GPS Connector / External Antenna - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Hello!
i've got two questions about the MDA 1 using in my car. After making me an freehands facitlity, there are two little problems at all.
a) I want to mount the GPS connector plug whit glue on my MDA cradle. This will work, i mean, but i must remove the two metal pins on the sides of the connector to be able to set and remove the MDA. Will this work or is it the ground of the plug???
b) Yes, there are a lot of topics about MDA and external antenna. I have the idear to use an antenna connector from nokia. there will be some one for Nokia 3310 like this (http://www.tele55.de/shop/produkte/5/84/054194.htm) and so on. will this work?? Has someone tested this or knows a better way to use the MDA whit external antenna?
THANKS a lot for any answer !!!!
Markus

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CONFUSED...is the blue angel connector same as the XDA II???

Ive read many post on here and others. I must say Im confused.
Is the new Blue Angel connector physically the same as the previous XDAII connector?
Are the pin outs the same?
Some people say no problem, some are filing theirs down??? Some are "forcing it in" - YIKES
i would love to know as well
The pin outs are the same - the connector is physically the same size, but there is one minor change - there is a little 'step' on one edge of the connector.
XDAII accessories, such as chargers, usb and gps do fit but you need to be careful when you insert them.
Forget my stupidity. I used to own the Siemens SX56 and had hotsync and car charger cables.
The question is now I have the Siemens SX66, is it safe to use the same cables from the SX56? I haven't tried it since I don't want to kill my new toy!
If anyone knows or can verify that it's safe it would be really appreciated.
I am using car charger, usb sync cable and wired gps that were originally bought for my XDA1, then used on XDAII and now work fine on MDAIII.
Do any of the serial keyboards work with XDA IIs?
I tried to connect the stowaway keyboard I used with my XDA II but it does not seem to work with my QTEK 9090.
I'm only guessing, but I would think that the drivers weren't written for wm2003SE.
I have the darfon fold out keyboard that I bought for my sx56, and last night I got it working just fine with my new sx66, so yes, they work. I needed to go to darfon.com and download the newest version of the driver.
I have one of the IR keyboards and the supplied driver works fine, but I have to balance the MDAIII on something to make it high enough for the IR receiver on the keyboard because the MDAIII IR is on the side.
The pin outs are the same
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They are not!!!!!
There is a voltage output from an XDAII when in a call, but the XDA IIs doesn't give the voltage!
Can't remember which pin off the top of my head but I have been testing this and found this to be a major problem when designing a proper car kit for both items!
..Spence
Bit worried about using my incar chrger from my xdaII for my IIs. Does anyone know where I can get a charger or usb sync cheaply for the IIs/pd2k? Expansys are charging £20! There's one here:
http://www.firstphoneshop.co.uk/o2-phone-accessories/o2-imate-pda2k.shtml
But i'm not sure its not just the old II charger...
Hi all,
I see birdog has put piccies up at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18435&highlight=pin+blue+angel
(and thanks btw) but can anyone confirm this pinout?
Cheers!

MDA III/XDA IIs connector different from XDA II ?

Hi,
I have a wired GPS solution named Kirrio which has been working fine with my old XDA II.
Ive just recently bought an MDA III (XDA IIs) and was expecting it to be an easy swap.
However it seems that although the connector in the bottom of the PDA looks the same between the two, it has changed.
When I connect the wired GPS cable (which also includes power for the PDA) nothing happens.. the power led doesnt light yellow as is custom on the PDA when its charging, and the GPS doesnt work.
Ive noticed that the MDAIII connector seems to have a small spring thingy in the front of it which match with a slot carved out in the plugs. This is different to the XDA II... but Im not sure if the spring thingy is a small switch or something... and if the wiring is totally different between the two.
Kirrio cant help me.
Anyone have some ideas?
I am using my original Destinator (Leadtek) wired GPS that I got for the XDA, used it on XDAII with no problems and have been using it since last October with no problems on my MDAIII (XDAIIs)
check this
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
Reset key, cradle and cable connector is placed on the low part of the device. The connector is differed from the old device, it means that old cables and cradles can not be used with the new smartphone.

External Antenna Connector Name??

Does anyone know what the connector for external antennas on the back of the wizard is called? I want to build a custom antenna that I can embed into my clothing to improve reception at school. I can't use a regular antenna since phones aren't allowed to be used at school.
HDR said:
Does anyone know what the connector for external antennas on the back of the wizard is called? I want to build a custom antenna that I can embed into my clothing to improve reception at school. I can't use a regular antenna since phones aren't allowed to be used at school.
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The antenna part is:
P/N:36H00341-00M "Antenna Pre-Assy, AMPHENOL, GAN40023, PRODIGY"
I am attaching 2 pictures, the first you can see the Antenna Assembly (silver chunky thing above the case) and a second picture of the main board. You can see the brass connector just above the bar code.
This connector type is an AMPHENOL (brand) FME...at least it should be. One of these days I'll get and antenna.
--M
PS when you get the antenna, get a connector that at least has a 90degree bend in it. You might want to try http://www.wilsonelectronics.com
I have one
I grabbed one of those adapters, unfortunately, I cannot remember where. One end (FME) fits into the back of the phone with the 90 degree plug, the other end on mine is a TNC connector. I got that as I had a couple of spare antennas that use TNC.
It does improve the reception. I use the antenna's in the vehicle when on the highway to maintain reception. (I have no problems in the city)
Depending on your device, you may want to update the Radio ROM, if you haven't already. This doesn't flash/reset your phone, but does update the radio. This might resolve your problem without spending any money.
I am using the 2.47.11 Radio ROM and it did make a difference. My device is the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard). In a particular location, where I would get zero reception, I now get one bar...and that's all the difference I need.
P.S. If you do get this adapter, be careful when plugging it in and during use. Remember that FME connector is attached to the circuit board.

What is the external antenna connector standard?

What is the external antenna connector standard?
I am trying to buy an antenna but I can't get my head around all the connector standards. What is the name of the one on Hermes? Anything like FME female or something?
Also, can anybody recommend any good antennas that would cover the 2100 band (for 3G) ?
It does not use a standard connector. Do a google search for 8525 external antenna. You will find cables that let you connect the 8525 to standard cell phone external antenna connectors. There are also some sites with external antenna kits that include the external antenna and the adapter cable. Here is one site with both: http://www.alternativewireless.com/cingular/cingular-8525-accessories.html.
Thanks
Thanks mate !
How about tytn vs tytn2
Does hermes share the same antenna connector socket as kaiser? (tytn and tytn 2)?

car charger cable + radio antenna

Hi everybody!
I would like to use my TOPAZ with GPS and TMC in my car, but without charging, the batterylifetime will be very short.
Does anyone know if its possible to get an charging cable witch integrated antenna for cars, or something similar I can modify to do this job.
Maybe I can combine a normal Headset with a charging cable.
thx
I am using this one. Very good to fix and give a good position to view the GPS maps. Besides, recharges battery and has a speaker/mic system so that you don't need to enable the speaker on the phone to receive or make calls.
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/car-handsfree-kit-htc-touch-diamond-2-_p04146c0867d060.html
Haven't found any one with a antenna for either GPS or Cell radio, yet. It seems TD2 won't support external antennas.
Regards,
Roberto.
yeah, i'm looking for such a cable too. but havent found any yet.
cant be so hard to integrate some wire for radio in a charging cable.
i bet a lot of people would like to have it.
update: now i found two accessories which might help.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Audio-Cha...17?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1250514224&sr=1-217
http://www.amazon.de/Diamond-Y-Adap...r_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1250514463&sr=1-28
i think i will check out the first one and hope it works for the antenna too.
Home made cable
It's very simple to make the cable yourself. I have done it and it works perfectly...
What I did is the following:
1) I took the headset from my old Tytn II (or use the new one if you can lose it), and cut it just before the volume control (seen from the phone).
2) I cut open the usb connector, took off all plastic insulation (is some work) and disconnected all cables except for attachment number 7 (see figure), which is the antenna cable (this is the strand of small copper cables without further insulation around it).
3) I took a car charger and cut off the usb connector and soldered the two wires to attachment numbers 1 (red wire) and 5 (black wire).
Be very careful to solder very well, because you don't want any shortcuts...
Voila it's working.
Even better is the following (which I'm going to do now, now I know it's working):
1) Buy the following connector:
http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=266
2) Solder a simple cable of about 0.7 mm^2 and 75 cm long to port 7 and solder the car charger to ports 1 and 5.
That's it...
Combine this with the following software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
And you will have TMC available in IGO or other navigation software.
Hope to hear if it works (for me it does). I have TMC now and charging when using my IGO, and besides I can use my bluetooth carkit, because it doesn't think there is a headset connected to the usb!!!
@amraam12: Wich rom and radio rom version you are using? I tried the same, but no luck: when putting +5v on the charing line, the radio gives no signal. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535358&page=3)
rom
rom: 1.39.114.2 (47382) nld
radio: 3.43.25.19
Antenna only
amraam, in case I just want a better reception provided by an external antenna and don't need to recharge while connected, if I solder an antenna connector to pin 7 (and 5 = GND) in a extUSB connector I'll be able to have much better reception, right?
How about using an antenna like this (http://www.wpsantennas.com/301103-wilson-cellular-magnetic-mount-cell-antenna.aspx) for that? Do you think that may work to improve reception on low signal places?
From your tests, how better is using the external antenna?
Thanks.
http://www.4allclients.nl/?action=4...koonl&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick
This is a navigon usb charger with tmc antenna, will this also work on the HTC rhodium?? Does anybody know if the antenna is conntected to pin 7 ?
bmhvanbenthum said:
http://www.4allclients.nl/?action=4...koonl&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick
This is a navigon usb charger with tmc antenna, will this also work on the HTC rhodium?? Does anybody know if the antenna is conntected to pin 7 ?
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That is a TMC (Traffic Message Channel) antenna. It is used to receive info about traffic from a specific FM channel so that GPS can calculate better routes. I don't know exactly if it is connected to pin 7, but probably is. To use that service, it should be available in the place you are driving. I am just guessing, but Pin 7 seems to be only a connection to an antenna for FM frequencies (around +80 ~ 108MHz).
I haven't found anything stating it can also be used to received external GPS or Cell Phone radio external antenna signals. These are all very different frequencies, btw.
Regards.
question about your charger
rfbrandao said:
I am using this one. Very good to fix and give a good position to view the GPS maps. Besides, recharges battery and has a speaker/mic system so that you don't need to enable the speaker on the phone to receive or make calls.
Haven't found any one with a antenna for either GPS or Cell radio, yet. It seems TD2 won't support external antennas.
Regards,
Roberto.
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rfbrandao
Is it possible to receive fm stations on td2 while it is connected to this charger?
If so, maybe also tmc data could be received by it without pluging in the headphones.
tomi

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