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I extracted the radio version 1.20.31.10 from the imate jasjam 1.31.305.2 rom using Asukal's method.
You can find the radio upgrade only and upgrading instructions on the Hermes Extracted Radio ROMs wiki page.
Remember:
- screen will show "Upgrade Radio Stack Please wait........."
- after finishing flashing radio you will see an "Upgrade Error", but the radio ROM will be flashed anyway
- no need to hard reset after upgrading the radio, only soft reset with stylus when upgrade ends.
- upgrade at your own risk, i take no responsiblity for anything that happens to you, your Hermes, your marriage, etc.
This sucks...I followed the directions to the letter and now I'm stuck on the windows mobile screen.
It seems that when it soft-rest, right above the D1.18 (on the bottom center on the screen) NO GSM appears for a few seconds then disappears.
i have exactly the same problem, it just sits at the windows mobile screen.
i am going to do a hard reset to see if that helps
too bad :/ I was just about to upgrade my radio rom with that.. thx for the notice.
Hard-rest doesn't help. I think the issue is NO GSM...the phone doesn't know what to do. And, not being able to activesync, I can't do anything else.
Had the same problem.
Put the device in Boottloader mode (left OK & Power & reset), and loaded Radio 1.16.
Workes !
Probably something went wrong during extracting 1.20 Radio.
oops... sorry guys, i will remove the upgrade inmediately... it worked on my hermes, will try to flash an older rom an try it again! Those who are stuck on windows mobile screen do what torklemm says: flash radio 1.16
That's what I'm trying to do now, I just hope it works.
Thanks.
EDIT: Can't seem to get it to see the phone via activesync. Unable to flash anything at this point.
I am going to give that a try now, will update with the results
Bacco said:
EDIT: Can't seem to get it to see the phone via activesync. Unable to flash anything at this point.
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You do not need activesync, disable activesync usb connections, put the device in bootloader mode and start the flash utility (ma_upgrade_noid) from 1.16 radio upgrade.
pof said:
You do not need activesync, disable activesync usb connections, put the device in bootloader mode and start the flash utility (ma_upgrade_noid) from 1.16 radio upgrade.
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Tried that pof, all is get is "checking the info on your device and don't disconnect, etc" and nothing more. A few minutes later it shows the screen detailing the PPC radio and ROM versions and the radio version that I'm trying to install, but everything is blank. I say yes anyway and it just sits on the "checking the info on your device and don't disconnect, etc" screen forever.
That's why I thought something wasn't right w/o activesync. I'll try again.
EDIT, again: I'm now trying the Cingular 1.13 radio...that seems to be installing. Pray for me guys
EDIT 2: Yeah, I get the same error as you shark1
I get an error stating this utility is not design for this device please get the correct update utility
i have the same problem On boot i see "NO GSM". Now my tytn doesn't boot and also when i try to reload 1.16 radio it stucks... I'll try with 1.13...
1.13 don't go it say it's not designed for my device... o__O
now i'll try 1.11 same problem...
I'm uploading a "hopefully" fixed version on ftp (again, it worked on my hermes from 1.16 to 1.20), do not download it yet until I finish uploading... (17% now) i will edit this post and let you know when it is finished.
EDIT: Upload finished!
POF: OK i will wait, hopefully that will work, at present I will try 1.11 as others are trying 1.13
I get the same update error with 1.11
I have try to find my old phone, so I can make calls
Ok, now I'm totally confused. In bootloader, I don't see USB on the bottom anylonger. if I unplug my USB cable, I see serial...but I can't seem to do anything to get USB recognized again.
Why did I do this???
EDIT: Rebooted everything!
Hi all,
got the same problem. Phone in bootloader and can't go back to 1.16 or lower..... hope the new 1.20 will work
rmaat said:
Hi all,
got the same problem. Phone in bootloader and can't go back to 1.16 or lower..... hope the new 1.20 will work
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i hope to... or i think that our only way is c.a.
pof said:
I'm uploading a "hopefully" fixed version on ftp (again, it worked on my hermes from 1.16 to 1.20), do not download it yet until I finish uploading... (17% now) i will edit this post and let you know when it is finished.
EDIT: Upload finished!
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pof, please clear the not yet
also this radio have the same problem; not designed for this device... and now?
I recently asked for help on bootloader 1.09.my tytn was bricked while upgrading..well today I downloaded the file dowgrade_spl.rar or something like that.
I ran the upgrade but it stopped and it said error..read documents or recovery I clicked recovery it told me take out the usb cord then take out the battery for 3 seconds then put it back in..I did..then I did a soft reset..tytn screen came back up as if I did a hard reset..everything came back ext rom etc..but it had no radio ver.no protocol ver..and no imei #..and its still at bootloader 1.09..can anyone help
can you still activesync? if so, just try to run the downgrader to 1.04 again and then flash a new rom to restore everything.
it tried the dowgrader but the problem is I'm at bootloader 1.09..can I downgrade from that..I'm using the tytn original rom but it still say bl 1.09
the point of the downgrader is to downgrade from 1.09 to 1.04. you have to complete the downgrade before you attempt anything else
the dowgrade_spl.rar doesn't finish it got back my tytn but it doesn't downgrade the bl.I get the same error over and over..do you of any other programs
Sorry about this, I know the info is out there but I can't find it.
Can someone let me know the shortcut keys to discover my Bootloader and Radio version.
ta
bb
(in the wiki dude )
press and hold the side ok and power buttons, then do a reset with the stylus using the rest button on the bottom of the unit (next to the usb port)
oooo...apols...thanks for the quick response though....
HERM300
IPL-1.00
HERM300
SPL-1.30.Olipro
I've done a fair bit of flashing lately (and just unlocked with POFs utility) and ended up with the above, trying to figure out if I have latest / safest versions.
Pro Black 2.0
Radio is at....1.16.00.00
Especially wondering if I should reflash radio after using POFs unlocker I think I may have downgraded the radio..all seems to work though.
Am going to check out the wiki...ta
Yes the radio is the hacked radio rom pof uses to unlock with.
If you are planning on using Black 2.0 please follow my guide as it will take you through updating hardspl and radios before the WM6 flash.
oh no, you got it wrong...it's black 2.0 NOW. Working well very happy.
It's just I did the unlocking with POFs after I installed black and I suspect I might have an older radio version now, am I safe to just bring my radio up? The phone is now unlocked for good i imagine, maybe I should just wait for the next black release.
Upgrade your HardSPL FIRST. Then Upgrade your radio
ok, ta...will do.
what version is my hardspl now...1.00 or 1.30 ?
something must have downgraded it
It might have been downgraded by the unlocker.......but follow the guides they will take you through everything.
worked a treat thanks...Radio up to latest version now. ta.
You updated HardSPL aswell i hope? (so you now have version 1.40.olipro)
This is the first time I'm trying to upgrade... I sync and tried upgrading to HardSPL v6 using the RUUWrapper.exe but the 3 options SPL-1.01 to SPL-1.11/1.13/1.30/1.35 are all greyed. I can only click on Force Using SSPL and Is it Hard-SPL.
I'm using X01HT.
HERM200 IPL-1.01
HERM200 SPL-1.04
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
Hi all,
First of all I want to let you know that I did search the forum for a solution. In fact, I found a lot of workarounds but none of them actually worked.
Let me give some details about my problem: My Hermes was working fine. I was running the official WM6 ROM supplied by HTC, so no customized ROM here.
It was going fine until the WM frozed. Then I soft reset the device and after that I never got cellular signal again.
While booting the device I got the message: "no GSM".
First thing I tried was to flash a new radio ROM. In all the attempts the progress bar never moved from 0% and after a while I got the communication problem error.
Then I tried flashing a whole ROM. This time the progress bar stopped at 81%. Apparently in the first 81% it flashes the OS and in the last 19% it writes the radio. Anyway, I tried this a few times and never finished.
In fact, after every communication error message I got stuck in the bootloader screen.
The only thing that works is to flash a ROM WITHOUT the radio!!
Is there anything I can do to save my phone or am I condemned to use my Hermes as a phone-less pda?
I tried everything I found in the wiki/forums, but I couldn't find a working solution.
I suspect that the blocks of memory where the radio data reside got corrupted, could that be possible?
PLEASE HELP!
thanks in advance!
Chris
A similar thing happen to me several months ago. While on a call my phone froze and when I soft-reset it the dreaded 'No GSM' issue appeared. I tried flashing radios/full roms/etc, but nothing worked. I ended up sending my phone to the htc repair facility and they fixed it at no cost. (Other than not having a phone for ~10 days)
Thanks dang, but I don't have a HTC service center where I live (Argentina, LATAM)
I'm faithful that the people of this wonderful community will be able to help me.
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
cheers
sounds like a hardware problem to me...
Hi, there! I found that a lot of us who have bricked our Hermes, don't have a responsive radio bootloader, so when they try to flash a full rom, the progress bar hangs to 13%, or 81%. This is because at that time the flasher is trying to enter the radio bootloader, but because it's corrupted, it hangs. Till today there is no known solution to this one. I'm far away from England where I bought my Hermes, so I'm not thinking to send it back for repair. I'm a programmer, so my knowledge may be usefull here. The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
How can I try that?
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The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
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You can use 'lnb' in HardSPL without having a real SuperCID; however you will not be able to flash a radio with 'lnb' command. The radio chipset has its own bootloader, the and the SPL just acts as a pass-through sending the data directly to radio chipset through the s2410 UART.
I had one device with non-responsive htc_boot and tried all kinds of SPL patches to flash htc_boot again on radio, without success. The only known method to fix this is to take the BGA chip out with hot air and reflash it with special hardware, as it is not common to have this equipment at home, your only option is to send it somewhere to do it for you.
However, I don't want to discourage you to research on it, maybe you find something i didn't
I have a similar problem
I also have a NO GSM and corrupted CID but I can access KITL and use it with PB 5.0. and I followed this steps here but the phone doesnt boot completely. It stops just after the two boot screens on Black WM6 ending on a white screen and the debug window on PB after loading all sort of things begin showing these lines over and over:
@@@@@@ HUB state changes now @@@@@@
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN TRUE
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN FALSE
Is there any hope for me? I have the cingular 8525
thanks
Gents, do you think the solution presented in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280425 could help me?
Please advise.
thanks again
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Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
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I sent it to the HTC service center in Texas, US.
I just got my replacement from ATT.. Had the same problem. Its a hardware problem.. I wouldnt waste anymore of your time.
first, i'm sorry for my english
I've the same problem with a V1605 (french SFR), i've tried every solution but flash radio doesn't work.
I can flash cooked os without any problem, but it's impossible to put official
It's only a pda now, it's better than a brick
My hernes use to be the same as you 'NoGSM'.I tried to install the official rom,but it 's not work at all.I called to service center ask this problem,so they said that it must be only changed the mainboard. That 's terrible!!!
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
otoro_315 said:
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
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That only works with phones with KITL...which I don't seem to have.
Sorry, how to config the phone with KITL and solve the no gsm problem.
No GSM but when sim inserted
Hi all, First sorry for my bad english.
I also have 2 bricked Tytn Hermes 200. Its not my personal ones Its my company's property, which pple were using this phones. So i'm facin with problem which many pple here having but with exception. both phones having no gsm error when sim inserted but without sim its fine. In other words , device info showing every info including IMEI when sim unavailable. And some times works with sim but after making few call and receiving phone hangs(not system) and goes off from network but anthena signal still showing few bars. I'm thinking maybe the radio hangs totally and goes off, and after soft restart NO GSM. I also tried many flashing upgrading those things nothing can really help me.
When im flashing original rom from HTC (the latest one HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108) its hanging on 12% and doing 3 or 4 times recovery , but its finishes succesfully. So what exactly happening in 12th%?. Maybe its started flashing radio and stopped on bad block ? But then why its finishes succesfully after few retry?. Ok so if any one wants to experiments on the phones except radio welcome. I'll help. And some can give me quick example of how to check bad blocks?.
Tnx.
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
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@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
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My device is still SuperCID and I know I don't have KITL...I have SPL 1.04 as well and HTC Bootloader is 0108. I can't install any ROMs with radios as they will hang at 11/12%. I will attempt this "overload" method where it seems some people have had luck with it...after a few recoveries it just finally installs...but I don't think that will be the case.
If I can't fix this in a few days, I will most likely use my warranty or just wait for the Kaiser.
My variation of No GSM
I feel like I have problem 1A...where I am able to boot into OS but no GSM.
I am still SuperCID, SPL 1.04, HTC Bootloader 0108. Last known radio before corruption was 1.48.00.00. ROM where this problem occured: VP3G 3.60.1.
I was not even in the middle of an upgrade...just a soft reset after my phone ALREADY lost GSM capabilities during a tether session. It was stuck with no signal in Phone Mode...I put it in Flight Mode...then tried to move it back to Phone Mode and it wouldn't do so. I soft reset...and the no GSM stuck.
I tried to reinstall radio...many errors...stuck on bootloader. At first, OS's only were not installing as well but I got past that. Now I am able to boot into OS's with limited capabilities...and they will NOT ACTIVESYNC at all. Regardless of how old or new the ROM is. I tried older OS's that I knew worked in the past for me...but they refused to activesync.
Due to that, I am not able to install latest HardSPL 2.10Oli via SSPL. That seems to be the only way to do it according to my knowledge and what I've read. Maybe mtty was capable but I'm not sure. HardSPL 1.40Oli wasn't giving me any problems though, but I just wanted to have the latest one so I can avoid IPL damage.
I can only install anything if I start the device in bootloader...and I'm only limited to the OS since my Radio Bootloader seems corrupted.
I'm not sure what caused the corruption in the first place...but I feel annoying now posting on different parts of the forum with a problem that seems to be growing in the community.
Hi,
i must sent my hermes to repairs. so i have to restore it to wm5 and old bootloader.
i have some problems with the gsm module. sometimes i get "no gsm" in the bootscreen and after boot no phone functions. Some time i the radio shows up in boot and i get phone functions. the problem did not appear after a flash. the last flash a month ago.
it seems that the hardware that there is a loose connection. when i make a test call and knock the phone (softly) the phone connection is lost. the "end call" button does nothing and after a while the whole os freezes.
has someone another idea than faulty hardware?
OS is restored to original with the help of mrvranx guide.
whats left is the bootloader and the shipped radio rom.
Bootloader screen shows:
Herm 300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10Olipro
Radio Rom is 1.47.30.10
Im a little concerned about mrvranx warning: "If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error"
but on the next page is a guide to flash the bootloader back step by step to the original. is this method save? and does anybody know which one was the shipped one (t-mobile germany).
last the radio. i can't remember which was the shipped version.
and can i flash whithout problems back to the original? somewhere i read about problems because of the bootloader.
and the last question
in what order must i do this. first radio then the bootloader is right?
many thanks in advance.
washi
just today I had to get my old TYTN ready for warranty/repair.
I followed mrvranx's guide to downgrade my bootloader and it worked flawlessly. I did it all from an XP computer as I was having issue on my Vista machine. Follow it to a T and you should not encounter trouble.
As for the order, I don't think it matters. I did my radio last if you just wanna follow my lead.
As for determining the radio and boot loader version - I'm with Rogers in Canada, they send me my replacement device before I send them the faulty one. I just go into bootloader mode (power on the right side+ok on the left side+reset button at the bottom) and verify the version.
just checked my radio bootloader version. its 108.
so i wont be able to flash a radio < 1.3x?
which is unfortunate because the t-mobile germany never actually offered an official update :/
i just hope the handy will pass with the old os and old bootloader but newer radio.
Is this really needed?
I have to send my phone in as well and didn't know if it was really necessary to do all the downgrading and stuff? i guess can't hurt to be safe though huh
Hey Guys,
I am in the same boat as you all, I am with Rogers and unfortunately MRVANX guide is not online at present, can any one help. Also if you can tell me if it is at all possible, my IPL is 1.04, SPL is 2.10.OLIPRO and Radio version is 1.54.07.00 I am using FARIA.32 ROM
please help.
Thanks
Himanshu