Okay,
So the new version of Bluetooth Tools has handsfree profiles support now as well as headset profiles.
Does this mean that the XDAII can now be used with any bluetooth carkit?
In theory, but I've not been able to get my M1000 working with the latest Nokia handsfree unit.
Waht version of BT are we talking about? I tried a version a couple of weeks ago, but it cannot hanlde a parrot handsfree kit and a plantronicsx headset at the same time. So I de-installed BT.
Hi Mates,
I don't understand anything anymore. I downloaded the 1.0.1.2 version of Bluetooth tools on the following website, http://www.angeltowns.com, but it simply does'nt work with my Nokia carkit Cark112. There is something about it cause I don't even get the "icon screen" while connecting with the car kit but I get it, this bloody icon screen I mean, while connecting with a Nokia 6310i phone.
Do I do something wrong?? Could someone help??
Thanks and greetings to everyone
Chris
XDA02
Hi Mates,
I don't understand anything anymore. I downloaded the 1.0.1.2 version of Bluetooth tools on the following website, http://www.angeltowns.com, but it simply does'nt work with my Nokia carkit Cark112. There is something about it cause I don't even get the "icon screen" while connecting with the car kit but I get it, this bloody icon screen I mean, while connecting with a Nokia 6310i phone.
Do I do something wrong?? Could someone help??
Thanks and greetings to everyone
Chris
XDA02
Related
Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
paperuccio said:
Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.
Had the same issue with the Parrot. My Plantronics headset works a treat, but not the Parrot.
I mailed the author who confirmed there are some problems and a new release will be needed.
As the author is doing this work unpaid and the functionality is so good, I can wait.
@ mrg2003
I send an e-mail some days ago but still had no response.
Anyway, I agree with IanF and I'll wait for the new release.
I wish I read this bulletin board more often.
Yes, I have exactly the same problem with the CK3000 (v3.13) and PBT. HBH-35 works a treat but CK3000 does not bond (XDA thinks it does but there is no handshaking and CK3000 repeats request to bond).
Back to basics again ...
Incidentally, does anyone know if Tobias plans to engineer a way to trigger Voice Command and take input from the car microphone for voice recognition? Would be the dogs and well worth a major donation ....
Cheers
I've had some problems with pocket bluetooth. I have emailed tobias as follows and am awaiting a reply. Was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems:
Tobias,
Thanks for all the hard work in getting these tools working. I have just bought an XDAII with the latest 1.60.00 ROM using the 1.10.00 radio version.
At the same time, I have a WIDCOMM bluetooth dongle on my PC which supports numerous profiles including the headset profile, which allows me to use the PC's speakers and mic as a 'headset' with the XDAII.
I set up the XDAII with the PC, using the built-in bluetooth bonding and pairing application and managed to get it all working fine with the PC using the speakers and the mic as the headset, with the phone automatically transferring the call to the PC when the 'Bluetooth Headset mode is enabled' shows on the today screen. Furthermore, activesync also seems to work fine too.
After installing Pocket Bluetooth Tools, the headset stops working. Before installing it, I unpaired the device by deleting it from the list of paired devices. After installation and going through the process of pairing the device again, it correctly gives me the option to choose the Serial Port, ActiveSync, Modem, and Headset profile. I select all of these and click on OK. Once this happens, my PC gives me a message saying that the XDAII has connected with the headset. However, this doesn’t happen once but goes into a continuous loop giving me notifications every 2-3 seconds that this is the case. Furthermore, when making a call to see if the voice has been transferred to the PC< this stops working and the XDAII's speaker and mic continue to be used. The only way to stop the constant loop of connections is to switch off the bluetooth radio on the XDAII. Furthermore, when deleting the pairing from the XDAII this constant loop continues.
Have you faced this issue previously, as I think it may be a bug. The only reason I installed pocket Bluetooth is that my current b.tooth headset is a Nokia HDW-30 that supports the handsfree profile and your documentation states that Pocket Bluetooth tools supports this profile.
Let me know if there is a fix for this.
pap[/quote]
Why not email the author, he is most helpful.[/quote]
maybe just because he doesn't answer
i wrote a very long report some days after the long awaited new version came out in april, but haven't got any reply. (maybe my email got lost - who knows ...)
i have exactly the same problems. i also have a parrot ck3000 (tried with firmware 3.11 and 3.13) and an mda2 with rom 1.6.00GER and extROM 1.60.07. the two devices pair, and sometime i can even select the "headphone profile" afterwards. i even managed to make it work ONCE, after several hours, of installing, reinstalling, pairing, reparing, ect, ect ...
what did work once was making calls. but after the first call came in, i could answer it, the caller could hear me, but i couldn't hear anything. this happened twice and then i just turned off bt and used the mobile as always.
as i'm using my mda in my car for work and not for fun this is no solution for me . i went back to the original bt stack that works quite well. i can make and take calls w/o any problems.
one thing i'd like to see changed (as soon as parrot and mda work together) is, that ALL calls are made via the handsfree, as, as long i'm in the car it HAVE TO use the handsfree by law (and it's much more comfortable anyway). it's not practicle to dial with the mobile, and then by pressing the green button on the parrot to move the call to the handsfree. but that's the only way you can do it when using speeddial.
another thing i desperately miss is a way to change the volume of the handsfree. i could do this using the volume slider of my nokia 6310, but volume stays all the same when using the mda. and it's just too low when doing higher speeds on the autobahn
of course voice dialing would be a great feature to have ... but it's not that necessary.
please don't get me wrong .. i'm don't want to be ungrateful as i'm not paying for this software - i just want to help ppl by saying that they are not alone with their problem and they should give up wasting their time and better wait for a new release....
and of course i'm very willing to PAY for that software as well as soon as it is any improvement over the original bt stack (for me of course. for most of you it already is)
maybe TOWA could say some words here. that would be really appreciated.
thanks anyway a lot to all ppl that spend their free time developing software and providing it to the comunity!!! thumbs up !
regards ize|man
Bluetooth tools and ROM 1.72
Does ROM version 1.72 require TOWA's bluetooth tools? In this ROM, there are options for COM port selection etc under Bluetooth settings and the clubimate site mentions bluetooth improvements. Anyone with this info?
other com settings then
Inbound COM port com4
outbound COM port com5
??
if so what are they?
Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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These are the ports for BT beaming, as I understand! (not for BT GPS).
For BT GPS you do not specifically need BTHTools anymore (since 1.66) because WM can install a BT GPS com at first bonding.
Something is different however (vs BTHTools) since with 1 application (Alturion) I can not get the BT GPS working anymore, which can also not be solved by still installing BTHTools!! (while I have no problems with my other application TT. Figure that out?!)
Ronald
I now have the same problem, the parrot ck3000 was working until I insatlle dthe bluetooth tools, and now it doesn't.
Its a shame I did not see this thread before
Will the 1.72 rom work with both parrot and my emtac bluetooth gps?
Cheers
Justinp
justinp
have you tried uninstalling Bluetoothtools?
no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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I think it will still work!
With my working application (TT3) I see the GPS on COM5 (installed by WM) + on COM7 (installed by BTHTools) + on the BT/SIRF interface!
If I uninstall BTHTools I only loose the selection for COM7. The other two selections still work!
Of course you must have acknowledged the WM com installation with first bonding (in any case for the serial operation)! My BT/SIRF connection always works in TT3 regardless of WM/BTHTools installation of serial ports.
Ronald
I'm also having that strange problem with the parrot CK3000. I did install the previous version of BT but I don't see any difference with or without BT. But when I de-install and want to go back to the original state, the same problem persist. Is there any way to download anyware the original Bluetooth stack without re-install everything (and loosing all my settings and software)?
Thanks for helping out.
Frank.
I need some help and I'm not technical... when using my XDAII with only a Jabra FreeSpeak BT250 I had no problems at all. Recently I had my car dealer install a bluetooth hands free system (Parrot CK3000 - www.bluedrive.com) in my car and when I pair with my XDAII the headset connection is lost with the Jabra becuase there is no handsfree option on the XDAII. As I understand it, I must have a headset profile for the Jabra and a handsfree profile for the CK3000. Is it possible to have two profiles on my XDAII for two types of connections? If so, how? If not, does anyone know how I could have two headset profiles that I could easilly switch between based on the pairing device I want to use? Please help...
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Charles said:
Is it possible to have two profiles on my XDAII for two types of connections? If so, how? If not, does anyone know how I could have two headset profiles that I could easilly switch between based on the pairing device I want to use? Please help...
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Well, the XDA II comes with Microsoft's Bluetooth stack, and that stack just does not implement the Handsfree Profile. Some people have, with some degree of success, installed a Widcomm Bluetooth stack on an XDA II. However, as the Widcomm stack was never officially ported to the XDA II, it cannot completely replace the Microsoft stack, so that solution has a few quirks (having two stacks, and switching betrween them for different applications). If you want to try that, just search for "Widcomm". Be advised, however, that the Widcomm stack is not freeware, and is not sold separately. So, all version you find are pirated.
Then there are the Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de). I think they would allow you to have more than one Bluetooth headset paired with your XAD II, but unfortunately at least the version 1.1.0 does not work with your Parrot. I know that for sure, because I have a Parrot CK-3000 myself (firmware 3.13), and no matter what I tried, it didn't work.
And this is where your options end... no luck, I am afraid.
Cheers
Daniel
Two BT Stacks...what are the potential problems
Thanks for the initial support...very helpful!
If I install the Widcomm Bluetooth software what functions will not be supported/available. I currently have he Jabra FreeSpeak BT250 and the Parrot CK-3000 I would like to pair but also have a BT Sony Vaio Laptop PCG-Z1WAMP3 that I will pair over the next few days and plans to purchase a BT GPS unit in a week that works on the XDAII and the Laptop. Will Widcomm software support all my needs or will it fall short.
PS - before reading your post I tried Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de) version 1.1.0 and I could not pair the two either. I was initially happy and finally maddened! Should this be removed before adding Widcomm if I do elect to proceed?
Cances of getting anything to work with your sony vaio (other than other sony kit) are slim, sony use their own peculiar bluetooth stack and it doesn't support any but the most basic profiles on any other stack. If I try to search services on my sony c1-mhp from my xda 2 with either widcomm stack or microsoft stack all i get is a load of serial ports.
I did see a thread a while ago about using the widcomm stack on a vaio, but can't remember where.
Re: Two BT Stacks...what are the potential problems
Charles said:
Will Widcomm software support all my needs or will it fall short.
PS - before reading your post I tried Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de) version 1.1.0 and I could not pair the two either. I was initially happy and finally maddened! Should this be removed before adding Widcomm if I do elect to proceed?
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Well, it'll be hard enough to get two stacks together working on one hardware, so I don't think it'll be a good idea to add a third player (the Bluetooth Tools) to the game.
I had the Widcomm installed only very briefly. Some time after that, more elaborate instructions on how to install and set up the beast occured on this forum, so your best bet is to search the forum for "Widcomm" and read everything you find. Be warned - it still is a big hack that involves manually adjusting Registry entries and such things.
Cheers
Daniel
I just got my XDA II and loving it. This is my first post here, I've been looking for a great XDA site and now I found one.
First question is, how do you guys find all those ROM updates and Radio Stack upgrade? I have 1.60.00WWE and Radio version 1.08.00. Is there a new rom upgrade out there that I can't find in myxda.com site?
Second question, could I replace the Microsoft Bluetooth stack so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to music or videos?
Thank you for your time,
Eberhard
I can answer the second question, the bluetooth on the xda2 does not allow listening to music through bluetooth headset neither has the full handsfree/headset profile been implemented. A very clever person has however written a program called pocket bluetooth tools which go some way to addressing some of the shortcoming regarding serial port profiles. Some of the later roms however have negated the need for this program. Run a search on this forum for "bluetooth", make sure you have an hour or two to spare.
powerppc said:
I just got my XDA II and loving it. This is my first post here, I've been looking for a great XDA site and now I found one.
First question is, how do you guys find all those ROM updates and Radio Stack upgrade? I have 1.60.00WWE and Radio version 1.08.00. Is there a new rom upgrade out there that I can't find in myxda.com site?
Second question, could I replace the Microsoft Bluetooth stack so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to music or videos?
Thank you for your time,
Eberhard
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As you know,the Xda 2 is name by thousand of other names like MDA2,I-Mate pocket pc phone,Q-tek 2020,etc..
The official upgrades you can find everywhere,especially on the company site like: www.clubimate.com (I-Mate)
www.myxda.com (Xda-O2)
www.qtek.nu (Q-tek)
Who let you download the newest upgrade by free.
-Actually there isn't such implemetantion on curent bluettoh stack but,have you tryed installing the new Bluetooth hacked Stack from Widcomm?
I give u the link for Access the Lan over Bluetooth,then you will find the link to the download of the Stack named BluetoothGPS.zip
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32&PN=1
Regards,
Ser
Thanks for all the tips you guys given me. I tried bluetooth stack and so far it works.
As for the hack on the bluetooth, I'm going to try it now.
But it still don't fulfill my satisfaction as I can't listen to music thru my bluetooth headset, at least not with bluetooth tools.
Thanks again, I hope this bluetooth hack will solve my needs to listen to music over my headset.
what hack are you guys talking about ??
i ve installed widcomm stack and the kai patch. when the widcomm manager connects to the headset it gives beeping sounds but after i answer the beeps there is no sound on my imate or the headset..
what hack are you guys talking about ??
Well, I tried the Widcomm BT tools and the darn thing don't work. 2 Bluetooth Icon Appeared on the bottom and I tried to connect my Headset and it doesn't want to stay connected when I hit the connect button. It would sound on but then it turns off and I can't answer a call with it.
Does Widcomm BT has to be installed with the Bluetooth Tools?
Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
Thanks
Jon
Works perfectly with my MR Handsfree headset. Until now I could not get it working in handsfree mode. With WM2005 it is working.
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
916senna said:
Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
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I have Ericsson's HBH-65 and WM2005 uses it as Headset only. It doesn't even call-back when I press headset button :-(((((((
Motorola HS-850...
I have a Motorola HS-850 and it works perfectly with WM2005 in Handsfree mode.
Now if I can just get it to voicedial via bluetooth...
Jabra BT250 here and Handsfree works great!!!
WM2005 is the only OS that I have had where my Jabra does what i want it to do.
Craig.
The crux is can you activate your phone through your BT headset to call any number?
No good in a BMW
I loaded 2005 and tried to pair it with my BMW, although the pairing went well and the hands free profile was selected, its no better than Sins 2003 rom.
The microphone in the car doesnt work, the speakers do. The microphone on the phone is the active one. It wont connect a call unless you try twice and you have to answer call twice before they connect.
Bugger
Jon
In the devices list, tap and hold the car kit, and select handsfree, see if this helps.
Voice dialling
The thing I find most surprising with WM2005 (and the previous versions for PPC) is the lack of hands free/car kit voice dialling. That is one thing the P910 has over WM2005 phones that emphasises that full convergence has not happened in the mind of developers... the PPC is a PDA with phone connectivity, whereas the Symbian system has taken the approach that its a phone first and foremost. With the simple addition of hands free voice dialling, WM2005 could be the first really convergent OS.
(I'm kinda hoping someone will say they have a perfect voice-dialling system in place for the XDAII with WM2005, in which case I'll gladly eat my words)
I am still very grateful for ALL those here who have helped deliver three OS upgrades to my XDA in the space of 18 months!!!
Some people are using Microsoft Voice command with Magneto and they reported it to work well.
Cheers
Pat
List of working WM2005 programs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20727
scooter said:
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
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ditto with Merc 2003 E class.
same old problem with handsfree
i also have the Motorolla HS850 and though it did work for a while it seems to be back to mic and speaker working on the device and only speaker on the headset!
so though you can hear the call on the headset the mic dosn't work but the mic on the device is active as is the speaker
has anyone else had this with 2005?
have hard reset and re loaded 2005 but without success
hmm its working again.....
this is wierd!
headset battery was low yesterday so it may be to do with that. will keep checking and see if i can spot a pattern
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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Pairing a Hermes with a Bluetooth Car Kit is certainly possible, and indeed routine. I have successfully paired with my two Ford cars, with a variety of WM5, WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs.
I merely followed the usual steps to set up a partnership, and ensured that the partnership was set as 'Hands Free' on the final page of the setup process.
So my experience is - no dramas, and I can't see why you are having problems. The car is, after all, just acting as a Bluetooth headset.
Transfer of contacts to your Car Kit is a bit more problamatical, as you have to set up Bluetooth Sim Access Protocol (BT SAP), to give the car, as it says, access to your sim card.
Hi and thanks for the response.
I have no problem pairing the hermes and it reads all my contact information and does everything I would expect save for the sound; I don't get any sound from the cars speakers and yet it all works perfectly with other makes/models of phone/pda.
I suppose the problem would be easier to solve if none of it worked but it does. I watch the car screen as it tells me I am making a phone call from my address book and I can see calls coming in but I cannot use the microphone on the PDA nor hear anything via the pda or the car's speakers. The XDA Exec (WM6) Nokia 5300 and XDAIIi (WM2003) work flawlessly (I borrowed those from my friends).
Thanks once again.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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291,
I've had the same problem...
But found this program... From JetWare Mobile - Its not free but there's a trial period to at least see if this fixes your problem...
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Now My bluetooth on phone and car works flawlessly, including: Music connection (can play Mp3's from phone and contacts loaded to the car stereo) I was even able to get Voice Commander to work through the car stereo but could not get announcements to work (a known issue with VC 1.6)
Look at this post, may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871&highlight=75BT
Hermes with RT4 system
I have got th esame problems with my hermes and my Jumpy with RT4 and bluetooth connection. I can drive my hermes, make a call by the way of the RT4 but speakers and mic are out. The only solutions to make them working is to make call by my hermes ans after RT4 working good and for and incoming call, accept it by the way of my Hermes. With this solution, I can ear ans speak unsing bluetooth system. If some one can help me, thank a lot...