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:?: Is there anything to stop me buying a T-Mobile MDA in the US and putting a UK simm card into it (bar unlocking the MDA - i assume it's locked) ?
Just wondering..
O2 seems rather expensive to me!
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong!
The answer is nobody is exactly sure. The bandswitch and unlocking tools provided on this site in theory should make this possible, but nobody has actually tried and tested this yet to confirm how fuctional it is.
In my opinion though if you live in the UK, as I do, you are probably better off buying a machine designed for the UK networks and paying the bit extra, as we do on almost everyting it seems.
You can get the 32mb versions very cheap now on contract anyway.
yep it does work
I bought a t-mobile MDA from ebay and been happily using it on O2 since Jan.
It'll only connect to O2 & Vodafone, I used a serial cable to unlock it.
I am a newbie to pocket PCs, this is my first post here. I’m sure most of you must have heard of the Softbank X01HT by now. I would like to buy this phone/Pocket PC and use it with English OS (since I am a foreigner and my Japanese is very poor). But unfortunately Softbank only sells the Japanese version, I talked with one of their support staff, but she said that they don’t provide English version.
So I am wondering now; is there a way to install the English OS and still use it in Japan with the Softbank contract? . I went through the first few pages of HOWTO: change a Softbank X01HT from Japanese to English, if I follow those instructions will I still be able to use it with the contract? Where is the programmed contract information stored ? Wont I erase it thereby render the phone useless if I flash the ROM? I am assuming that they don’t use a SIM card (GSM) since all other normal Softbank phones use CDMA. But I am little bit confused here.. isn’t this same as iMate JASJAM (which doesn’t have CDMA , only GSM ?).
As I said before I am a total newbie so please bare with my noob questions
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated Thanks.
yes you can but not recommended for now. read this thread about the issue and you should wait and see how things turn out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284765
Thanks.
I cant read Japanese (especially Kanji). So is there any other work around to use this phone in English ? I still haven’t bought it but want to buy soon. Does anyone think Softbank will release an English version ?
harryk1372 said:
yes you can but not recommended for now. read this thread about the issue and you should wait and see how things turn out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284765
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I went through that thread, but I don’t exactly understand the problem. What is an open softbank connection ? is it using (unlocked) english OS with softbank contract ? or some sort of a special connection (plan) like the Gold Plan etc..?
PhoenixFx said:
I went through that thread, but I don’t exactly understand the problem. What is an open softbank connection ? is it using (unlocked) english OS with softbank contract ? or some sort of a special connection (plan) like the Gold Plan etc..?
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you should check the sofbank plans first. they have a flat-rate data plan you may want to subscribe to in order to conserve the monthly cost. for that, you have to use the access point named open. we all know how to set up that connection using open and using it now however softbank doesn't like that and they will change it to a different access point that requires their new rom itself to set up. if you have a x01ht flashed with an english rom, you cannot use that new access point from apr 1 for the flat-rate data plan and that is our problem.
that's what it is in a nutshell...
Thanks, I am not familiar with all of their plans (I currently use AU by KDDI). I will be getting an Orange plan and their normal web package for internet. Because I’m not planning to use the internet a lot over Softbank connection. I have access to wireless connections almost everywhere in the university (where I spend most of my time) and in my apartment, so I will be using wireless for internet most of the time.
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you should check the sofbank plans first. they have a flat-rate data plan you may want to subscribe to in order to conserve the monthly cost. for that, you have to use the access point named open. we all know how to set up that connection using open and using it now however softbank doesn't like that and they will change it to a different access point that requires their new rom itself to set up. if you have a x01ht flashed with an english rom, you cannot use that new access point from apr 1 for the flat-rate data plan and that is our problem.
that's what it is in a nutshell...
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and to some extents I find it rather pathetic that Softbank ignores the need for non-Japanese OS on the Hermes. Nevertheless, Vodafone (= now Softbank) had been the vendor of choice for foreigners living in Japan for their mobile communication needs for years now, up to the extent that major foreign corporations had beed standardizing on issuing Vodafone phones as company phones. That SoftBank just ignores this need is something I cannot really understand. Is is just that they are unable to sell an English OS unit or are they actually unwilling to do so...?
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and to some extents I find it rather pathetic that Softbank ignores the need for non-Japanese OS on the Hermes. Nevertheless, Vodafone (= now Softbank) had been the vendor of choice for foreigners living in Japan for their mobile communication needs for years now, up to the extent that major foreign corporations had beed standardizing on issuing Vodafone phones as company phones. That SoftBank just ignores this need is something I cannot really understand. Is is just that they are unable to sell an English OS unit or are they actually unwilling to do so...?
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i tend to agree with all that, but in fact all their 3g phones are equiped with japanese/english biligual interface except for x01ht. this is just my speculation but i think they didn't have a choice for that as wm5 is not capable of providing biligual interface. this is the same with docomo and their htc z is also sold just with the japanese os although they made the bilingual interface possible on their motorola m1000 symbian uiq device.
i believe they did have the option of selling english wm5 x01ht with a different stock number but they probably dropped that considering the market size compared to the japanese x01ht. it's a pity if that was the case...
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i tend to agree with all that, but in fact all their 3g phones are equiped with japanese/english biligual interface except for x01ht. this is just my speculation but i think they didn't have a choice for that as wm5 is not capable of providing biligual interface. this is the same with docomo and their htc z is also sold just with the japanese os although they made the bilingual interface possible on their motorola m1000 symbian uiq device.
i believe they did have the option of selling english wm5 x01ht with a different stock number but they probably dropped that considering the market size compared to the japanese x01ht. it's a pity if that was the case...
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However, as easy as it is for them to drop a firmware update on their site for new network information, you think it would be just as easy to make available an English official Softbank rom. Wouldn't that be a show of good faith.
ihorner said:
However, as easy as it is for them to drop a firmware update on their site for new network information, you think it would be just as easy to make available an English official Softbank rom. Wouldn't that be a show of good faith.
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hmmm... i didn't think about that but that's a valid point. i hope someone at sb is reading this thread.
harryk1372 said:
hmmm... i didn't think about that but that's a valid point. i hope someone at sb is reading this thread.
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I definitly agree here - basically SB is hurting itself with not supporting English on the X01HT. Everytime I walk by a SB store I see Westerners scratching their heads because they'd like to get the unit by shy away because of the Japanese OS. Bringing phone/pda's to consumers (as opposed to DoCoMo that keeps it to corp. customers) could help SB regaining market share, especially important since they struggle financially after the Vodafone aquisition. So I wonder what's keeping them become 'the' market leader for foreigners in Japan...? I hardly can believe that it is just the language barrier that is keeping them from posting a English SB ROM for the X01HT. If that's really it, I think there would be volunteers helping them with that...
Purchase Englisn X01Ht
PhoenixFx said:
Thanks, I am not familiar with all of their plans (I currently use AU by KDDI). I will be getting an Orange plan and their normal web package for internet. Because I’m not planning to use the internet a lot over Softbank connection. I have access to wireless connections almost everywhere in the university (where I spend most of my time) and in my apartment, so I will be using wireless for internet most of the time.
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Hello Phoenix
I do have a conveted X01HT that I might plan on selling if you are interested then you can E mail me at ?
Catfish
Purchase Englisn X01Ht
PhoenixFx said:
Thanks, I am not familiar with all of their plans (I currently use AU by KDDI). I will be getting an Orange plan and their normal web package for internet. Because I’m not planning to use the internet a lot over Softbank connection. I have access to wireless connections almost everywhere in the university (where I spend most of my time) and in my apartment, so I will be using wireless for internet most of the time.
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Hello Phoenix
I do have a conveted X01HT that I might plan on selling if you are interested then you can E mail me at?
Catfish
I sound a bit like I work for Virgin (I don't honest).
but a:
1. DAB radio
2. Some TV stations (for 3 months on PAYG, but BBC1 will continue)
3. A WM5 smartphone (with bluetooth, EDGE and quad-band)
4. MP3 player
etc. for just over 100 quid. seems a nice toy to me!
If you go here
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/lifestyleLanding.do
and make a note of the code, although its been 14000 every time Ive been there, you get 20% off!!
Plus if you go to the site through quidco you get 10% back as well!
I'm sorely tempted by this, despite the reviews, if only yuo could get it unlocked and still get the tv I'd buy it!
damn, bugger. You are right. Comes down to £90 inc. packing. Well I could send back and re-order. Or I may not bother ... too much hassle.
BBC1 is free continously. But I am looking at this as more of a WM5 smartphone to run games on and muck around with and as a pocket DAB player. It gets good reviews for the DAB radio, and good ones are around £99.
The main down side with this phone are:
1. Squijy keyboard
2. No wifi
Otherwise its got quite good reviews:
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article696.html
I'm quite tempted by this phone myself, but could you answer a quick question for me, please?
Once the phone is unlocked (as your other post) and another sim is inserted, would I still be able to receive the TV? I've read elsewhere that Virgin charge a fiver a month for the TV, which implies to me that it will only work with a Virgin sim in the phone
I've got 6 months of a tmobile deal to go, after which I am looking to get one of the ntl/Virgin sims with 300mins + 300 texts for a tenner a month.
stunno said:
I'm quite tempted by this phone myself, but could you answer a quick question for me, please?
Once the phone is unlocked (as your other post) and another sim is inserted, would I still be able to receive the TV? I've read elsewhere that Virgin charge a fiver a month for the TV, which implies to me that it will only work with a Virgin sim in the phone
I've got 6 months of a tmobile deal to go, after which I am looking to get one of the ntl/Virgin sims with 300mins + 300 texts for a tenner a month.
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1. I have succeeded in app. unlocking, but not sim unlocking. So still to come.
2. You can sim unlock from a commercial service. Do a google.
3. If it is sim unlocked, you can insert a sim from another provider and use the phone fine. The TV will also work. However at least every month, virgin change the crypt key on the TV channels. So from time to time your TV will go off and you will need to reinsert the Virgin SIM to get the new crypt key.
4. The DAB will work regardless
rgds
Thanks for the info, Colonel!
I've just posted on another forum to find out if the ntl offer will class as a monthly contract to get the tv for free. I'll post back when I get an answer
this phone can be unlocked either for free from virgin by ordering the code( you must have used at least 30 quid since you have had your phone tho) or you can get it unlocked instantly from imei-check but they take payment thru paypal,and as most of us know paypal are as reliable as an english cricket team in australia so i stay welll clear
but the virgin option is pretty cool,although wouldnt know wat to do with the 30 quid once topped up as virgin services are pretty useless
Lobster price
Yep brilliant.
We are porting our software to them as we speak and should have 10 of them arriving tommorrow.
Out in the field next week.
I'll let you know.......
SteveW
in the field
10 out in the field all working fine........
Data charges are expensive though
Its only £80 now.
£80
Where from????
classicxda said:
Where from????
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http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=251178
Lobster 700TV (HTC monet)
I've got one. I bought it for the DAB radio which is excellent.
The main draw back I've got is the Bluetooth A2DP issue. It don't work from the box, although the manual says it does! I've got back to Virgin who are presently investigating (first response was "it don't do A2DP" but they had to rethink coz it's in the manual).
I'm looking at the Tornado A2DP hack. Tried it without 'apps unlock' and got insufficent permissions.
So next step is to unloack and try again......but will wait until virgin get back to me.
Happy with the rest of the features. But I'm not a heavy phone user. The other niggle I could mention is the keypad ...... keys a bit small and have to take care. But it is usable just. I'm not abig texter and could imagine that texting could be a pain.
If I'm sending messages I use my PDA with the Lobster as a bluetooth modem. This works well.
Overall very satisfied. But got to sort the A2DP issue.
Lobster now FREE with 12 months FREE Tariff
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Just seen that the Lobster tv phone is now appearing FREE with 12 months free tariff on virgin.
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/di...gift=&hs=700TV
In January I was excited about comming new official AKU 3.3 and then nothing happen (officially AKU 3.3.1 is not formal update as is not posted on HTC website, thou 1.35 SA also in not official upgrade but found in new HTC TyTN's), now they are telling us about WM6 upgrade path - well I think that right now they might be right. Why?
3.3 release was affected by Vista release, and as most of you know Vista is not best platform to launch upgrade for our device. What to do? Company play stupid and they test release first OS then current 2.11 SA via people who are contributing in various internet forums. Of course only XP ready, meanwhile they tried to workaround Vista installing, but as usual with MS it is not ready for major support at begining (just got Vista Resource Kit - almost 3 months after release).
So what they can do for angry customers? Give them a bone - official WM6. Of cource MS might give them it for discounted price for suffering with Vista, but it also is in MS plans to do it. Boost sales of Office 2007 and Exchange 2007. That is why I do belive that now upgrade will come at last.
What do you think about this?
BTW. I wan't change TyTN until new device with HSUPA and UMTS 900 and UMTS 2100/1700 will be in sales. I would like also GSM 400/450 but probably it want happen.
Pawlisko said:
What do you think about this?
BTW. I wan't change TyTN until new device with HSUPA and UMTS 900 and UMTS 2100/1700 will be in sales. I would like also GSM 400/450 but probably it want happen.
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FLOO FLA FLOO... sorry, what?
Pawlisko said:
So what they can do for angry customers? Give them a bone - official WM6. Of cource MS might give them it for discounted price for suffering with Vista, but it also is in MS plans to do it. Boost sales of Office 2007 and Exchange 2007. That is why I do belive that now upgrade will come at last.
What do you think about this?
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You're right. M$ is providing WM6 free to the OEMs/ODMs because they want more sales of their core products -- Vista, Office 2007 and Exchange 2007. The OEM/ODM can pass on that incentive to the customer if they wish.
I am not saying that HTC won't come to their senses and actually do this (they seem to be saying that they will), but given their track record, I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to do it. The sad state of affairs is that they don't care much for the TyTN et al, they are already working on the next gen (Kaiser) which will be the source of revenue for them this year. They want you to upgrade to Kaiser and toss your Hermes. Too bad for people that bought Hermes devices from a service provider on a three year contract.
And really, who cares that HTC will be issuing an "official" WM6 upgrade sometime this year -- we already have excellent fully working WM6 ROMs on our devices thanks to JJ, walshieau, CUSTEL, LVSW, and others. As far as I am concerned, they burnt their bridges with me.
John
johnburn said:
they are already working on the next gen (Kaiser) which will be the source of revenue for them this year. They want you to upgrade to Kaiser and toss your Hermes.
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I was waiting for the Kaiser simply for WM6. For me my Magician did pretty much all I wanted. But then I relented and got a Hermes and upgraded the ROM instead!
@olipro - well this is part where technology take place
HSUPA - High Speed Upload Packet Access - gives you upload speed up to 2.1 Mbps. Together with HSDPA gives HSPA - 3.75G network.
UMTS 900 - 3G in 900 MHz. There are talks right now in France that some operators want to move from GSM technology in 900 MHz to UMTS in same spectrum. It gives no state licensing fees (they have 900 MHz spectrum to convert) and coverate UMTS at 900 MHz gives bigger coverage area per network tower.
UMTS 2100/1700 is US T-Mobile version of UMTS. It differs from worldwide that download is in 2100 MHz spectrum (same everywhere) but upload utilizes 1700 MHz spectrum (in worldwide wersion 1900 MHz which in US is in use by T-Mobile GSM service and Cingular GSM/UMTS service).
GSM 400/450/480 is GSM service in 400-500 MHz band right now new spectrum from GSM to be used in less populated areas. Currently in use i.e. in Tanzania, but there is need for this. I read report that AUS operators press on this to cover interior part of Australia.
My goal is to have most versitle device I can have. I do not know where I will work tomorrow so I have to be ready - Windows Mobile is great platfrom but I need powerfull hardware for it.
@johnburn - well let me tell you that i was thinking about it but...
a) HTC gave written statement - if it was boogus thay would say that it is not true, so we may assume that it is true. Good lawer can win big money for not holding to companys word - especally when it is written.
b) why I like official version then modified? Because I will not lose warranty, using custom made OS I may. Of course after warranty period - what the hell but untill then only official versions.
c) Kaiser - well I do not think that it will kill Hermes - geographical diversiffication. HTC will sale Kaiser in Western Europe / US / Japan / AUS but there are many places where HTC will still could sale TyTN with profit - Eastern Europe / South America / etc.
@The_Hawk - good for you, if you are waiting for new version/model you will never buy anything
Pawlisko said:
a) HTC gave written statement - if it was boogus thay would say that it is not true, so we may assume that it is true. Good lawer can win big money for not holding to companys word - especally when it is written.
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Can a lawyer (good, bad or otherwise) actually prove the letter came from HTC? Notice that it came from an Italian website. It is not on HTC's web sites, at least, I can't find it there.
I have no doubt that HTC will eventually issue WM6 upgrades to some or all of its current devices and likely for free -- they'd be foolish if they didn't, seeing as everyone else is. I'd be astonished if it actually happened at the end of April (which year, they didn't say?) Their track record isn't very good in this regard (OK, its atrocious!). If this is true, then the only thing I can think of is that they have finally been beaten by the ROM cookers on this site and are doing this to attempt to regain control.
Your other points are valid, except that the warranty point is moot for people like myself that bought an HTC-branded TyTN without a warranty (because we went through third parties that weren't authorized to sell HTC product to end users).
John
johnburn said:
Can a lawyer (good, bad or otherwise) actually prove the letter came from HTC? Notice that it came from an Italian website. It is not on HTC's web sites, at least, I can't find it there.
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Well it has all the information needed from corporate paper - except date. I think that this is internal document prepared for later use. Date: Xx April, 2007 is the key. We have got many connection here with HTC - may somebody ask for authenticity?
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I have no doubt that HTC will eventually issue WM6 upgrades to some or all of its current devices and likely for free -- they'd be foolish if they didn't, seeing as everyone else is. I'd be astonished if it actually happened at the end of April (which year, they didn't say?) Their track record isn't very good in this regard (OK, its atrocious!). If this is true, then the only thing I can think of is that they have finally been beaten by the ROM cookers on this site and are doing this to attempt to regain control.
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As I read this document WM6 will come out no earlier then June.
johnburn said:
Your other points are valid, except that the warranty point is moot for people like myself that bought an HTC-branded TyTN without a warranty (because we went through third parties that weren't authorized to sell HTC product to end users).
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Well you can try everything, I do have warranty.
I couldn't follow the whole thread, but I guess that one reason WM6 will be released for the TyTN is the fact that many Mobile Operators are selling it with their own brand. Its "mini-notebook" design made it really perfect for office customers of service providers.
On the other hand, in example, HTC Trinity/P3600 which was only sold with HTC brand seems to be unsupported in the WM6 switch.
It's something more complex than a bone...
Is marketing strategy.
POINT A
WM6 is JUST a name, nice graphic and bug fixed enhanced DLLs, is a simple WM5.2 (marketing, to boost WM6 install)
WM6 NEEDS activesync 4.5 and AS4.5 doesn't work with office 2000, ME, NT, 98, and generally speaking is something LESS than 4.x releases (marketing, to improve office 2007 sales, 80% of users doesn't need nothing more than office 2000)
LESSON LEARNED
Is hard to say now WHY I HAVE TO USE VISTA lack of drivers, security improved? may be IMHO complexity is the only thing improved!
more WM6=more AS4.5= more office 2007= VISTA sales
POINT B
selling connected services and ....Windows update and live to be connected LIVE is the next strategy, VISTA could be will be the last OS fully developed from MS, It was really hard do deliver.
LESSON LEARNED
If your busines is selling the SAME SOFTWARE for years someday you discover you landed in a place were the market ends.
You can't improve much more... then people stops buying it!
POINT C
business market. Why Exchange ? to boost mobile integration .But I have Exchange 2003 already... HTML email, available ONLY with exchange server, and a lot of cooperation and security features availabe ONLY on 2007.
LESSON LEARNED
phone isn't a voice device anymore. Voice is expensive in terms of time/results. Mobile Data Communication and services are the next 10 years business, but from MS point of view is a business for partners (operators, other), thay aren't involved.
PHONE AND WM IN MS ARE LIKE MEN FOR SOME LADIES: THEY AREN'T THE FINAL PURPOSE, THEY ARE ONLY INSTRUMENTS TO HAVE SOMETHING (WIFE, MOTHER, FAMILY, MONEY/VISTA, OFFICE,EXCHANGE, LIVE SERVICES ) (sorry ladies, nothing personal, same example could be done for men)
WM6 WILL BE FOR FREE FOR EVERYONE I guess! as marriage: free and promishing at the beginning, hidden costs are discoved later
UPDATE:
I discovered how STUPID a Marketing Manager could be.
WM6 Standard has only word/excel editing AND NOT creating.
The 'Save As' dialogue in the Compact Framework is not implemented in Smartphone!!!! (As Paul from MODACO discovered http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252990)
A little utility and NEW Word and Excel documents are available.
While E. Coyote is in Microsoft, director of Windows Mobile BU?
hello
I was in the trip in England and bought a device of exit poll: vodafone compact iii ( vodafone1605 ) and when I returned to my national I live in Israel, i only used it for 29 days before it started playing up. everything on the handset worked perfectly but until the 29th day. it just wouldnt turn on anymore.(Of course that tried to upgrade the device without to examine if it cid-lock )
I approached the importer of HTC in my country and he told me that they are not repair in the device of vodafone these only of htc and because on me to turn to Vodafone.
To the something there is an idea I live in Israel and can't arrive at England what I can do?
Tried to do number 6 from here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem3
but the device is unwilling to work simple dead
Why don't you phone Vodafone UK and see what they suggest? They probably send the phones back to HTC for repair anyway so maybe they could arrange for you to send it to HTC directly.
Thanks for the attempt to help
yesterday I spoke with delegate vodafone uk on the phone +447836191191 In his words because must bring the device directly to them and it's impossible to send the device in the registered mail
There is an other solution because I will not mean to traveler soon to England
Try Vodafone Business Customer Services: +44 8700 746 464. As long as you tell them you use the phone for work purposes they will accept you as a business customer.
For me they always do a next day replacement of handset (by courier - with the courier picking up the old handset at the same time). Perhaps if you have a friend in the UK you can send your phone to them and then get Vodafone to send the courier to their address?