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Ok, so I've applied the SA TyTN 1.35 ROM with 1.18 radio and BL 1.09. I'm finding terrible battery life, and would like to return to the 1.20 radio.
I've downgraded to BL 1.04, and now I'm trying to apply a radio-only update.
Unfortunately, no matter which one I try, I end up with ERROR 114, and I'm still on radio 1.18.
Any ideas?
I get the same, but I tried while on BL 1.09 (even though I've got superCID now...)
I'm finding radio 1.18 alright though to be honest? What's your battery life like?
I'm in a strong UMTS area, and I have to say the 1.18 radio is by far the worst battery performance I have seen on my device to date. The 1.20 radio was by far the best... hope to get back there soon!
Update: I've returned to the 1.18 TyTN ROM, applied the SuperCID unlocker successfully (which apparently did not stick the last time I tried), and I'm now reapplying 1.35 update. Next steps will be to try 1.20 radio update directly, and then again after a bootloader downgrade...
Hoping for the best!
I have successfully done what you are looking to do. If you review the post that says downgrading any 1.06 bootloader to 1.04 and follow the instructions you will be able to downgrade just your bootloader and thus be able to upgrade radio only.
Success!!!
It wasn't easy, and it sure took a lot of cycles, but here's how I got my TyTN to the 1.20 radio rom and the SA TyTN 1.35 system rom:
- ran the bootloader downgrade utility and got back to BL 1.04
- ran the stock TyTN 1.18 ROM update
- ran pof's SIM unlocker to restore SuperCID status
- ran the TyTN 1.35 ROM update
- ran the bootloader downgrade utility and got back to BL 1.04
- ran the 1.20 radio-only update
And I'm back in business!
Now, let's see if I see the hoped-for improvements in the battery...
I had HORRIBLE battery life with the 1.20 radio rom, so I'm hoping the 1.35 will offer better battery life.
darkjedi said:
I had HORRIBLE battery life with the 1.20 radio rom, so I'm hoping the 1.35 will offer better battery life.
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Maybe it's a function of where you live / how strong your UMTS signal is, because 1.20 has been the hands-down best for me...
And after an initial 18 hours, it appears that being back on 1.20 radio with 1.35 ROM has solved my battery problem again
I'm actually having issues.
I have a Cingular 8525
I started with the :
1.34.502.1 09/21/06 ?? 1.16.00.00 32.53.7018.01H 14955.2.3.0 2.3 1.06
I down graded to:
1.30.502.1 08/21/06 ?? 1.11.00.00 32.47.7018.00H 14955.2.3.0 2.3 1.04
Unlocked, Made SuperCID, Verified it with mtty.
Then I upgraded to the:
1.35.255.2 11/14/06 1.35.255.102 1.18.00.10 32.55.7018.01H 14955.2.3.0 2.3 1.09
I want to do the same, upgrade my radio to 1.20.31.10
but the radio only rom won't run. Any ideas?
@BryanPDavis: You need bootloader 1.04 to flash a radio rom, HTC 1.35 rom has bootloader 1.09, so you need to downgrade your bootloader.
huh, I guess I was doing something wrong, after many attempts, it finally downgraded my bootloader. Thanks.
EDIT: Forgot to mention I tried doing exactly that over and over again with no luck. Working now tho, thanks.
For those wondering what's de difference between each radio version, I've compiled a table with all radio ROMs available for the Hermes from the info I could extract from the decoded radios.
Here comes an explanation of each field, some things are just my guess and others are unknown to me:
Radio: Shipped Radio version as shown on splash screen or device information under WM5.
Protocol: If it ends in W means it's WEDGE (WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE), if it ends in H means HEDGE (HSDPA/WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE).
KMRX: M6275B-KMRX version (don't ask me what is this!)... seems to be part of the protocol string.
HTC_BOOT: HTC Radio Bootloader version.
QC_BOOT: Qualcomm bootloader version.
DATE1: First date string found (1 time) - this is most probably the radio build date.
DATE2: Second date string found (6 times) - this seems to be the common base between radio's build date.
JNAND: QUALCOMM JNAND Version and build date of JNAND.ELF for MSM6275 SURF and FFA
I have the feeling that HTC_BOOT V1.0108 will be a pain in the ass
If someone can bring more information, it is welcome
Some more information
RADIO VERSION
The Qualcomm MSM6275 chipset is found on Hermes, Trinity and Breeze devices.
If radio version ends in "1" it means GPS is enabled in this radio, if it ends in "0" it means is disabled. Example:
Radio 1.21.31.10 ==> GPS is disabled
Radio 1.22.01.01 ==> GPS is enabled
To see NMEA data you can use the command "[email protected]" in GSM AT Command interpreter. To stop receiving NMEA data use "[email protected]". It is possible to flash a GPS enabled radio from Trinity on Hermes, but Hermes hardware seems to lack either the antenna or the RF amplifier (or both) and it is not possible to use the MSM6275 as internal GPS on Hermes. See related thread for more info on this.
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HTC_BOOT
This is the radio bootloader, do not confuse with normal bootloader (SPL).
Until now there are three radio bootloader versions found inside hermes radio (GSM.nb): 1.0106, 1.0107 and 1.0108
The last 4 digits of the radio bootloader version is returned by radio bootloader command "rversion".
These are the known differences between them:
1.0106 -- still has command 'rrbmc' to read back the memory content
1.0107 -- command 'rrbmc' does not work anymore, but it has been replaced by command 'rdpram' with the same syntax.
1.0108 -- this was first seen in Softbank X01HT post december 2nd devices (radio 1.14) and is also included in some trinity radios. The peculiarities of this radio bootloader version are explained here:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device, you can't use extracted radio ROMs: This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format (ie: full ROM upgrade).
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format, the radio will not be flashed unless your SPL version is 1.09.
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format with SPL-1.09 on your device, your radio will be changed to the radio contained in the NBH file, HOWEVER the radio bootloader will stay the same HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
The same, explained in other words:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (for example softbank x01ht 1.14 radio) and want to flash radio 1.21.31.10 on your device:
Upgrade your SPL to version 1.09, either by flashing a full rom containing SPL 1.09 or by flashing only this SPL with MFG bootloader.
Flash a full ROM containing 1.21.31.10 (or your desired) radio version, for example jasjam 1.31 rom. This will put radio 1.21.31.10 on your device, but HTC_BOOT will be 1.0108 even if the radio 1.21.31.10 has HTC_BOOT 1.0107.
Flash MFG bootloader again and flash extrom and OS "manually" from MFG.
Results after this:
Radio 1.21 will be back on your device, but HTC_BOOT 0108 will stay instead of being the original HTC_BOOT found on radio 1.21 (HTC_BOOT 0107). This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format.
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Recommendation:
Don't flash any HTC_BOOT 0108 radio on your deivce if you plan to test Trinity's GPS enabled radios on Hermes, because you'll loose the ability to flash radios in NBF.
There are 2 trinity GPS enabled radios:
- 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108
- 1.22 with HTC_BOOT 0107
If you want to test, flash the 1.22, otherwise when you flash a new full hermes ROM in NBH you will keep the HTC_BOOT 0108 and will never be able to flash a Trinity radio on Hermes again.
Uau! pof, this is a very interesting info. Did you translate it to the wiki?
Not yet, I'm still doing research on the radio and will be using this post to add my findings. When I think it's complete then will probably write the wiki page.
To pof:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom). If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
Thank you for your kindly reply first!
kamiru said:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
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All softbank X01HT post 2006-12-02 with ROM version 1.33.761.4 have:
- radio 1.14 with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (radio bootloader)
- SPL-1.09 (normal bootloader)
You can't check it because you need to access the radio bootloader for that, but the command to do this (rtask a) has been removed in SPL-1.09.
If you downgrade the SPL to 1.04, you can see it using radio bootloader command "rversion":
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
kamiru said:
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom).
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Yes, and after having unlocked your phone with imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b). Otherwise you will not be able to flash other full rom because SPL-1.09 will check your CID and give you the "invalid vender id" error all the time.
kamiru said:
If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
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You loose softbank warranty after doing it, that's the only downside.
flash without radio
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
trion said:
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
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I guess that too, as new trinity ROMs are coming out with that version.
trion said:
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
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Yes, using the 1.01 MFG bootloader.
trion said:
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
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You're right.
There is a new Radio-Rom in FTP-Uploads (1.27.0.0).Can anyone confirm, that is has 1.0107 ?
It has 0107, it's safe
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
Dear pof,
After I checked my device, I found it is 0108 version. But I think my device does not be hacked by imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b), since I used it before v4b release.
So whether I can upgrade to a full rom? After I upgrade it, whether I need to purchase the imei-check unlocker?? thank you for your kindly reply again.
@kamiru: If your device is SuperCID you can upgrade the radio in NBH format with bootloader 1.09, either by flashing a full rom or the 1.27 shipped radio we have now. If it's not SuperCID you'll need to purchase the imei-check unlocker.
Need SPL-1.09...
I used the HERMES Bootloader 1.01 MFG to check the HTC_boot on my x01ht, and it's 1.08.
So now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file? I only have the spl-1.04.nb and spl-1.01.nbs from the .zip.
Mike
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it.
sorry
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
or is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
Thanks
Superenchi said:
now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file?
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here.
apokryphus said:
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it?
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No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
walshieau said:
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
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Not sure, ask their support team
funks said:
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
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No, once HTC_BOOT 0108 is flashed on your device there is no known way to downgrade it, at the moment it will stick forever.
funks said:
is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
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0107 can be downgraded to 0106, but 0108 can't.
hokkeung said:
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
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here.
Dear POF,
Sorry to my poor English first. So,as you say,if HTC-bootloader upgrade to 1.08,I can still flashed other rom and radio with running full rom method?What I can not do is I can't downgrade the Radio Bootloader?Is that what you mean?Thanks for your help!!!
pof said:
here.
No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
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Sorry my fault, didn´t noticed that you´ve extracted it already till now i thought there were only 1.01.nbs and 1.04.nb as extractet bootloader-files.
cant downgrade to bl 1.04 from 1.09
i have imate jasjam
rom hermes 1.35
radio 1.18
i want upgrade to radio 1.27
I can think of 2 ways to do this.
The first way requires that you have already made your Hermes SuperCID. Essentially, you flash the 1.01MFG bootloader then use that to flash the 1.04 Bootloader. Once complete, you'll be able to upgrade your radio. See the 1.01MFG bootloader thread for files/howto. I believe its all in the Wiki too.
If you are not SuperCID, then you must find the bootleg 1.04 bootloader flash solution to upgrade your radio.
sam2000 said:
cant downgrade to bl 1.04 from 1.09
i have imate jasjam
rom hermes 1.35
radio 1.18
i want upgrade to radio 1.27
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Check your PM
By all means, take the time to SuperCID your device using pof's solution once you're on BL1.04 sam2000
i try many time to flash the 1.04 Bootloader by flash the 1.01MFG bootloader
and evry time error
can you tell me mr Sleuth255 how can downgrade from 1.09 to 1.04 stps by steps
thanks for you
If you are not SuperCID then you cannot succeed until you obtain the bootleg 1.04 downgrade solution. We do not host that here as it contains proprietary IMEI_check code.
However, from you first post it appears that you may be SuperCID since you are running the SA 1.35 TyTN ROM on a JasJam device. If that is the case, you can simply flash the RUU radio upgrade RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe.
edit:
to your question: the key to flashing the 1.04BL from the 1.01MFG bootloader is the version of mtty you are using. If you are trying to follow the instructions using a version of mtty that has the default "MFC" icon, then it won't work. You must use the version of mtty included in the 1.01mfg bootloader download.
my device SuperCID
Best option is to upgrade radio using RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe then.
How to downgrade from BL 1.09 to 1.04
sam2000 said:
cant downgrade to bl 1.04 from 1.09
i have imate jasjam
rom hermes 1.35
radio 1.18
i want upgrade to radio 1.27
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I had the same problem and I solve it with this link http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/Downgrade_SPL.zip (read the instruction)now is only one way.
I have O2 XDA Trion (TYTN)
with bootloader v1.09 and now v1.04!!!!
slob13 said:
I had the same problem and I solve it with this link http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/Downgrade_SPL.zip (read the instruction)now is only one way.
I have O2 XDA Trion (TYTN)
with bootloader v1.09 and now v1.04!!!!
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Dead Link!
The bootleg 1.04 bootloader solution is actively pursued by IMEI-check. It never surfaces for very long....
However, sam2000 doesn't need this since he is already SuperCID. The 1.01MFG bootloader solution can get him to 1.04BL.
Hi...
I've this problem where my friend's Dopod 838 Pro has its flashed crash at 14% and now its Bootloader is 1.09. Its giving the NO GSM error but I cannot seem to downgrade the bootloader because its CID is also corrupted. It doesn't even accept the generic Dopod ROM upgrade!
Anyone one help?
I've used this method several times and it worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
holy hell.. it works.. apparently that M3100v3cUnlock **** does something wonderful...
thanks patmannyc
finally i upgrade to RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe but bootlodr stil 1.09
thanks for every body
I've been reading alot around here about upgrading roms. But I am still confused between these two things. Mine has the radio version of 1.16. But I have no idea what radio BL version it is.
I am afraid to upgrade without understanding this. Because from what I've read, I do not want radio BL of 1.08.
Could someone please explain this?
Hi
You'll find this info in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
HTC Boot is the radio bootloader so you have 0107. Radios with 0108 are the ones to watch out for since flashing this means that you will no longer be able to flash radio (or other) updates on their own afterwards. HTC Boot is flashed when you flash a new radio rom. Additionally, to have any radio rom flashed successfully once you have HTCBoot 0108, your SPL (system bootloader) needs to be 1.09 otherwise the radio does not get flashed.
The latest HTCBoot0107 radio is 1.27
Regards
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
You'll find this info in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
HTC Boot is the radio bootloader so you have 0107. Radios with 0108 are the ones to watch out for since flashing this means that you will no longer be able to flash radio (or other) updates on their own afterwards. HTC Boot is flashed when you flash a new radio rom. Additionally, to have any radio rom flashed successfully once you have HTCBoot 0108, your SPL (system bootloader) needs to be 1.09 otherwise the radio does not get flashed.
The latest HTCBoot0107 radio is 1.27
Regards
Nigel
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Isn't it possible though to do NBH/ROMupgradeUT radio only updates using SSPL with Radio BL 0107 or 0108?
Edit: I made Radio Only NBH/ROMupgradeUT 1.33.31.00 RBL 108. Using SSPL on device works fine to upgrade my radio. NBH Radio Upgrade Only 1.33.31.00 Run SSPL FIRST
I had radio bl 0108 before trying this so it works this way. There is no way to downgrade radio bl, but it really doesn't matter sine this method works to upgrade or downgrade radio rom.
Hello,
I have a SPV M3100 and I upgraded to WM6. I flashed the spl and radio and followed the upgrade guide...
I want to put back my old spl and radio so I can send it back to Orange.
Before I had:
SPL: 1.04
Radio: 1.06.00.00
OS: Orange UK ROM
Now I have:
SPL: 1.40olipro
Radio: 1.38
OS: Orange UK ROM
The Orange UK ROM I used was the Reconstructed one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=278060&page=3
Stupidly, to put back everything I flashed spl 1.10.oli then flashed the full ROM but kept getting noGSM and then getting stuck in boot.
To get it working I had to upgrade to spl 1.40olipro again and flash radio 1.38...
I then extracted the radio from the ROM (as its the one I need) and tried flashing it with that but still had same noGSM error.
How can I get 1.06.00.00??? on the WIKI 1.06 is unavailable (which is why I extracted it from the ROM)
In the 'Standard Method' here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
it says... "Your device MUST be running bootloader version 1.04 to upgrade the radio with these:"
Can anyone advice me on this??? I do need SPL1.04 anyway as thats what orange shipped with my phone...
I dont know where to get SPL1.04 and is it correct that radio 1.06 can only be flashed on SPL1.04 and thats why im getting noGSM when I do it???
Thanks Everyone, these forums are great, after thinking I bricked my phone yesturday (flashing the full UK Orange ROM) and getting noGSM it is now fixed
P.S.
If I trust the stuff in the Full Orange ROM I used.... I extracted the SPL too which says its 1.04.
I want to try flashing SPL 1.04 first then the radio, but been advised not to? Everyone says flash SPL last! But I dont see how if it says: "Your device MUST be running bootloader version 1.04 to upgrade the radio with these:"
The problem you are having is that radio 1.38.x.x will have flashed the updated Radio bootloader to HTC_BOOT 108.
Reflashing 1.06.0.0 will not downgrade the bootloader to the required 107, and afaik there currently is no way to downgrade the radio BL.
You should still be able to use the Orange ROM with the updated radio, and if you have to do a orange warranty call, it's unlikely they will complain.
@dlfranks: Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755&?p=1217676&postcount=1007
@oliber: he's wanting to go to a radio with htc_boot 0106, probably that's not possible when you've already flashed 0108. I never tried this, but it seems that two users are having the same issue, so probably once you have 0108 you can only downgrade to radios with 0107 (but keeping 0108 on your phone, that is).
thanks
thanks guys, that makes sense. I think ill try the other radio. basicly i have only had it a few days and want to try a difo phone, there happy to swap it in the first 7 days... i just dont want them complaining i messed around with it...
want to make it look as much untampered with as poss!!
at least i got the orange rom on there, it looks good.
if i get the radio to the lowest one i can, how do i go about getting spl1.04 back on my phone. i have read the hard spl threads but cant work it out. i have 1.40olipro. do i downgrade to 1.10.oli then to 1.04? or to 1.06 then 1.04. what order?
I extracted the spl1.04 rom the orange rom i used...
thanks for your help again
dlfranks said:
how do i go about getting spl1.04 back on my phone. i have read the hard spl threads but cant work it out. i have 1.40olipro. do i downgrade to 1.10.oli then to 1.04? or to 1.06 then 1.04. what order?
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first flash HardSPL-1.10, then flash 1.04. Never go to 1.06.