Hi ,
while I had upgrading only radio to 1.38 the process has interrupted
I had removed the battery and the tytn start but at boot no gms appears instead the radio version then it freezes on windows startup.
I need to reflash the radio firmware but I can do that from active sync.
i have bl 1.04 can anyone help me?
thank you very much
have you install Hard-SPL ?
Ah the curse strikes again... get reading here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
Though post #467 may be of particular interest to you.
sorry for the delay in my response.
i have tried to read all the post about bricked tytn.
Then I have tried to use the kilt methid but my device show a blank screen after the attach. I wait more than 30 minutes after that but without result, so I think this way is not good for me.
Anyway I have use the hard spl 1,10 for the radio upgrade.
I can boot in bootloader spl 1.04 so I hope this a good thing
any ideas?
Thanks
juggero said:
sorry for the delay in my response.
i have tried to read all the post about bricked tytn.
Then I have tried to use the kilt methid but my device show a blank screen after the attach. I wait more than 30 minutes after that but without result, so I think this way is not good for me.
Anyway I have use the hard spl 1,10 for the radio upgrade.
I can boot in bootloader spl 1.04 so I hope this a good thing
any ideas?
Thanks
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yeah, get a regular RUU for your device, an *official* one and update with it.
if you have SPL 1.10.Oli already flashed on the phone, there is something better we can do... but clearly it sounds like you haven't
Olipro said:
yeah, get a regular RUU for your device, an *official* one and update with it.
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will not work, 'cos he has SPL 1.04 and htc_boot 0108 (as he was flashing 1.38 radio), so he needs 1.09 to reflash the radio.
I'm closing this thread, as I see juggero has already posted in the right place.
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can this be accomplished? yes i have downgraded to 1.04 then sim/cid unlocked my phone.. i tried different things but couldnt make it happen, the closest i got is where the screen and phone would show its loading but would only sit at 0% for about 5 minutes then error out...
also is it normal to have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.06? its been like that ever since i got my phone from cingular.. sorry if its a dumb question but i am coming from the wizard where things are a little bit different
i believe you still have bootloader 1.06 if your spl says 1.06.
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Frequently Asked Questions:
Q - How do I know my bootloader version?
A - When you are on the tri-color screen check the number after SPL-X.XX
Q - How do I downgrade to bootloader 1.04?
A - See this comment. I'm working on an altnative method for all devices, but it's not ready yet.
Q - What is the CID and how do I check which one I have?
A - See this comment.
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you need bootloader 1.04 if you want to do the radio upgrade only.
i guess my post wasnt clear on what i was attempting, i sometimes dont think straight but go on weird tangents... let me try this a different way.. yes i can flash it on 1.04, but has anyone found a way to modify the radio update utility to flash it on 1.06 and higher? thats what i had no success doing...
ok guys and girls. I just put in a request to have my phone replaced because of screen issues. I have SuperCID unlocked my phone, and have the XDA live running on it right now with radio version 1.27. What do i need to do to make it looked like the phone has never been messed with?
I just don't want them to call me back and give me @#$% about it.
Thanx for the help.
how about flash the rom it came with
You can flash the original ROM version and language. But the SuperCID stays. Unlikely that they'd spot this unless they examine the phone deeply.
I sent a SuperCID'ed and SIM unlocked Cingular 8125 in for replacement about 7 months ago and it was replaced without question. I know they're different devices, but that's my experience.
k thanx for the help guys
hey im sending my device in with screen issues as well, and i have the 1.34 radio is there any way to get it back to the 1.16 radio it came with. i tried to flash it back but it never starts upgrading
I handed in my bricked JASJAM a couple of days ago for "warranty repair". No word yet whether the warranty will cover this or I will have to pay the MB swap.
SSPL Tool will work for this.
koolhand79 said:
hey im sending my device in with screen issues as well, and i have the 1.34 radio is there any way to get it back to the 1.16 radio it came with. i tried to flash it back but it never starts upgrading
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You should not have to worry about the CID, but it might be better if you flash the old ROM and radio. SSPL is the way to go if you can't flash it back to what is was.
Yeah, hopefully SuperCID isn't a problem, but it would be nice to have a way to reverse it some time in the future, especially now that Des's SSPL makes it redundant for most people.
abubasim said:
I handed in my bricked JASJAM a couple of days ago for "warranty repair". No word yet whether the warranty will cover this or I will have to pay the MB swap.
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How much do you think that it will cost to replace the mother board?
kyphur said:
SSPL Tool will work for this.
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i tried the SSPL tool with this and still nothing. i get the BL screen with the SSPL and 1.09.ds but it never starts to upgrade the radio. it just sits at 0%
koolhand79 said:
i tried the SSPL tool with this and still nothing. i get the BL screen with the SSPL and 1.09.ds but it never starts to upgrade the radio. it just sits at 0%
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Des SSPL uses spl 1.09 which does not have 'rtask' command, so you must use a radio upgrade in NBH format, not in NBF as you're probably using now.
koolhand79 said:
i tried the SSPL tool with this and still nothing. i get the BL screen with the SSPL and 1.09.ds but it never starts to upgrade the radio. it just sits at 0%
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When I updated my radio today (for the first time), mine sat at 0% for about 2.5 minutes before moving directly to 4%, and eventual success. Are you sure you're waiting long enough?
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Des SSPL uses spl 1.09 which does not have 'rtask' command, so you must use a radio upgrade in NBH format, not in NBF as you're probably using now.
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ok i am using the nbf and not the nbh. any advice on how to get this radio in nbh. i have searched the WIKI and maybe im missing something. if so just point me in the right direction. thanx
RabanJr said:
How much do you think that it will cost to replace the mother board?
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The price seems to vary a bit depending on the country. A couple of guys on the dead hermes thread have done it. This post shows that the prices charged by HTC America and HTC Europe vary significantly.
just to ask, if i use the aku 2.3, radio 1.16 rom full update from the wiki site, will it change everything back for me or will i have to use the sspl program? I just want to make it look like verything is fine.
What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
take the .nbh form the 1.34 cingular package and use RUU to flash the device.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
This has been covered before...
But, since you're well on your way to brick-ville, I'll buy your phone off you for, say, $100? It'll be worth less after you brick it...
Read up on the W*I*K*I and Oli's 1.40.Olipro bootloader before you do something dumb.
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
spicer said:
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
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From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
Flash to hardSPL-v6
Fash Radio to 1.16
flash OS i get out of the 1.134 package. (the os.nb file i believe it is named)
last flash the boot loader.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
LegolasTheElf said:
From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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I really appreciate the feedback. At least you're letting me know my plan wont work. Which will prevent me from trying it. But it would be kick ass if you could be more specific about what in the wiki i missed like :
-you can't flash the entire .nbh file cause it will try to replace your boot load and break it.
or
- Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL because *something useful here*
Either way I'm still thankful cause I know my plan is a **** sandwich.
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
Thank MAn!!! That kicks ass.
I need to send my phone back because the radio dies every 5 mintes.
So I want to get it as close to factory as possible.
So after I downgrade the BL i won't be doing anymore flashing to that phone.
Sometimes when I soft reset the phone is says "No GSM" even when sim is there. Soft reset it again and the radio is detected.
Very irritating.
Check out:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
F-ya! That last part about down grading the BL is the part I was having trouble pinning down.
One last question:
Can I use the cingular NBH or will it try to flash the RBL and crash because you can't down grade the RBL
the the new mrvanx page is dope. found the donwgrade guide.
Bricked using this method
pof said:
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
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Pof,
I did it this way but after flashing the radio rom I get no GSM and then I'm stuck in the Windows Mobile Screen.
I have looked in the Wiki but how can I actually unbrick?
My SPL is still 1.40 Oli. But I can't get activesync to work.
Should I flash the new radio via SD card or any other way (mtty?)
I would be very gratefull for any help,
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. Found a solution; http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
I will try to do this trick.
Thanks
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
pof said:
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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Pof,
One question, Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
Or otherwise?
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
hellejoep said:
Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
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no
hellejoep said:
How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
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Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
pof said:
Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
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Done that but then I get a Error 260.....
Any suggestions?
Or is there a way to bypass this? I have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.40 Olipro.
I now got a Connection Error 264 but the bootloader gives usb and I can reach the hermes bij MTTY.exe.....
What is going wrong?
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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It worked, cheers!!!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
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@LegolasTheElf,
This was great example on how to get people to read the wiki. I like your approach and I will try to use it in the future.
well... that current NBH will brick any Hard-SPL device since it will overwrite the IPL. I have 1.50 which I have given to ToddJG; this new version prevents the IPL being overwritten, so as long as you don't flash using SSPL, you would be safe.
is there any actual demand for it?
Oli are you refering to the NBH on "Full WM6 Pro. from Dopod (Test rom)"?
I am using SPL 1.50 Olipro - it works great.
Whether there is demand or not, I think you should disable IPL flashing in the flasher and then (assuming you feel like it) release an expert version (or maybe just an expert mode?) that will allow you to flash IPL. Even that I guess isn't even needed because we could just SSPL an upgraded IPL if we ever need to (right?)
To my (limited) knowledge, there is currently not any real reason to upgrade your IPL and if there are NBH's out there that are going to brick devices, I think it would be best to limit newbies abilitys to brick their devices (which hopefully means less aggrevation for you!)
Package HardSPL-1.50 with IPL-1.03 on a single NBH and publish it
I actually got stuck in BL mode when I tried to flash IPL 1.03 with SPL 1.40.Olipro installed and using Hard-SPL to flash. set 14 0 doesn't work anymore. I had to re-flash the OS to get it to work again.. A real ****ter as I had just finished setting it up nicely and didn't have a backup
Anyways, just to let you know....
I think that bocking IPL flashing would be a good thing. Like it was said earlier I would release it if it could stop users from bricking devices. I have been very happy with your contribution. It has saved me twice now. My little rug rats have pulled out the usb cable on my laptop to pda connection twice. If it had not been for you tool I would have a great paper wieght.
Thanks again.
Erik
LegolasTheElf said:
I actually got stuck in BL mode when I tried to flash IPL 1.03 with SPL 1.40.Olipro installed and using Hard-SPL to flash. set 14 0 doesn't work anymore. I had to re-flash the OS to get it to work again..
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when this happens, you can just flash a splash screen to get it working again
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when this happens, you can just flash a splash screen to get it working again
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Actually, I tried that.. It refused to work. Flashing the OS was the ONLY thing it would do.. It was odd. I tried to flash SPL again, it failed with a communication error. IPL again, the same. Splash screen, ditto. OS worked.
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Actually, I tried that.. It refused to work. Flashing the OS was the ONLY thing it would do.. It was odd. I tried to flash SPL again, it failed with a communication error. IPL again, the same. Splash screen, ditto. OS worked.
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OK, A NEW SPL WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY: SPL-2.10 - BASED ON A NEW HTC SPL, 2.02
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
Click on the mrvanx guide at the bottom of my signature, it will tell you how to downgrade in the guides.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have been there mrvanx guide. but he don't have the solution to this problem. Just to downgrade the rom to wm5 not the SPL.
mysharif i think we have to shout again.
Help us anybody there we are stuck here.
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
You are great. I hope it will work for my Imate JasJam. Last night I was flashing my ROM with the original ROM but modified with NBH decomplie too by dutty. Before that I wrecked my device as I used the flashing of ROM using the latest sensation of loading the SSPL to RAM by des. That was my mistake that I used the original ROM. Then I removed the USB cable as it was taking too much time and because of danger to my imate I did that. Anyhow I got the NO GSM error but then I ran the Dutty's WM6v2 cooked ROM and it fixes all the things I am using it now.
The reason for my Imate JasJam degrade is my jog is not working according to its function. You know jumping from field to field. I didn't found any of that problem solution till the page of 30 in threads and posts. I am searching but if anybody knows the link. Kindly help me. So that I will save a trip to see the warranty people. (here we don't have ladies receptionists )
Sorry for the stupid question, how do I downgrade from Oli 2.10 to Oli 1.10
Il write a guide on it...too many PMs about this.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
aquasesh said:
I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
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Ofcourse...because flashing an original RUU it doesnt recognise the new bootloader (Hence your 260 error), and HArdSPL doesnt allow itself to be overwritten by a retail RUU. IF you read through the HArdSPL threads you would know this.
mrvanx said:
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Just flash SPL 1.10.oli.......................then flash a vodaphone ROM, dont use 'force SSPL', just use autodetect.
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
yea your right I just wanted to reduce your work load.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
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Hi mrvanx, some input to go into your guide (in case you havent come across this yet).
While flashing 1.10Oli under Vista, users may run into a problem where after loading SSPL and the phone goes into (SSPL) bootloader mode, the RUU program cannot detect the phone and returns an error.
This is due to the Vista drivers for HTC USB Sync. The driver needs to be manually "updated" just like in your Vista flashing guide. In this case, while the phone is in SSPL bootloader mode, go into device manager, replace the default HTC USB Sync driver with the USBAS one from your Vista flashing guide.
Then soft reset the phone, and try again. Worked for me.
For some reason, SSPL bootloader may appear as a different device to Windows than the hard/standard bootloader, so even if the Vista procedure has been performed before, it looks like it needs to be done also for SSPL.