Hello
I have 4.01.16 T-Mobile romkitchen ROM on my XDA. It can only use 900/1900 bands, which is not a problem to me since my GSM provider (T-mobile hungary) is on 900MHz (i live in europe where is 900/1800). Can it cause any problems such as battery drain, network problems, etc?
KTamas
Can you not change to 900/1800 in the bootloader?
cruisin-thru said:
Can you not change to 900/1800 in the bootloader?
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How can i enter to bootloader?
Hold power button while pushing stylus in reset hole, when you get "gsm ok" on screen, push button below antenna, there you can choose your gsm band.
cruisin-thru said:
Hold power button while pushing stylus in reset hole, when you get "gsm ok" on screen, push button below antenna, there you can choose your gsm band.
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will it make hardreset?
It didnt hard reset my device, programs were still intact.
Previous post was mine, forgot to log in. :roll:
cruisin-thru said:
Previous post was mine, forgot to log in. :roll:
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damn, it DO hard reset my device
Did it fix the problem?
cruisin-thru said:
Did it fix the problem?
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I never had problem hehe, i was just wondering if it'll work better (better signal strength for example, etc.) I changed to 900/1800, nothing difference...whatever.
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Just to be clear, I have a rom kitchen 1.2 rom, and an o2 uk xda. When I switch to 1900 nothing happens? In fact, none of the three bands work?
I did a search on this and it says that an international call bar has to be lifted by o2 to enable calls from usa on their sim, they give this
number to call to check if this is enabled, might help. 0870 860 860
xda band switching tool
My Simm card works in other tri band phones here, so the ban has been lifted, any other clues?
Have you tried changing bands using the bootloader method? Dont know if that will help but it is worth a try.
I don't know how to use the bootloader method? Can you tell me how?
Press the stylus into the reset button on bottom left (screen facing you) of the xda, while holding down the on/off key, this will put you in bootloader mode, then press the right hand key pad at the top of the screen, choose from there. You will see all the options gsm900 gsm1900 gsm900/1800, hope this helps.
I have done that and still nothing. However, i don't know how to exit the mode properly, all I do is reset the phone again, is their a proper way to exit this tool?
From this site.
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DEBUG/CALI.
GSM TURN ON
GSM TURN OFF
GSM RESET
GSM 900
GSM 1900
GSM 900/1800
GSM RFCAL
GSM NORMAL
Now these look a lot nicer than they may be. We still haven't tested whether the device is actually a tri-band phone that is just software-limited to being a dual-band phone, but postings on the net seem to indicate that it is not actually a tri-band phone. But even though we think we know, we still need someone with access to a European phone in the U.S. or vice-versa to test this. We haven't tried, and we strongly advise against trying "DEBUG/CALI.", "GSM RFCAL" and possibly even "GSM RESET", unless you really don't care about the device. Options like these are used in factories where they have lots of expensive RF equipment to calibrate each individual phone. If you don't listen and still want to try these options, make sure you keep a good log of what happens, and please do tell us!
Over the next menu, this time after starting the bootloader and pressing the 'Action button', which is the center of the rocker key below the screen. This time, it quickly reports the GSM was already on, and then displays:
Hi I'm a newbie here, I just got upgraded my t-mobile to Rom version 4.01.00 eng, before it was 4.16.00 eng, it has a signal from my network but when I upgraded it, I didn't get any signal from my network but when I try to select networks my provider reflects on the list as well as the other networks. Is my t-mobile worn out?
thank you for all the help you could give me...
You could try entering bootloader to make sure 900/1800 is selected. I think this hard resets your phone so backup first. Hold power button while pushing stylus in reset hole, push button below antenna, choose 900/1800 then soft reset.
t-mobile no signal
thanks for the help, but still it didn't work, any other ways?
i live in the usa and i have the 8525 and i unlocked it and supercid unlocked it via pof's method.. i used fit4cat to tweak it out a little and the ptt hack to use voice command via the ptt button...
Right now i am in brazil and i have tried several peoples sim cards and none of them seem to work.. it does not give me the invalid sim message so i know its unlocked...have i done something to my phone with the hacks and unlocks that make it not workable in brazil ..is there some setting that i need to set in order to have the phone work in brazil on TIM or Claro that im not doing...
Please help.. as of right now i am sitting in a hotel room trying to get my phone to work via the internet...
thanks
-abe
anyone have any solutions???
I would say look at the wiki to find the registry tweak that enables the band selection in the phone options. And then try changing the band.
Brazil is a 900/1800 GSM-band country. Have you tried switching your phone to GSM-only?
Incidentally, I'm heading there myself next week, and I'm equally curious about how the phone will react to the network down there...
well, i hardreset the phone and put it back to orriginal and that still didnt work.. i also was online with cingular tech support and they said everything should be working.. well it isnt.. and they also said it could be the radio of my phone... so as of right now im sitting in a hotel in sao paulo downloading the rom from htc http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html ...maybe if my install got messed up some how this will fix it... on another note.. my girlfriends Moto Pebl works fine with both mine and her cingular simcard.. full service.... how strange.. ..
if i didnt the regestry tweak to pick networks to be on that might fix it .. but i should be fully able to roam already...
if anyone has some ideas' im all ears..
I found a similar thread over on HoFo. One guy also posts a solution. Here is the link: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1058899
Ninja1
barrydavisjr said:
I would say look at the wiki to find the registry tweak that enables the band selection in the phone options. And then try changing the band.
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well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
one more question that is off topic... on the bottom of my 8525 the mini usb hole as a black lip around it.. on one side of it its flush with the phone and on the other side it is raised a little above the casing... is this the same with all of them.. or is the usb bezzle black thing deffective on mine?
honestabe said:
well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
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I work for Cingular and know that they sometimes do things that don't seem logical. Like building the ROM and not allowing the auto detect of a network.
Hi there, I´m from Brazil, if you want call me, send me a pm first. I have a Tytn and universal working.
honestabe said:
well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
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EUREKA!!! Thanks for finding and posting this, Abe. I'm having exactly the same problem in Australia and I did the same thing as you; now I have cell service!
BLAZES, CURSES AND GENERAL DAMNATION TO CINGULAR for removing the 'Band' tab from Phone | Settings. I mean really, if you'd never used WM5 before, how would you even know it was missing? It's like one of Rumsfeld's Unknown Unknowns.
HTC Tytn in Brazil - Easy with the Tweaking
Hi Guys!
Before you guys go on tweaking your devices to death, try something simple! I just got back from the Far East where my Dopod was running 3G. I had selected Auto on the network type and band. Guess what, my phone was dead! I reseted and hard reseted and eventually it occurred to me that the problem may lie in the networks setting. For some reason my Brazilian service provider (TIM) is sometimes unable to "inform" the phone what kind of network it is running and what band. Thus I forced it to GSM and selected 900+1800+ UMTS(2100). It works perfectly ever since!
Cheers
yeh, i cant figure out why they removed the band tab... it is very usefull to have... and when i was on cingular.com i went to a live techsupport chat where the woman told me my phone was deffective, and when talkin to her i realized i had more knowledge then her on the device and quickly x´d out of the window in the middle of the conversation... Bottom line is that cingular should have never removed that band tab from the phone.. well, im happy for whoever this post helps ....
-abe
wierd thing happend... after i did the reg tweak and had my phone picking up service i then went to install a few apps i needed on the phone... i didnt like the way things were going so i decided just to hard reset the phone and start from scratch... after a hard reset the phone suddenly picked up service with no reg tweak.. i cant figure out why this happend because i hard reset the phone before i applied the reg tweak and still got no service..... so no my phone had no reg tweak and service. ..strange.. i wanted to cover my ass so i applied the reg tweak again to be on the safe side...
fit / finish around usb port
honestabe said:
one more question that is off topic... on the bottom of my 8525 the mini usb hole as a black lip around it.. on one side of it its flush with the phone and on the other side it is raised a little above the casing... is this the same with all of them.. or is the usb bezzle black thing deffective on mine?
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I just replaced a buggy 8525 with a new Cingular 8525, and both of them have the black bezel sticking out from the outside just a bit. nothing a dremel tool wouldn't fix (/shudder/)
I have had the "no service" problem in both Sao Paulo, and Rio... I did the band selection registry change described on the wiki, will see tomorrow if the phone change or the reg. change fixed my "no service" problem in Brazil.
as a side note, the macro slide next to the camera lens was very loose on the old phone, would almost move by shaking the phone... the new phone has alot of resistance when sliding the macro knob...the old one must not have been attached to anything!
UPDATE: New phone works great in Brazil, I did the registry change to allow access to the "Band" selection in the phone settings, but did not have to change them from the default "Auto" settings to allow it to find the networks in both Sao Paulo and Rio. I believe the new phone fixed the problem.
Cingular 8525 in Brazil
You guys are fantastic! I cannot thank you enough for the apparent solution to the problem those of us with Cingular 8525s in Brazil have had.
I have lost many hours, not to mention some $$$, trying to get around the "no bars icon of death" on my 8525 when I was in Brazil. Cingular have been totally incompetent in trying to provide a solution, although they recognize a problem. I just posted a message in their forum suggesting they get their incompetent selves over to this forum to learn something.
I am going to try to apply the reg tweak, although I am not as technically competent as most of you. Now I can't wait until I have to go back to Brazil on business!
I'm from Brazil...
I bought an iPaq from Cingular long time ago, and I had a lot of problem to get it working here. Now I have 2 Qteks, on boght on Europe and other one bought in Brazil, both working great here.
I think the problem is always Cingular.
fabio.palma said:
I'm from Brazil...
I bought an iPaq from Cingular long time ago, and I had a lot of problem to get it working here. Now I have 2 Qteks, on boght on Europe and other one bought in Brazil, both working great here.
I think the problem is always Cingular.
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GR8 Conclusion!
I've mine TyTN as well, working good since that arrived here.
Hi
The problem actually is VIVO. The started a new GSM operation at the 850 band and since them all the Windows Mobile quadband devices (also triband with 850 Mhz) try to register first at Vivo. Due to a bad network configuration, the phone do not try other bands and networks and remains at SOS Only - Emergency Only since Vivo will not allow registration with another SIM card. The same problem happens with Smartphones too, even with Treo 650.
BR
Julio Cohen
juliocohen said:
Hi
The problem actually is VIVO. The started a new GSM operation at the 850 band and since them all the Windows Mobile quadband devices (also triband with 850 Mhz) try to register first at Vivo. Due to a bad network configuration, the phone do not try other bands and networks and remains at SOS Only - Emergency Only since Vivo will not allow registration with another SIM card. The same problem happens with Smartphones too, even with Treo 650.
BR
Julio Cohen
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Great Julio... perfect as always
Here goes some "official info" I found:
Cingular said:
From Cingular:
International Roaming Device Issue
Issue Description:
Cingular has identified an international roaming issue impacting several
different handsets and resulting in loss of service. Specifically, users
may experience problems when devices are taken into an area where North
American (850/1900) and European (900/1800/2100) frequencies co-exist.
Cingular is not the only North American carrier impacted since the issue
is device-related, not network-related.
The following countries currently have carriers broadcasting on both
North American and European frequencies:
Brazil
Australia
Trinidad and Tobago
Thailand
The following are known devices impacted at this time:
Treo*
Samsung BlackJack
BlackBerry 7290, 7100g
LG CU500
*As a workaround, Treo users may leverage the devices ability to scan
for carriers on specific frequencies.
Current Status:
Cingular is in the process of engaging the device vendors identified
with impacted devices.
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UnlockBR said:
Great Julio... perfect as always
Here goes some "official info" I found:
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Yeah, I saw this in the Cingular user's forum. Did you notice that our 8525 is not listed in Cingular's publication?
Hi,
so...
my advantage with AP 3 Dual (SPL 1.20) shuts down while i try to connect with umts network.
When i try to connect he simply shuts down and i can only restart hin by pressing the powerbutton.
So...i've insstalled SpB, AP 3 addons: task manager, temp realvga comm manger, snapvue, htc home screen, opera 9.5 build 405 (irus addons), pocket rar, tcmp, realvga with german language....
does somebody have an idea why he's doing this?
no ideas?
the connection with hsdpa worked.
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no ideas?
the connection with hsdpa worked.
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suggest you do a hard reset and setup connections before anything else if it works then its some where else
HTC Advantage 7510 no 3G
Anyone make a fix for the 3G in the US? I use AT&T and they have the same UMTS bands as the phone's claimed specs but AT&T said it won't work. So, I know that some patches or roms have been created to fix other phones with this same problem. Has someone done something similar for the 7510?
Quincy
It could be also a BATTERY problem.
In the Excalibur section device shutting down while trying internet connection is a well known problem due to battery problem. A lot of power requested (CPU, radio) old or defective battery.... shut down!
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Anyone make a fix for the 3G in the US? I use AT&T and they have the same UMTS bands as the phone's claimed specs but AT&T said it won't work. So, I know that some patches or roms have been created to fix other phones with this same problem. Has someone done something similar for the 7510?
Quincy
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Probably want to post your question in the new 7510 sub-forum.
qsworld said:
Anyone make a fix for the 3G in the US? I use AT&T and they have the same UMTS bands as the phone's claimed specs but AT&T said it won't work. So, I know that some patches or roms have been created to fix other phones with this same problem. Has someone done something similar for the 7510?
Quincy
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if it has the same bands, it will work. and as far as I can remember my athena worked fine on 3G on ATT when i was in the USA..
I trying enable 850Mhz 3g band, i used *#2263# but. Dont work
I have baseband T959uvjfd
Can help me?
Are you using the US T-Mobile Vibrant?
If so, it doesn't support 850MHz 3G.
inconceeeivable said:
Are you using the US T-Mobile Vibrant?
If so, it doesn't support 850MHz 3G.
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I'm pretty sure Eugene figured it out, since he uses AT&T and his area only has the 850mhz band. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure of it.
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I believe you go into the dialer, enter *#2263#, go down to "COMBI BANDS" (last option), "WCDMA 850 (FDD V)" (last option), click it, press "Add WCDMA_W850", press back, restart phone, and your good to go!
Did you do those steps?
I stick by the "Not in the FCC document" argument. They tested 1700/1900/2100MHz bands on the US Vibrant. No 850MHz band listed.
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I stick by the "Not in the FCC document" argument. They tested 1700/1900/2100MHz bands on the US Vibrant. No 850MHz band listed.
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They listed those 3 bands, but the phone wouldn't list another band if it didn't have it.
You just have to enable it, do what doubleohseven said, and it'll work.
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I believe you go into the dialer, enter *#2263#, go down to "COMBI BANDS" (last option), "WCDMA 850 (FDD V)" (last option), click it, press "Add WCDMA_W850", press back, restart phone, and your good to go!
Did you do those steps?
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Are you actually confirming that this works? I've done the same thing (even disabled every band but 850MHz) and it turned out that it was actually still connecting to 1900MHz...
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They listed those 3 bands, but the phone wouldn't list another band if it didn't have it.
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Huh? That's what I'm saying...if the radio was physically capable of 850MHz, wouldn't they have tested it?
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Are you actually confirming that this works? I've done the same thing (even disabled every band but 850MHz) and it turned out that it was actually still connecting to 1900MHz...
Huh? That's what I'm saying...if the radio was physically capable of 850MHz, wouldn't they have tested it?
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They could have simply missed it (like they're going to "miss" the monopoly of the AT&T-Mobile Merger).
doubleohseven said:
I believe you go into the dialer, enter *#2263#, go down to "COMBI BANDS" (last option), "WCDMA 850 (FDD V)" (last option), click it, press "Add WCDMA_W850", press back, restart phone, and your good to go!
Did you do those steps?
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yes. i did and nothing happen