Hi everybody!
I would like to use my TOPAZ with GPS and TMC in my car, but without charging, the batterylifetime will be very short.
Does anyone know if its possible to get an charging cable witch integrated antenna for cars, or something similar I can modify to do this job.
Maybe I can combine a normal Headset with a charging cable.
thx
I am using this one. Very good to fix and give a good position to view the GPS maps. Besides, recharges battery and has a speaker/mic system so that you don't need to enable the speaker on the phone to receive or make calls.
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/car-handsfree-kit-htc-touch-diamond-2-_p04146c0867d060.html
Haven't found any one with a antenna for either GPS or Cell radio, yet. It seems TD2 won't support external antennas.
Regards,
Roberto.
yeah, i'm looking for such a cable too. but havent found any yet.
cant be so hard to integrate some wire for radio in a charging cable.
i bet a lot of people would like to have it.
update: now i found two accessories which might help.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Audio-Cha...17?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1250514224&sr=1-217
http://www.amazon.de/Diamond-Y-Adap...r_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1250514463&sr=1-28
i think i will check out the first one and hope it works for the antenna too.
Home made cable
It's very simple to make the cable yourself. I have done it and it works perfectly...
What I did is the following:
1) I took the headset from my old Tytn II (or use the new one if you can lose it), and cut it just before the volume control (seen from the phone).
2) I cut open the usb connector, took off all plastic insulation (is some work) and disconnected all cables except for attachment number 7 (see figure), which is the antenna cable (this is the strand of small copper cables without further insulation around it).
3) I took a car charger and cut off the usb connector and soldered the two wires to attachment numbers 1 (red wire) and 5 (black wire).
Be very careful to solder very well, because you don't want any shortcuts...
Voila it's working.
Even better is the following (which I'm going to do now, now I know it's working):
1) Buy the following connector:
http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=266
2) Solder a simple cable of about 0.7 mm^2 and 75 cm long to port 7 and solder the car charger to ports 1 and 5.
That's it...
Combine this with the following software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
And you will have TMC available in IGO or other navigation software.
Hope to hear if it works (for me it does). I have TMC now and charging when using my IGO, and besides I can use my bluetooth carkit, because it doesn't think there is a headset connected to the usb!!!
@amraam12: Wich rom and radio rom version you are using? I tried the same, but no luck: when putting +5v on the charing line, the radio gives no signal. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535358&page=3)
rom
rom: 1.39.114.2 (47382) nld
radio: 3.43.25.19
Antenna only
amraam, in case I just want a better reception provided by an external antenna and don't need to recharge while connected, if I solder an antenna connector to pin 7 (and 5 = GND) in a extUSB connector I'll be able to have much better reception, right?
How about using an antenna like this (http://www.wpsantennas.com/301103-wilson-cellular-magnetic-mount-cell-antenna.aspx) for that? Do you think that may work to improve reception on low signal places?
From your tests, how better is using the external antenna?
Thanks.
http://www.4allclients.nl/?action=4...koonl&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick
This is a navigon usb charger with tmc antenna, will this also work on the HTC rhodium?? Does anybody know if the antenna is conntected to pin 7 ?
bmhvanbenthum said:
http://www.4allclients.nl/?action=4...koonl&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick
This is a navigon usb charger with tmc antenna, will this also work on the HTC rhodium?? Does anybody know if the antenna is conntected to pin 7 ?
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That is a TMC (Traffic Message Channel) antenna. It is used to receive info about traffic from a specific FM channel so that GPS can calculate better routes. I don't know exactly if it is connected to pin 7, but probably is. To use that service, it should be available in the place you are driving. I am just guessing, but Pin 7 seems to be only a connection to an antenna for FM frequencies (around +80 ~ 108MHz).
I haven't found anything stating it can also be used to received external GPS or Cell Phone radio external antenna signals. These are all very different frequencies, btw.
Regards.
question about your charger
rfbrandao said:
I am using this one. Very good to fix and give a good position to view the GPS maps. Besides, recharges battery and has a speaker/mic system so that you don't need to enable the speaker on the phone to receive or make calls.
Haven't found any one with a antenna for either GPS or Cell radio, yet. It seems TD2 won't support external antennas.
Regards,
Roberto.
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rfbrandao
Is it possible to receive fm stations on td2 while it is connected to this charger?
If so, maybe also tmc data could be received by it without pluging in the headphones.
tomi
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Does anyone know where I can buy the plug that plugs into the bottom connector for an XDAIIs?
I've asked everyone I can think of, searched Google, Maplin(UK) and Expansys and I can't find one.
It's probably because I don't know the correct name for it!
Ideally, I'd like one that has all 22 connections and even cables attached - they look really hard to solder onto by hand!
Any information would be greatfully received :lol:
Thanks
...Spence
http://www.gomadic.com/connectors.html sells connectors
Wallaby, Himalaya are compatible with HP iPAQ Connector Plug Assembly (19/22/38/39/41/43/51/54/5500 Series)
but read that the plug of BlueAngel is not exactly the same.
I purchased an XDA II car charger from the O2 shop in Manchester - it came with a plug that works fine with my XDA2s - have used it on the car charger and on the supplied power lead - charges fine.
When I got my IIs, it CAME with the plug already, any standard car charger can plug right into that plug and then the IIs... You sure you guys didn't get it?????
I think you mis-understood me - I'll try again!
I have developed a complete installed car kit for XDA, XDAII and IIs that does the following.
Mutes stereo when in call and puts all sound to front speakers
Can put navigation commands through the stereo
Hooks up to external microphone
Has PS2 (Holux) and RJ11 (TomTom and Leadtek) GPS connections
Charges device
I'm trying to get hold of a connector with 22 connections because I have one problem left.
To switch the car kit on, I either need a 5V feed from the device OR need to be able to put 5V in on one pin and get 5V out of another.
If anyone can help with either the connector or letting me know which pins I might be able to use send me a mail please
Thanks
...Spence
connectors
have you tried RS componets or CPC.?
Does anyone know what the connector for external antennas on the back of the wizard is called? I want to build a custom antenna that I can embed into my clothing to improve reception at school. I can't use a regular antenna since phones aren't allowed to be used at school.
HDR said:
Does anyone know what the connector for external antennas on the back of the wizard is called? I want to build a custom antenna that I can embed into my clothing to improve reception at school. I can't use a regular antenna since phones aren't allowed to be used at school.
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The antenna part is:
P/N:36H00341-00M "Antenna Pre-Assy, AMPHENOL, GAN40023, PRODIGY"
I am attaching 2 pictures, the first you can see the Antenna Assembly (silver chunky thing above the case) and a second picture of the main board. You can see the brass connector just above the bar code.
This connector type is an AMPHENOL (brand) FME...at least it should be. One of these days I'll get and antenna.
--M
PS when you get the antenna, get a connector that at least has a 90degree bend in it. You might want to try http://www.wilsonelectronics.com
I have one
I grabbed one of those adapters, unfortunately, I cannot remember where. One end (FME) fits into the back of the phone with the 90 degree plug, the other end on mine is a TNC connector. I got that as I had a couple of spare antennas that use TNC.
It does improve the reception. I use the antenna's in the vehicle when on the highway to maintain reception. (I have no problems in the city)
Depending on your device, you may want to update the Radio ROM, if you haven't already. This doesn't flash/reset your phone, but does update the radio. This might resolve your problem without spending any money.
I am using the 2.47.11 Radio ROM and it did make a difference. My device is the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard). In a particular location, where I would get zero reception, I now get one bar...and that's all the difference I need.
P.S. If you do get this adapter, be careful when plugging it in and during use. Remember that FME connector is attached to the circuit board.
I found a very nice & Slim universal charger on Kensington's site for Notebook, PSP, Ipod (yes I have all this stuff in my backpack...), but a tip for hermes seems to be missing.
Does anybody now a similr device with Hermes tip too?
TX
Basically anything with a mini-USB plug will work.
That's not been my experience. If it connects something to the data pins it will work, if not, it won't charge correctly.
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
KevinBaker said:
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
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Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
The pin doesnt need to be bridged when theres a data source like a pc on the other the end.
Could you check to see if your chargers have those pins bridged or not?
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Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
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I have not been doing any kind of research about bridging those pins because I just read about it first time, but my experience about charging problems are very similar to yours. My TyTN won't charge normally via USB-hub or car-adaptor, and after failing the charging process, it won't start charging again. Resetting helps after this, but I think that also waiting resets the situation. But that I'm not so sure about.
When I connect it directly to PC, it works just fine.
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
rantanplannet said:
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
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Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
icemantwilight said:
Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
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Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
rantanplannet said:
Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
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Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
icemantwilight said:
Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
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Damn .. then it's not so easy.
But I guess it's still possible, without totally breaking the plug. I hope ...
Interesting. That is exactly the issues I see using a 12V/USB adapter and cable in my car. Well hopefully in 2-3 months when my free vehicle charger comes from Cingular it will have the pins bridged and work properly!!!!
I wonder if the bridged pins and data cause the bluetooth to turn off after a period of time. I see that happen on my phone often when its connected and charging. But disconnected from the 12V/USB charger the BT stays on.
Thanks for testing and posting.
I had this exact problem with my m5000 to, i use a ipod battery extender as a backup for my m3100 as i regularaly find the need for extra power.
Quick work around for this problem is to power down completely by holding the power button. Then plug it in while turned off, wait for charging light to go orange then switch back on, will continue charging then until plug is removed.
HTH
V3
So, I don't understand: in the end, does it work or not with an adapter for V3?
If yes I could by that...
TX
If it helps any, I use an iGo universal power adaptor (available from Radio Shack and Expansys) which uses the iTips style device-specific tips. This is very similar to the Kensington system, although I believe the two are now incompatible.
Tip A53 (which is also designed for AudioVox phones) works well for me with my T-Mobile MDA Vario II.
http://www.igo.com/
Is this all I would need to receive a GPS signal on my i-mate JASJAM?
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
I just sent the following inquiry to them, I'll see what they respond.
It sure would be sweet if that is all it needs!
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Does this item imply that a Cingular 8525 has a built in GPS that will become active using this item?
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
Thanks
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think their is a thread about this topic and sad to say it does say a GPS solution other than buying a reciever is very much improbable..
here's the link to the topic:
My solution was to purchase the Garmin Mobile 20 cradle. www.garmin.com
The cradle holds the phone and has a suction-cup mount for the windshield. The cradle plugs into the cigarette lighter and has a charging cable that plugs into the mini-USB port on the phone.
Software can be loaded on your memory card (I have all North American and Canada).
For less than $250, I have a very good navigation system that travels with me.
Erik Latranyi said:
My solution was to purchase the Garmin Mobile 20 cradle. www.garmin.com
The cradle holds the phone and has a suction-cup mount for the windshield. The cradle plugs into the cigarette lighter and has a charging cable that plugs into the mini-USB port on the phone.
Software can be loaded on your memory card (I have all North American and Canada).
For less than $250, I have a very good navigation system that travels with me.
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promising product but kinda expensive though.
OP, if your considering Erik Latranyi's suggestion, you may want to consider buygpsnow.com, i dont work for them but i can swear by their good service. they have packages too that you can choose from and more cheaper than Erik's setup.
That antenna on cnn is not for hermes. It plain and simple will not work. The connector on the phone that it is shown linking too is a GSM antenna connector for car kits.. it will not provide GPS.. not now.. not ever.
Bluetooth GPS's are easier/cheaper/faster/tidier and the real killer... possible
So go for one of those instead. I use a $50/35GBP Holux bluetooth GPS with my hermes.. works fine.
(on the plus side.. if you are lucky the cnn antenna wont damage your phone.. if you are unlucky it might well)
Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
avathar said:
Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
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Tom,
WiFi - Forgive if 'teaching granny'; use Wireless Manager to turn on WiFi. Then Start|Settings|WiFi Settings and you should get a display of any available WiFi devices. If nothing showing, tap 'Add New' to allow insertion of the SSID info for a known device and force a search. Are you able to check connectivity with your hub using another WiFi enabled phone or PC in the same location ? Assuming that works OK, try seeing if the WiFi adapter for that device can be detected by the TG01 in close proximity. If you are not getting anything at this point, then I'm afraid it suggests a probable hardware issue with the radio in your TG01. Depending on where/how purchased, you may be able to go back to the vendor if within warranty; alternatively it may be worth contacting the authorised Toshiba Repair Centre in the UK - Regenersis Ltd in Scotland. They would have the necessary facilities to test/repair.
Audio Output - the TG01 uses the newer micro-USB port standards. This defines a single port capable of multiple functions: Charging, Analogue Audio Out (+mic), Data (USB sync) and also USB Host capability. It does this under processor control by sensing the type of device being attached. One aspect is based on the resistance seen between the 0V pin and Pin 5 ( a special 'sense' pin). For audio output, it uses the resistance across the D+ and D- (Pins 2 and 3). If you plug in earphones or similar which have too low a resistance, it will not recognise them and therefore will not switch the audio output from the phone speaker to the uUSB port. The supplied audio adapter includes appropriate resistors. You can also buy simple uUSB to 3.5mm adapters which include or can make or adapt your own. There are references to this with more detail in this post in a different thread.
Good luck, and hope you are able to get the TG working properly
Regards,
Kevin
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
avathar said:
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
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WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition (see link in my sig) and see what happens with that. It's using Radio 0300.76. If that also shows the same symptoms then I think you will need to look for a repair.
Headphones - yes should work OK. A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ? If so then there is nothing wrong with the phone and in which case I'd recommend checking you are using the correct pins on the uUSB plug and/or that there are no solder whiskers between contacts or similar (apologies if 'teaching Granny' here ). I'm not familar with any devices using a mini-usb in a similar manner - only one I've had with mini-USB was a Motorola RAZR3 but that was essentially just a 'dumb' hardwired USB port. The re-configurable approach only arrived with the introduction of the uUSB standard along with the TG01, HD2 and similar. Don't know about HTC Diamond, but in general HTC used a proprietary 11-pin connector which includes dedicated separate audio out as well as data and charging capabilities.
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition.
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yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
kevinpwhite said:
A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ?
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No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
avathar said:
yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
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I'm very sorry - can't think of any other simple checks re the WiFi just now.
However still some hope with the headphone output - I can now see from your photo that you have used the uUSB to USB A Host adpater - the plug on this is internally wired with a short between pins 4 and 5 (0V and the Sense pin). That causes the device to go into Host mode - so it is expecting to see a USB Flash Drive or similar on the end - not headphones. You need a lead with a basic uUSB B (that's the shaped connector with black insert rather than this one which is rectangulat with a white insert).
When I mentioned the 'original connector' previously, I was referring to checking with the supplied earphone/mic cable....
Hope that helps resolve...
Best regards,
Kevin