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Have the opportunity to share my htc touch pro 2 with a toshiba tg01.
I have heard the battery performance is poor, and is the most important thing is a long music playback..
So, how long can the toshiba?
2 days if very light use, 1 day or less if your making a lot of calls and using wireless etc, there are 3rd party batteries by Mugen that can extend battery life massively
Should you buy a TG01? As a owner of a Tg01, and having just paid to get it unlocked, i think you are better off looking elsewhere, this is because Toshiba offer terrible customer support, zero useful software updates for their products, zero fixes for known issues, terrible battery life, and the fact there are better, albeit more expensive options, like say, the HTC HD2
As a TP2 and TG01 owner I tend to agree.
The TG01 has a beautiful screen and is super-fast, but it has too many flaws to recommend. Poor battery life and terrible in-call quality being the main ones.
Loconinja said:
As a TP2 and TG01 owner I tend to agree.
The TG01 has a beautiful screen and is super-fast, but it has too many flaws to recommend. Poor battery life and terrible in-call quality being the main ones.
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for battery life , i expected much worse tbh ... my tg01 holds out only about 10-20% less than my xperia x1* i had despite the double screen and cpu witch really gets stuff done faster so u can put da fone to rest earlier
(*x1 has 1500mah battery , also got a 1800mah cuz it wasnt enuff)
but would i recommend it generally , no i wouldnt , and i wouldnt recommend any winmo phones to anyone unless they already had one in the past and know what kind of bug fest theyre looking into
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i wouldnt recommend any winmo phones to anyone unless they already had one in the past and know what kind of bug fest theyre looking into
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Well said
Agree no more Toshiba..
Try anything else without TG01: you have Iphone, Htc and a lot of support for them.
But let us not forget the price peoples!
It seems that I'm the only person that would recommend buying the TG01.
In my opinion, you get a good phone for the money you pay (should be around 200 till 250 Euro max.).
You get a phone with a big screen and a good touchscreen (yes I think it's sensitive enough). You get Wi-Fi and GPS.
What more do you want to a price that is that low at the moment?
And if cedesmith suceeds with the project TG01 going to WM6.5.3 then the TG01 will even have less bugs.
In my opinion it's worth a try.
Maybe the battery is a little bit to weak, but for me that's not a problem. The battery remains two days for me...again...enough for me
I only hope, that our TG01 community gets bigger. The phone is worth it.
If you get a good offer, you should buy it I think.
Best regards,
DunkDream
Nikwalter said:
Have the opportunity to share my htc touch pro 2 with a toshiba tg01.
I have heard the battery performance is poor, and is the most important thing is a long music playback..
So, how long can the toshiba?
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Personally, I would highly recommend the TG01 for the use you appear to be wanting. It has excellent audio performance and with a Mugen 1.1 AH battery will happily last a full day commuting including maybe 3-4 hours use as a music player.
There is a discussion on MoDaCo about the audio side of things here which may be of interest.
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Personally, I would highly recommend the TG01 for the use you appear to be wanting. It has excellent audio performance and with a Mugen 1.1 AH battery will happily last a full day commuting including maybe 3-4 hours use as a music player.
There is a discussion on MoDaCo about the audio side of things here which may be of interest.
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After 9 months with it, this device exceeds my expectations. I'm a smartphone user since 2005, (My first one was a primitive Palm Treo 270 and some Windows devices after it) and this is the best device never tested. But you must understand that a Windows device is not easy to manage.(and they never will be if Mr. Gates boys doesn't change it....)
It's true that the TG01 hasstill some unsolved problems, as most of new devices in their first age. It's also true that Toshiba is absolutelly useless in giving support to the TG01
Pros:
-Thickness
-Great screen
-Best device for the money that you pay
-The best Video player never seen . You can play mostly everything on it and with the best benchmark values in the market.
-Great Sound Quality. With SRS Wow it's a dream.
-Host USB!!!!!! You can use USB keyboards, game pads, mouse, bar code, hdu, pen drive, .... Remind: HTC can't do it!!
Cons:
(Design)
-Too small battery
-No separated headphones connector
-You can't charge it and connect USB at the same time
-Stupid SD position. You must disconnect the battery to change it
-No TV Out
(Software)
-Call quality (sometimes)
-Sometimes freezes a bit (as other WM devices)
-Stupid Toshiba's limitations when talking, when battery it's under 20%...
-Still no software for movement sensor
I think that if you have a good opportunity, you must take advantage of it. And if at the end you don't like it, you can always sell it on Ebay for instance.
I wonder if these lines will be useful for you . Tell us about your last decision!
Cheers
wait for tgo2 ot ko1
Hey thanx.. I get the message that the xperia x10 is aviable in 2 weeks..
TG01 or TP2
Talking from Experience, TP2 is the better phone, my cousin owns the TP2 which I have played around with a lot and I own a TG01.
TP2 is an all in one complete solution.
TG01 is very nice, but HTC Touch Sense Pro is just too good. And unless you know much about Manila, I wouldn't look at a TG01.
I used to have WM phones before (x220, SE X1), so let's say I know the basics. After a year of struggle with Android (Desire, SE X10), I'm back to where I feel at home; WM. But this time with a brand new HD2 (German T-mobile had them on stock at a very nice price). I already flashed a custom rom (Basic Energy 29.... C2.0) without any problems. I like the speed and the looks, but I am disappointed with battery life. So now I'm at trying tweaks. And here I feel a bit stuck. Apparently I forgot things.
So here are the questions;
What is the expected average battery life on HD2 on idle with all wireless connections, except GSM, turned off, and with all auto update things turned off also? (it is understandable that there is no fix value here. I'd like to hear few thoughts and experiences on this)
Is there a custom ROM that is generally known as a battery saver?
Is there some kind of a (virtual) map to show which radio is best for which region? (Croatia for instance)
Is there a specific radio which is gentle on the battery?
Is there an application to show what is (Cell, Display, Wi-Fi, CPU...) draining the battery in % like "Battery Use" on Android?
Is there an application like CPU Spy on Android?
In the tweaks, somebody mentioned the term "find battery saving wallpaper". What is this? I couldn't find it anywhere on the forum.
Is there a CPU managment application to manage (downclock) the CPU manualyl or automatically?
Is there an application similar to the Gesture search in Android (the only besides the implemented Battery Use and CPU Spy, that I miss form the Android)?
Is there a custom camera with less artificial noise reduction (I find it to be way too excessive)?
Is there a way to fit excellent X1 in ear earphones properly on the HD2. THe stoch HD2 heaphones are awful like on Desire too, and I still have those X1 earphones. The porblem is, the sound is skewed if I don't hold the answer button constantly pressed on the earphone's handsfree, so I used some tape and fixed it. However this way, I cannot use the handsfree. Can this somehow be adjusted?
Why do some part of the UI and some parts of apps look like they are scaled up to WVGA? This wasn't so on SE X1.
These are only the questions from the 36hours of use, so there could be more.
I did try to search and read about it before asking, but I couldn't find answers so fast, as the HD2 threads are really massive.
Thank you!
1... a day, day N a half.
2 ...not to my knowledge
3 ... no, what works for one wont necessarily work for the next.
4... not really, the latest supposedly has better power management, but I've not seen any evidence of that, PLUS the reception / stability is shocking on that radio, at least for me. Ask ten people you will get 8 different answers.
can you comment already ?
Actually, after 8.8.3.33 (not just ICS), I've noticed battery life to be excellent on standby, but less in actual use. I seem to run between 10%-15%/hour use when doing normal things (browsing, RSS reading, etc.).
I've been using some apps to look for the culprit, and all I've found so far is that the Prime seems to spend more time at 1200MHz and less time at lower speeds. I seem to remember more of a distribution of speeds prior to .33. I wonder if they didn't make the Tegra 3's mode changing less aggressive or something in the later builds.
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I wonder if they didn't make the Tegra 3's mode changing less aggressive or something in the later builds.
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another thing to take care of in custom rom I think, Devs
I think that ASUS and Nvidia will be making these adjustments for awhile. This is very new tech, and as they tweak one thing, another thing gets worse. I'm pretty confident that after a few more revisions they'll find a good balance between performance and battery life.
I remember some people complaining that there was a noticeable hitch as the Tegra 3 switch power states, and so maybe an adjustment was made to reduce the number of switches. Probably they just need to give some more weight to lower-power states.
I also notice that in ICS (didn't test it in .33), Power saver mode doesn't seem to have much of an impact. I need to run some longer tests, but certainly I can't notice any performance difference. So, that lends credence to the theory (at least to me, with the limited info I have) that the power settings are a little funky at the moment.
Hi
I am Nexus 4 user - great phone with lot of great ROMs available here, great performance and good size - but battery is no longer big enough to match my needs. So I am looking for a new phone and ran into Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro.
There is a lot of positive comments about this device, but also quite a lot of drawbacks - no 800MHZ band, problems with microphone/speaker, some battery performance issues... So, is there any better choice in that kind of money? I am looking for something with big battery to be able to do something more than 2-2,5h of WEB vieweing... I am not playing games, apps that I am using are not really demanding ones. My other thought is Asus Zenfone Max - but Redmi Note 3 PRO looks much better while comparing some statistics.
So, any other thoughts? I would be grateful for all responses and advices
If you need 800mhz try: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/-HK-...OTG-Fast-Charge-Gyroscope---Black-367828.html
I have no issues with battery or speaker. 800mhz isn't the end of the world unless you 100% need it
If you can live without 800mhz and bad low light camera, nothing can beat this device value. Battery and performance is among the best you can get today.
I never have those mic/speaker/battery/performance issues.
Hello, I received my RN3 Pro yesterday and I have to say it's freakin amazing. A definite upgrade from Nexus 4(I came from a Moto G2, and before that Nexus 4). I charged it to 100% yesterday and it gave me 7.5hrs SOT till 1pm today, which is frankly mind blowing for two reasons,
1) More than 4hrs SOT ftw
2) I played around 1hr of Pokemon go ( continuously uses 3G and GPS) and still managed 7hrs sot.
So yes, you'll easily get >3hrs of web viewing. The one issue I found however is that the phone makes a hissing sound when connected to AUX cable, many people have this problem and are saying it's software related, so maybe there will be a fix. Secondly on very low volume with earphones,(step 1-3) you can hear a noticeable hissing sound which I'm pretty sure is software related, but it's not a deal breaker. The drawback of the Asus I feel is that there's no rom support, not as good specs as the RN3. RN3 has a snapdragon 650 which is basically an improved version of last year's flagship SoC. Also, build quality is amazing on the RN3. MIUI is a great feature packed rom!
So basically I definitely recommend the RN3, the battery life is going to definitely make you very happy ��
Yes definitely,its a beast and even I came from mako to this phone .I've to say I'm amazed by its battery and performance.really so fast the custom ROM development is awesome for this phone.. definitely a good choice to buy this phone for such a low cost..!
Thank You very much for all answers
Yeah, I think I can live without 800mhz, for taking good photos in every occasion I have other more specialized devices
I just ordered 2/16 version
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
jd.21 said:
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
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thank you for your detailed info about the phone. just am looking for a phone with good dispaly, good speed for daily activities, especially less heat(really i burnt my hands after using v10), bluetooth, i use it very rarely so it's not a problem for me.
if the bootloader is unlockable then it's a boon for custom recovery and rooting(i requested lg so many times to unlock the bootloader of my v10 varaint but they never listened to me - dumbass).
my main usage are calls via VoLTE, data and wifi connectivity and some social media apps.
numbnutsuk said:
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
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good that you have nice experience with lg. but for me not like you i don't like their policy. it's worst than (cr)appple policy. lg promised that v10 will receive every month security update but, after nougat update till now not even single update was released. unlocking bootloader and rooting is a mirage. my v10 is already suffering from screen retention, overheat and lagging issues. i don't know when my v10 going to face the infamous bootloop issue. fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
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i seen many positive reviews like yours so only i cornered this mate 10(non-pro).
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These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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nice, you got a excellent condition open box mate 10. hope you enjoying much with it. yes, nothing is perfect me also missing the removeable battery.
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
4. No heat issue at all.
5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
EDIT: grammar
Of course it does
dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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How much did you pay for yours open box ? I walked out spending 344$ after taxes open box.
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If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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oh yes, because of amoled screen the battery life is better i think. if pro version has the sd card support and 3.5mm jack then def. i will buy it without any second thought. not only me most of the flagship lovers do it.
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
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yes, amoled is brighter and sunlight visibility is good. but, the pro misses my most wanted features
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2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
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if it's last for atleast one full day with moderate use then it's enough for me.
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3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
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in my lg v10 i love to listen hi-res audio with the help of dedicated hifi dac. after receiving mate 10 i have to test both phone's audio output. bluetooth? i use it very very rarely. yearly once or two, i don't know when i used bluetooth last time in my v10.
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4. No heat issue at all.
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most expected thing. after using v10 for long now waiting to have a device with less heat. i think, kirin is better than sd in terms of long use and thermal management.
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5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
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mostly i won't do flashing but for rooting and custom recovery unlocking bootloader is required. i am afraid if i install any custom roms some unique features of stock rom won't available so better i stick with stock anytime.
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6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
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mate 10 supports mostly all the frequencies i think so data connectivity and volte support won't be a problem. good to know that this mate 10 supports dual 4g and volte at the same time. great feature.