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Hi ,well I ve bought a 9 month old sx56;I charge it for a few hours ,and when I reconnect the phone fm the crandle,after 20 seconds switches off.I try to switch it on but doesn't respond to the button ,soft reset nor hard reset.What should I do?Now f.e. the sx56 switches on only when you install it to the crandle ,when I reconnect lasts on for a few secs.
Thanks guys.
PocketPCTechs ( http://www.pocketpctechs.com ) offers a Do-It-Yourself kit to replace the battery. Find it here.
dead battery
Thank you
Take care.
My sx56 doesn't respond on battery power
But I'm thinking that ,even if the battery is dead it will notify me or at least swich on for a m.second .Dunno what to say.
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Hello ,
The battery indicates 100% but the device switches off.Even if I uninstall it from the crandle it lasts a few secs ,but when I push the on/off button doesn't switch on again.
Dead Battery
I too have exactly the same problem. Let me know if the new battery fixes it.
Hope it works out
Thanks
xda lasts off the crandle a few secs
Ok,will let you know ,and where to buy the battery ;if that fixs the problem.By the way ,is your xda a 2nd hand too?The battery costs $80 +$24 for shipping.
Cheers
Dead Battery???????
Yes i brought it off ebay! Not sure what the problem is!
If you can post what fixes yours that would be appreciated
Thanks tedd, good luck!
Has NOT been repaired
-With the new battery used to work perfect for many hours but the same day died(after I left it charging for a few hrs).
- When I first installed it , the on/off button didn't respond so I had to switch on by plug it instantly to the crandle.
I first unlocked it by using the rom kichen from Yorch.net. maybe it's a software or hardware matter,who knows...
XDA Battery
THANKS!!!!
I actually desoldered the SIM door switch and bridged a wire across the terminals! The switch was broken you see! The XDA now thinks the door is always closed 8)
Still wouldn't work properly though so I'm going to order one from the same place as you. Hopefully it will then work!
Thanks for your help
Same problem occured!!!Oh my god!
Everything seems ok .For instance,went out and was working perfect for many hours.
When I got home charged it for a three hours.Then before I go to sleep uninstalled it fm the crandle and opened the reader to read a book,and guess what :switched off by itself!.
XDA Sim Door Switch Fix
Tedd: I just sent you the email with the pic in.
For everyone else this is what is did to stop my XDA from resetting all the time!
1) Desoldered the sim door switch and binned it because it was broken!
2) Used one strand of copper wire and bridged over both terminals to trick the XDA in thinking that the door is closed!
3) Remember to tin the wire first as the terminals are very small!
4) FINALLY! Don't take the sim card out when the XDA is switched on!
My XDA still won't hold charge though! Must get a new battery and hope nothing else is faulty!
Here is the pic!
My new battery wasted.
Thank you,Mark for the email. I 've tried everything.
I bought a new 1800 mAh battery but the problem insists.Don't buy another battery yet.
Guys I think that is not up to our hands anymore,we must send it for a repair.I have to ship it to TX .Will post you back again when the diagnosis comes up. Will take some time.
But I insist that the 2 day new battery,I bought, DID NOT solve the problem.Think about it ,which battery does not last even to switch the ppc on for at least 1/4 of sec?
Regards,
Tedd
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My battery lasts a few seconds!!!! Had all the same problems as you!
It works fine when the XDA is connected to external power, but when it is removed it dies!
It also used to reset alot, even with external power! The switch fix has solved that now though.
My power feed to the XDA is from a PC via a BRANDO USB cable. I measured the output from it the other day and it is kicking out 350mA. I don't know if this is even enough to charge the XDA battery!
Someone said between 500mA and 1A is needed to charge the XDA, so this might also be the problem.
No charge even with the 1A charger
I get the same problem with dead battery. If it has a power source, it works nicely. If unpluged from power source, it dies after 20 seconds. I use the original T-Mobile power adapter 1A and it does not charge the battery. I also use another adapter 600mA and does not charge battery neither.
I would love to know how to fix this problem.
My problem started when I upgraded the RS from Tmobile from 6.24.0 to 6.24.1 . The upgrade failed at 1% and then the battery drained and never recharged. I have not try to solder or replace the battery yet.
Ben
Does upgrading the radio stack cause a charging fault?
There have been many posts now with this problem and one thing has become apparent - no-one knows what causes this fault.
After alot of thought i now believe that either upgrading the rsu/ruu or unlocking the xda may cause it not to charge. Many people have reported that failed installations which hang on 1% result in the battery never charging up.
One thing that wories me is that i perfomed an upgrade to 4.21 and that failed at 1%. Thing is though my phone actually still works and recognises it is running the 4.21 version, strange! It still does not charge though - it only runs on power from the USB sync cable.
When i brought my phone off ebay the power button didn't work or the battery wouldn't charge so i couldn't test my theory out
If anyone knows what is going on here i would be glad to here your views cos this problem has got me stumped for sure!
The Final result .
Hello guys. The fault is very expensive to fix it.At least on mine unit.
The special technicians couldn't fix the unit.
They said that I have to replace the whole motherboard for $200.That what the diagnosis showed,a faulse motherboard omg!And they tried many different sources and batteries to charge it.
The phone is useless now.Donno maybe I will pay for it.Maybe not,sell it as it is or for spear parts.
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I think one final solution to go for an SD card copy of the ROM and GSM through the bootloader from a new working XDA1 then flash it into your non working XDA
otherwise as mentioned in another thread telling that the service for the device informed the user that there is a damaged motherboard due to radioStak failure, so he had to purchase a new motherboard for about 300$ as I remember.
Peace
I think one final solution to go for an SD card copy of the ROM and GSM throw the bootloader from a new working XDA1 then flash it into your non working XDA otherwise as mintioned in another thread telling that the service for the device informed the user that there is a damaged motherboard due to radio Stak failure, so he had to purchase a new motherboard for about 300$ as I remember.
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Good idea!
Has anyone got or know where to find a copy of a working ROM and GSM that i can try on my xda.
Currently running
3.17 ruu and 4.21 rsu
Failing that i am going to link the xda up to some high power AA batteries and fool it into thinking that the battery is full. This should allow me to install a new rsu.
I still believe that the non charging fault is software related as i have tried everything! I even bridged a wire across the fuse F0 like aquasesh did! Still not charging though.
If none of these work my xda will surely be dead forever
Fooling the XDA with another battery
That won't work either. I've tried to fully charge an external battery on a different XDA, then connect it to the one with failed RSU upgrade, and it still didn't work (failed at 1%). Some RSU corruptions are just not possible to fix without a serial cable and ceratin software. A user from Russia has observed technicians in a service center fixing failed RSU upgrades using some terminal emulation software, but could not get them to share a copy.
It seems my power adaptor has died..
I have been using it daily with no problem, and charged it over night last night.
I got a new stand today and moved the power supply to a new location, shifting the transformer with the adaptor still plugged in.
From that point on, no charging...
the cable is good cos it still shows up on the PC, although I guess it could be partially broken.
I have tried leaving the power adaptor unplugged for an hour or so, but no luck.
Anyone else have suggestions?
Is it possible that you bent a pin in the slot on the pad that you plug the charger into? Alternatively, you could take apart and reseat the 2 pieces
of the charger itself.
Pins in the pad seem fine, same on the charger.
I just turned it off to see if I could get it to charge from a USB hub on my PC, but it seems not.
This points to the cable being at fault, but with no replacements available I am still stuck with a discharging tablet.
Very Frustrating... I guess I will be Calling Asus support on Monday.
Its a shame Comet is out of stock locally, or I would walk into store for an exchange
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Pins in the pad seem fine, same on the charger.
I just turned it off to see if I could get it to charge from a USB hub on my PC, but it seems not.
This points to the cable being at fault, but with no replacements available I am still stuck with a discharging tablet.
Very Frustrating... I guess I will be Calling Asus support on Monday.
Its a shame Comet is out of stock locally, or I would walk into store for an exchange
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charging thru a PC usb hub is slow...the ac adapter is rated at 15v 1.2a...and a PC hub is only 5v .5a i think...
Anyone know what the adapters for the other tablets are rated at?
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charging thru a PC usb hub is slow...the ac adapter is rated at 15v 1.2a...and a PC hub is only 5v .5a i think...
Anyone know what the adapters for the other tablets are rated at?
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I realise its slow, but I would expect SOMETHING after leaving the TF plugged in for almost an hour turned off!
This might sound ridiculous but unplug the usb cable from the power brick, unplug the power brick from the wall, set them aside....then wait a while (20+ minutes), then come back to it and try to plug it back in.
I had this same exact problem but I did the steps I told you and it began charging again. I'm not sure how or why though.
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This might sound ridiculous but unplug the usb cable from the power brick, unplug the power brick from the wall, set them aside....then wait a while (20+ minutes), then come back to it and try to plug it back in.
I had this same exact problem but I did the steps I told you and it began charging again. I'm not sure how or why though.
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I left it for a while, but I shall try again.
EDIT: On second thoughts, no this isn't the case.
Plugging in the PSU normally turns the tablet on, and currently it isnt doing that.
Bum.
What is your battery percentage at? Anything above 90, and it won't charge until it drops below. Kind of a built in failsafe.
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What is your battery percentage at? Anything above 90, and it won't charge until it drops below. Kind of a built in failsafe.
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Ah yes, it is above 90%, but I am sure it would show the charging icon?
I can only hope this is a false alarm, I will be less annoyed then..
Nope, won't show the charging icon. What I've done, if you want to ease the paranoia, lol, is hold the power button down and keep holding until the device shuts off completely. (do this with the plug disconnected) .. Now, plug the charger back in to the device. The device should power on, and you should boot up to a charging icon.
If it doesn't start up, then yeah, you may have a faulty charger. Let me know how it goes.
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Nope, won't show the charging icon. What I've done, if you want to ease the paranoia, lol, is hold the power button down and keep holding until the device shuts off completely. (do this with the plug disconnected) .. Now, plug the charger back in to the device. The device should power on, and you should boot up to a charging icon.
If it doesn't start up, then yeah, you may have a faulty charger. Let me know how it goes.
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Worth a try, but no, nothing...
Then just let it run down passed 90% (like 88-89%) and see if it charges. If not, then yeah, sorry.
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Then just let it run down passed 90% (like 88-89%) and see if it charges. If not, then yeah, sorry.
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No it does seem to be the PSU, I have used my Desire charger to charge the TF overnight, and got it back to 100%
Looks like I will be calling Asus on Monday
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What is your battery percentage at? Anything above 90, and it won't charge until it drops below. Kind of a built in failsafe.
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It does on mine.
Little tip for you all... don't leave it charging overnight. It may be a bit late advice for some, but for others it might help them ending up with a useless power adapter. Unplug it when it gets to 100%. Get an app that alerts you with a sound, signaling when the battery is full. Battery monitor widget does this. Also unplug it soon after its done charging. This is assuming you don't care about battery life of course.
If you DO care about it then charging it up to 100% all the time isn't a good way to keep your battery healthy in the first place. Loads of guides on the web for Lithium Ion battery care.
There's obviously a problem with the adapter design, due to the amount of threads talking about this very issue, when people leave them charging all night. Maybe they are overheating, or some other reason. Prevention is better than cure.
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It does on mine.
Little tip for you all... don't leave it charging overnight. It may be a bit late advice for some, but for others it might help them ending up with a useless power adapter. Unplug it when it gets to 100%. Get an app that alerts you with a sound, signaling when the battery is full. Battery monitor widget does this. Also unplug it soon after its done charging. This is assuming you don't care about battery life of course.
If you DO care about it then charging it up to 100% all the time isn't a good way to keep your battery healthy in the first place. Loads of guides on the web for Lithium Ion battery care.
There's obviously a problem with the adapter design, due to the amount of threads talking about this very issue, when people leave them charging all night. Maybe they are overheating, or some other reason. Prevention is better than cure.
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Over heating might well be the issue, I am getting that sweet smell of cooked circuit board from the PSU.
Not meaning it to charge over night will be annoying, I like things ready to go come the AM
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Over heating might well be the issue, I am getting that sweet smell of cooked circuit board from the PSU.
Not meaning it to charge over night will be annoying, I like things ready to go come the AM
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Yeah I agree it shouldnt happen. Just saying I think it is. Pretty sure there are guidelines and safety features that are applied to all power supplies to make them safe for use in the home, at least there are in the EU, and it seems these ones are in violation of those guidelines, even though they have the CE approved label. If you are smelling something burning/melting its obviously faulty and needs to be replaced.
Well I tried comet for the warrenty and was directed to the asus support line, which is closed today.
How dull.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
bbilko said:
No it does seem to be the PSU, I have used my Desire charger to charge the TF overnight, and got it back to 100%
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Is using the Desire charger just as slow at using a normal (5V) USB hub?
I'm no engineer but aren't there safeguards built into a charger/battery that is operating normally? ie: put TF on charger overnight, battery draws power till full then stops charging?
I use my TF all day, at night it goes on the charger, at no time does my charger get "hot" to the touch.
Information of PSU model with a known fault here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081435
Sorry if this has been already posted but I kinda need to express my anger. lol
So my rooted Rezound's battery (running CleanROM 2.3) died today while i was working. So being the dude I am I put it on the charger. It's been on a charger for the past 30ish minutes and it still wont turn on or give me any type of led indicator telling me that the phone is being charged.
Before you say "try a different charger or cable" I have, multiple times.
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Advise?
The phone won't charge a that's completely dead right away. Leave it plugged in longer.
sent from my newly unlocked Rezound
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Sorry if this has been already posted but I kinda need to express my anger. lol
So my rooted Rezound's battery (running CleanROM 2.3) died today while i was working. So being the dude I am I put it on the charger. It's been on a charger for the past 30ish minutes and it still wont turn on or give me any type of led indicator telling me that the phone is being charged.
Before you say "try a different charger or cable" I have, multiple times.
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There are many threads on this already...
The rezound, mostly ones with a 3.8v battery not the 3.7v batteries cannot charge a dead battery.
Check some of the other threads as there were a bunch of different little tricks people tried. I just don't remember them all.
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well the odd thing is i have a 3.7V battery. Its been on a working charger now for over an hour and still nothing.
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well the odd thing is i have a 3.7V battery. Its been on a working charger now for over an hour and still nothing.
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Sorry to hear about the battery issues. I've heard of alot of people complaining of the same problem. Most just went to Verizon and had them replace the battery but having a phone that dies and won't recharge would be my biggest worry (why is HTC letting these kind of issues happen?).
Some said they fixed the issue by throwing the dead battery in a Thunderbolt for a bit to charge it up. So if you cant find a fix, either have them replace the battery, or take it in the store and ask them to put it in a thunderbolt for like 20 minutes while you wait?
Sorry that I couldn't come up with a better fix for you. I wish you luck.
Honestly I'd take it back to Verizon and get them to replace/fix it.
I just read another post with a possibly fix. I will not be held responsible if it doesnt work or messes something up
Unplug charger
remove battery
plug charger in
insert battery (while charger is plugged in)
except i hit the power with no battery in it idk if it makes a difference but yeah..
^^^ worked for me
dccoh said:
I just read another post with a possibly fix. I will not be held responsible if it doesnt work or messes something up
Unplug charger
remove battery
plug charger in
insert battery (while charger is plugged in)
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I wish I saw this before I paid $14 for the overnight shipment of my replacement.
Mine froze and died while playing a game, then would not charge or turn on at all. In fact, my extended battery was in when it died, and it wouldn't turn on with the standard battery either. When I got my replacement, I tried both and only the extended worked, so I had to go to VZ to get a replacement standard battery. My phone must've used some sort of battery ESP to kill the standard when it died.
Quick side rant and warning: 1. WhyTF am I paying for overnight shipping on a like-new replacement model of a $300 phone that died during normal use? Horse dookie.
2. If you do need a replacement, dont activate a 3g phone during the down time...it kills the SIM card and they dont send another one!
I think I can help
plug your phone into the charger and take off the back cover. Now with the phone plug in take the battery out and put it back in and leace the back cover off now you should see the orange light on the front come on. If this works hit the thanks button.
try the fix listed above and if that doesnt work a verizon store should be able to help you test your battery/phone and order you a replacement under warranty if neccessary
Me personally would wip out some split cables and force that **** on lol but yea batteries can be charged as long as some form of reasonable electricity touch the correct pins....
I had this happen once, my son ran it dead playing games. I think it must have over heated. I was using the extended battery and was able to put the regular battery in and it worked. I did give it a half hour to cool down first...
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Hi There, Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Galaxy S2 without a battery, or trick it into thinking it does have one and just run off power?
My phone works, but kills a battery in about 30 minutes. There's one resistor in there that gets super hot after being water damaged, but only with a battery in.
Wouldn't know where to buy a new resistor, so wouldn't mind leaving it permanently docked and run my audio for the house through it if I can somehow run it without a battery
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I think it can run without battery but can't boot without battery
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I think it can run without battery but can't boot without battery
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Just tried that on another S2 I have and it didn't work
Sorry to revive a old thread, but I would also like to know if there is a way to trick the phone into booting from a power supply instead of a battery. I am attempting to hardwire an old S2 into an imbedded in car media player blah blah blah.....long story short I have issues using the battery.
If I leave the phone plugged into a constant powered USB when the car is off and the phone is sitting dormant it over charges, the battery gets super hot, I get the overcharge/overheat warning etc. If I disconnect it, then I have two issues, first it loses charge as it is in use and pulling it when I park means having to bring it inside and top it off etc. The second problem is....it kind of defeats the purpose of an "embedded system".
I have the software set up perfectly and I love the way it all works. My only current hitch is the battery issue. If I can bypass it I know I can run a off delay relay, so that when the car is shut off the USB cord stays "hot" for say 1 hour then shuts off thus removing power. This option seems tedious and the parts more expensive then a simple power supply replacement. Unfortunately I do not know the software side.
I have been able to get the phone to boot without a battery, however as soon as it is done booting I get the "battery low, plug in" warning, then a few seconds later the phone shuts off........Is there a way to keep the phone from shutting down at that point, or get it to ignore the fact the "battery" is at 0%?
Edit: When I say I can get it to boot without a battery, I am wiring a power supply directly to the two pins that the battery + and - would be touching.
techoverload said:
Sorry to revive a old thread, but I would also like to know if there is a way to trick the phone into booting from a power supply instead of a battery. I am attempting to hardwire an old S2 into an imbedded in car media player blah blah blah.....long story short I have issues using the battery.
If I leave the phone plugged into a constant powered USB when the car is off and the phone is sitting dormant it over charges, the battery gets super hot, I get the overcharge/overheat warning etc. If I disconnect it, then I have two issues, first it loses charge as it is in use and pulling it when I park means having to bring it inside and top it off etc. The second problem is....it kind of defeats the purpose of an "embedded system".
I have the software set up perfectly and I love the way it all works. My only current hitch is the battery issue. If I can bypass it I know I can run a off delay relay, so that when the car is shut off the USB cord stays "hot" for say 1 hour then shuts off thus removing power. This option seems tedious and the parts more expensive then a simple power supply replacement. Unfortunately I do not know the software side.
I have been able to get the phone to boot without a battery, however as soon as it is done booting I get the "battery low, plug in" warning, then a few seconds later the phone shuts off........Is there a way to keep the phone from shutting down at that point, or get it to ignore the fact the "battery" is at 0%?
Edit: When I say I can get it to boot without a battery, I am wiring a power supply directly to the two pins that the battery + and - would be touching.
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any solutions to this yet?
the phone has a circuit that controls power and charge level by communicating with the battery so it will always know that the battery is removed because the battery feedback circuit will not be present.
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but i have a solution that may help others out.
I have found a way to power the Galaxy S2 GT-I9100T from an external power supply ( i have also tested on S3 GT-I9300 and S5 SM-G900I).
My first step was to create a dummy battery out of perspex, you could use any non conductive material.
Make sure you include the alignment notches and keep it as close to the size of the original battery so it is a snug fit and wont accidentally fall out.
When you know the perspex fits you can start fitting the contact terminals, make sure you have the polarity correct and that they line up with the contact terminals of the original battery and the spring terminals in the phone.
Once you have the terminals fitted you can then look at powering up your phone, i used a LM2596 based DC-DC converter that i had laying around.
If you are using a variable DC-DC converter like i did make sure you adjust the output of the power supply BEFORE connecting to your phone to prevent you destroying your device.
My DC-DC converter is set at 3.88 Volts, this value seems to trick the phone into thinking it has a battery with greater than 40% charge that way you don't get the annoying low battery alerts.
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How about taking your admittedly innovative idea one stage further.......
If you have an old battery laying around, why not (very carefully) remove the top part of it for use with your perspex replacement....this top section contains the overcharge protection circuit which would help to provide added protection to the device....it also has the benefits of the facts that the battery connection points are already in place and correctly aligned (it also has those alignment notches at either end).....imo, an improvement on an already good idea....
I got problem with my SGS 2 - after long on-shelf time battery drained to absoltely zero. My voltometer showed 0 on every connector. I was unable to charge or boot my phone (24h+ on charger, no signs of life). Dead, bricked, gone... Battery was relatively new (some months) so I didn't want to buy another one. Then I read Spud2233's post... and tried it .Well, kind of variation. I connected charger to phone's USB port and additional power (Motorola's dual port charger) to internal batterys connector (simly stripped old USB cable). Then battery was inserted and.... voila! After 2 or 3 retries my phone booted in and started to charge. I disconected additional power cable, phone is loading as usual. Battery revived!
Thanks for inspiration, Spud2233!
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I got problem with my SGS 2 - after long on-shelf time battery drained to absoltely zero. My voltometer showed 0 on every connector. I was unable to charge or boot my phone (24h+ on charger, no signs of life). Dead, bricked, gone... Battery was relatively new (some months) so I didn't want to buy another one. Then I read Spud2233's post... and tried it .Well, kind of variation. I connected charger to phone's USB port and additional power (Motorola's dual port charger) to internal batterys connector (simly stripped old USB cable). Then battery was inserted and.... voila! After 2 or 3 retries my phone booted in and started to charge. I disconected additional power cable, phone is loading as usual. Battery revived!
Thanks for inspiration, Spud2233!
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Just registered to say thanks for this tip!
I too have had SII batteries go dead after too long, and the SII seems to be unable to power up without a voltage across the battery terminals.
I used a small variable power supply set to about 3.5 V. I trimmed some thin hookup wire until only a few strands were left and 'pinched' them between the battery terminals and the phone battery contacts. Then with a charger plugged in to the phone I was able to 'trick' the phone into turning on. Once booted the battery charged fine.
Note I think this should be done quickly as the phone and power supply will fight each other for as long as the voltage is placed on the contact, so I pulled the PS wires out (keeping the battery in) as soon as the phone was booted up.
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I got problem with my SGS 2 - after long on-shelf time battery drained to absoltely zero. My voltometer showed 0 on every connector. I was unable to charge or boot my phone (24h+ on charger, no signs of life). Dead, bricked, gone... Battery was relatively new (some months) so I didn't want to buy another one. Then I read Spud2233's post... and tried it .Well, kind of variation. I connected charger to phone's USB port and additional power (Motorola's dual port charger) to internal batterys connector (simly stripped old USB cable). Then battery was inserted and.... voila! After 2 or 3 retries my phone booted in and started to charge. I disconected additional power cable, phone is loading as usual. Battery revived!
Thanks for inspiration, Spud2233!
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Thank you so much for the solution to my problem! I have purchased TWO batteries already and they both stopped working after drained to zero. I was blaming a charger or a quality of the battery. I found other posts suggesting to remove a capacitor but it wasn't broken...
Thanks to you, I have just booted my phone, pulled out extra power after couple minutes and it charging on its own now! (well 5% as I speak).
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Just registered to say thanks for this tip!
I too have had SII batteries go dead after too long, and the SII seems to be unable to power up without a voltage across the battery terminals.
I used a small variable power supply set to about 3.5 V. I trimmed some thin hookup wire until only a few strands were left and 'pinched' them between the battery terminals and the phone battery contacts. Then with a charger plugged in to the phone I was able to 'trick' the phone into turning on. Once booted the battery charged fine.
Note I think this should be done quickly as the phone and power supply will fight each other for as long as the voltage is placed on the contact, so I pulled the PS wires out (keeping the battery in) as soon as the phone was booted up.
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szydas said:
I got problem with my SGS 2 - after long on-shelf time battery drained to absoltely zero. My voltometer showed 0 on every connector. I was unable to charge or boot my phone (24h+ on charger, no signs of life). Dead, bricked, gone... Battery was relatively new (some months) so I didn't want to buy another one. Then I read Spud2233's post... and tried it .Well, kind of variation. I connected charger to phone's USB port and additional power (Motorola's dual port charger) to internal batterys connector (simly stripped old USB cable). Then battery was inserted and.... voila! After 2 or 3 retries my phone booted in and started to charge. I disconected additional power cable, phone is loading as usual. Battery revived!
Thanks for inspiration, Spud2233!
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I am in the same situation with SII batteries go dead after too long.
I do not understand this part
''I connected charger to phone's USB port and additional power (Motorola's dual port charger) to internal batterys connector (simly stripped old USB cable). Then battery was inserted and.... voila!''
or this part
'' I trimmed some thin hookup wire until only a few strands were left and 'pinched' them between the battery terminals and the phone battery contacts. Then with a charger plugged in to the phone I was able to 'trick' the phone into turning on.''
how is this different than inserting the battery in the phone and then connecting the usb power supply?
blue whale said:
how is this different than inserting the battery in the phone and then connecting the usb power supply?
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The phone won't charge the battery if it doesn't detect (sufficient) voltage. You can "jump start" the charging process by tricking it with a fixed voltage across the terminals.
so I take my dead battery, then
-take a usb charger+usb cable
-strip the usb cable to get two strands
-put one strand of the usb cable on the + of the battery
-put one strand of the usb cable on the - of the battery
=>the battery is charging
[or easier, I take battery like this,
put one strand of an electric cable on the +, connect this cable to the + of the phone battery, then put one strand of the electric cable on the - of the battery and the - of the phone battery
then I put the battey in the phone with usb power supply IN and the phone boots ???
I wouldn't use a USB cable, 5 V is probably too high.
blue whale said:
or easier, I take battery like this, put one strand of an electric cable on the +, connect this cable to the + of the phone battery, then put one strand of the electric cable on the - of the battery and the - of the phone battery then I put the battey in the phone with usb power supply IN and the phone boots ???
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Yep, that's exactly what I did (except I used a 3.5 V power supply).
Once the phone has begun booting you should probably disconnect the "jump start" battery as quickly as possible or it'll fight the charging circuit.
fpN3eqU said:
I wouldn't use a USB cable, 5 V is probably too high.
Yep, that's exactly what I did (except I used a 3.5 V power supply).
Once the phone has begun booting you should probably disconnect the "jump start" battery as quickly as possible or it'll fight the charging circuit.
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but you agree that connecting the phone battery the charged green battery is like charging the phone battery [at least a bit]?
then I would just use the phone battery normally, by inserting it into the phone and boot the phone and finish to charge the phone battery.
blue whale said:
but you agree that connecting the phone battery the charged green battery is like charging the phone battery [at least a bit]?
then I would just use the phone battery normally, by inserting it into the phone and boot the phone and finish to charge the phone battery.
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Not really, the SII battery will still be dead after a few seconds "charging". Getting the voltage across the phone battery terminals tricks the phone that there's a charged battery present so it will boot and continue charging it. Otherwise it gets stuck in something like a boot loop looking for the battery (mine did anyway).
If you could charge it separately from the phone then obviously you'd just do that.
Thank you for all your tips. I tried similar stuff, but I guess the voltage was just not right.
So I asked around to get a spare battery, which which I powered on the phone. It worked like charm.
I change the battery while the phone was running and tada! my phone was loading the "out of order" battery just fine.
Pretty much the same trick you guys did, but with less soldering and more quick magic happening ^^
regsnerven said:
Thank you for all your tips. I tried similar stuff, but I guess the voltage was just not right.
So I asked around to get a spare battery, which which I powered on the phone. It worked like charm.
I change the battery while the phone was running and tada! my phone was loading the "out of order" battery just fine.
Pretty much the same trick you guys did, but with less soldering and more quick magic happening ^^
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I did just that to my s2 and his dead battery.
I was scared to go with ONLY a 18650 battery to charge the dead battery (no phone or usb charger involved) : I did not know if I should connect pole+ of the 18650 with pole + of dead battery (and pole - of 18650 with pole - of dead battery) which is the parallel scheme or the opposite, to go with the ''series'' scheme
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I was scared to go with ONLY a 18650 battery to charge the dead battery (no phone or usb charger involved) : I did not know if I should connect pole+ of the 18650 with pole + of dead battery (and pole - of 18650 with pole - of dead battery) which is the parallel scheme or the opposite, to go with the ''series'' scheme
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You were right to be scared. You should not do that. The dead battery might draw too much current. That could be dangerous. Read a bit about how charging of Li-Ion batteries works: first you charge with constant current (CC), which depends on the battery's design, once it reaches the correct voltage (4.2 V for a single cell), it should go into constant voltage mode, and then you have to know at what time or remaining current you shut the charger off. A good rule of thumb is to wait till the current drops to 10% of the charging current. E.g. if you were charging the battery with 1 A***, you should turn off the charger when it's down to 100 mA.
***1 A is just an example that would work for most modern phone batteries. However, this can be different! Ideally it's written on the battery.
Also, it's very well possible that in newer phones the battery will only output voltage if the charging circuit inside the phone allows it to. At least that's the case in notebooks for many years, and I don't see why it should be very different for phones.
Hello all!
I recently purchased a used Droid Razr Maxx from a co-worker. The lcd screen was cracked so I replaced it. I took apart the phone completely and reassembled it with the new screen in place. The phone turns on just fine, the Motorola icon shows up and it gets to the charging battery icon with 5%, but after a few hours of letting it charge, it stays at 5% and wont turn on. Keep in mind, the phone has been charging for two hours from the time this post was made.
My question is, did I somehow damage the battery when operating internally? I can replace the battery if needed.
Another question. If I damaged the motherboard, would the phone turn on at all?
I am kind of wondering if there is a certain thing I needed to do before plugging it in.
To answer any questions that might be asked: The battery was completely dead when I did repair the screen. The charger is a wall usb charger, not plugged into my computer. I did place all the components inside the phone, to the best of my knowledge. I have had experiences when it comes to internal repair.
check for how long this 5% charge remain. it usually happen due to problematic battery guage
faheemakbar18 said:
check for how long this 5% charge remain. it usually happen due to problematic battery guage
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Morning now. The battery is still at 5%. The phone shuts off soon as the charger is not connected. Does not seem to hold a charge. Think I should buy a new one?
Garret27 said:
Hello all!
I recently purchased a used Droid Razr Maxx from a co-worker. The lcd screen was cracked so I replaced it. I took apart the phone completely and reassembled it with the new screen in place. The phone turns on just fine, the Motorola icon shows up and it gets to the charging battery icon with 5%, but after a few hours of letting it charge, it stays at 5% and wont turn on. Keep in mind, the phone has been charging for two hours from the time this post was made.
My question is, did I somehow damage the battery when operating internally? I can replace the battery if needed.
Another question. If I damaged the motherboard, would the phone turn on at all?
I am kind of wondering if there is a certain thing I needed to do before plugging it in.
To answer any questions that might be asked: The battery was completely dead when I did repair the screen. The charger is a wall usb charger, not plugged into my computer. I did place all the components inside the phone, to the best of my knowledge. I have had experiences when it comes to internal repair.
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It could be a faulty charger.
Normally, If the battery is poor, it won't hold charge but it won't stick to a particular percentage. It will only discharge sooner. But given the fact you got the phone dead, it might as well be the battery.
Worst scenario, you damaged the charging port.
I'd begin with using a different charger, if that doesn't work, try another battery.
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It could be a faulty charger.
Normally, If the battery is poor, it won't hold charge but it won't stick to a particular percentage. It will only discharge sooner. But given the fact you got the phone dead, it might as well be the battery.
Worst scenario, you damaged the charging port.
I'd begin with using a different charger, if that doesn't work, try another battery.
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I have used other chargers and they all work for my other phones, just not this one. I am hoping it's a dead battery and not something to do with the motherboard. My friend wont let me dismantle his phone to see if it's the batter, lol.
Just the clarify, the phone doesn't boot up completely, only to the charging screen. The battery icon with 5% shown. When I unplug the phone from the charging screen, it just dies. Will not even boot up to the phone animation.
I purchased a battery replacement off of Ebay. It'll arrive in a few days. Let's hope this works!
Still could be the charger. Did you check voltage and amp specs? 850amps 5.1v
This phone can be picky. First razr I got had broken screen, repaired it and found myself in the same situation.
Connecting to a laptop would not charge it. Only stock charger. IPhone charger or chargers designed for iphones will not work.
Edit: When replacing battery, position is critical. If battery terminals are a little bit displaced it will not turn on.
Displacement can be minimal or imperceptible but will cause troubles. If possible don't place cover before checking that it turns on. (please avoid touching circuits or battery terminals or will get worse).
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angrist said:
Still could be the charger. Did you check voltage and amp specs? 850amps 5.1v
This phone can be picky. First razr I got had broken screen, repaired it and found myself in the same situation.
Connecting to a laptop would not charge it. Only stock charger. IPhone charger or chargers designed for iphones will not work.
Edit: When replacing battery, position is critical. If battery terminals are a little bit displaced it will not turn on.
Displacement can be minimal or imperceptible but will cause troubles. If possible don't place cover before checking that it turns on. (please avoid touching circuits or battery terminals or will get worse).
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That was exactly the problem....
I got the new battery, but not 24 hours later, I was realigning the cables inside it (like the front facing and rear cameras, along with the WiFi antenna) I slightly moved the replaced battery and the cable to the battery to the motherboard tore itself. After a long face-palm moment, I got the old battery back in place and realigned it very carefully. It turns out it still works, but I am out a new battery.
Apart from the battery, I need to find out why the front speaker won't work. Either the speaker is damaged or something needs to be in place correctly, besides the cable. Also need to get some adhesive gel to bond the screen and case together.
Damn I really had forgotten about that speaker. The fact is it tends to break. It has very fine copper wire winding that can break when you remove it the wrong way.
Having no experience I pulled not knowing that speaker is glued to motherboard. At that time I didn't knew it and thought that little bar left was part of the motherboard.
Since you disassembled almost everything, that must be the reason it is failing. If it is not that, it is badly plugged but I really doubt it.
Alas Never fixed it, so i can't tell correct process to reassemble or disassemble that speaker. Instead I searched for apps that would activate loud speaker automatically during calls.
Would have been nice to fix it but I got the opportunity to acquire a RAZR maxx so never touched and sold instead.
Removing that glue might involve using a hot air gun. So that you don't damage motherboard removing by force. (But again too much heat could Fry motherboard)
Maybe someone could share it's experience?
About that screen, Remember to have read about a 3m adhesive spray in some thread.
Also some one just passed hot air that melted original glue but it would be better not to play with heat over a battery.
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