Anyone know if xda II ram can be upgraded???
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaHardwareOverview
judging from the nude picture of it i doubt it since you would have to solver some smd ram chips out
of cause one never know but i've havent seen a pocketpc with more then 128MB before
of cause one can always use sd cards of cause some applications dont like being on the sd card and it dont give more memory
think it'll give me a heart problem just taking the ram out soldering which im very bad at most of the time burning the board
You are definitely not going to be able to work with these surface-mount devices with your home soldering kit.
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Has anyone tried the 4gb minisd on the Wizard, yet? I'm thinking about gettin 1 but I'm don't know if the Wizard/tmo mda will support it or see the entire 4gb.
I found this while looking for a 4gb sd to buy, and now i will just stick with the 2gb i have in fear of this same thing happening after i buy one for my 8125
i knowits not a Wizard, but still...
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=584&forum=8&post_id=4043
It is a scam. Read the feedback. These are hacked 2GB and smaller cards that have been formatted to be 4GB, but that greatly shortens their shelf life, and in most cases they'll die within a few months, if they last that long.
How do you hack something so freakin small?
I'm not positive, but I think it says in the manual (8125) that it will only recognize up to 2GB ... Probably will change with later updates...just as the earlier PCz would only recognize so much RAM and HDD space until their CMOS was updated.
It may be a hardware limit. I'm from the DRAM side of things, so I'm not exactly certain how flash is addressed, but I do know that with DRAM, most computers are limited by the physical number of address drivers that are built into the chipset. Just looking at a Mini-SD, I'd guess that it's a serial device, so maybe it's just a matter of a firmware upgrade to change the bit size of the address data - or maybe it's something completely different and I have no idea what I'm talking about (it wouldn't be the first time!)
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I've never heard of a 4GB miniSD, before this post. (I have seen 4GB SD cards advertised, could there be a confusion with that?)
If there are 4GB miniSD cards available, could someone post a link to them?
Here is a link :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270025489570
much more expensive than 2 2GB cards though ... I'll need to wait a little bit to get a cheaper one for my (future) Wizard (I'm waiting for the one I've just bought on ebay )
beware!!! their are fake sd cards on ebay!!! Usually the cheap ones are the fake ones! :evil:
They are also on Amazon.com for $146. They claim that they have them in stock and others have mentioned that the picture of the card has been edited--the number 4 that is. I am somewhat tempted to try it if Amazon will back me.
here is a story of a ripp-off on ebay : http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/mall/76525-4gb-minisd-card.html
4g miniSD that works
I have purchased a 4G miniSD from http://www.emartbuy.co.uk/index.php.
It works. There is a small problem with access time, i.e. it takes longer to write to and access the card than the 2G did, but apart from that there are no issues.
All I did was use a card reader and copy everything from the 2G card to the 4G card, put it in the device and away it went, like nothing had changed. Except now there is twice the storage. YAY. The card is brandless and is probably a reflashed card, but I don't care because it works for me.
I have an Imate KJAM.
I have puchased on from Moby memory,
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
Seems to work OK in my Xda MiniS, and IQ
Cheers
LB
OK, so I am seeing all those tasty looking 32GB, 64 GB and larger solid state hard drives.
Is it conceptually feasible that the Athena could take one of these???
Think of the possibilities, the Athena could truly be a UMPC, much like the Sony UX series.
Keith Walker
Nope.. Sorry.. The HD in the Athena is a stripped down 1.8in drive so its actually a bit smaller. The 2nd gotcha is that the interface is not a standard connector, thus nothing else will work (For now).
that 32 gb ssd is about 2200 USD
if u really wanna put that on ur athean =x
not true boinger66... 32gb is only $549 for sandisk ssd
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-4872
It seems the smallest SSD's out there are 1.8 inch which are still too big for the Athena, whose hard drive is more like 1.0 inch(?).
FWIW, the connector is important too, and I beleive that the type of connector the Athena uses is identical to the type available on the new SSD's.
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.....and I beleive that the type of connector the Athena uses is identical to the type available on the new SSD's.
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Why do you believe that? Got any links to back it up?
if u want flash u have to go CF with a converter to connect thats it, unless you want to cut the caseing and tape the ssd on the back
WAIT i have the best idea to get flash memory it the x7500........................
insert this thing thats small it really mini like an SD card but mini
This thread details the connector, 'PATA ZIF':
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306239&page=3
Spec:
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/menuitem.92382478a130ca1492480021aac4f0a0/
Here is at least one 1.8 (won't fit) that has the same connector:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32322/135/
Let's hope that SSD's shrink down to Hitachi Microdrive dimensions, then we will have a true UMPC!
irus said:
not true boinger66... 32gb is only $549 for sandisk ssd
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-4872
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yea woops i was thinking about the one for computers =x
OK, if not 1.8 will a 1.3 HDD fit in the Athena???
http://www.gearlog.com/2007/12/samsung_to_show_worlds_first_1.php
Hopefully the CES show will lauch some tiny SSD drives. I could go for a flash based 1TB drive in the Athena, lol....
Even with a terabyte of solid-state, its still not a "UMPC", as UMPCs are known on the market today. Don't get me wrong, I love my Athena and I certainly think of it as a much more of an ultra-mobile PC than a proper "UMPC". Inputs, outputs, ability to run just about any utility app you could want, it has everything. The only thing it lacks is high-capacity storage like a true UMPC and I know that's the point you are making. For me that won't be an issue since 8GB (plus 8+GB on the SD card) is more than enough for a ton of tunes, several movies, and all the apps I'll ever use.
I don't mean to split hairs, but whoever comes out with a PDA sized device that place calls, get email and has an SSD over 64GB, will get my money.
What I do is to install all applications either in microdrive or the device. music and video files go to the storage cards. Because no application is on the storage card, I'm able to swap my storage cards like I would with dvd disks. This means I have the ability to have whatever amount of storage as I want. Currently with about 80 applications installed, i've used less than 10% of the available space on microdrive. I should never ever need all the 8gb of microdrive storage space. I do have at least 20gb of music files, and these go to the storage cards. If I select only the 5 star rated songs, all would fit into one 4gb storage card without problem. I'm now eyeing the 8 gb storage cards though.
In short, I don't feel there is a need to install bigger size SSD, although it would be nice if this can be done.
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In short, I don't feel there is a need to install bigger size SSD, although it would be nice if this can be done.
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I do wonder if there are limits to the ultimate storage capacity with WM6 architecture?
Limits being?:
Expansion card size
Hard drive upgrade
one major point i see in this upgrade even if its a minor size upgrade will be its durability.ive owned my wizard for 2 years and ive put it through so tough falls and what not.not saying thats gonna happen with my athena,but not having a problimatic microdrive would be a plus,big plus.
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I understand that someone recently released a ROM that makes it possible for Pocket PC Techs to upgrade RAM for the Universal/JasJar.
Is anyone working on a new ROM for the Hermes/8525/TyTn which would make possible a RAM upgrade?
Thanks,
Bagua
I think the Universal has spaces on the board for extra RAM chips (uses same RAM chips as Blue Angel, which surprised me) but that the device doesn't use it unless a ROM which is specifically designed to make it do so.
Haven't heard anyone mention any extra room on the motherboard of a Hermes but I'd love it if there was - one of my 2 Hermes has poor radio and 'd happily cannibalise itto double the memory on the newer one.
(By an odd coincidence, Blue Angel, Universal and 2 Hermes are the devices I own and I will cannibalise the BA in this way when it gives out.)
I have discussed this with a technician who told me that the impediment is the ROM, that a cooked ROM would permit a RAM upgrade.
I sure wish someone would do it. I like my 8525. Great reception, great speakerphone, and easy to type on accurately.
Bagua
Interesting, it would be super if it could be done. Keep us posted if U find out anything more.
I'm hoping to get the attention of a talented programmer in the forum!
bagua
RAM upgrade for Hermes/8525
Again, I have it on good authority that a new ROM would permit a RAM upgrade for the Hermes. There must be someone with the skill and interest to do this.
The Hermes is a great phone, compromised only by the RAM issue , in my view.
I doubt it would be a feasible thing to do since there is very little in terms of free real estate on the board??
The Universal had the headers and pads to hook on new chips and as this thread suggests the ROM upgrade was modified to use the added chips.
TBH the ROM would be easily done as with the uni but the physical room for the ram chips wouldnt be there?
I was looking at the MSM7600 datasheet today and noticed that there is an external channel for the SDRAM. Has anyone cracked theirs open to see what chip is in there? I'm thinking it might be nice to give this an upgrade since I feel like this phone is severely memory limited.
Thanks,
Devan
No idea, but it would be sweet to have double the RAM.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
Where would you buy cell phone RAM? And I doubt there's support for more than what we've got. You're just better off waiting for your next upgrade.
Good day!
Has anybody some thoughts about Subj(chips type,organization)?
Is it possible?
P.S. I speak about RAM,of course...
Impossible? Or nobody thought?
I'm sorry, can't get your meaning
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I'm sorry, can't get your meaning
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He means:
Is it possible to solder new memory to the Archos units by removing the existing RAM chips and putting in new ones and if so, what brand and model of memory works. He was then wondering if perhaps no one has looked into or attempted this before.
As for the answer, I would guess no one has attempted this before because it is one hell of a hardware hack to desolder a chip like that and who knows if larger chips would work. I would not risk it personally, but I don't have that kind of disposable income that would allow me to not get pissed off if I trashed my unit. LOL
Not possible. CPU is on top of RAM (package-on-package, or something like that). Archos also confirmed somewhere that even if you were crazy enough to still try it, the processor can't physically access more memory.
same topic at archosfans.com: http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=43349
I wonder how hard it would be to upgrade the storage of an 8gb unit to 16, 32, etc. ??
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Thanks to All for answers!
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I wonder how hard it would be to upgrade the storage of an 8gb unit to 16, 32, etc. ??
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Would there be any advantage in that over installing a larger sd card?
I would assume that the memory chips are surface mount with lots of tiny legs. They would be almost impossible to change with a soldering iron. Replacement of SM chips is done with a machine that has a hot air nozzle the size and shape of pattern of legs around the chip. It melts the solder on all the legs at once without heating up the chip.
Some people are saying the memory is under the CPU, others vice-versa
Whatever the case, I guess Archos did it on purpose.
Anyway, this mod really looks harder to achieve than the one I was thinking about:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974244