WiFi On XDA I Discussion - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

I just opened this up to start discussing WiFi support for XDA I.
I understand that there is no SDIO slot in the XDA that will support the SD WiFi cards, however, there must be some smart guy/company out there that is willing to create something for WiFi capability and take advantage of the existing XDA market.
Here are some ideas for discussion:
1. Have an external device that plugs into the bottom slot for WiFi connectivity.
2. Have a company like PocketPCTechs.com that can replace the current SD slot with a SDIO slot.
If anyone knows of anything regarding WiFi support for the XDA I feel free to share. 8)

Agree. For the time being, the only way of getting connected to a LAN or WAN without schlepping your PC to act as a proxy server for pass-through would be to use a LAN/WAN-to-RS232 converter that could be plugged to the serial port socket on the XDA. I have tried a few RS232 I/O adapters with the XDA. and my results are available at:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/prutchi/xda_connectivity.doc
You'll notice that I manage to communicate with resources on the net via a terminal, but haven't been able to trick IE into accepting my RS232 feed yet.

"2. Have a company like PocketPCTechs.com that can replace the current SD slot with a SDIO slot."
yeah but unless the connectors the SDIO use are already drawn out on the curcitboard where the sd connector is located it would be a lot of work
also maybe it would require a speciel rom
i doubt there is a big enough market though for anybody to get their R&D expenses covered with a product which is being fased out

I agree with the comments and feel a Wi-Fi solution for SD would be greatly appreciated.
One track I am following came to me as I was playing with an USB GPS from a colleague( It had no brandname!) and thought the interface could be integrated to a USB Access point device, there is some coding to make the device recognizable!

"One track I am following came to me as I was playing with an USB GPS from a colleague( It had no brandname!) and thought the interface could be integrated to a USB Access point device, there is some coding to make the device recognizable!"
to give the xda GPS ?
cant see how this would give it wireless lan

No I used the GPS interface to the XDA and code for recognizind the GPS to connect to a UPS Wireless Acess Point device from Linksys. I did not buy the RS 232 Cable.

Ronin:
Can you clarify on what you did? My understanding is that you use some GPS hardware to access a Wi-Fi point of access. Is this true? And if so were you able to connect to the internet and use IE, email, etc.?
Thanks

Axe Camarao!
I used the cable for a GPS Device to connect to a USP wireless access point on the XDA( zircom USB 802.11b Access Point). I used the software from the GPS as a template to show me how the GPS got recognized as a unit. I used the standard pin configuration instead of getting a cable and sodering it.( short on time!)
Althougth, I am able to ping various sites from CRT I cannot use it with IE. I am trying to emulate the GPS reader software( which is a browser for that format) and port it to Pocket IE. Potentially, but I do not think I will be sucessfull.
This was a test, because I really wanted a small form Wi_FI for the XDA, but it is more of a nuisance than any practical application. The GPS hardware uses the XDA DLLs and heaps in an interesting fashion and will cause the T-Mobile radio Stack to cease scanning for intermitents periods while the cable is attached.
I am trying to find an SD to CF card converter and use a CF Wi-Fi off the shelf unit...

No luck with the idea of an adaptor from SD to Compact Flash and I cannot get the USB Wi Fi Wireless Acess Point to function in pIE. That tentative solution is still too cumbersome and does not have a good form function either.
I left San Disk support a few messages/email to see if they are planing to release an SD WIFI card that is not SDIO based but have no feedback yet.
Also, "contemplating "a SD Blue Tooth adaptor and creating a bridge to a WIFI hub somehow.
I did download the software for the SDIO and reviewing how it addresses the communication protocols in WM2003 and Pocket PC 2002!
Is there anyone with a SDIO phone who has one of these devices? Does it work?

Now an interesting approach can be found at:
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/ws_display.asp?filter=News%20Detail&item_id={27D5F000-099C-4F7F-8C98-2266E5A4C7AC}
I am sending away for one of these cables- I do have the USB Wireless Access point device and will see if it works...

Bump...
Any news on the WiFi front?
J

not that i've heard but as i see it the market is way too small for any company bothering making a wifi sd-io

I agree. We are not going to get any manufacturer to create an SD card ( when the market is evolving to SDIO anyways) so, I have some "ideas" but need some help to test them out and see if we can get WiFI for our:
Here is the tread:
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=19620#19620

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Wallaby And Wifi

Hello every one ,
Right so now that my SX 56 has been fixed and upgraded to WM 2003,i've got one question:
Is it compatible with those wireless wifi SD cards?
or is the model to old?
many thanx geniouses !!
No, you need an SDIO slot which these handsets don't have. Sorry.
Check this out then, i don't understand, according to this site it is compatible! http://www.pdassistant.net/Siemens/SX56.htm
"Siemens SX56 GPS capable PDA"
judging from this too then most likely they got it a bit wrong
dutr it's gps capable but only if you get an wired external
gps dongle which well does everything gpsWise and send info
over the serial port
in which case many many things are GPS capable
my old 486 pc in the attic too it have a comport too
ok so if i got it right , the update from WM2002 to WM2003 FINAL was useless if i can't use the network card option in the connections menu.
i 'm just trying to find a way to connect to the wireless internet!!
with wallaby the only have to connect it using usb to a pc which have wifi
and access it's wifi using activesync
pete85 said:
ok so if i got it right , the update from WM2002 to WM2003 FINAL was useless if i can't use the network card option in the connections menu.
i 'm just trying to find a way to connect to the wireless internet!!
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The wallaby has no WiFi hardware. Nor can you use an SDIO WiFi card, the hardware simply does not support SDIO devices. You can use GPRS, the datacable or infrared (wouldn't recommend this since you'd have to maintain constant line of site).
So how do i do this with GPRS then cause i can 't seem to get internet explorer
recognise any WAP or WEB pages , even thought i 've got the right settings,
many thanks

I have internet connection BUT no access!? -- SOLVED

SOLVED -- Pilot Error: CFIG -- ref' post at bottom
An Amazon/Woot! G-tablet arrived yesterday, and I'm struggling to learn it as I have NO smart-phone (nor, obv., Android) experience. (I've 44 years of mostly UNIX computers, and I've been networking since dARPAnet days.)
From the start, I was able to CONNECT to my house Wireless router (and get an assigned IP#) BUT nothing that "should"[?] connect to the Internet did: the browser couldn't pull up Google, BBC.com, etc. and the email s/w didn't connect to my gmail acct.
I didn't let that bother me as the Big Goal was to load GingerBread, which I did: Android 2.3.3 (Kernel Version 2.6.32.36-aosp a.k.a. "G_Harmony_Gingerbreadv2.3.3"). Also loaded CWM and GAPPS. 'Took a long time to get that installation process right, but everything seems stable EXCEPT I still CONNECT to my wireless router but cannot get any program to interact with the Internet.
Any suggestions as to HOW to debug or fix this?
Android remains a puzzle to me; I don't grasp its organization and management:
I haven't figured out how to delete a Music file yet! (Once 'did -something- that momentarily displayed a garbage can, but haven't been able to reproduce that.)
I have a 32GB SD card which the Tablet acknowledges, but I haven't ever "seen" it over the USB connection (to Windows 7), not have I seen any Android tools to display/access it. Is it mounted on a UNIX-like directory? Or is it Invisible as an entity?
The #$%^'ing beast disconnected during my download of several books-on-CD (rip'd to MP3's) and now says the SC card is messed up... so I guess I have to erase it and download the data again... hoping it won't disconnect once more.
'Guess it's time to order a book on Android... sigh. If there are any online Primers you'd recommend, I'd appreciate a link!
Thanks, John
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Edit: PS -- Erasing the SD card didn't fix the problem: I still get "an error was encountered on your SD card" when I go to the Music player. 'Guess that means using CWM to format something. More sighs....
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Edit2: PPS -- Yet re-booting restored the Music files... however Windows 7 continues to think the tablet's "drive" needs an error scan/repair. O grief....
Do you have a file explorer installed? That wold easily let you delete and move files.
Your micro SD will not be detected by your computer. You will need to mount your device to the PC and load files onto internal SD then move them to the micro SD with a file explorer. Or you can get a usb SD reader and load them directly.
Do you have wpa or any other encryption running on your wifi? Different roms have trouble with certain protections. I suggest setting your router to accept only preset mac addresses you approve.
I might have disconnected with screen timeout. Set screen to never time out under settings.
Does your rom indicate internal mem as emmc or SD? Some are SD for internal and SD 2 for micro SD.
Mantara said:
Do you have a file explorer installed? That wold easily let you delete and move files.
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I knew FE apps existed, but presumed there was SOME way to delete w/o them. And... since the beast won't communicate to the internet I have to find another way to load apps (via my W7 computer). [I've used Win7 to delete tablet files over the USB port -- gack... that's a nasty method.]
Your micro SD will not be detected by your computer. You will need to mount your device to the PC and load files onto internal SD then move them to the micro SD with a file explorer. Or you can get a suspect SD reader and load them directly.
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I have a PC-attached SDHC reader and earlier looked at the SD card that way. However, I'm not sure what I can DO with data I load onto the SD card since I haven't been able to understand in what ways Android makes use of that SD card. [For example: if I placed a root-dir directory of Music on the card, would Android merge that with the internal Music files?]
Do you have wpa or any other encryption running on your wifi?
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I have some encryption, perhaps WPA, but the Android wouldn't declare that it has a Connection if it hadn't properly matched the security methods on the router. [I vaguely recall seeing the tablet flash a box with the protocol details it found the router using.]
Very frustrating. I expected a more intuitive structure to Android, and fewer problems. I bought this for a trip I'm taking on Friday, but it looks like I won't have email and browsing on that trip.
Most roms have FE apps installed but I'm guessing the barebones GB doesn't.
Have you tried opening your wifi so no password is needed just to see if its a tab flaw in the wifi antenna?
Music players vary. Stock, no. Power AMP yes. With power amp and some free apps you can set the directorys they search for music in.
GB is nice but it is still very fresh and the kinks are still getting workred out in the version for Gtab. There still isn't drivers to enable hardware acceleration. I would seriously recommend vegan b5.1.1 or the clemsyn/calculin rom. Both are super stable and very streamlined. And both are fully tested by thousands of other moders. Worth a shot.
Router?
I have some encryption, perhaps WPA, but the Android wouldn't declare that it has a Connection if it hadn't properly matched the security methods on the router. [I vaguely recall seeing the tablet flash a box with the protocol details it found the router using.]
The fact it is connecting to the router leads me to believe you may have a configuration issue on the router. Do you have the router locked to Mac address filtering or restrictions on access? If that is the case, your tab could connect to the router but not the net.
Mantara said:
I might have disconnected with screen timeout. Set screen to never time out under settings.
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I found where while-on-outlet timeouts could be turned off on the Initial Android (that came on the tablet); I have been unable to find anything which allows more than a 30 minute timeout period on GingerBread.
Does your rom indicate internal mem as emmc or SD? Some are SD for internal and SD 2 for micro SD.
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I'm unsure where you're asking me to find this information: Within a PLUS/POwerOn boot (CWM)? or in the [lame] Storage information under Settings?
greymane98 said:
The fact it is connecting to the router leads me to believe you may have a configuration issue on the router. Do you have the router locked to Mac address filtering or restrictions on access? If that is the case, your tab could connect to the router but not the net.
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I've set nothing fancy on the router beyond basic encryption. I often have friends' computers in here for repairs, and those aren't blocked. Still, opening the router up is an interesting test for manana. Friday a.m. I have to be up and off to the airport around 4am, so I shouldn't be floundering around with this just now!
You wouldn't be able to tell without a file explorer. Just realized that. There has been debate about standard android (emmc/sd) and tablet android (sd/sd2) drive labeling. Didn't know what the newest GB used for labeling drives. It has caused lots of confusion and lead many to accidently format their SD (internal mem ) with cwm.
BasiliskPie said:
I've set nothing fancy on the router beyond basic encryption. I often have friends' computers in here for repairs, and those aren't blocked. Still, opening the router up is an interesting test for manana. Friday a.m. I have to be up and off to the airport around 4am, so I shouldn't be floundering around with this just now!
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Just to get it running for your trip you could at least try a froyo rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884103
Mantara said:
Most roms have FE apps installed but I'm guessing the barebones GB doesn't.
Have you tried opening your wifi so no password is needed just to see if its a tab flaw in the wifi antenna?
Music players vary. Stock, no. Power AMP yes. With power amp and some free apps you can set the directorys they search for music in.
GB is nice but it is still very fresh and the kinks are still getting workred out in the version for Gtab. There still isn't drivers to enable hardware acceleration. I would seriously recommend vegan b5.1.1 or the clemsyn/calculin rom. Both are super stable and very streamlined. And both are fully tested by thousands of other moders. Worth a shot.
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I'm worn out, and have to crash now. Those are good points, and I'll pursue them ASAP.
But I'll pursue snoring just now!
Thanks to all!
Ahhh, a new day... and yesterday's advice to follow up on... and a solution found!
Pilot Error: Controlled Flight Into Terrain [CFIT]
I went to turn off the WPA [or whaddeva] security on the wireless router... and couldn't! Couldn't open the router at the usual 192.168.1.1.
'Did an IPCONFIG and WHOA! Definitely non-standard IP addresses for a home Router/Gateway/etc. Very much like... oh Dang... like Modem-delivered addresses.
Now I recall: just before a recent trip I helped a friend in BudaPest set up a Vulkano link to his mother's ComCast TV service... and to test that it worked from my house I had to directly wire my computer onto the Modem -- Vulkano wouldn't work through my router w/o unknown configuration changes. And I never reconnected the router, nor turned it off, so my tablet was connecting to a disconnected router.
With the router re-cabled, everything works... almost: now the tablet works, but I can't get a stable connection through the WIRED connection to my main computer... the one which was working 15 minutes ago before I re-inserted the router!!! I'm NOT asking for help on that: a few more reboots or a cable change and it will resume working, but for now I've switched to wireless on the computer. [Do't even suggest the most-obvious! I rebooted the modem & switch several times, and the computer as well. But I've now removed Vulkano s/w so maybe that will get the WIRED connection back up after the next reboot.]
Sigh... mea cukpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
Now, back to packing for Colorado! Thanks again!
Able to connect to Wifi, But no Internet access
Hey guys. I am new to the forum, and I am sorry if this has been solved, but I have benn having a hell of a time trying to figure this out. I just gor my G-tab, and with some help from my friend, we rooted it, installed CW, and installed Vegan Ginger Edition. I have another friend who is running the Vegan 5.1, and he has the same issue. We are in a building that has a preinstalled wireless system. We can see the repeaters, and connect to them, but we are unable to connect to the internet. The system requires a login. Another friend has a Sprint HTC phone and he is unable to get the internet either. Any suggestions of ideas?

[Q] Network Harddrive & IP Cameras

I need help configuring my router and tinyCam Monitor app. Here is my setup, Asus RT-N13U rev. B router, Tablet running Android 2.3, and 2 IP Foscams.
My goal: To run the IP Cameras that are directly plugged into the router, wirelessly access the cameras through my tablet using tinyCam Monitor (which it does work), then utilize the recording function with tinyCam Monitor and record the cameras saving the files wirelessly to the a hard drive connected to my router.
Here is where I need some help. I have an external hard drive connected to my router via the USB port, works fine, I can transfer back and forth. I have the IP cameras plugged into the router and I am using the tinyCam Monitor app, which works very well and I am able to view both cameras. The tinyCam Monitor program offers a recording function, which can record to FTP server. The catch is I do not have internet connected to the router.
Question 1: How do I setup my router (ex. FTP server, Virtual Server,…), so I can permanently access the hard drive through my tablet? What setting do I need to setup on the router?
Question 2: Based on the configurations of my router. When I use tinyCam Monitor, do I have the program look for an FTP server? Is there any other path I can use to tell the program where to write the recorded files, so they write to the hard drive connected to the router?
Question 3: Do I need to setup my Tablet with any specific setting, such as an SSH configuration, so it can communicate with the router as I need it to?
Question 4: Mapping the Network Drive??? This is easy on a PC, by just mapping a network drive and I have access to the hard drive easily. Is there a way to do so on my tablet? Setting up the network hard drive as a functioning folder would also be a possible solution to my problem.
Any input or solution will be helpful. This has been a 4 week project of mine and I have reached a point where it is beyond my general knowledge of networking/router configuration and a tablets communication capabilities, vast readings of forum posts, and no tutorials has what I need. I am hoping there is someone out there that is versed in both these areas. I am also hoping there is an answer to my goal or some solution, besides one telling me I have wasted a lot of money.
Thanks a bunch,
-Mr. Frustrated

Wireless N portable cloud storage from Monsterdigital

http://www.monsterdigital.com/otg-cloud-mobile-personal-streaming
Up to 2 terabytes per slot of mobile wireless storage. bring your own drive. Since I do a lot of backwoods camping I figured it would be a great time with the family to watch videos and pictures of the past camping trips and vacations.(great for stories) and nothing like having your entire music collection on top of it.
so I saw this at best buy and figured what the heck, I can return it if it works crappy. I got the smallest 8gb $59.99 (cause I would use my own storage) It was very buggy and I wasn't just ready to return it, it was in the box and bag receipt and all. I had a little insomnia so I gave it another wack. boy was I happy I did. It stream hi-def movies no problem but had to be in line of site within 20 feet.
It has 3 storage points. usb, micro, and sd all can be used at the same time for more than 2 terabytes. I did try a drive with multiple partitions but it did not detect it and I did put a usb hub on it with multiple disks but only detected one of them.
Very touchy to configure, here is how I get perfect results every time.
never change more than one thing at a time and apply settings everytime.
do not change the 10.10.1.1 lan for it as I got better throughput. (do'nt ask me why... I know it sounds strange)
It has pass through to the internet capablites through a rj-45 connector or wireless bridging I chose neither but tested all scenarios and it worked great.
Adesktop browser works great but if your going to use your phone to configure it set "request desktop site"
it's supposed to run for 3 hours and when not in use can double as a battery backup power supply for your phone. Kinda neat you can use it even when your not using it.
the app for it worked fine
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xyzw.otgdriver&hl=en
I also used es explorer and made an ftp connection to 10.10.1.1/tmp/usr and found all the mounts so I would not just have accessibility to the storage through the otg cloud app.
Day 1 negative one star
Day 2 five stars.
I was reading the comments on it in the play store and everyone but one person had something bad to say about it. I'm glad I read his comment because he inspired me to try harder.
hope this helps.
this would solve all those Iphone local storage issues in a heartbeat.
Oops. I just noticed that the personal drive I connected which gets power and data through the same cable was spinning constantly not sure if it was es Explorer but I wouldn't leave the drive connected to it at all time probably does not have a spend down command I would probably go to a solid state drive but that can get expensive so you would probably want to unplug the hard drive when not in use
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I am correcting myself, using es-explorer and ftp'ing to 10.10.1.1/tmp/usb and also a hub connected to the usbport, you can connect to all partitions and connect multiple drive combinations. It does not work through the otg cloud ap. make sure you use wpa2 security because the ftp server is anonymous login only. I was also able to ftp from a command prompt with an anonymous anonymous login while connect. I probably wouldn't want this connected without a firewall for any long period of time that's why I don't use the bridging. (either wireless or ethernet)

Question: USB Wifi - how do you get it to work (plz I need exact steps and links thx)

Question: USB Wifi - how do you get it to work??
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I just tried the newest Android RemixOS as of Jan 25 2017. I read some of what you all have here and I was very impressed with your knowledge, however I have no idea what some of this stuff means even though I can regedit.exe and toss code around in C# and VB.NET and use Framework like a boss. Meaning, if I had the exact steps to fix my problem that would be GREAT!
* My problem, I only have a USB Wifi, my USB keboard and mouse work fine but RemixOS Marshmello will not work together. It just shows the Wifi off and when I click the toggle button to turn it on it just scans. Advanced under Wifi has nothing I can work with.
I heard that the problem -used- to be that USB was not supported at all but my keyboard and mouse work. So is there anything I can do to make the USB Wifi work, I have no internal Wifi for this computer -or- is that the best solution, just get an internal Wifi board that supports 2.4Ghz (which I read somewhere was the other problem, only 2.4Ghz is supported). Also I have no access to my Landlords Wifi so I am unable to play around with it.
Follow up Question: What is rooting and why is it better and why doesn't RemixOS just make everything rooted (since it sounds better and everyone wants RemixOs this way)? Rooted sounds to me like its, "written in stone" but it sounds like it makes it so people can get access to things?
** I already installed RemixOS Jan 2017 version if I have to Root do I uninstall RemixOS first, if so how do you install it from your PC if it made your system into a dual boot?
** Or do you all mean uninstall RemixOS then edit the ISO and put the mentioned code for init() into the init.sh file? is that the Trick?
*** Additionally for anyone that doesn't understand what I said above cuz I am sure I am clear as Mud on my questions. My Wifi is a stick, that is attached to a USB cord that then goes into the Back of my computer into a USB 3.0 port. I have no internal Wifi board and the motherboard is 6 years old and doesn't have much integreated into it except sound, maybe grafx VGA but I installed a RX 780 for a good graphics card.
*** I also forgot to mention it dual boots just fine, just no internet. Thx!
same here, im using TL-WN723N_V3 and wifi always keep searching.
helppp
here the pic
winpoincom/cara-dual-boot-windows-dan-android-melalui-remix-os/
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Generally, wifi adapter connected using USB should work. It maybe a problem with particular adapter type not having driver in kernel or something like that. You can check output of "dmesg" command if it says something about the adapter. For example I'm using quite cheap usb wifi adapter Tenda (W311U+) and it works directly without any intervention.
pakarem said:
Generally, wifi adapter connected using USB should work. It maybe a problem with particular adapter type not having driver in kernel or something like that. You can check output of "dmesg" command if it says something about the adapter. For example I'm using quite cheap usb wifi adapter Tenda (W311U+) and it works directly without any intervention.
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here my dmesg,

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