Hi Folks~
I have an XDA (QTEK 1010) had been working perfectly fine, until yesterday. After taking a call, when I tried to make a call I noticed the Speaker Phone activated automatically. I can't hear anything even the tried to play an MP3 from the Media Player but still didn't work.
Then I plugged in the Hands-Free, could listen to the Sound but the Mic seems to be have been disabled. (Even after plug-in of the Hands-Free, the Speakerphone still remains activated).
Pl. HELP !
Thanks !!
the manual say something about holding down the phone button turn the speaker phone on and off
Doesn't work, I've already tried it
Btw am using the following, pl. let me know if the ROM/Radio Stack Versions have to do something with it
DEVICE : QTEK 1010
Model No.: PW10A1
ROM Version: 3.18.04 ENG
ROM Date: 05/22/03
Radio Version: 3.25.00
Protocol Version: 32S54
Thanks !!
You could back up your data and try a hard reset, a bit drastic I know but its pretty useless as a phone at the moment.
Apologies for the Information in Bit & Pieces (am a newbie).
I've already checked after Soft & Hard Reset to the Device, the problem is still there.
Regards
This is exactly what happened to me back in November, after my little Xavier (an XDA) went for a swim in a flooded gutter.
I'll bet that if you go into the Wallaby BootLoader and try the diagnostics, it'll behave itself.
Unfortunately, the news was not good for me: $1500 to have it repaired.
"Liquid Ingression", they call it. *grumble*
I decided against it. My XDA still works as a soundless PDA (or, as it turns out, a hopelessly overpriced Universal Remote Control).
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I'll bet that if you go into the Wallaby BootLoader and try the diagnostics, it'll behave itself.
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Can you guide me through ? How to run the diagnostics ?
Any help with the Diagnostics ?
I've tried over-writing the ROM, still didn't work ...
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Any help with the Diagnostics ?
I've tried over-writing the ROM, still didn't work ...
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http://xda-developers.com/bootloader
Thank you!
Let me try it out .. :arrow:
Still not working ..
Should I upgrade it to PPC2003 from the YOrk Kitchen ?? Will it help resolving the problem ?
I was thinking if it could be bcz of a loose connection inside the device (altough the device never fell down since I've got it).
Any help would be appreciated.
Rgds/
There's a good chance that it needs vendor support.
Take it back to the place you bought it... if you didn't drop it or get it wet, the warranty should cover it.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
The problem is that there is no Local Support for XDA in Pakistan yet ...
The Only Option I've got is to ship it internationally, which would be Expensive :roll:
Just tried Updating the Stack, didn't Work either .. Pretty Strange what else could happen.
If I attach a Hands-Free I get to hear the Sounds, but no Sounds on the Speaker .. person calling me can't hear me nor can I hear them. The Situtation is same I try to make a Call "Speaker Phone On" Pops-UP.
Though I tried to records the Recording, When I speak while the recoding on the playback just gives a huffing sound, no clear Audio.
Stuck with an Expensive XDA with No Phone & No Speaker Sound !!!
From the limited information provided to me by the repair centre, and looking over the details on xda-developers.com, I think your audio chip (or something related to it) may have fried. Mine was caused by water damage... a lot of water damage, at that...
Without the Sound, there's no charm in using it anyways ... bought a new Nokia 6600 a few days back and am using it ... now waiting for the Battery to be drained & when re-charged expecting a miracle to happen
I hope it works again !! I love the XDA !
Guess What .. the XDA is working perfectly fine now.
The only thing I did was to place it in my Drawer for a couple of Days .. Keeping it outta my Sight )
Miracles do happen ;-)
I have this problem now... Although it has not got wet?? Exact same as described as above...
Although in bootloader diagnostics the mic/speaker work fine. When booted in to windows I get the speaker phone coming on automatically, and no sound
Guys,
This problem drives me crazy constantly. The only explanation I found (by empirical approach) as follows:
My XDA works fine always except at winter, when I stay outside, and the XDA surface covered with steam condensate because of temperature differences. Condensate may not be seen visually, but some electronics inside has short circuit or changes in chains resistance which cause XDA to think that ‘speakerphone mode’ is on and misbehave.
To resolve this problem I just keep XDA in the worm place (like stay in apartment) for 30 min and / or plug it to charger which bring XDA to normal mode (by warming it up and thus removing steam condensate). No other ways found so far.
Regards, Andrey
Let me know if you know how to resolve it once and forever (do not advice me to thru it out :wink: )
This solution doesn't work for me
Amazing.. I've tried banging my XDA off of my desk, sticking all sorts of crap in the headphone socket (at this point, I didn't really care if I broke it more lol)... nothing worked..
Then just now, I thought.. hm.. I'll just blow as hard as I can in the little hole... I did this for a good five minutes.. and it now works
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Ok...
I haven't found anyone else that would admit to trying these headphones with my phone (Dopod 838 Pro).
The headphones themselves are pretty cool. They fit pretty well, don't look toooo dorky, and the buttons click nicely etc. I haven't had them go flat on me yet. They could have come with a protective case though, and you have to take the microphone off to charge them, and I'm always afraid I will lose it.
When I first got them, they sounded crap. AM radio crap. I updated them to the latest firmware from the BlueAnt website (what a drama).
Tested, and they worked ok with the dongle - not exactly hifi sound, but the quality was ok to listen to.
Next I called BlueAnt HQ here in Australia, and after getting put through to a tech support guy he told me "They should work fine, I tried them with an iMate JasJam - no problems. Do a reset and try re-pairing them" (Duh).
Then I called the Dopod support line in Australia. During business hours. It goes through to an answering machine that doesn't even have an introduction message. Left a message. No reply.
Just as I was about to return them, I found the A2DP software tweak/patch on the wiki. First let me just say:
AAARRRGHHHH! What they hell are Microsoft thinking? Why have a registry setting \HKLM\StereoMusic\MakeMyMusicSoundLikeCrap=1 setting in the first place, and THEN why ship all phones with that enabled as the default? How many people have returned perfectly functioning Bluetooth headsets because of that? STUPID. I reckon Microsoft/HTC owe BlueAnt (and others) a truck load of money.
Secondly, that helps. Music is now stereo. I've been using them every day for a few weeks now. The bad news:
1) The quality is still very poor. There is a metallic hissing/sizzling/sibilance sound, especially noticeable on female vocals, which sounds (to me) exactly like a poor bitrate encoding error. The quality is much worse than when I pair it to the dongle it came with. I suspect it is the phone (or the MS BT stack) at fault not the headset. I would really like to be able to fix this.
2) With Wifi enabled, the music cuts out every few seconds. Unlistenable.
3) With Wifi disabled, I get the occasional glitch. I can live with that (if I must)
4) Using the headset profile during a phonecall, the sound I hear isn't too bad (a little muffled) but people tell me I sound really distant and hard to hear.
5) The AVRCP support is dodgy. Most of the time it works. Often when I first hit Play, it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I have to hit Play/Pause again and it starts. Track seek and volume up/down seem to work well. Answering a phone seemed hit and miss at first, but seems to mostly be working now. Not sure if this is the phone or the headset.
The iMate JasJam listed in the compatitabilty section of the BlueAnt website, but the Dopod 838 Pro is not. I emailed BlueAnt with my findings, and suggested they add the A2DP hack to their FAQ for other users. Hasn't appeared yet.
So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
2) Is there a Widcomm (?) stack that works on the Hermes that may fix the problem, or...is it likely to be any better with WM6?
3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
4) Would a Bluetooth 2.0 headset give a better result? (Is it a bandwidth issue?)
Any replies would be helpful.
Thanks guys,
Zilch.
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
When you consider that most people are having a nightmare with their stereo headsets (read the Widicom thread, if you have a lifetime to spare), then I am totally impressed with Blue Ant.
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
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Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
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I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
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Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo).
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Ehh... they could pay up and get a proper BT-stack from Widcomm....
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Thanks for the reply!
Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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I haven't used the dongle for a long time but when I did it was thru my HiFi playing CDs not MP3 so there may have been a difference in quality but never bothered to compare as I never had a problem with the playback quality from my Imate.
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
I have model H1.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
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Did you set a bitrate?
I have model H1.
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I wonder if this is the difference. Mine is an H4 version.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
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Just for the record, I got the headphones a few days after I got the phone. The only thing I had done was put my SIM card in, copy a few MP3s and change the default theme (since the Dopod one is grey).
There were no mods/hacks/cooked ROMS/tweaks etc. Just the ROM it came with which is also the latest version on the Dopod website. My phone is supplied to me by work, so I need it to be as reliable as possible - I can't afford to mess around with it. (Which is one of the reasons I resent having to edit the registry to get some stereo headphones to play in stereo)
Note: Today I have a few apps installed. An RSS reader, train timetable, TomTom etc. Only hack is the registry change for A2DP, and a util which sets the soft input to Block Recognition mode on startup. None of these seem to have affected the quality of the A2DP stream in any way though.
Unless I can try my headphones with someone's JasJam, or another Dopod I'm not sure I'm going to be able to narrow down the issue. I think it has to be a difference in the X4 hardware/firmware or an issue with the Dopod ROM (compared to the JasJam one)
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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I have it as a work phone too - and work in IT. I haven't had any issues with it except Windows Media Player losing the tracks on the storage card, and the device locking up from time to time (this is always when I am not using it - it is turned off and does not turn back on). Overall it's a great phone!
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
Zilch said:
I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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Don't use X5 at work, but when I'm relaxing at the beach or around the pool. Use X3 connected to my Imate and my private phone at work. AT the time it was the only headset that would connect to more than one device and works great.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
How can this guy have any point of referance? How can he know he has made an improvement if he never bothered to use it properly in it's std state? And he will no doubt curse and abuse Ms and HTC for producing crap hardware and software.
As you say each to their own but it's hard for me to understand some ppls mentality.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
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If I was tempted to do that, right after getting it is probably when I would do it. Reloading all your stuff sucks. Plus if he needed it SIM unlocked to use it that could be why.
Plus, what a better way to learn than bricking a $900 brand new phone?
Zilch.
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So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
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3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
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To answer my own question in case anyone else is having this issue...it's all fixed with the official WM6 ROM. Works perfectly. (Except for the dropouts when WiFi is enabled)
yeah I have them and have had for quite some time now ... first used them with my Eten G00 then the G500+, then I changed phones to a nokia n73 and things didn't seem so good. anymore I lost the remote functions and even though I like the new phone I missed some things like nav and others so i went back tot he g00+. I have now updated to the HTC Tytn II I think sim to your hermes ....
I find nothing wrong the x5 controls a re great and quality is exceptable... I have no issues with Wifi.. I have the updated firmeware on my x5 and the stock firmware on my tytn II..
I also have a hs850 paired to the device the only thing I deslike on the hole issue is that everytime I use the x6 I have to fiddle around getting them to resume the pairing.
where as my hs-850 I just turn on blue tooth and turn on the headset... and off we go...
I have the x5 set as default headset and default stereo headset... the hs850 is just another device listed and pairs up soon as its turned on.
Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I can't seem to find it. can you upload it somewhere? Or give me a link?
With WM6, I had matched my bluetooth earphone with prophet,then I can see the BT headphone symbol on dialing menu.However, if I reboot Prophet, the connection will lost,when I making a call, it won't auto connect to my BT earphone(the WM5 rom did),I have to open setting->connect>BT rematch it to use my earphone.
The problem also happens if,
1.First build connection between phone and BT earphone.
2.Take away the phone only(far enough to let them unable to communicate)
3.Take back the phone and make a call. The BT connection won't re-connect untill you re-matching it.
It makes me very inconvience, thanks a lot if someone can help me to fix it.
Thank you!
I have the very same problem in all of PDAViet's roms. After soft reset the bluetooth partnership setting is gone (although the symbol of the paired device is still there..) I have asked for a fix several times but no one seems to care.. Very strange that only a few people seem to make regular use of their bluetooth headset....
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Thank you!
I have the very same problem in all of PDAViet's roms. After soft reset the bluetooth partnership setting is gone (although the symbol of the paired device is still there..) I have asked for a fix several times but no one seems to care.. Very strange that only a few people seem to make regular use of their bluetooth headset....
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Why do you complain so unsympatically? Remember that you flashed your device yourself. Nobody forced you, nobody let you pay for the software. You downloaded all by yourself a file that a smart person somewhere in Vietnam or Thailand or Russia or where ever, has put together becourse his hobby is to fool around with his PDA. That same person was so friendly to let the whole world join in on his party.
But don't complain when that person don't like to spend his time on your problems, for as far we know his doesn't have a BT headset at all and isn't interested in that functionality. It will become a whole different piece of meat when you had purchased the ROM, but you haven't....... did you....?
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rondol1 - I like your thinking, my sentiments exactly.
is there anyone can help?
Same sproblem with other bluetooth devices
I think it is not just a BT headset problem but a BT stack problem. I'm using a BT GPS and I had to re-pair GPS and Prophet each time I use (althoughit seems like it is already paired)
It is irrelevant maybe but similar problem exist on e-mails. I create an account for my email provider, download e-mails, but after a reset it looks like my e-mail setting are gone (have to re-configure it) But even when it seems settings are gone I can see it on my today plugin that I have such number of e-mails ( I can get to see them)
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Why do you complain so unsympatically? Remember that you flashed your device yourself. Nobody forced you, nobody let you pay for the software. You downloaded all by yourself a file that a smart person somewhere in Vietnam or Thailand or Russia or where ever, has put together becourse his hobby is to fool around with his PDA. That same person was so friendly to let the whole world join in on his party.
But don't complain when that person don't like to spend his time on your problems, for as far we know his doesn't have a BT headset at all and isn't interested in that functionality. It will become a whole different piece of meat when you had purchased the ROM, but you haven't....... did you....?
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I did NOT "complain" about the problem not being fixed so far, but about the missing reaction of some of this community when I posted the question about the status of this problem on new ROMs several times (which this forum should be there for) and there was just no answer at all. Because I do not want to flash my device with every new "release" only to find out that the problem is still there. I am indeed aware of the fact that not everyone is using BT functionality and that a new OS manually adapted to an "older" device is something that cannot be free of issues from the beginning.
Any change on this behaviour with the new PDAViet ROM 4.0.0.0.6 Touch? Anyone tried?
Same problem
Thanks for All and for every thing they did to make prophet for WM6 but this bluetooth problem is really killing me also every time i am using my car bluetooth i have to pair
Same problem in all rom's
Have tried almost all rom's, same problem.
The problem seems not to be releated to the diffrent BT stacks. Have tried different. Also it is not related to the BT devices. Have used Handfree. Stereo headset. GPS unit. Serial ports on remote PC etc. All have the same problem. Works when paired. Then after a soft reset unit are still in the BT list. But they have all have to be re paired to work.
Surely have something to do, with the units loosing most, or some of the settings after reset. Its an anoying problem, which we all will have to look into.
All the new rom's are nice to have, and to play with. But if we wants the rom's to be good for regular and daily use. We sure needs to fix this problem.
I will start to do my own little investigation, trying to fix the problem.
The problem is the same in all rom's. So if its solved in one rom, I'm pretty sure its solved in all roms. (99% sure , I think)
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Have tried almost all rom's, same problem.
The problem seems not to be releated to the diffrent BT stacks. Have tried different. Also it is not related to the BT devices. Have used Handfree. Stereo headset. GPS unit. Serial ports on remote PC etc. All have the same problem. Works when paired. Then after a soft reset unit are still in the BT list. But they have all have to be re paired to work.
Surely have something to do, with the units loosing most, or some of the settings after reset. Its an anoying problem, which we all will have to look into.
All the new rom's are nice to have, and to play with. But if we wants the rom's to be good for regular and daily use. We sure needs to fix this problem.
I will start to do my own little investigation, trying to fix the problem.
The problem is the same in all rom's. So if its solved in one rom, I'm pretty sure its solved in all roms. (99% sure , I think)
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I know why this is but so far I havn't figured out how to solve it.... the problem is that settings are stored in the ram and not the rom... the way we need to get it to work is have the regestry moved to the extrom and that way it can be writen to directly without having to keep the regestry in the ram..... this can be done but I havn't fully understood how this is don't because I've been trying so hard to figur uot the X button problem... but I'm reading up on how to do that
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I know why this is but so far I havn't figured out how to solve it.... the problem is that settings are stored in the ram and not the rom... the way we need to get it to work is have the regestry moved to the extrom and that way it can be writen to directly without having to keep the regestry in the ram..... this can be done but I havn't fully understood how this is don't because I've been trying so hard to figur uot the X button problem... but I'm reading up on how to do that
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Thats correct. Seeting in RAM are lost, and there by Bluetooth pairing, email settings etc. Now knowing what causes the problem, some one clever, sure will some up with a solution. Will try to se if I can contribute with anything.
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Thats correct. Seeting in RAM are lost, and there by Bluetooth pairing, email settings etc. Now knowing what causes the problem, some one clever, sure will some up with a solution. Will try to se if I can contribute with anything.
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Strange thing is, I've tried a few WM6 ROM, but never had any problems with lost emailsettings. I use it a lot, and just as everybody, I have to do a soft reset, once in a while...
So, the RAM storage as you describe isn't lost in all cases but also written to ROM.
As for BT I only use my gps-receiver and even that one only now and then It seems t work fine, but to be honest most of the time I've flashed my Prophet between several times....
I've the same problem with BT : always working with BT GPS, always loosing my BT Headset (try with 3 differents Headsets ...).
Be with devellop's team for correct this probem, and not with guy who critic this post without an BT Headset .... This is a forum and the critic is here to help the building of a 'very good' and more stabe as possible WM6 Rom ...
All together for the future ....
rondol1 said:
Strange thing is, I've tried a few WM6 ROM, but never had any problems with lost emailsettings. I use it a lot, and just as everybody, I have to do a soft reset, once in a while...
So, the RAM storage as you describe isn't lost in all cases but also written to ROM.
As for BT I only use my gps-receiver and even that one only now and then It seems t work fine, but to be honest most of the time I've flashed my Prophet between several times....
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try change your battery or just pull out your battery overnight, i'm sure you will experience this problem. Sometimes on my phone when battery goes below 50% if I reset will loose setting sometimes. Just annoying but i can live with it.
The only way to keep your bluetooth, wifi and email settings all the time without worries is to use WM5.
If someone wants to try the bug, just soft-reset the phone while connected to the PC via activesync.
I guess that you will lose your settings (i'm not 100% sure because I'm now using WM5).
okeee.....
That are things I didn't try indeed. But at the other hand, what hould I want to do all that?
Tried the battery-change right away. Everything is still in order, no settings missing, time and date still as it should, email working as it allways did.
I did shut down my device first though.
rondol1 said:
Tried the battery-change right away. Everything is still in order, no settings missing, time and date still as it should, email working as it allways did.
I did shut down my device first though.
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You might be one of the lucky ones then. I believe majority of us looses settings at various times. what model specs are your device do you have anyway? is it new when u purchased? the reason i asked cuz somewhere i read there is a "button cell battery" might be a wizard thing not prophet devices.
kenxu said:
You might be one of the lucky ones then. I believe majority of us looses settings at various times. what model specs are your device do you have anyway? is it new when u purchased? the reason i asked cuz somewhere i read there is a "button cell battery" might be a wizard thing not prophet devices.
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I did buy my S200 new, without any branded OS, that means straight from Qtek. It's a G4, other specs Im willing to tell when you can precise what you want to know.
But... I don't want to be arrogant... when I read the many bug-reports I get the feeling that a majority don't use their device as it is supposed to. If you imagine that it is a small device with very limited hardware specs, it's not hard to understand that it isn't as foolprove as your desktop computer...
But again, it's just a feeling I get by reading many post, I also know that some of you have serious issues that cannot be explained from maluse point of view.
hello forumer
im new here...
i need ur all suggestion
im using 818 pro for 1 year....
after warranty finish a few days
my propphet having a problem
when i make or received a call....
i can't hear anything, same with other person....
is it speaker and mic problem?
but i can play music, video and ringtones as good as new....
some person said i can try to flasing to wm6.1...
can anybody help me.....
tq.....
HARDWARE Problems.
charlies_uno said:
hello forumer
im new here...
i need ur all suggestion
im using 818 pro for 1 year....
after warranty finish a few days
my propphet having a problem
when i make or received a call....
i can't hear anything, same with other person....
is it speaker and mic problem?
but i can play music, video and ringtones as good as new....
some person said i can try to flasing to wm6.1...
can anybody help me.....
tq.....
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1. if you can make recordings with you prophet, that means the mic. of it is working fine,
2. can hear music, that mean the speaker in fine.....
3. well, did you mute your phone?
4. or alternatively, you may try to flash other roms, but,
5. you can also try to hard reset you phone before starting any further.. ^_^
Good Luck~~
i am saeidba i have this problem
hello
i have this problem too
i sure this problem is not hardwarly.
when i use the handsfree bluetooth its work fine.
pleas help our.
thanks
i mail : [email protected]
saeidba said:
hello
i have this problem too
i sure this problem is not hardwarly.
when i use the handsfree bluetooth its work fine.
pleas help our.
thanks
i mail : [email protected]
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is it really can solve our problem?
can handsfree bluetooth can help me?
i've try using original handsfree but still can't solve this matter...
i will try to use bluetooth handfree...
i hope i can use back my prophet.....after buying new phone...
hehhe
hardware problem...
ive had this several months back...
its due to using the headphone a lot of the time that causes the metal in the audio jack to damage or lose its "spring"ity..hehe...
theres way to fix it...try find some post in xda
d4rkfun3ral said:
hardware problem...
ive had this several months back...
its due to using the headphone a lot of the time that causes the metal in the audio jack to damage or lose its "spring"ity..hehe...
theres way to fix it...try find some post in xda
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my problem not fram audio jak . i tryed that .
i cann't use headset and handsfree whit wire . i can only use hadsfree bluetooth . and when i chenge my device ROM the headset work but after 10 min or 15min or few more that not work . early after softrest that work but after few hours again headset not work . and when i use over and over for several time of headset that work and again after few minutes headset not work .
saeidba said:
my problem not fram audio jak . i tryed that .
i cann't use headset and handsfree whit wire . i can only use hadsfree bluetooth . and when i chenge my device ROM the headset work but after 10 min or 15min or few more that not work . early after softrest that work but after few hours again headset not work . and when i use over and over for several time of headset that work and again after few minutes headset not work .
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1. You case did sound like the ear-piece of the prophet is getting aged. (hardware matters)
2. Aging of electrical components cause unstable performance of the hardware,
3. I am afraid you need to replace the ear-piece of your prophet to dig your way out.
( or re-flash you prophet will be an alternative, to see if really a chance for software problem)
if so, feel free to flash with the tool from my signature.Error free anyway~ ^^ )
Good Luck ~~
dioxda2 said:
1. You case did sound like the ear-piece of the prophet is getting aged. (hardware matters)
2. Aging of electrical components cause unstable performance of the hardware,
3. I am afraid you need to replace the ear-piece of your prophet to dig your way out.
( or re-flash you prophet will be an alternative, to see if really a chance for software problem)
if so, feel free to flash with the tool from my signature.Error free anyway~ ^^ )
Good Luck ~~
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hello
now . what i shold to do ?
sory for English .
saeidba said:
hello
now . what i shold to do ?
sory for English .
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1. flash other rom (you may click and follow the steps @ my signature ),
2. bring your phone to repair
Strange, my other prophet (Xda Neo) has this issue, I think it is HW. I tried flashing Radio Rom, but no luck, also I changed earpiece but no luck. I will try flashing WM6, bluetooth headset works fine, very strange.
hello all...
im back again...
thanks so much for ur all suggestion and opinion
last choice for me...
ehehhe
i have send it to 3 shops to repair....
1st shop said board problem....to replaced very costly better buy new 1
2nd shop --- can repair but no spare part
3rd shop --- ic problem..after replaced the ic my prophet back to normal again...
tqq
3rd shop --- ic problem..after replaced the ic my prophet back to normal again...
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I think it is audio ic, TI TWL 3027
charlies_uno said:
hello forumer
im new here...
i need ur all suggestion
im using 818 pro for 1 year....
after warranty finish a few days
my propphet having a problem
when i make or received a call....
i can't hear anything, same with other person....
is it speaker and mic problem?
but i can play music, video and ringtones as good as new....
some person said i can try to flasing to wm6.1...
can anybody help me.....
tq.....
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There are separate speakers for hands free and earphone on xda neo (htc prophet) as i know, i had a problem with hands-free (music) speaker but i could still hear when making calls.
I don't know if this is going to help you, or you already solved it.
hey, i have a uk htc hd2, i have had it since last march 2010, all has been good, no problems(love this phone),it running standard ROM 1.72.110.4, radio 2.15.50.02_2
my earpiece speaker has stopped working(was fine yesterday, now dead) i have done a quick panic search, i wondered if there is a test code, diagnostic menu to test the speaker? if its broken, can i replace it my self?
i just want my phone working again, as when i make a call ppl can hear me i cant hear them
any advise, help would be great guys
ps my case has a strong magnet clip that when closed rests over the earpiece speaker, could that have damaged it?
I encountered the same problem - calls connected OK - people could hear me - I couldn't hear them....
Phone was returned to Jersey Telecom for repair and I've just received it back after 7 weeks ! ! !
HTC Touch Pro2 loan phone drove me nuts !
Hope you get better service
Regards
hey, quick update found a replacement earpiece on ebay, from hong kong, i know could be risky
i did find a dis-assembly video on you tube, was going to post links but i ant allowed too newbie yet lol
still tempted to fix it myself, feeling brave
i still couldnt find a text code or menu for the earpiece to test it, anyone got any ideas?
no one able to help me out, bit disappointed
no theres no audio test codes/modes.
Before you start taking it apart, you have done a soft reset and a hard reset, right? (my external stopped working today, no obvious reason, but a soft reset fixed it)
hey, thanks for your reply samsamuel
i did do a soft reset, and a hard reset, but no luck sadly
after the hard reset, recovered to an earlier spb backup i had, but still......
i thought htc would have had a test mode etc, but if they dont, then i cant test to find out definitively if the earpiece is the issue
does anyone know a good site for spares(for earpiece). i can only find ebay and a part from hong kong, not sure if it will be as good at the oem earpiece.....
hey, not sure if its any help to anyone, but i replaced my ear-piece and my phone is sorted now just though i would update my progress.....
through a dis-assembly video i found on this forum, and the ear-piece coming from hong kong(off ebay), my phone is sorted
and its not all that difficult to repair
one tip, try use a small glass sucker, to help you remove the LCD screen/digitizer
i have had this phone for nearly a month now , and nearly everybody i speak to struggles to hear me, or they say im breaking up (although i have full signal) .. if i let the phone drift even slightly away from my mouth people struggle to hear me also . and because i have to keep the phone pressed up close to the side of my face ,so that the mouth piece is always very close to my mouth, i find my cheek pressing various keys and the key tones drowning out what the other person is saying to me ! i am really not happy with this phone on many levels .. but when you struggle to use the phone to do what a telephone is basically meant to do , i think its ridiculous ! i had a galaxy s2 before this and never had any of these problems ! is it just my phone or are other people having these problems ?? :crying:
strommy1966 said:
i have had this phone for nearly a month now , and nearly everybody i speak to struggles to hear me, or they say im breaking up (although i have full signal) .. if i let the phone drift even slightly away from my mouth people struggle to hear me also . and because i have to keep the phone pressed up close to the side of my face ,so that the mouth piece is always very close to my mouth, i find my cheek pressing various keys and the key tones drowning out what the other person is saying to me ! i am really not happy with this phone on many levels .. but when you struggle to use the phone to do what a telephone is basically meant to do , i think its ridiculous ! i had a galaxy s2 before this and never had any of these problems ! is it just my phone or are other people having these problems ?? :crying:
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I'm basically having the same problem. Coming from Samsung definitely not happy. Have you figured it out? I was wondering maybe it could be software related and an update might do the job.
This is interesting. I have had the phone since early April and have had hundreds of calls both through the mouthpiece and speakerphone (work/personal phone) and have not had a single complaint. Are you on 55 or 69?
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This problem seems to be fixed on mine after disabling the noise cancelling function.
augie7107 said:
This is interesting. I have had the phone since early April and have had hundreds of calls both through the mouthpiece and speakerphone (work/personal phone) and have not had a single complaint. Are you on 55 or 69?
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im on 55 do you think flashing 69 would help this problem ? its just driving me mad .. i cant let the mouth piece drift more than about an inch away from my mouth or people say they just cant hear me or say im breaking up !
Not sure but it may be worth a try. Either thst or utilize PC companion to repair 55 and see if it helps. PC companion repair will wipe device though.
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probably software problem, try reset to factory default and update will fix bug too..
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I think it's because the noise cancellation is very aggressive. If you don't talk directly or rather, very close into the mic it cuts out all sound as others have said to me that I sound quiet on the phone too but if I have the bottom of the phone adjacent to my mouth, I end up being crystal clear, I then turned noise cancelling off and held the phone as I have any other and tested calls again and I come through loud and clear but also all background noise is picked up too.
In general terms while everybody looks different you may have to adjust the angle you hold the phone at, but for me I've found that placing my ear over the Sony logo and having the edge of the phone that is facing the ground run parallel to my jaw line, I have no issues with being heard. Holding the phone to my ear in this position too I've found to be more comfortable as my usual position is that I hold phones straight down and the top of the phone when held like this feels quite sharp and uncomfortable on the ear.
To illustrate. when holding the phone straight down, the 3 holes at the base of the phone where the mic is positioned are pointed at the neck and so wouldn't pick up speech fully. When the phone is positioned as described above, the mic is then next to the mouth and so is able to capture speech properly.
With it being a taller phone than usual it is more important to position it correctly.
I can't remember where the setting is but when you're in a call it's supposed to turn the screen off when it detects proximity to your face/object so you shouldn't be pressing keys
strommy1966 said:
i have had this phone for nearly a month now , and nearly everybody i speak to struggles to hear me, or they say im breaking up (although i have full signal) .. if i let the phone drift even slightly away from my mouth people struggle to hear me also . and because i have to keep the phone pressed up close to the side of my face ,so that the mouth piece is always very close to my mouth, i find my cheek pressing various keys and the key tones drowning out what the other person is saying to me ! i am really not happy with this phone on many levels .. but when you struggle to use the phone to do what a telephone is basically meant to do , i think its ridiculous ! i had a galaxy s2 before this and never had any of these problems ! is it just my phone or are other people having these problems ?? :crying:
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Had the same issue with a Black Z2 on Swisscom and also Upgrade to Build 17.1.1.A.0.402 did not solve it . My wife told me, she heared me like "in a hole", far away and so on. When i called her on her mobile it was a bit better (maybe because of HDVoice?) but on other phones she couldn't nearly hear me at all. Turning on or off noise cancelling and al the other settings did not changy anything noticeable.
I then contacted Xperia Lounge and they told me do try a Software Repair via PC Companion or send back the device. It seems, that the software Repair function dit it for me.
With sofware repair you automatically wipe your phone and all your data in internal storage and flash the latest firmware available. Before starting, i had an issue because on my fist PC because PC Companion searches for a specific Windows Update , if you don't have this installed it won't let you do the repair. It seems that the first PC i tried to use for software repair had a newer Update installed which replaced the one that PC Companion was seeking, so it seems that PC Companion is not completely up-do-date with the WIndows Updates.
Anyway, I tried to Install PC Companion on another PC and here it worked. Be Careful and read all the advices if you want to try. The Option for Software Repair is in PC Companion->Update Phone i believe.
After doing this it seems that the mic Issue is gone. I've done this a week ago and my wife says now that she hears me always clearly and loud.
The_Rick said:
Had the same issue with a Black Z2 on Swisscom and also Upgrade to Build 17.1.1.A.0.402 did not solve it . My wife told me, she heared me like "in a hole", far away and so on. When i called her on her mobile it was a bit better (maybe because of HDVoice?) but on other phones she couldn't nearly hear me at all. Turning on or off noise cancelling and al the other settings did not changy anything noticeable.
I then contacted Xperia Lounge and they told me do try a Software Repair via PC Companion or send back the device. It seems, that the software Repair function dit it for me.
With sofware repair you automatically wipe your phone and all your data in internal storage and flash the latest firmware available. Before starting, i had an issue because on my fist PC because PC Companion searches for a specific Windows Update , if you don't have this installed it won't let you do the repair. It seems that the first PC i tried to use for software repair had a newer Update installed which replaced the one that PC Companion was seeking, so it seems that PC Companion is not completely up-do-date with the WIndows Updates.
Anyway, I tried to Install PC Companion on another PC and here it worked. Be Careful and read all the advices if you want to try. The Option for Software Repair is in PC Companion->Update Phone i believe.
After doing this it seems that the mic Issue is gone. I've done this a week ago and my wife says now that she hears me always clearly and loud.
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thanks for this ... i will give it a go . will it wipe all the data i have on the phone ? like contacts ,pictures and such like ? So need to sort this out as its driving me mad !
strommy1966 said:
thanks for this ... i will give it a go . will it wipe all the data i have on the phone ? like contacts ,pictures and such like ? So need to sort this out as its driving me mad !
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Yes, it will wipe all the data on internal Storage (Data on external microSD won't be touched, as far as i know, but since i have no microSD i'm not 100% sure) so you have to backup your data. If you sync with Google Contacts, google Calendar etc. then you should be good for this, but if don't, if you have unsynced pictures etc. you should backup this first from your phone.
In PC Companion you have the Option to create and restore backups, in the settings you can choose which data you want to backup. Maybe you could give this a try first.