Phone app won't end without a soft reset. - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Hi sorry if this has been posted before, I couldn't find any relevant info on the boards...
The problem is with the phone app. Once the device has been used to make a telephone call, the phone app stays running and will not end (i'm using the switcher) unless I perform a soft reset with the stylus.
If I make say three phone calls I end up with 3 instances of the phone app running and not being able to end them?
Any Ideas?
Thanks
Dean

Do you really end up with three copies running, or are you speculating? That would be very strange. It is normal for it to remain running, but I've never seen more than one copy running. There is no way to close it, even with a task switcher (have tried three).

If i am not mistaken your using WM2003 4.00.05
If this is the case it happened to me on hourly basis so i downgraded to 4.00.01 & it works well.
I think its a bug and sometime you see the call meter still running but the actuall call has ended more u cant stop it but by soft resetting.
If ure using this version of WM2003 then your only soltion change the ROM version
:wink:

I have had my TMo xda for almost a year now, and have used every version of PPC2002 and WM2003 to date, and in every version I have noticed that you cannot close the phone app as well, but I have never noticed multiple instances simultaneously, except that the call log window does sometimes show as an additional instance. So to see two instances of the phone app running is not unusual. I have never seen more than two instances running though, and closing the call log does seem to close the second instance.
David

thanks for the replies...
You are correct about there being only 2 instances of the phone app running, there are never more than that.
i'm using the developers rom v1.1 r 4.21.00
The phone instances simply wont end using either the task manager or switcher. The phone shows the last number I dialed, which I can't get rid of. also to the left of the contact name just above the phones erase button, there is a little "m".?

I have the developers rom 1.2 and I can close the phone app ok, I just go to the switchers "lightening bolt" thing in the right hand top corner, click, click and its gone.

The "m" you see is the confirmation that you are calling the number which appears in the 'Mobile field of the contact record. The last number called cannot be removed without 3rd party software. Nothing to worry about and probably not worth fixing.
Um, you know you can turn the phone app off by tapping on the signal strength meter or pressing and holding the red ph button ?

Hi, yes I did know you could turn the phone of this way, but the phone wouldn't actually end.
Last night I upgraded to the v1.2 rom, problem had dissapeared. Thanks for your help.

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sms

Does anyone know a way to know if an sms has indeed been sent away? some Sms's just don't arrive and there is no notice to confirm the fact that it was sent off.
Lionel,
Pocket PC 2003 solves this. It displays a little message bubble when a message has been successfully sent.
I have seen that in Pocket PC 2002, if I write and send a message and turn off the display before the message leaves my phone, it will never go. But it will give you the error messge when you go back into your SMS's.
Regards
Keith Burke
Dublin, Ireland
many thanks, so I guess I'll have to get pcc 2003!
greetings,
Lionel
And you can cook it up from here
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Go for the 4.00.10
Best of luck
Hi Ranger,
Can I be sure everything will work all right by upgrading to 4.00.10? I read quite some comments about a series of problems and some people going back to previous versions. Isn't it going to bust up my phone settings in Belgium? Someone wrote not to do any upgrades unless your an expert technician.
2. If I do go on with the upgrade can I just use sd-backup and get my stuff back from Sd-card? Isn't that going to restore my old system?
3. I don't know anything about technics. Most of the options on http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/ sound like Chinese to me.
Sorry for all the dumb questions, but I want to make sure I'm not going to run into trouble.
Hi Ranger,
I decided to run the risk anyway. I can probably do a hard reset and backup if I get into deep trouble.
I went to your link, but as I am a complete beginner at this, I got stuck after 'building the rom now'! I asked for the 'Installer.exe' but couldn't find it on my pc. What shoud I do?
greetings,
Lionel
Ok, first off. Back up your XDA ROM to your SD card. I've never done this, but I'm sure once this is done you can copy it to your desk top.
Secondly, yes there is a possability that it will kill your phone. See http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1624
But I have never had a problem, once I stick to my golden rule. Close EVERY PROGRAM that you possibly can while doing the upgrade. And son't touch your computer while it is doing it as well. It's a tiny price to pay. If you're using USB it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes. With Serial cable, I heard it can take upto 20 minutes, maybe more.
As far as downloading it, after you've selected the options in the ROM kitchen [whici belongs to Jeff Summers by the way, not me ] make sure that the bar up the top is still green, NOT RED.
Next, down the bottom there are three options. For yourself, choose the EXE file. After a few seconds, might take upto 30 seconds, up the top of the screen will be a button to down load your file. Just save it somewhere on your computer and run it.
Make sure that your phone is in it's cradle which should be conntected to your computer [or connect the phone to the computer with a serial or usb cable]. Also make sure that the power cable is plugged in.
I think some people have advised taking out your SIM card but i never have.
That should be it.
Let me know either way. If it messes up, just pray that it's after 5% or 10%, so I hear. If so we can try the second option.
Regards
Keith Burke
Dublin, Ireland
One last thing. Take a note of your Network provider settings [GPRS etc...] before you upgrade. They will not be in the new 2003 image.
I forgot when I was doing mine and no longer have my GPRS settings
Hi Keith,
I'm trying it out right away. I have the backup on the sd-card, so that should work fine.
Just be careful with your SD card. I have heard a few reports that it sometimes gets erased in the PDA. Can't remember when or where but if you search the forum you might find it.
Good Luck. It's worth it.
if all you need are sms delivery reports, just click on options when in the compose sms screen and then click on delivery reports, unfortunately you have to do this for every sms as there doesnt seem to be a way to switch it on permanently.
ranger said:
And you can cook it up from here
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Go for the 4.00.10
Best of luck
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Does this have a radio update ?
Regards
René
Hi,
I've been trying to cook about 20 times since the 1. of August. Tried about everything. Tried all the roms, with and without adding software. Turning off my firewall. Trying all the Rom's. No other programs running.
This is what happens every time:
After selecting the items, I choose the 'install.exe' option and choose 'build rom now'. It starts doing 'something'. I have ADSL and after about 10 seconds the blue bar at the bottom is completed. At the top of the window in the yellow background it keeps saying
'Creating rom... Please be patient
copying rom Files
running mkrom
even after waiting for 30 minutes nothing more happens.
What am I doing wrong?
greetings,
Lionel
Radio Upgrade
@rk
No.
There's no Radio Stack Unit (RSU) Upgrade integrated.
As it depends on the location, where you live, be carefull, which you choose.
For me living in (good ol') Europe the RSU 4.21.00 from O2 UK webside is working.
My native language is Greek and naturally I send Greek sms.
The only problem is that XDA sends them using Unicode character set meaning that over 70 character messages will be splitted.
Does anybody know of any solution on this issue?
I have an O2 payg sim card, even though I ask for delivery reports on sms each time I dont get them, reason being the remaining balance comes in as an sms which cancels the process somehow. Has anybody got a solution to this?
regarding the last, on o2, put *0# in the subject line, and the main sms in the body.
neil
ukneil said:
regarding the last, on o2, put *0# in the subject line, and the main sms in the body.
neil
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Thank you very much, that worked a treat, I was told by somebody to put that *0# before the fone number, no wonder it didnt work, thanks again.

O2 XDA II Hangs

Hi guys,
I have just bought an o2 xda ii and am having serious problems
was trying to establish a bluetooth connection with nokia 6600 and it just froze displaying the today screen
now xda hangs after switching on and nothing works only the bluetooth light keeps on flashing
cant try anything as it doesnt function at all.
Can anybody help
Isn't There anyone who can help me...??????
Isn't There anyone who can help me...?????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
when you mean turn on do you talk about turn on as in turn on the top power connector
or a softreset ?
if you mean top power connector then that dont reset the pda you need to do a softreset
if you did mean a softreset then i dont know any other way then a hardreset which of cause delete all your data
Inderts the stylus in the reset hole, if that doesnt work then as the man said you will need to do a hard reset and all data will be lost, hard reset is done by pressing power while inserting stylus in reset hole.
Hi
Thanks for yr reply
I have aslo tried a hard reset but no luck
The device switches on and freezes on the blue O2 screen or sometimes goes thru the setup procedure & freezes at the today screen
Tried it a couple of times
Is there any other way please let me know.
Thanx again :? :? :?
Which ROM do you use? You can try to flash your ROM. There are plenty of treads on this forum on how to do this. Make sure you don't use a USB hub when connected to flash you're ROM. Your MDA II must be connected to a normal USB connection (I learned it the hard way....)
Wouter
Hi
Sorry for the late reply as i was out of town
Dunno exactly how to identify the rom version but when switched on it shows
R 1.05.14
G 1337.14
D 1.03.00 USA
Can u please suggest what to do
Thanx
You can see which ROM version you have by going to:
Settings, System tab and then Device information.
Mine says:
ROM version 1.60.00WWE
ROM date: 12/03/03
Radio version: 1.06.01
Protocol version: 1337.16
ExtROM version: 1.60.06
So I guess you can do a ROM upgrade. To find out how to do it, just do a search on this forum for ROM upgrade and you'll find detailed describcions on how to do it. Make sure that your device is not connected via a USB hub otherwise you can have some trouble getting it done.
Wouter
Thanx for the prompt reply but the problem is that the device starts goes on thru the new device setup programme & hangs nuthing beyong that
So am unable to go to the system settings
Is there any other way i can see the rom version...
Well the colors at the beginning tell you which ROM you have (but are only very short on the screen so hard to read) but you can defenitely upgrade.
Wouter
No Bluettoth Hardware Installed Error Msg
Hey, this sounds like the same problem I have too! I have just posted a new subject in the "Using It" section of this Forum. Does your device also suffer from the following i.e. when the software ha loaded and you hit the bluetooth icon, does this error message come up "There is No Bluetooth Hardware Installed on this Device"? Pls read my post below.
"I have an XDA II, bought from the UK. I live in E. Africa so sending it back is a hassle. EVer since I bought it, although it was OK for a few days, a msg then came up saying "There is no bluetooth hardware installed on this device". This means I cannot put b/t on or off. Also, it affects the performance of the XDA II as it crashes frequently and loses ActiveSync connections frequently. The odd thing is that SOMETIMES, after a hard reset, it's OK again. But then when I do a subsequent hard or even soft reset the same problem occurs! So it DOES work. But not consistently. I conttacted O2 by email & tel. They were semi-helpful. I returned the XDA II to the O2 repair centre in London by courier (expensive). It came back, apparently repaired, but they had addressed the wrong thing and the problem still persists! I am loathe to sending it back without trying something for it - if you have any suggestions. Perhaps I can try a Rom Update or something to see if it sorts it. Even O2 are baffled, but I do not have the privilege of sending it off again because of where I live. Any suggestions or advice please? Many thanks. "
'Frozen' O2 screen with bluetooth light flashing
Hi to all,
I 've been having similar problems since I got my unit last November. You may be able to relate with my problems.. screen won't respond to any taps.. when you send SMS, the 'Send' button freezes... tried soft resetting, sometimes lucky, gets back to normal... at worst, does a hard reset...
after a few months of no reliable answer from local and foreign XDA help.. i'm used to either removing my battery/sim.. wait for awhile.. try to find a place where there's better network signal.. then, puts back the SIM and battery.. many times a get lucky by doing this... but there are also times that I had to do hard reset.. like two hours ago..
Hopefully, some help will come ...
For those who have yet to develop a routine to address similar problem, you may try mine...
Helpless xda II fanatic(???)
Archel Angeles
I have similar experience too. I got my XDAII last November, it runs smoth without a single hang for the first month until one day in January, while using it reboot by itself, after that day the device will just reboot anytime anywhere!
Thinking that this might be caused by some installed softwae, I hard reset my device. After the initial setup then it hang while running the auto installation from the extended rom saying that some file is missing. I hard reset again and it still hang while running the auto installation but saying another file is missing. On the day alone, I hard reset my device for more than 10 times! Each time it will either hang on the O2 startup screen or during the auto installation. Until finally one time manage to pass through the initial setup and auto installation.
On the second day, I quickly bring my set to the service centre for repair, while I describe and showing the faulty set to the service officer, the device self reboot for another couple of times.
I took back my set two days later, the service officer told me they cannot find the fault of this so they re-flash the rom for me, and they have tested it with internet browsing, mms, sms etc without any problem.
The 'repaired' set works fine for another one month until couple of week ago it start to hang during some incoming calls. When call was received, I press the answer key to answer the phone, the device would just hang with the ballon still showing on the screen, i'm not able to answer the call at all.
Last Friday, I finally hard reset the device again and re-install some my software applicaton and games. Second day morning while I was waiting for my friend, I start to attach photo to my contact, just when I attached the first photo and click on the save, the device hang! I press the soft reset button and the screen goes off without rebooting. I press the reset button again but the screen just won't come back. I even took out the battery and put in my backup battery, still the screen refuse to come back! The screen only come back when I performed a hard reset.
Today i found another problem with the device, the free memory is getting lesser and lesser by itself! Just before I type this reply, I soft reset my device and leave my device on the momory status screen, the allocated momory for the program showing 63.02Mb, in used 16.96MB and the Free momory 46.06MB. Now the in use memory increases to 30.75MB while the Free memory drops to 32.27MB!! I did not run anything in the background, I did not even tough my device!!
Anybody here can help save my device?
I have the same problem now. It is really a nightmare for all of us!!!
Exactly
Have a very similar problems 4 days in the row. Self-Blackhangs without any knowing reason. Impossible to use device longer then 10 min. HELP!!!
P.S. Some days before I try to uninstall Intellisync, wich I try, but does not use for a long time. Uninstall was unsuccessful cause .exe was "in use". There problems begins. May be. After one of hard-resets I remove .exe manually and then uninstall prog, but problems persists.
Hi guys, Fortunatly I do not have the same problems with my XDA II but I was thinking maby it is a type of software that has been installed on the device, I have noticed that some apps can cuase VERY strange things to happen (Even some THEMES!!!).... LOOK out for this..
Maybe you could try and run the XDA II after doing a hard reset as bare as possible... As in not installing any other themes or thirdparty software for a day or two and see if the device still gives your any problems... Will be interesting to find out.. I have had resets on my XDA II from using some themes avalible from the O2 website (that users have made not O2, but still) and since using the default theme I have not had a crash or a reboot since... (THIS TOOK ME FORVER to find out)... but might be worth a try..
Keep us all informed how you go with things.. Hopfully its just a pice of software or somthing simple like that...
GOOD LUCK ALL!!!
So, guys, I think that there is a HW problem. MDA freezing during initial install or during HardReset before install. Maybe "motherboard" is microbroken or so on.
Week ago I return my MDAII to T-Mobile and they will repair it to some way. I will report this way to you all as soon as possible. Let we see.
V.
Hi all,
I have the following devis info of mine:
ROM version 1.66.00WWE
ROM date: 02/20/04
Radio version: 1.10.00
Protocol version: 1337.18
ExtROM version: 1.66.101
This Rom works great, just search for it and upgrade!!
Wish you all luck!!!
sounds a lot like the problem I'm having.
Can any of you guys install a new rom at all? mine freezes up and activesync disconnects the second it does... So I guess when flashing your rom and having it freeze up on you, you'd be even further from a solution... thoughts pls
I fixed it guys...
seems a corrupted rom was the problem hitting bootloader mode (power + action + stylus) and installing a new rom fixed my problems
let me know how it works out for you guys

Bugs Report on WM2003SE (V2.02)

dear all,
First of all, thanks dcs and all others who have contributed so much to the completion of WM2003SE. Somehow, I think I should start a thread stating people's experiences on WM2003SE bugs, so that some geniuses may find ways to fix them. Here is my report on 3 day-usage when compared to the older version 1.72
1. The voice call cannot be made longer than the time specified in the power saving mode. In other words, the voice calls will be cut off when the phone turns itself off. I didn't encounter this problem using older versions. And this is truly annoying since I have to untick the saving mode to prolong my calls
2. When the sms is sent, the confirmation letter box sign appears and never leaves the screen. it stucks there until soft reset
3. Power consumption is fast
4. Some of the today plugin programs are so fond of playing hide&seek. Refreshing the today screen mitigate this issue.
5. When in landscape mode, sometimes scrolling the screen can cause multiple horizontal lines.
6. Found out that the original camera and caller ID are not totally compatible. I gotta go back to using those of 1.72 version.
BTW, I gotta admit that I prefer WM2003SE to any other previous version
Any other comments? :roll:
Cheers,
Um, i have the modified asian to english version of SE.
I have none of the bugs that you have, but i have one other.
I cant get any ringtone when recieving a call.
mate,
i also live here in thailand and i just finished upgrading to the asian wm2003 se rom. no problems so far...only change i've seen is that when i reboot and try to access the phone immediately; there's a message saying "the phone is not yet ready, please try again in 15 seconds".
bt is fine; i THINK the blue led is flashing a little faster..but i could be wrong...
landscape mode is fine although as expected some games or apps have screens which are "cut up". this was warned when installing; a message appeared saying "the program you are installing may not display correctly because it is not designed for wm2003se"..or something like that.
power consumption seems to be the same...phone is ringing fine...though i still have to figure out if my ringtonex (mtux) is working properly...
so far so good and i like this rom. seems stable to me.
cheers then
rob
forgot to mention that i use animated today for themes, and the wm2003 se doesn't have any effect on it. works well even in landscape mode....
cheers
chinese font can't display with clear type mode in ENG SE
Hi,
I just upgraded to Eng SE. I love the SE upgrade except the following.
I have third party software ("Small Knife") installed in it so that I can read and type chinese. However, when I rotate it to SE mode, the fonts seemed ugly compared with portrait mode. It's definitely the clear font working not working in SE mode.
Any solution?
2. When the sms is sent, the confirmation letter box sign appears and never leaves the screen. it stucks there until soft reset
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this sounds very much like the issue that people have when they set pocketplus or other programs to close applications insted of minimizing them
this happen on all 2002, 2003 roms
if people close outlook before the msg is sendt
of cause i dont know if SE have that bug no matter what
those are the issue on the ENG ROM
not happening to us on CH ROM
Robson said:
mate,
...only change i've seen is that when i reboot and try to access the phone immediately; there's a message saying "the phone is not yet ready, please try again in 15 seconds".
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This is normal that happen in all roms, after reboot you have to wait for the phone to operate.
try different sim card, I got the same problems with OLD sim :twisted:

What does this icon mean?

Hello All,
Thanks to everyone who makes this site such a terrific resource. Can anyone tell me what the icon on the attached jpg means? I can't find it in any manual and it appears regularly. :? The icon identified by the red arrow didn't appear on the ROM that came with the phone from TMobile, or at least I never saw it for the year prior to changing ROMs.
T-Mobile USA refuses to enhance their ROM with the wireless modem feature so I got a cooked ROM from http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/ (excellent site btw) and now I'm using the wireless modem feature to my hearts content with a ROM from o2.
Many thanks!
Looks like a missed call icon to me.
Thanks, but I don't think that's it
I get the phone icon with the exclamation point whenever I miss a call. I thought at one time it might be a missed call icon, but it doesn't appear when I call my cell from another line and don't answer. I don't see any connection between this icon and any particular event. It seems to occur completely at random. :?
I think this icon means the radio has just been turned is off and it appears normally as the device starts up after a soft reset and only appears for a couple of seconds as the device loads the radio and finds a connection. I think it's supposed to indicate that you can't make a voice call at this moment.
do you have IACallerID installed? thats the icon that shows when it starts up i think
BINGO! Thanks dabtran!
I just spent the last two hours researching this and came across the Caller ID 1.0 for Pocket PC help file in the windows directory. The very first paragraph describes a not ready icon that will appear. I've played with the photo contacts a bit, but I found it a pain. Anyway, I went back to the photo contacts and added a photo to a contact and an icon like the one I posted showed up only without the 'x'. Then I knew where the icon was coming from. I was just logging on to post my findings when I saw your post. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. :-D
at times callerID get closed down and restarts when that happen that icon is displayed
icon
hey even i get this icon quiet often................. was very curious bout it . but i found out wat it is. wenever ur network in goes off in the sense ur network strenght will show 100 % but it just cuts off for a few seconds and ive noticed if u click on it it just vanishes.so du nworry.its just the network problem. it wont affect ur calls since it lasts for a very small amoutn of time . :lol:

phone wakes up for no reason

not sure here. i think it just started. wakes up like a text message is going to occur, or maybe an incomin phone call, but then nothin happens, and it eventually cuts back off by default.
i also notice something that keeps comin back when i end it, and i don't know if i put it there to begin with.
it's like ceObSvr .. it's always running, and if i kill it, it will likely come back. anything?
i know i tried searching but that doesn't apear to for some people.. just doesn't
Cheers!
edit:
NATF v4.6s, lumos, it's a fuze, radio leaked 25.19, that's it i think
My CDMA Touch Pro wakes up time to time due to low signal strength. I'm not sure if it is only limited to CDMA, so try turning radio off for a while.
wdkingery said:
not sure here. i think it just started. wakes up like a text message is going to occur, or maybe an incomin phone call, but then nothin happens, and it eventually cuts back off by default.
i also notice something that keeps comin back when i end it, and i don't know if i put it there to begin with.
it's like ceObSvr .. it's always running, and if i kill it, it will likely come back. anything?
i know i tried searching but that doesn't apear to for some people.. just doesn't
Cheers!
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NATF v4.6s, lumos, it's a fuze, radio leaked 25.19, that's it i think
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Dear Wdkingery,
Are you using Bluesoleil Bluetooth on you pc/laptop ? have you installed IVT-wm(1.0.2) on your mobile device?
if yes !
then CeObSvr is a programe that is used by IVT Blusoleil Software to transfer data from your mobile to pc/laptop & pc to mobile.
you can remove this file from mobile by going to settings - system and remove programs. *don't remove if you are using bluetooth with your pc for exchanging data.
Best Regards
Kip

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