'll have it again. This process can be done unlimited times.
Just a suggestion, before you try rooting it spend an evening or two doing some research and getting familiarized with the tools.
From what you are saying I would suggest waiting until there is something that you really want working on your phone that is limited by the stock rom.
Hey mate How can we install programes directely to SD Card when its rooted or is it possible to move installed applications to SD Card?
bassa1985 said:
Hey mate How can we install programes directely to SD Card when its rooted or is it possible to move installed applications to SD Card?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Xxsashixx is working on this but so far no luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7037044#post7037044
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
gavriel18 said:
You can definitely go back to stock anytime you want. For example, I wanted to see the new ota update for rogers so I rebranded my phone back to its original firmware, and updated, now I don't have root but in about 30 minutes I'll have it again. This process can be done unlimited times.
Just a suggestion, before you try rooting it spend an evening or two doing some research and getting familiarized with the tools.
From what you are saying I would suggest waiting until there is something that you really want working on your phone that is limited by the stock rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mind directing me to the Link for the original firmware for Rogers. I'm having trouble finding it in these forums. I can only seem to find Decrypted x10a ROMS and I have no idea what those are. I only want it for warranty purposes.
paulsandhu said:
Do you mind directing me to the Link for the original firmware for Rogers. I'm having trouble finding it in these forums. I can only seem to find Decrypted x10a ROMS and I have no idea what those are. I only want it for warranty purposes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use the r1f014 in the decrypted roms. That one is stock rogers branded or you can repair your phone with pc companion and it will save a backup to your hard drive. Then if you need to go back to stock you repair with pcc. I didnt check but im willing to bet the new rogers fw will be there too.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
gavriel18 said:
For example, I wanted to see the new ota update for rogers so I rebranded my phone back to its original firmware, and updated, now I don't have root but in about 30 minutes I'll have it again. This process can be done unlimited times.
/QUOTE]
Was thinking about doing this but I think the benefit of Root just outweighs being on Stock especially because of the unnecessary cr-APPS that SE installed. For me, I don't use Moxier, Timescape, etc... and they take up so much resources or space that I could use for some of more useful apps. (SetCPU, Titanium Backup, etc).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pro: You can get rid of that stupid blue wavy background on your settings, dialer, phone book, etc.
Con: Haven't found any yet.
cue_32 said:
PROS:
- Full control of your phone
- More apps available in Marketplace
- Remove unwanted apps
- Ability to overclock/underclock
- Tether your cell data (as a wifi hotspot or USB)
- Applications to SD Card (free up memory)
- Overall performance of phone improvement
CONS:
NON....
No OTA update once custom ROMS are available but that doesn't matter once rooted because you're gonna want to install custom ROMS created by the DEV anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What Tether WIFI application you use? I keep getting force close in it
gavriel18 said:
You can definitely go back to stock anytime you want. For example, I wanted to see the new ota update for rogers so I rebranded my phone back to its original firmware, and updated, now I don't have root but in about 30 minutes I'll have it again. This process can be done unlimited times.
Just a suggestion, before you try rooting it spend an evening or two doing some research and getting familiarized with the tools.
From what you are saying I would suggest waiting until there is something that you really want working on your phone that is limited by the stock rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What kind of tools are you refering to? Just in a general idea so i dont spend a week doing research instead of a day or two lol.
And just a general question, if debranding a phone is a good thing to do... is there a reason why Ericsson didnt do it in the first place? Excuse my incompetence with rooting.
oh, someone answered the question already, sorry =p
cue_32 said:
PROS:
- Full control of your phone
- More apps available in Marketplace
- Remove unwanted apps
- Ability to overclock/underclock
- Tether your cell data (as a wifi hotspot or USB)
- Applications to SD Card (free up memory)
- Overall performance of phone improvement
CONS:
NON....
No OTA update once custom ROMS are available but that doesn't matter once rooted because you're gonna want to install custom ROMS created by the DEV anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how do we install apps to sd card ?
Shiwantha said:
What Tether WIFI application you use? I keep getting force close in it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Barnacle.. if that's the one you use try go into your settings and enter athwlan0 in the LAN bit then press start.. ul be fine! works really well!!
Hope it helps!!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
I think the only con is the root access increase the security treat, just like the jailbreak iPhone.
Other than this, root is great, and useful
Mobzter said:
Barnacle.. if that's the one you use try go into your settings and enter athwlan0 in the LAN bit then press start.. ul be fine! works really well!!
Hope it helps!!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No I was using something else. Thanks for the tip. Barnacle works well on my X10
Related
I just got my AT&T Xperia X10 and want to root it, mainly to get rid of the AT&T apps they shove on by default and I can't rid of. What is the best method?
I can't give you the links I looked at as I'm new on this forum and they don't allow new users to post outside links. I looked at a link titled:
"Exploid One Click .apk Root (Latest v.1.06 12 Aug. 2010)" (this forum)
...and another one titled:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
My phone has build number R2CA016 on it, I assume there's no loss of functionality by going to a slightly older build? FYI, my model is X10A.
Thanks.
In my experience, keeping the AT&T build is the better option. My battery life is much better and the phone performs better with no stability issues.
I tried the long method first. I had some issues with the battery barely lasting a day and the device rebooting randomly. It also seemed to get much hotter when using it.
I also tried a few of the decrypted X10a ROMS like Rogers and Latin America Generic. They also exhibited lower battery life and the Latin version had some random reboots.
I went back to the stock AT&T ROM, rooted, removed all the AT&T crapware, and re-enabled the non-market apps option. The phone has been amazingly stable and the battery will last me two days.
Additionally, I found Handcent and ADW both reduced my battery life significantly so I am not using either of those on my phone now. I also remove ALL the AT&T apps including the Exchange app.
Slow down, I'm still getting to grips with this phone!
Right now the battery lasts just over one day, so I'm trying to figure out what apps are running in the background so I can axe anything un-necessary. When you say the "long method", do you mean the procedure in this forum called "Exploid One Click", or the one in the Xperax10.net forum?
Can I save the stock ROM that's installed, so I can go back to it if I want? I just want to remove the garbage-ware to be honest, I don't use Facebook, Youtube, Timescape or all the other apps AT&T puts on. Can you give me a procedure for what you did? Sticking to the AT&T ROM sounds like a good idea, I just want to remove the AT&T apps. FYI, I need an app that let's me connect to MS Exchange.
aln688 said:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm alright using any of the methods, especially with command prompts, I just wasn't sure if my phone being AT&T would cause a problem. The goal is to wipe the AT&T apps off and just put on what I need.
So far as ROMs, is there any in particular I should be looking at? Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
I also want a Wi-Fi app that can connect to hidden networks. The default app on my phone works, but when you move away from the network and come back, it no longer sees it. So I'll be looking for a new app for Wi-Fi connections.
Thanks.
I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
Sent via Swype via rooted Xperia X10a via XDA app.
aln688 said:
Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, use the one-click to root. Then you need to install a root file explorer to remove the apk files in the \data\app-private directory. Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically. If you don't understand what I am saying you can send me a private message and I'll help you through it.
There is one particular apk that you do not want to remove if you need Exchange support. That apk is com.nitrodesk.sony.nitroid.apk
To re-enable non-market apps, look for the non-market app thread under the Samsung Captivate on this forum. The only difference is that on our phone, the settings.db file is in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db. You will need to use that in the place of the directory for the Captivate settings.db
Jikenda said:
I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
Sent via Swype via rooted Xperia X10a via XDA app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
naplesbill said:
Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Except on the AT&T ROM it reinstall them all.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
naplesbill said:
I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
Alright, I'll try the one-click method then. Do you recommend a root file explorer, naplesbill?
Nimche said:
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I could figure out how to get my original AT&T ROM off of my phone, you could have that!
aln688 said:
Alright, I'll try the one-click method
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
Diesel984 said:
It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
aln688 said:
So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Install the APP and let us know.
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
Jikenda said:
Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was offended. I wasn't offended at all.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
naplesbill said:
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T Wont allow Side Loading without root access...I Tried that one earlier this morning, and it didnt work either.
The Root tutorial that has been mentioned seems to be the best method, Although I've gotten up to the Part where it says that under the model number on the phone it should Show X10a (which mine does) Yet, apparently Im missing something because I have no Root access...SO, Hopefully, If this Rapidshare download finishes this year, I'll get back to trying it again...Could just be that I missed something in the steps...I dunno LOL!
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the Android scene and moved from iphone to symbian and now to Android. Hoping for some help with this issue as it is a unique one.
First off, I have an ATRIX that was originally released for developers only. I got lucky and one of my dad's friend gave me the phone. The issue is that aside from lower storage (only 10GB available) and crappy battery, it is not the final firmware with Android Marketplace that came out with the final release.
Is there anyway I can flash the final released firmware? Settings > About Phone > Update states that I have the most up to date firmware. Also entering recovery mode and restoring the phone does not cure this problem.
-I do have it rooted and it is able to install software outside the market app (of which i currently do not have).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Just bumping this to see if anyone's got an idea or a hint.
are you sure you have the dev version? 10gb storage is normal, the rest is used for the OS. i have 10.71gb available to me.
you bad battery is most likely from being unfamiliar with android, if you have your emails, calendar, contacts ect...syncing all the time then the phone is constantly downloading data and killing your battery. you can try freezing those apps if you do not use them, you will notice a huge increase in battery life.
neotekz said:
are you sure you have the dev version? 10gb storage is normal, the rest is used for the OS. i have 10.71gb available to me.
you bad battery is most likely from being unfamiliar with android, if you have your emails, calendar, contacts ect...syncing all the time then the phone is constantly downloading data and killing your battery. you can try freezing those apps if you do not use them, you will notice a huge increase in battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Neotekz,
I'm quite positive I have the dev version. I was the percipient of it back in November 2010. I really didn't even know I had an Atrix in my possession until late January.
As for the battery, I think stock comes 1800maH, mine is 1500maH. I have disabled pretty much everything for auto data transfers. The battery itself may just be bad.
My main concern is; however, that I cannot get Android Marketplace on it.
You could probably just get the apk for the market.
And why take a modified phone like this as your first android phone?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
heres the link for market apk from androidpolice
http://www.multiupload.com/B6Y171MCYU
You have a Dev unit....does it have an unsigned boot loader.....?
Tennis11 said:
And why take a modified phone like this as your first android phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never had an Android phone, just wanted to see how it was and learn new things (including dev). Plus if I damage it or screw it up, it was a throw away/resell as it, kind of a deal. Got it for free, so why not right?
neotekz said:
heres the link for market apk from androidpolice
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Neo!
Clienterror said:
You have a Dev unit....does it have an unsigned boot loader.....?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As of right now, I'm going to say no, but where can I look in the phone to confirm?
koshia said:
I never had an Android phone, just wanted to see how it was and learn new things (including dev). Plus if I damage it or screw it up, it was a throw away/resell as it, kind of a deal. Got it for free, so why not right?
Thanks Neo!
As of right now, I'm going to say no, but where can I look in the phone to confirm?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The retail SBF has now been released and is in the dev forum. You can now have a brand new Atrix! lol
LOL get a stock battery flash to stock sbf and u have the ultimate atrix lol, unlocked atrix bootloader sigh 1 can dream.
Vigneshd said:
The retail SBF has now been released and is in the dev forum. You can now have a brand new Atrix! lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
djkinetic said:
LOL get a stock battery flash to stock sbf and u have the ultimate atrix lol, unlocked atrix bootloader sigh 1 can dream.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome! This was what i was looking for too. Thanks Guys!
djkinetic, you from hypnotika? DJ in Chicago?
First off, I would like to say that I have been actively reading and searching the web for information on these topics and I have found many different sources and answers.
The reason why I am still starting a new threat about this is because I am completely new to the 'development'/modifying spectrum of my phone. And while many of the threats give accurate descriptions on how to root it or what to use, I still am left with many noobi blanks on this topic.
1. Rooting, what exactly are the benefits and what will be altered if I decide to root my device?
2. Is it worth it to root my phone? What's the major benefits and new things I will be able to do? And are there any problems or dangers I need to be aware of? (I've been using it for almost a year without doing so) Also, is there a way I could backup my current files and data and then place it back on the rooted device?
3. I've read about ways of rooting in which the kernel will be altered and about some in which it won't even be touched. So, what is the, let me put it bluntly, 'best' rooting technique/way to go with?
Thank you for any help possible on this topic!
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
UpInTheAir said:
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow I can't believe I've missed these two! Will read them right away!
Thank you for the quick help!
Any other help and opinions/experiences are still greatly appreciated!
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
JJEgan said:
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
Mr__KJ said:
Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
AJ.Rockwell said:
No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty. And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Yep it indeed did!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you cannot back up app data without root.
Mr__KJ said:
And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If by conversations you mean your SMS, you CAN back up and restore SMS withOUT root using one of several apps. I use SMS Backup+; it backs SMS and MMS messages to your GMail account, and can restore SMS. It cannot restore MMS as of yet though.
Mr__KJ said:
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on what state the phone is in, such as screen on/off.
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' are regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
Mr__KJ said:
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
Mr__KJ said:
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' str regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
ctomgee said:
Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was talking about getting the SMS Backup + right away, which I already did.
And about the SetCPU as soon as I get my phone rooted.
Alright, yes backups are always an important thing to do. So we are talking more of software dangers though (not booting up correctly, stuff messing up or not launching, crashes etc.) rather than any hardware damage that could be caused?
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
Mr__KJ said:
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
ctomgee said:
Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh now that I reread that I see what you mean. I am aware that the rooting it's self will not improve/worsen the performance of the phone or anything else.
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
Sorry for the confusion!
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
Mr__KJ said:
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
MistahBungle said:
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
anguscmac said:
Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Give this a try for all the links need to root and the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488496
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey good luck and have fun
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
dionysos803 said:
How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
Speedy Gonzalez said:
is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would count that as "a reason to use it".
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
thanks for info
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
dionysos803 said:
I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
Hitman3984 said:
the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All updates are optional.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Its TwiX said:
All updates are optional.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
---------- Post added at 03:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:29 AM ----------
Hitman3984 said:
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user
I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway
also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
Dumb Question
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
Droidneedzsence said:
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.
Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.
kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
dionysos803 said:
]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
flaring afro said:
It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.
---------- Post added at 08:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------
Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.
Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
Rom
Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium HD app
I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
schnip said:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
schnip said:
There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
espionage724 said:
How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
Pharmbob said:
Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)