Hello all!
I recently purchased a used Droid Razr Maxx from a co-worker. The lcd screen was cracked so I replaced it. I took apart the phone completely and reassembled it with the new screen in place. The phone turns on just fine, the Motorola icon shows up and it gets to the charging battery icon with 5%, but after a few hours of letting it charge, it stays at 5% and wont turn on. Keep in mind, the phone has been charging for two hours from the time this post was made.
My question is, did I somehow damage the battery when operating internally? I can replace the battery if needed.
Another question. If I damaged the motherboard, would the phone turn on at all?
I am kind of wondering if there is a certain thing I needed to do before plugging it in.
To answer any questions that might be asked: The battery was completely dead when I did repair the screen. The charger is a wall usb charger, not plugged into my computer. I did place all the components inside the phone, to the best of my knowledge. I have had experiences when it comes to internal repair.
check for how long this 5% charge remain. it usually happen due to problematic battery guage
faheemakbar18 said:
check for how long this 5% charge remain. it usually happen due to problematic battery guage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Morning now. The battery is still at 5%. The phone shuts off soon as the charger is not connected. Does not seem to hold a charge. Think I should buy a new one?
Garret27 said:
Hello all!
I recently purchased a used Droid Razr Maxx from a co-worker. The lcd screen was cracked so I replaced it. I took apart the phone completely and reassembled it with the new screen in place. The phone turns on just fine, the Motorola icon shows up and it gets to the charging battery icon with 5%, but after a few hours of letting it charge, it stays at 5% and wont turn on. Keep in mind, the phone has been charging for two hours from the time this post was made.
My question is, did I somehow damage the battery when operating internally? I can replace the battery if needed.
Another question. If I damaged the motherboard, would the phone turn on at all?
I am kind of wondering if there is a certain thing I needed to do before plugging it in.
To answer any questions that might be asked: The battery was completely dead when I did repair the screen. The charger is a wall usb charger, not plugged into my computer. I did place all the components inside the phone, to the best of my knowledge. I have had experiences when it comes to internal repair.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could be a faulty charger.
Normally, If the battery is poor, it won't hold charge but it won't stick to a particular percentage. It will only discharge sooner. But given the fact you got the phone dead, it might as well be the battery.
Worst scenario, you damaged the charging port.
I'd begin with using a different charger, if that doesn't work, try another battery.
neo.ank said:
It could be a faulty charger.
Normally, If the battery is poor, it won't hold charge but it won't stick to a particular percentage. It will only discharge sooner. But given the fact you got the phone dead, it might as well be the battery.
Worst scenario, you damaged the charging port.
I'd begin with using a different charger, if that doesn't work, try another battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have used other chargers and they all work for my other phones, just not this one. I am hoping it's a dead battery and not something to do with the motherboard. My friend wont let me dismantle his phone to see if it's the batter, lol.
Just the clarify, the phone doesn't boot up completely, only to the charging screen. The battery icon with 5% shown. When I unplug the phone from the charging screen, it just dies. Will not even boot up to the phone animation.
I purchased a battery replacement off of Ebay. It'll arrive in a few days. Let's hope this works!
Still could be the charger. Did you check voltage and amp specs? 850amps 5.1v
This phone can be picky. First razr I got had broken screen, repaired it and found myself in the same situation.
Connecting to a laptop would not charge it. Only stock charger. IPhone charger or chargers designed for iphones will not work.
Edit: When replacing battery, position is critical. If battery terminals are a little bit displaced it will not turn on.
Displacement can be minimal or imperceptible but will cause troubles. If possible don't place cover before checking that it turns on. (please avoid touching circuits or battery terminals or will get worse).
Sent from my XT910 using xda app-developers app
angrist said:
Still could be the charger. Did you check voltage and amp specs? 850amps 5.1v
This phone can be picky. First razr I got had broken screen, repaired it and found myself in the same situation.
Connecting to a laptop would not charge it. Only stock charger. IPhone charger or chargers designed for iphones will not work.
Edit: When replacing battery, position is critical. If battery terminals are a little bit displaced it will not turn on.
Displacement can be minimal or imperceptible but will cause troubles. If possible don't place cover before checking that it turns on. (please avoid touching circuits or battery terminals or will get worse).
Sent from my XT910 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was exactly the problem....
I got the new battery, but not 24 hours later, I was realigning the cables inside it (like the front facing and rear cameras, along with the WiFi antenna) I slightly moved the replaced battery and the cable to the battery to the motherboard tore itself. After a long face-palm moment, I got the old battery back in place and realigned it very carefully. It turns out it still works, but I am out a new battery.
Apart from the battery, I need to find out why the front speaker won't work. Either the speaker is damaged or something needs to be in place correctly, besides the cable. Also need to get some adhesive gel to bond the screen and case together.
Damn I really had forgotten about that speaker. The fact is it tends to break. It has very fine copper wire winding that can break when you remove it the wrong way.
Having no experience I pulled not knowing that speaker is glued to motherboard. At that time I didn't knew it and thought that little bar left was part of the motherboard.
Since you disassembled almost everything, that must be the reason it is failing. If it is not that, it is badly plugged but I really doubt it.
Alas Never fixed it, so i can't tell correct process to reassemble or disassemble that speaker. Instead I searched for apps that would activate loud speaker automatically during calls.
Would have been nice to fix it but I got the opportunity to acquire a RAZR maxx so never touched and sold instead.
Removing that glue might involve using a hot air gun. So that you don't damage motherboard removing by force. (But again too much heat could Fry motherboard)
Maybe someone could share it's experience?
About that screen, Remember to have read about a 3m adhesive spray in some thread.
Also some one just passed hot air that melted original glue but it would be better not to play with heat over a battery.
Sent from my XT910 using xda app-developers app
Related
Hey guys!
I have a weird issue with my phone, and after doing a bit of research I got a bit pessimistic, so here it is:
When I unplug my phone from the charger, the phone stays in "charging" state, which means the charging icon is there, the battery stats are not shown correctly, I can't plug it into my PC via USB, etc. It also doesn't enter deep sleep, since there is a vbus_present wakelock held, which is normal for charging.
I've read that water damage can be one of the causes, and if I think of it, I did have my phone with me, while I took a long bath. While the phone didn't touch any water, the air humidity was really high , so I could blame this for the issue.
Do you have any suggestions / ideas?
Thanks!
Hello?
My phone is dying here!
Sounds like water damage to me... however sometimes, to my knowledge, the issue can be solved like the fuel_alerted wakelocks: pull battery for a while and reinsert. But I assume you already tried that, so water damage would be my best guess although air humidity shouldn't cause that...
It is the same for me when I dropped my phone into water. However, it is now normal again ( lucky me). For your case, I think it water damaged, I would suggest you dry your phone. Take out the battery, dont use phone for some hour(4-5hrs in my case), dry the phone by whatever you can( I just put in under the sun for 15mins, and put it in a bag of rice). It was 2 days since I got the problem, but now its ok. Just try it.
Hope it helps
P/s: still get some minor problem but I can bear with it though
Fixed ?
Hi,
It seams a bit too laste to answer, but it might help someone esle.
I had quite the same issue, and it seams that the solution is to clean the phone USB slot with a toothbrush...
cant post the reference url cause i'm new... so search for "galaxy s2 won't turned off"...
VBUS present wakelock caused by using Apple compatible charger
It does not look like this was ever resolved, so figured I would chime in since I have been looking at this for a while.
If you use a charger which is compatible with Apple products, it will cause the vbus_present wakelock since Apple does not adhere to USB standards and requires two of the pins to be bridged or open (can't remember which) to work for their products. However, when you charge a device that does adhere to USB standards with one of these chargers, it will cause the wakelock (on all the samsung phones I have seen, anyway).
Another downside to using an apple compatible charger is that you can never get more than 500ma out of it due to the non-standard USB connection, even if the charger is capable of 2000ma output. So you get slower charging.
When you are connected to any charger, this wakelock will be present. If you use an Apple compatible charger, it will persist after you unplug it and will drain your battery around 10% per hour since it prevents it from going into deep sleep. You can clear the wakelock by rebooting the phone or plugging it into a standard USB charger, such as a PC or Samsung charger, even for a few seconds.
You can use Better Battery Stats to see the effects of this wakelock. Note that it can take a few minutes to show up once you have unplugged from the apple charger.
Yes, this really p*sses me off. This is one of the reasons I no longer have any Apple products in my house and long since thrown away all the Apple compatible wall chargers I once had. It still comes back to bite me since I still have a couple of chargers that contain batteries to charge when you are away from a wall outlet and they both cause this. When I use them I just have to make sure I reboot afterward. The USB outlet I have installed behind the stereo in my car also causes this wakelock. I have one to replace it but have not gotten around to removing the stereo to do this yet.
The next best solution to never using an apple compatible charger at this point would be to have a kernel that addresses this and removes the wakelock after it is unplugged but I don't see this happening.
Man, I know you love your S II, but don't go taking a bath with it!
Was this recent? why don't you give the little guy a rest and leave it a day in rice, stucked inside a zip lock bag, can't hurt.
Googled this "vbus_present android battery not plugged in"
found this thread. Seems to have worked for me by simply rebooting. thx!
:crying: So this is the first time in a while I have posted here. But annoyingly enough my Gtab (for the second time) has not been taking charge. It will turn on when plugged it (but no red light) so I assume its the battery that won't take a charge. The last time this happened I formatted it, then nvflashed it, and let it sit for 24 hrs before charging. I will try that again but any help or input is appreciated
One of my Gtabs doesn't charge very well either. The charging pin is messed up and will only charge when I plug it in and prop it in a certain way. Sometimes the red light turns off, sometimes it stays on but still doesn't charge. Eventually I will have to re-solder the connection, but have been putting it off. If you cannot fix it by other means (try a different charging cable? reflash as you suggested?) here is a good set of instructions on how to do this.
Gtab Charging Pin Repair
Good luck and I hope it doesn't come to this. You could also buy a charging dock if you don't want to tear apart and solder your tablet. Also, here is some info on battery replacement if that turns out to be your problem.
Info on Gtab Battery
Gtab Battery Ebay (not advertising, just trying to help)
+1 to DaggerDave's suggestion.
From my research the Gtabs power plug is very VERY flimsy. I've had to solder mine back on (and a hefty amounts of glue) and now it works fine, though I treat it very delicately. The dock is going at around $50 on fleabay (search malata/gtab dock)
YAY
DaggerDave said:
One of my Gtabs doesn't charge very well either. The charging pin is messed up and will only charge when I plug it in and prop it in a certain way. Sometimes the red light turns off, sometimes it stays on but still doesn't charge. Eventually I will have to re-solder the connection, but have been putting it off. If you cannot fix it by other means (try a different charging cable? reflash as you suggested?) here is a good set of instructions on how to do this.
Gtab Charging Pin Repair
Good luck and I hope it doesn't come to this. You could also buy a charging dock if you don't want to tear apart and solder your tablet. Also, here is some info on battery replacement if that turns out to be your problem.
Info on Gtab Battery
Gtab Battery Ebay (not advertising, just trying to help)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tthats really good information thanks! :laugh:
but i did get it to work. I opened up my tablet and checked to make sure the battery was plugged in its socket thing. Guess what. it wasnt.
It probably became loose when i had to open it up to fix my screen. So all i did was reattach it and put a small piece of electrical tape over it, just in case.
:laugh:
So, to start this off my rezound fell into a pool with me. Rushed and did the usual steps for drying it out and all that. The battery was the only thing that took water damage according to the sensor. So I bought a new one and it won't charge the battery. The one time I got the phone on it read 0% charged after sitting for 6 hours. Now it's either blinking orange or staying orange for around 5 seconds. Is there anything I can do?
DincWeeman said:
So, to start this off my rezound fell into a pool with me. Rushed and did the usual steps for drying it out and all that. The battery was the only thing that took water damage according to the sensor. So I bought a new one and it won't charge the battery. The one time I got the phone on it read 0% charged after sitting for 6 hours. Now it's either blinking orange or staying orange for around 5 seconds. Is there anything I can do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like your phone is damaged, the old battery was probably fine, the water indicator is there to let Verizon know the phone had water damage when people try to warranty them...
I'd throw it in a bag of rice a little longer, see if there's any more moisture stuck in it, otherwise it's time for a new phone...
I had a similar situation, minus the water, but you might try pulling the battery out and charging it manually with a power supply set to supply 5 V and current limited to 1 A. Let it charge like that for 20 min and try putting it in the phone again. If it still will not work, then it could be that the leads on the phone that connect to the battery are corroded and need to be cleaned.
swilbert80 said:
I had a similar situation, minus the water, but you might try pulling the battery out and charging it manually with a power supply set to supply 5 V and current limited to 1 A. Let it charge like that for 20 min and try putting it in the phone again. If it still will not work, then it could be that the leads on the phone that connect to the battery are corroded and need to be cleaned.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How would I go about doing this?
DincWeeman said:
How would I go about doing this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I take that to mean you don't have access to a variable voltage power supply. Not a problem, but it would help if you at least have access to a voltmeter or multimeter. You would need to plug in your charger with cable and test each of the leads to see which two have 5 V across them. Then attach wires to both and the other end of each wire to the positive and negative leads on the battery itself. I would use a different cable (not micro-usb) so that the leads are larger and easier to access. If you cannot do this, then you could use a stand-alone battery charger like this:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...peId=12852&accessoryId=48042&initialPhoneId=0
But that would require you to buy one, which may be a waste if the phone is actually the problem. But if you do buy it and it turns out the phone is the problem, you could keep the receipt and get a refund.
As far as clean the leads on the phone, you could try mixing baking soda and water (little water) into a thick paste and scrubbing with a tooth brush. The paste will need to sit on the metal leads for some time (30 mins to 2 hours depending). Then use isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) on tissue to clean any remaining garbage/residue. Then you will need to let it dry again, ideally in a sealed container with silica or rice. I would probably leave it in there for at least 24 hours.
If both of these don't fix the problem, then you probably have either shorted some internal circuitry or have some other corrosion inside the phone somewhere.
Well I really can't try that suggestion broke college student and all. Thanks though.
You can get this external charger cheap. I have it, works fine:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054U58OY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here's a battery to go with it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0079Q67IC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Note to self check amazon before ebay. This one should work too right?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429190799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Ever since sometime yesterday or something. My phone has been steadily discharging whilst plugged in.
I charged my phone to full yesterday and noticed that it was charging a bit slowly.. but eventually it got there.
Then I unplugged it and plugged in a really low battery (4%) to charge it to full overnight (I have 2 batteries)
I woke up to the phone at 26% after an entire night of charging (about 8 hours).
I thought that the battery must be dead. It's a cheap one from Ebay but it has the official sticker on it, but it's a bit creased so it looks like it could be a cheaper one with a fake sticker on it. It always used to last about 20% less than the original one I got with the phone anyway. But that isn't the point.
I thought it must be dead. But I charged it a little before work and nope, it just kept dying. So I started worrying if the charger had died.
Then I just swapped the battery out and decided to use the fully charged one.
After about a days use I went to plug it in and it ALSO started discharging whilst being plugged in.
In fact they seem to discharge FASTER if plugged in.
I immediately thought that the little Wall Socket to USB Adapter had just blown. So I unplugged it and just plugged the phone in via my PC's USB 2.0 Port.. Same thing.. it sits on the same Percentage (%) and then gradually (if I use it at all) it starts to discharge.
It's charging so slowly that if I use it at the same time it'll die. When before I could even have a Skype call and keep it plugged in and it would overcharge through the amount of power I was using.
Does anyone have any ideas? It can't be the battery because both of them are dying no matter one, and they can't have both died. It might not be the little USB charger (although it no longer gets hot like it used to) because if I plug the phone straight into a USB port on my PC (I know the mW is lower but it should still prove if the charger is dead or not) then it still discharges.
Any ideas? I mean... it looks like somehow the USB port is no longer taking a charge? Without my phone I am a dead man.. it will totally mess up my work and everything...
Have you used a different cable? You said you plugged it into your PC USB port but you didn't say with which cable.
I don't have another cable :/ as it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
9/10 it's the cable that's the fault.
It's not proprietary. I walked into a shop and said "2 micro USB cables please" and they both work better. Also my HTC and blackberry micro USB cables both work better. Try another cable. Borrow one if you have to
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
I have a micro USB cable.. it's for my HDD and it doesn't fit. It's a little bit too big. The last HDD I had too was the same, just a bit too big. Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
Also, I tried doing a file copy from the phone to my PC and back and forth. The speed is totally fine, really fast.
So could it still really be the phone? I'm a pessimist and I don't see why the cable would just suddenly die... I've already had my phone replaced on one of the 'sudden death' issues like everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if there's yet another hardware fault...
At the moment it's off, and charging from the wall.
EDIT: Maybe it's a Mini-USB not a Micro.. in that case I have 1 Micro USB. Still I think my phone just died somehow overnight................. again.
leijonasisu said:
it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what? yes you can
Well cables are expensive in Finland but I suppose I have no choice but to bike down into town and buy another cable...
Most hdd caddies are indeed mini
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
leijonasisu said:
Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, your phone uses a traditional micro USB. and data speed is not really connected to charging speed
New cord seems to have fixed it. 'Hama' brand (Finnish) triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors. Looks a lot higher quality than the traditional Samsung one. (Unshielded, no gold plating)
Also it's a bit longer, which I dunno if that will affect the rate of current. I know that shorter is better. It's 1.8m vs the older 1m.
Seems to be charging properly now, still a bit slow (phone is off) but I suppose that could just be the battery getting used to actually receiving a proper current finally.
Christ and I almost went and just bought an iPhone...
If in the end it was just the cord then €12.95 bought me peace of mind.
EDIT: Scratch that
It won't charge if the phone is on at the same time... it just sits at the same level of power. But if I use it, yeah it starts to discharge.
So basically it's lost the ability to charge whilst being used, and on top of that it did charge pretty slowly when turned off, but at least it did.
Looks like I'm going to have to sort out a way to fix it, then maybe sell it and get something else. I can't handle a phone that's such a disappointment.
The Galaxy S2 was a bit of a let down, to RMAs to Samsung now...
leijonasisu said:
triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sounds like something Monster cables would sell
Shame that it doesn't seem to have done the trick.
I'm really confused now. The battery I got off the net doesn't seem to be charging really at all, but ever so slowly when the phone is off.
The other battery, my normal OEM one charged sorta slowly but kinda normally I guess..
Really don't know what on earth is going on. It's going to be a total pain to get this thing repaired a second time, and it's been rooted and flashed multiple times. Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
So the oem battery charges normally?
leijonasisu said:
Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
of course you can, use TA
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
Glebun said:
So the oem battery charges normally?
of course you can, use TA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
tigerporc said:
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
====================================================================
Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
leijonasisu said:
Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
====================================================================
Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
spike305 said:
I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since no one replied with a solution I will let you know my fix. I sent it to Samsung for repair under warranty and they have fixed the issue. It is due back tomorrow. Just so anyone else having this issue knows its covered under warranty.
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
S3 charging problem
5h1n1gam1 said:
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I´m having the same problem. I flashed my S3 i9300 to a cianogenmod 11 ROM. It's a relief to know it's not the ROM. The technical service prom the phone companies here really suck, so i'm taking my S3 to a third party cellphone technician and tell you if he solved my problem.
try this.
dear poster I have a solution that may work for you ,first thing take the battery out of the phone and leaving the battery out plug the charger in .leave it that way for about an hour .then unplug phone pop battery in turn the phone on .the replug the charger while the phone is still on and see if it charges better .
Hello. My wife recently dropped her S2, with enough force to eject the battery. It had worked after she put it back in and all, and even called me to tell me about it. However, the battery ended up dying before she plugged in it. When plugging the phone into usb, the button lights would flicker and the battery charging icon would flash on for about a second. Rinse and repeat. If there is no battery in the phone, it just flickers the buttons, and the screen will flicker back, and just do it over and over.
The USB port on it was already really shoddy, so I bought a new ribbon and replaced it. Same symptoms. Pretty sure this is a hardware problem, although what the problem is exactly I do not know. I've already reseated all of the ribbon connections I could find. There's obvious signs of previous water damage, but it looks like very old damage. I wouldnt' be surprised if something is corroded, but the timing of this happening after it was dropped makes me think something else came loose. I just don't know what. I could potentially try to reflow the motherboard with my heat gun, but before I waste my time doing that, I was wondering if there's _anything_ else that could be causing these symptoms.
Thank you.
Over the 2-1/2+ years I have been reading this forum, I have seen a number of cases reported where the battery discharges fully and then will not recharge in the phone, while the phone exhibits symptoms similar to the ones you report. As far as I can remember, in every case the phone would boot up when a fully charged battery was inserted. And once the battery was charged, phone would then recharge the battery as long as it was not completely discharged. Not all phones behave this way. For instance, I have fully discharged my phone on several occasions without issue.
Therefore, I would first try inserting a fully charged battery to see if the phone boots up ok, and see if it will charge with a partially charged battery. Some have had to buy an external charger just for this purpose, or borrow a charged battery from another phone, etc.
creepyncrawly said:
Over the 2-1/2+ years I have been reading this forum, I have seen a number of cases reported where the battery discharges fully and then will not recharge in the phone, while the phone exhibits symptoms similar to the ones you report. As far as I can remember, in every case the phone would boot up when a fully charged battery was inserted. And once the battery was charged, phone would then recharge the battery as long as it was not completely discharged. Not all phones behave this way. For instance, I have fully discharged my phone on several occasions without issue.
Therefore, I would first try inserting a fully charged battery to see if the phone boots up ok, and see if it will charge with a partially charged battery. Some have had to buy an external charger just for this purpose, or borrow a charged battery from another phone, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the detailed reply. I will try to find a battery. I do have a question though. If the battery was the cause of this, should the phone not act like this if the battery was not inserted? I would expect it to boot up just fine with the wall charger plugged into it without the battery in it, but that does the same thing (minus the battery icon).
Thank you.
I'm just not sure the answer to that. I can't remember if anyone mentioned that, although as I think about it, it seems like someone mentioned that as well. Still, I think this should be the first step in trouble shooting, because if this is the issue, and the phone is otherwise fine, then you don't want to be using a heat gun on it, or any other more difficult steps until you have eliminated this possibility.
Also, you might consider sending the phone out for repair if this step does not solve the issue. Assuming you are in the USA, Mobile Tech Videos is a very reputable shop that can deal with many issues.
You may be correct on this. The battery won't even charge through the external charger (my atrix battery charges fine on it so the charger is good). New battery (even though this is new) it is.
Update: The pins on the battery were labeled wrong. The label wasn't placed in teh correct position. I looked up a pic of another battery and found the label was offset by 1 pin, so I offset the charging pins by 1 and bam, it started charging. 50% charge, popped in the battery, and boom, booted right up.
Thanks creepycrawler!