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Hey Guys!
I'm having some issues in contact identification in Brazil and would like to know if you share the same problems in other countries. (And, .:hopefuly:., if you have a solution for this)
In Brazil, to make long distance phone calls we have to store our contacts number in this format:
0 + Operator + Area Code + Phone Number
For short distance calls, you could use just the phone number or the "full" number with the zero, operator and area code numbers.
Considering this, I've always had my contacts full numbers stored in my phone in case that if I go to another area code, I'll still be able to call my contacts from my city and from somewhere else.
The problem is: Whenever I get a SMS / MMS, the operator send the number in the following format (with a missing operator no.) and the phone won't recognize it as being a contact number.
0 + Area Code + Phone Number
I used to have nokias phones (n95, e71), motorola's, etc. and they all were capable to identify the contacts in SMS and phonecalls. I'm probably doing something stupid with my phone here.
It may be relevant:
Phone numbers in brazil: 8 digits
Area codes: 2 digits
Operators: 2 digits
ps.: If I misused the "operator" word, you can undestand it as being like "Sprint", "Verizon", "O2" and other companies that may provide you with long distance services. Eg. I could be a sprint user and use verizon's long distance service.
What your operator?
Thx
EMERSON VIER
My current phone operator is TIM - Brasil - São Paulo (11)
Every SMS I get has the phone number in this format:
0 + Area Code + Phone Number
Does android allow some sort of "default" operator for every phone call?
I'm having the same problem with my phone, I'm also a TIM subscriber.
The only (flawed) solution that I've found is to store the same number again but without the operator code.
Still hoping to find a better solution. Anyone out there can help us?!?
I use the MagiCall 2.2.4. my operator TIM.
andretrizzo said:
I'm having the same problem with my phone, I'm also a TIM subscriber.
The only (flawed) solution that I've found is to store the same number again but without the operator code.
Still hoping to find a better solution. Anyone out there can help us?!?
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That's exactly what I'm doing.
Couldn't find Magicall for android. Just WinMo.
My phone operator in Brazil is Vivo and I store all my phone numbers in the following format:
0 + area code + phone number
Because I ommited the operator code, Vivo assumes its default code. This way, the numbers stored in my phone are good for short and long distance calls, and the caller identification also works for SMS and MMS.
I'm not sure that applies to TIM though.
Of course what I suggested is just a workaround. This seems to be a known issue in Android:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1673
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1250
http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/0e5286ce14aba5b2
You could vote for the issues.
TIM doesn't have a "default" operator service. That's why we have this problem.
I think Claro and VIVO does. As soon as I get out of this contract, I'll migrate to other provider.
I have the same problem here.
You guys found any solution beside switching operators?
Nope.... Right now I'm a very happy vivo user.
However, it seems that the sim card is the one responsible to automatically add an operator number. Every time I call someone without the operator I get this message indicating that the sim card has changed the mumber automatically.
I wonder if we could add an program into TIM's simcards to act like other companies do.
danielmk said:
Nope.... Right now I'm a very happy vivo user.
However, it seems that the sim card is the one responsible to automatically add an operator number. Every time I call someone without the operator I get this message indicating that the sim card has changed the mumber automatically.
I wonder if we could add an program into TIM's simcards to act like other companies do.
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I installed a program called Right Number.
All my contacs are in the format: 0 + Area code + Number (01191234567)
When you make a call, the program adds the operator number of your like.
And when you receive a call, the phone will recognize the contact.
I recomend!
Hello I have a HTC Fuze currently running Titanium 28005.
I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem also. When someone calls me from a cell phone if they are in my contacts or not it comes up as Unknown Caller but if someone calls me from a land line it will come up as it should.
I have tried installing Titanium 28005 and 21877 , Standard 28005 and 21877 also the Leo EnergyROM and still no matter what I do it comes up as Unknown Caller.
Everything I have tried to do:
Install different Roms
Hard Reset
Soft Reset
Deleting all of my contacts and putting them in again. With or without area codes and 1 with area codes.
Tried NRGZ28 Tachi Dialer Disabler.
Tried searching xda-developers with google.
I am sorry if I am being a "noob" or something and if I seem like I am bableing on I am just trying to give as much info as I can.
Caller Display falls into two major categories:
Landline
The majority of landline service providers include Caller Name Display (CallID) as part of their service offering. When someone wishes to keep their number private, they must pay a fee. Note that some landline service providers split the service offering as follows:
Display telephone number (usually free)
Display telephone number and name (enhancement, fee)
Cellular
As cellular telephone numbers are private by default, most subscribers (you) must be pay a fee to provide the number. Many cellular service provider "include" the feature as part of a basic (voicemail, sms, etc.) cellular feature package.
The majority of cellular service providers do not include Caller Name Display (CallID) as part of their service offering. The cellular subscriber must pay a fee to receive the telephone number of the calling party.
What this means:
When you call a landline number, your number would be displayed providing the providing the following rules are met:
You have not requested privacy.
The caller cellular service provider offers the number (and name) to other telco networks.
The landline customer is able to receive number (and name) display via their landline service provider.
You are paying for the Caller Name Display feature.
Your device is capable of processing number (and name) information.
When you call a cellular number, your number would be displayed providing the other cellular customer is paying for the service to display telephone numbers (and names).
You have not requested privacy.
The caller cellular service provider offers the number (and name) to other telco networks.
You are paying for the Caller Name Display feature.
Your device is capable of processing number (and name) information.
When you receive a call from a landline number, the number (and name) will appear on your display providing the following rules are met:
Caller has not requested privacy.
The caller landline service provider offers the number (and name) to other telco networks.
Your cellular service provider offers CallerID - some providers only offer number display, other offer number and name (CNAP).
You are paying for the Caller Name Display feature.
Your device is capable of processing number (and name) information.
When you receive a call from a cellular number, the number (and name) will appear on your display providing the following rules are met:
Caller has not requested privacy.
The caller cellular service provider offers the number (and name) to other telco networks.
Your cellular service provider offers CallerID - some providers only offer number display, other offer number and name (CNAP).
You are paying for the Caller Name Display feature.
Your device is capable of processing number (and name) information.
HTH,
Update: What it is, is that when ever a Verizon cell phone calls me it comes up as unknown caller. As an example when my girlfriend calls me (AT&T Phone) it comes up with her contact info. When ever a friend with Verizon calls me it comes up as Unknown Caller. I have tested this with all of my friends that are on Verizon My girlfriend has the same problem on her LG Vu that still stock nothing has been done to the phone, but my mothers phone works when a Verizon phone calls her. I have not changed anything on my bill or anything in the past 2 years only thing I have done is change phones.
Everything was working just fine in till Saturday I started getting the unknown caller problem. My friends have also mentioned that when they call me they hear a wired noise like a computer trying to connect to the internet thorough dial up then it starts to ring.
I contacted AT&T today and they are looking into the problem. It might have something to do with them merging with Centennial Wireless
I will keep people posted if they are interested in knowing what come out of it. And if someone can throw in there two cents on what they may think it to be be my guess I am willing to try anything. I hate now knowing who is calling.
Next time you speak with AT&T, ask them to "repush" your SIM profile as well to eliminate the possibility of profile corruption.
HTH,
I received a call from a Verizon line yesterday, this morning actually a little after midnight. Showed up. I am on AT&T.
Update: I just Re-Flashed the orignal HTC Rom that they provide on there website
(HTC FUZE RUU Raphael Cingular US 5.11.502.2 Radio Sign Raphael 52.64c.25.35 1.14.25.35 Ship)
And had my friend call me and everything came up as it should so it might be the rom I flashed to my phone witch was Phoenix 2 28005 11-27-2009
altho att might have done something with out contact me so i am going to re flash the Phoenix 2 28005 11-27-2009 and check
Update: Ok flashed Phoenix 2 28005 11-27-2009 and everything is working as it should. I don't know if AT&T did something or not but now when someone on Verizon calls me it comes up as it should.
when it comes unknown caller, is it display their number just below unknown caller?
I have searched for this and found the same question posted in a HD2 Android category, but there were no responses... so asking for myself in here.
I have all my phone numbers listed in my contacts with the preceeding area code, as I often travel outside of the local area and need those area codes included in my contacts numbers..... ie: all my phone numbers are 10 digits in length.
However, there doesn't seem to be a requirement for the area code to be sent, when a caller has Caller-ID enabled. In other words, I receive some calls from contacts in my phone, but if their phone doesn't include the area code in their Caller-ID, then my phone doesn't recognise or identify the number. Consequently, when hanging up from those calls, it constantly asks me if I want to save the number.
Note - it isn't a permanent thing. Many incoming calls DO identify correctly, as the area code has obviously been sent with C-ID.
Does anyone have a solution for this?
Obviously I COULD go thru every contact and manually add another non-area-coded phone number - perhaps under an obscure phonebook entry, like "pager"... but surely this is something that one would expect be handled automatically by the phone... not by duplicating entries as a work-around.
What would happen for business-people who travel internationally - most of their contacts would also include the "+61" (or whichever) country code also.....
Nobody ???
Bumping again ????
Anybody have any clues to this?
Did you try disabling the Area Code Prefix setting in Settings -> Call Settings ?
kawazaki said:
Did you try disabling the Area Code Prefix setting in Settings -> Call Settings ?
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Thanx mate for your reply.
Sorry took so long.... my phone has been in for warranty repair (unrelated matter to this) for the last 7 weeks, so I haven't logged onto xda in that time !!!
No..... I haven't tried disabling the AC Prefix setting. I will have a look at that and see if it makes any difference.
One additional comment..... I am also having the REVERSE problem.... in that SOME people who ring me on their mobiles, the caller ID is also sending the +61 (Australia) country code in front of their mobile number too.... so again, my phone isn't recognising them as being the "same" number as what is stored in my phonebook ????
Will try the disable thing you mention and report if it works.
Sorry mate... cannot find the setting you mention.
Could you explain please exactly where it is ?
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Sorry mate... cannot find the setting you mention.
Could you explain please exactly where it is ?
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Or you could turn off having the phone ask to to add the number to your contacts.
On the US T-Mobile phone it is:
Activate phone screen
Menu
Options
Menu
Network Selection
Advanced tab
Turn off the feature to "Add new phone number to People at end of call"
I'm using the NRG ROM.
Thanks stevedebi.
Sorry - I mite not have been properly clear.
The issue isn't being asked to save a new number.
The issue is.... the phone does not recognise a number - mobile or landline - if there is an area-code or country-code prefixed to the number (or vice versa) with the entry in the phone book.
Eg: ALL my contacts saved in my phone have their mobile numbers WITHOUT the +61 country code.... and ALL landline numbers are saved WITH area-codes.
Now - depending on my contact's phone operators, they sometimes send with, or without, those prefixes in their caller ID's.
Consequently - on those occasions.... my phone does not recognise incoming calls or messages as having come from my contacts, due to the extra numbers at the beginning.
Surely this is a software issue from HTC? I mean, surely the software should be able to query an incoming called ID (either with or without prefixed-codes) with a saved number in the contacts/phonebook (with or without prefixed-codes)... ???
Bumping again ?
Sorry to be repetitive.... still looking for an answer to this ???
Check you registry setting for "HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch" value=?!?
try to reduce the number for "Value" by 1 and try.
This is for the number of digits your phone will check when comparing incoming numbers with stored names.
Thanx Omar,
Will try that. Question though.... does it check the phone number (by number of digits) in reverse order? ie: setting a particular number will have no effect, if it checks in normal forward order, as it's PREFIXES that are making things wrong.... so the phone needs to ONLY check the LAST 10 digits.... not the first 10. This will eliminate the issue with any country-code added to the front of a number... but will not help with a local area code, as these are dependent on the callers' carrier, if they send the area code in the CID or not
From my experience with my HTC phones, it checks the last digits.
I have number saved with the +974 international code (for Qatar), & when local call come in, they only show the local format (without +974) & the caller ID still recognises the names. Our local numbers are 8 digits, so I have the registry value set at 7 or 8 & it works fine.
I have unlimited international texting package on my phone. All my contacts numbers are in international format. E.g.:
• US numbers are +1-ccc-nnn-nnnn (ccc = area code. nnn = the phone number)
• UK numbers are +44-7ccc-nnn-nnn.
• SA numbers are +27-8c-nnn-nnn.
I was using an EVO on a personal account and had no problem sending to my friends in UK, Albania, Germany, South Africa and Australia. Int'l texting worked great for a few months now. I then converted to a business account and got a Photon on a new line; switched the int'l texting package to that phone. Sprint CS verified that it is indeed active on the Photon line.
Whenever I send an int'l SMS I always get this message from sender 9230: "Message sent to invalid destination. Please check your number and try again. Msg 2127".
I phoned Sprint CS and my issue has been escalated up to Tier 3 support at the int'l dept. They have asked if I have included 011 in front of my number.
Therefore, the numbers to send the int'l SMS would be:
• UK numbers 011-44-7ccc-nnn-nnn.
• SA numbers 011-27-8c-nnn-nnn.
It seems, if I send a message to a friend in UK this way, he gets the message, but if I use international format for my numbers, I get the 9230 error message.
I really don't want to have to change 200+ contacts by adding 011 prefix to all my numbers. Having all my numbers in international format is great for when I travel. The + symbol will be the international dialing prefix depending on the country: US is 011, Europe is 00.
Seeming as the int'l messages worked fine on the EVO 4G, could it possibly be an error on the Photon's side of things in the way it is interpreting the international format prefix +?
While I wait for an answer from Sprint Int'l department, can anyone verify if this happens with them on their Photons?
Thanks
I have actually never encountered such problem. Although, the only international texts I have sent to is to Hong Kong. All my phone numbers are in +852 xxxx xxxx as it were supposed to be.
Right off my mind (Although I'd be surprised Sprint hasn't suggested this yet), you might want to check Settings -> Call Settings -> Plus Code Dialing Setting, and make sure the checkbox is set, the the dialing code is set to 011?
Thanks for the heads up, but my settings were the default:
Under the Plus Code Dialing settings:
Domestic Dialing IS checked
International Dialing & Messaging code: 011
Evo 4G LTE
I'm having this same problem with my Evo LTE. I imported all of my contacts and SMS history from my Desire, which I had used in Germany for the last 2 years.
A bunch of the numbers don't work. I tried updating a few numbers of people I SMS frequently, but it didn't solve the problem. It looks like any thread that was STARTED with an international number defaults back to that number any time I SMS in that thread, or even respond to an SMS from that contact. Even when the incoming number shows up in U.S. (xxx) xxx-xxxx format, I still get a 2127 error for replies.
Hello,
Just got my HTC Ultimate (Brazil's for Titan) and I'm experiencing some problems while dialing and returning calls...
For the details below I'll use a number (9999-8888) from Brazil (country code 55), with 31 as area code.
I store my numbers in international format (+55 31 9999-8888, for the number above) and Vivo (my mobile carrier) sends incoming calls identified as 03199998888 (same number).
I can't call none of them, as I need to dial (according to Brazil's standards) a number in the following format:
0 15 31 9999-8888
The leading ZERO identifies a long distance call, the following "15" tells them to use a especific long distance provider, 31 is the area code and the rest is the number.
In android I've used several apps to do this "translation" in real time, while calling, like "Operadora DDD", "Profiler" or Right Number...
Is there anything like this in Windows Phone 7?
I've checked the "International calling assist" thing too...
I believe it's good to match incoming calls with different number patterns from my contacts.
In fact, no matter where it's on or off, my phone matches 03199998888 for "+55 31 9999-8888", so I believe it would deal with more strange patterns...
While receive a call and match a contact is OK, calling is still a challenge...
Anyone with tips?
Hi, rgmarques. I'm from Brazil too. I have the same problem. Send email to [email protected].
Thanks
Antonio Marques
Hi guys, i'm a former owned of a HD7 and now I own a Ultimate too.
All my contacts use the pattern: +5511XXXXXXXX, for São Paulo as an example. All working now.
The fallowing patterns also works: 011XXXXXXXX, 0YY11XXXXXXXXX
As an example, if you use a TIM SIM, the match option when someone calls you will not work, at least never worked on any imported device I own previously. This is because when your recieve a local call, TIM does no put the DDD before the number! This is done nice by Vivo.
Please, don't keep information on your email, share it with forum. Since the Titan is a brand new device here in Brazil, more people will come to find solutions for their problems.
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Cris
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Try this: Go to Settings and then choose SIM application.
Click on "show application", click on "Facilidades" and then "Vivo DDD". Activate it.
Give feedback please.
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Cris
Well, seems like my SIM card doesn't have a "facilidades" option...
Here in minas Gerais, we've moved from Telemig Celular to Vivo 1,5 years ago and some stuff hasn't changed completely yet... SIM apps seems to be the case...
I've seen different behaviors in incoming calls matching on my Motorola Milestone,depending on the ROM I used. Never tried different carriers, as it was never an option. But I believe they might send different numbers as originator of the call, resulting in different results.
But my problem relates to originating a call...
Vivo won't let me call +5511XXXXYYYY... I need to call 01511XXXXYYYY...
Well, while no alternative solutions come up, I've changed my contact numbers to match our (Brazilian) pattern... Regular expressions made this reasonable while nothing else shows up... If anyone needs any specific help with the process, just let me know...
I'll keep looking and will report here if i find anything useful...
Thanks.
rgmarques said:
Well, seems like my SIM card doesn't have a "facilidades" option...
Here in minas Gerais, we've moved from Telemig Celular to Vivo 1,5 years ago and some stuff hasn't changed completely yet... SIM apps seems to be the case...
I've seen different behaviors in incoming calls matching on my Motorola Milestone,depending on the ROM I used. Never tried different carriers, as it was never an option. But I believe they might send different numbers as originator of the call, resulting in different results.
Well, while no alternative solutions come up, I've changed my contact numbers to match our (Brazilian) pattern... Regular expressions made this reasonable while nothing else shows up... If anyone needs any specific help with the process, just let me know...
I'll keep looking and will report here if i find anything useful...
Thanks.
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Call VIVO and ask them to enable this for you. Or, if your have an old Nokia, try you SIM on it and see if the option appears there for you.
But can be different SIMs for each State.
When you DIAL without the DDD Operator, nor the AREA, does it completes the call? If not, this is the problem and this service from VIVO will 'add' the DDD Operator when you do a long distance call.
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Pimentel
Hi Cris,
I have a Titan with Tim, and I save the contacts with 04121XXXX-XXXX, so when I receive a call from my contacts I don't see the contact's photo or name, only the tel number XXXX-XXXX without area code. But when I save the number like XXXX-XXXX without area code and Tim code, the photo appears on screen.
I had a Htc Diamond with Tim and photos appears well.
Antonio
cpimentel said:
Call VIVO and ask them to enable this for you. Or, if your have an old Nokia, try you SIM on it and see if the option appears there for you.
But can be different SIMs for each State.
When you DIAL without the DDD Operator, nor the AREA, does it completes the call? If not, this is the problem and this service from VIVO will 'add' the DDD Operator when you do a long distance call.
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Well,
I used to save my contacts in the international format, +55 31 9999-8888.
With that, I'll need a transformation instead of a simple addition of the carrier code...
If I call 03199998888, the call completes when it's a local one. If it's a true long distance call, it will fail, requiring me to explicitly inform the carrier code.
Well, I will try to check if Vivo has any hint for me.
I'll call them tomorrow.
Thanks again.