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Although all the information can be found on the forum and in the HTC Hermes Wiki there are always many posts with questions about upgrading and unlocking. I hope this will make it a bit clearer for you:
Bootloader
The bootloader is the place where you can change the low-level software parameters and some hardware parameters of the Hermes, change and read the ROM and provides information about it.
The bootloader is invoked by pressing down both the POWER button and SIDE OK together and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the bottom.
The bootloader version is shown for a short amount of time when booting the device. You'll see "SPL-1.0X"
Versions
1.04
There is a bug in bootloader 1.04 wich allows you to flash any ROM without a CID check. You have to be in bootloader mode to use this bug.
It's possible to upgrade the RadioROM. You can even flash a patched RadioROM wich is needed to unlock your device.
1.06
The bug from version 1.04 is fixed. Without downgrading to a Shipped ROM with bootloader 1.04 that matches your CID it's not possible to flash a ROM with a different CID.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
1.09
You can't downgrade to bootloader 1.04 by flashing a Shipped ROM. However imei-check.co.uk is able to downgrade the bootloader.
There was a solution posted on this forum, but it was stolen from imei-check and was removed. If you are not willing to pay you have to wait until another solution is developed.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
CID
The CID your device has varies from operater to operater. It should garantee that only upgrades from a single operater can be installed (to ensure the device is branded etc.)
You can make your device SuperCID wich is some kind of "root-mode". Then you will be able to flash every ROM without thinking about bootloader versions and CIDs.
To find out wich CID your device has use the command "info 2" in bootloader. Read Hermes_BootLoader to know how to use the bootloader.
Preparations
Before you upgrade your ROM (wich will also upgrade your bootloader) you should make your device SuperCID.
Especially if you either upgrade to bootloader 1.06 and there's no Shipped ROM Upgrade with bootloader 1.04 available that matches your CID or upgrade to bootloader 1.09
Unlock / Make your device SuperCID
Use pof's SIM Unlock v2a. This will flash a patched RadioROM that is needed for the unlocking process. Unlock v2a makes your device SuperCID and removes the SIM-Lock.
You need bootloader version 1.04!
The process of flashing the RadioROM and use the unlocker is explained here
There is one restriction: At the moment it's not possible to unlock X01HT devices wich where bought after 12/1/2006 and have bootloader version 1.09 and RadioROM version 1.14.0.10! Please be patient.
Radio version can be checked from Start->Settings->System->Device Information:Radio Version.
Downgrade Bootloader
If you have bootloader version 1.06 and there is a Shipped ROM Upgrade with bootloader version 1.04 available that matches your CID you can flash it to downgrade your bootloader.
Otherwise - you are on bootloader 1.09 or there is no Shipped ROM Upgrade available - you have to use imei-check.co.uk or wait until another (free) solution is developed.
For the method imei-check uses to downgrade the bootloader a working operating system is required.
Upgrade the ROM
If you flash a ROM the first time you should read Upgrade For Beginners and the Upgrade FAQ if you have further questions.
Available Upgrades are listed here
Upgrade RadioROM
There are also Extracted RadioROMs available. You need bootloader 1.04 to flash these!
good summary sn00x. you should post this on the wiki as well.
tthank u very much for the information. it is a bit clearer for me now
Excellent summary for the beginner! Vielen Dank!
Please also read Quentin-'s Hermes Upgrading Guide for a detailed description of the upgrade process and information about ExtendedROM cooking.
it should be posted in the wiki
cristal clear now.... I had posted a question in another thread and read a lot of forums without success. Now I know for sure that have to wait... any ideas on how much time.. thanks for all the help!!!
Super CID
When one upgrades a Radio ROM is it necessary to go back and make the device Super CID again, or is it sticky.
The reason for this question is that I down graded to bl 1.04, made my device Super CID as it was never simlocked, and then upgraded my Radio to 1.27. My device returned a QTEK code, so I just ran Super CID again. It now again displays Super CID.
Is that the way it works?
Thanks for your posting - it certainly has taught me a lot!
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
Thanks again pof
pof said:
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
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Thanks pof for that information. That's what I figured out so I reflashed the patched radio,reran Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe and then flashed the 1.27 radio.
Just to be sure I reran the Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe.
I guess that should be OK
Has this been put into the wiki? Someone please do the honours and report back with a roger wilco.
V
bl1.04
Gentlemen,
Quentin wrote:
"Even with the Super CID hack you cannot install a different radio
if your ROM installed BootLoader 1.06 or greater."
If my current machine state is
1. "Sticky" superCID has been accomplished.
2. Task 32 verifies the device is in superCID mode.
3. Bootloader page displays 1.04
does it stay that way for good regardless of what I flash? If I flash a rom which carries bl1.09 what is the bootloader version going to read on the device at the completion of the flash process?
If I make this simple and go buy a IMEI-check unlock to superCID my bl1.09 system will the bootloader page change to read bl1.04 and will it stay that way regardless of what I flash?
Is bl1.04 going to stay put with subsiquent rom loads?
Thanks
pof said:
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
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Hi, I am quite new with all this things. I just upgraded my radio to 1.27.00.00, does it mean, that my phone is CID locked again (I unlocked it together with SIM unlock).
How do I find oud, whther the phone is SuperCID or not. Thnax a lot
zzzp said:
Hi, I am quite new with all this things. I just upgraded my radio to 1.27.00.00, does it mean, that my phone is CID locked again (I unlocked it together with SIM unlock).
How do I find oud, whther the phone is SuperCID or not. Thnax a lot
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Read the WIKI first... it tells you to issue 'info 2' command in bootloader.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Seriously, if you've CID unlocked and radio flashed your Hermes without reading this far you're probably going to brick your phone sometime soon, so it'll pay to do some more reading before you play too much more.
1.04 vs 1.06 vs 1.09
I've been "burning eyelashes" for the last few days, my Firefox tabs seems like a huge cargo train
One thing i never could understand of all the readings i've made is about the functional advantages on the various bootloaders . Let me explain:
I know 1.04 is the only one that allows radio-only flashes but let's forget all flashing. Let's concentrate on everyday's use.
Does anyone know if 1.06 and 1.09 will make the PDA run better? I mean, if there's a newer ROM that brings bug corrections and new features so i guess that's the same for bootloaders. In this line of thinking 1.09 should do something better than 1.04. If so what is it?
Why i'm making this question? It's because everyone wants to have the best software version for himself uses, so i don't understand why people improve on ROM's, ExtROM and radios but keep a lower version of the bootloader after flashing. Aren't they missing something using 1.04 instead of 1.09?
I have my TyTN only for a week now and i'm looking forward to do things right by reading all that i need to know. So far this is the question that i haven't seen answered.
Cheers everyone,
Evandro
Well...I'm no expert but I'd imagine that you're venturing down the wrong path. I would venture a guess that many of the bootloader revisions have been made solely to enforce increased security or to attempt to prevent hacking or modding of the underlying OS and Radio ROMs.
That was a really great summary and guide. Unfortunately from all the threads and Wikis I have been reading I feel like alot has been changing very fast and I don't fully understand. This guide was great, and I was wondering if the author or anyone else (there are a bunch of guys on here who really know what they are doing) could write an updated (mabey even more detailed/technical) version. I know how to do all the flashing and stuff, but I'm not so confident I know how it's all working, especially the more recent stuff. Mabey including how stuff like the SSPL, hard SPL, mtty, KITL, nbh/nbs, and other more technical methods being used now other than the standard RUUs.
I know almost all of this info is in the forums and the wikis, but it's a little rough to grasp it all when not together. I hope this doesn't upset anyone, I just figured Quentin was gracious enough to do it once mabey he or someone else would want to do it again. If it's too much to ask then just ignore my request. I have been reading the forums for a few months now and think you guys are doing amazing work. You have improved in weeks what it takes MS to build in years and you do it much better. Thank to all and sorry again if I offended anyone by asking this (just really scared to brick my really expensive phone ...lol)
Thanks
Bootloader 1.09 ... no problem!
sn00x said:
Bootloader
Versions
1.04
There is a bug in bootloader 1.04 wich allows you to flash any ROM without a CID check. You have to be in bootloader mode to use this bug.
It's possible to upgrade the RadioROM. You can even flash a patched RadioROM wich is needed to unlock your device.
[*]1.06
The bug from version 1.04 is fixed. Without downgrading to a Shipped ROM with bootloader 1.04 that matches your CID it's not possible to flash a ROM with a different CID.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
[*]1.09
You can't downgrade to bootloader 1.04 by flashing a Shipped ROM. However imei-check.co.uk is able to downgrade the bootloader.
There was a solution posted on this forum, but it was stolen from imei-check and was removed. If you are not willing to pay you have to wait until another solution is developed.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
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I think first pages should be updated since the issue regarding 1.09 has been resolved here by the great pof:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Regards
good job..
PLZ PLZ
dont tell me to read about it cause the forum is to help people and to talk
i tried to upgrade my radio to 1.20 and when it finish it say error 114
i made reset and nothing i tried many times and nothing.
i have now the new 1.35 rom from HTC
the boot loader is 1.09
but before i put this version i crack my version and make it super CID
so why i cant upgrade the radio?????
What is written 2 times in bold in this page?????
bubu23 said:
PLZ PLZ
dont tell me to read about it cause the forum is to help people and to talk
i tried to upgrade my radio to 1.20 and when it finish it say error 114
i made reset and nothing i tried many times and nothing.
i have now the new 1.35 rom from HTC
the boot loader is 1.09
but before i put this version i crack my version and make it super CID
so why i cant upgrade the radio?????
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
You need to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 to run the radio only upgrade. If you still have the bootloader 1.09 running on your device, the radio only upgrade will fail.
If your bootloader version is 1.09, you can buy the Imei-check unlocker to have bootloader 1.04. The HTC Hermes unlocker from imei-check is able to flash the 1.04 bootloader. It transfers the required files to the Hermes via ActiveSync before actually the unlocking key file with your IMEI is requested. The bootloader is flashed on the device after you enter the valid key file (you have to pay for that).
I SEE THAT IF I WANT TO CHANGE BACK TO 1.04 I NEED TO
upgrate to other version of HTC 1.04 then ill do every thing
bubu23 said:
I SEE THAT IF I WANT TO CHANGE BACK TO 1.04 I NEED TO
upgrate to other version of HTC 1.04 then ill do every thing
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No, you still don't understand.
That method is only valid if your bootloader version is 1.06, if your bootloader version is 1.09, you can't downgrade because 1.09 will not allow to be "upgraded" to a lower version.
You should spend some time reading the wiki, otherwise you'll end up asking those pointless questions and will waste another 10's of hours or even days of your time asking those questions.
harryk1372 said:
No, you still don't understand.
That method is only valid if your bootloader version is 1.06, if your bootloader version is 1.09, you can't downgrade because 1.09 will not allow to be "upgraded" to a lower version.
You should spend some time reading the wiki, otherwise you'll end up asking those pointless questions and will waste another 10's of hours or even days of your time asking those questions.
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That ins't right.
I made de upgrade ro 1.35 ROM
Then i have bootloader 1.09, so i do the downgrade on bootloader with the *TOOL*, then i'm able to patch the 1.20 radio.
Actually i have:
Rom 1.35
Radio 1.20
Bootloader 1.04
So it's possible, but read is very necessary :S
Panda_N_Shark said:
That ins't right.
I made de upgrade ro 1.35 ROM
Then i have bootloader 1.09, so i do the downgrade on bootloader with the *TOOL*, then i'm able to patch the 1.20 radio.
Actually i have:
Rom 1.35
Radio 1.20
Bootloader 1.04
So it's possible, but read is very necessary :S
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well, that's only when you can get that tool thing from elsewhere, mate. not officially provided here in this forum.
Because it is paid, try find it on google or go to imei-check.co.uk
Panda_N_Shark said:
Because it is paid, try find it on google or go to imei-check.co.uk
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then, that's what i already said in the above post #3.
harryk1372 said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
You need to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 to run the radio only upgrade. If you still have the bootloader 1.09 running on your device, the radio only upgrade will fail.
If your bootloader version is 1.09, you can buy the Imei-check unlocker to have bootloader 1.04. The HTC Hermes unlocker from imei-check is able to flash the 1.04 bootloader. It transfers the required files to the Hermes via ActiveSync before actually the unlocking key file with your IMEI is requested. The bootloader is flashed on the device after you enter the valid key file (you have to pay for that).
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Any ideas? I tried searching the forum already but i can't get a it?
Start in bootloader mode, download mtty.exe and start it, connect via USB.
Then type "info 2" - without the quotes.
All info here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader
HmmmI`ve got this message:
HTCS11111111ĐŻ©îHTCEUSB
so it is locked or unlocked?..I have the SPL-1.04 and the Orange rom but have managed to installed the 1.27.00 radio rom withouth problems...but now I want to update the ROM with the SA one...
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. In the case it is not unlocked could I use the poh unlocker again?
Pc78 said:
HmmmI`ve got this message:
HTCS11111111ĐŻ©îHTCEUSB
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This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
hmmm.....
I have message HTCSuperCid..... is this ok? Only problem is that i'm stuck on 1.18 radio and i can't upgrade to any other version... When i want to upgrade i have error message but not after 10+ minutes, i've got it after minute or two
Bootloader is 1.09
please help
pof said:
This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
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Thx pof!...I was just on the way to write you a PM but you were quicker
Regards,
Primoz
franula said:
hmmm.....
I have message HTCSuperCid..... is this ok?
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Yes this is OK too.
franula said:
Only problem is that i'm stuck on 1.18 radio and i can't upgrade to any other version... When i want to upgrade i have error message but not after 10+ minutes, i've got it after minute or two
Bootloader is 1.09
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Read: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
BTW, you will be able to use shipped 1.27 radio.
so when we get a message from info 2 that has HTCSuperCID in it then were safe to do whatever right?
@pof
I tried to upgrade to 1.27 radio and i have same problem
madmattco said:
so when we get a message from info 2 that has HTCSuperCID in it then were safe to do whatever right?
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Yes, once it is SuperCID you are able to flash any shipped ROM in NBH format.
franula said:
I tried to upgrade to 1.27 radio and i have same problem
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please READ: to flash an exctracted radio you need bootloader 1.04, your bootloader is 1.09. The radio 1.27 is offered in two different formats: shipped (NBH) file which you will be able to flash and extracted (NBF) file which you will not be able to flash unless you downgrade your bootloader to 1.04.
@pof (hi again LOL!)
From what ive read (see my sig am on 1.09) i cant use these upgraded radio ROMs, but if im not really having any unwanted issues is it even worth trying to downgrade to 1.04??
More to the point (im most probably wrong but...) to downgrade to 1.04 i must flash a different ROM, im happy with the HTC south Africa one?!?
mrvanx said:
From what ive read (see my sig am on 1.09) i cant use these upgraded radio ROMs, but if im not really having any unwanted issues is it even worth trying to downgrade to 1.04??
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If you are happy with the 1.18 radio, and don't need to access the radio bootloader or AT command interpreter, you can keep 1.09 bootloader without problems. There's no difference in day-to-day use of the Hermes as a PDA/mobile.
mrvanx said:
More to the point (im most probably wrong but...) to downgrade to 1.04 i must flash a different ROM, im happy with the HTC south Africa one?!?
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That's a way, but as I see in your signature your device is SuperCID, so to downgrade the bootloader you don't actually need to flash a full rom. The steps would be:
1. Flash bootloader 1.01 MFG
2. Flash SPL-1.04 from bootloader using 'lnb' if you don't want to keep the MFG.
You can do this without having to hard reset your device.
pof said:
If you are happy with the 1.18 radio, and don't need to access the radio bootloader or AT command interpreter, you can keep 1.09 bootloader without problems. There's no difference in day-to-day use of the Hermes as a PDA/mobile.
That's a way, but as I see in your signature your device is SuperCID, so to downgrade the bootloader you don't actually need to flash a full rom. The steps would be:
1. Flash bootloader 1.01 MFG
2. Flash SPL-1.04 from bootloader using 'lnb' if you don't want to keep the MFG.
You can do this without having to hard reset your device.
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Sweet! Would it be a good idea to stick with 1.01 MFG if im planning on pursuing the GPS thing (IF we get past any risky stuff!), or even if i want to use some cooked goodies later on?
@mrvanx: Yes, it's the best one for playing with this kind of stuff
Please help Pof
pof said:
This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
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I am trying to establish the CID status for my TyTN.
I get the following code: HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB>
I cannot see a thread where I can decypher it.
What is my CID status?
I am on bootloader 1.09 that came with the SA ROM.
Would like to upgrade the radio to 1.27
Thanks
basilrsa said:
I am trying to establish the CID status for my TyTN.
I get the following code: HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB>
I cannot see a thread where I can decypher it.
What is my CID status?
I am on bootloader 1.09 that came with the SA ROM.
Would like to upgrade the radio to 1.27
Thanks
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Your CID is the part just after "HTCS"
So in your case you get (from info 2) "HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB" so your hermes is an English HTC branded device, your device is not SuperCID yet.
Check this post to see which it is (im only going by memory)
EDIT: I upgraded to the 1.27.00.00 radio yesterday, aslong as you use the signed released version (the first option on the related thread) you should be ok, dont use the extracted one. You MUST be SuperCID to upgrade the Radio (covering ones ass).
@basilrsa: Your CID is QTEK_001. Your device is CID locked with bootloader 1.09, you won't be able to flash 1.27 radio unless you downgrade your SPL to 1.04 first, either to continue CID locked and be able to flash extracted radio or to CID unlock and be able to flash shipped radio.
Thanks Pof
pof said:
@basilrsa: Your CID is QTEK_001. Your device is CID locked with bootloader 1.09, you won't be able to flash 1.27 radio unless you downgrade your SPL to 1.04 first, either to continue CID locked and be able to flash extracted radio or to CID unlock and be able to flash shipped radio.
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Thanks for your info Pof, but how can I down grade to SPL 1.04
Sorry for the stupid question but all this is still new to me.
I will really appreciate it.
Thanks
basilrsa: read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291827&p=1122696
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104
Hi,
I'm getting the following string:
HTCSQTEK_H10é8Ã3HTCEUSB>
but I don't know how to decode it... Is this a super CID or not?
Thanks in advance!
Mogg
Hi ,
while I had upgrading only radio to 1.38 the process has interrupted
I had removed the battery and the tytn start but at boot no gms appears instead the radio version then it freezes on windows startup.
I need to reflash the radio firmware but I can do that from active sync.
i have bl 1.04 can anyone help me?
thank you very much
have you install Hard-SPL ?
Ah the curse strikes again... get reading here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
Though post #467 may be of particular interest to you.
sorry for the delay in my response.
i have tried to read all the post about bricked tytn.
Then I have tried to use the kilt methid but my device show a blank screen after the attach. I wait more than 30 minutes after that but without result, so I think this way is not good for me.
Anyway I have use the hard spl 1,10 for the radio upgrade.
I can boot in bootloader spl 1.04 so I hope this a good thing
any ideas?
Thanks
juggero said:
sorry for the delay in my response.
i have tried to read all the post about bricked tytn.
Then I have tried to use the kilt methid but my device show a blank screen after the attach. I wait more than 30 minutes after that but without result, so I think this way is not good for me.
Anyway I have use the hard spl 1,10 for the radio upgrade.
I can boot in bootloader spl 1.04 so I hope this a good thing
any ideas?
Thanks
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yeah, get a regular RUU for your device, an *official* one and update with it.
if you have SPL 1.10.Oli already flashed on the phone, there is something better we can do... but clearly it sounds like you haven't
Olipro said:
yeah, get a regular RUU for your device, an *official* one and update with it.
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will not work, 'cos he has SPL 1.04 and htc_boot 0108 (as he was flashing 1.38 radio), so he needs 1.09 to reflash the radio.
I'm closing this thread, as I see juggero has already posted in the right place.
Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
rakdoll said:
Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
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http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
This guide assumes you already have flashed ROMs and Other components and you are familiar with the process.
NOTE: By downgrading your SPL version your device is more vulnerable to being permenantly bricked if a flash goes wrong, by following this guide through YOU accept responsibility for any problems faced due to this operation. As with other downgrade guides this is NOT intended as a guide for claiming the warranty of the device having flashed components which are not authorised by the manufacturer or carrier.
The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 June 2007 )
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
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And *that* is the reason we helped you, so that now you help others. One day, rakdoll will help someone else. That is why we are all here. Nicely done!
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
revert back
this is what i used to flash mine back to enable original rom to be installed ,so i could take phone back for warrany reasons
Korpse said:
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
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Shouldn't need to access OS. You should be able to do it by putting it in BL mode... THEN plug it into the usb. Then start the updater.
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
Korpse said:
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
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2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
Korpse said:
Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
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Oh interesting. A nuance I hadn't picked up on. So, when using the Force using SSPL" option in the flashing utility, you must be able to access the Phone OS? That surprises me, I thought that the RUU utility would put it on the phone even in BL mode and execute it? Hmm... strange. I guess if it is an exe, it needs the OS to run, though. Sort of makes sense. Sorry about the misdirection.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Hi,
I'm trying to downgrade to the original SPL (I'm trying to get hold of 2.03 but can't seem to find it), so am using 1.06. I've been able to downgrade to Oli1.10 from Oli2.10, but it won't go back to 1.06 from there, after the RUU says successfully completed the SPL is still the same.
Any ideas?
Cheers
downgrade phone for rogers warranty
Hi Guys,
I need to downgrade my phone as well for warranty purposes. Unfortunately Mrvanx's guide is offline at present. Can any one of you give little further detail about what I need to get back to orginal rom/radio/spl and bootloader. Or in shor to be able to send it back for warranty. I do have a new Rogers phone if that can be of any help.
It is from Rogers and currently my boot loader screen says following:
HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Under Device Information:
ROM version: FARIA.R-32
ROM date: 11/06/07
Radio version 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version 32.86u.7020.23H
ExtROM version: BIGSTORAGE
My replacement Rogers Phone has following:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.11
Under Device Information:
ROM version: 1.34.631.14
ROM date: 04/17/07
Radio version 1.42.00.00
Protocol Version 32.75.7020.18H
Can anyone please tell me if it is even possible to do this downgrade.
Thanks
B.
why dont you just brick the phone if you are worried about them complaining over the boot loader version. If you cant access the phone i doubt they will be able (or even be bothered) to
Could you please let me know what you did? Did you downgrade To the original Rogers Radio and SPL ? Do you by any chance have all the original Rogers files (WM5, SPL, Radio,...)?
I am with Rogers too and just unlocked SIM (not CID) and installed WM6 (official HTC)
I am wondering how I could lock SIM again if I need to return the phone for Rogers warranty? or unlocking SIM does NOT void the Rogers warranty?
Thanks
Downgrade to SPL 1.11
Hi is anyone able to figure out how to downgrade from SPL 2.10 Olipro to SPL 1.11? I have tried Mr Vanx guide but at the end of the process, I get Error 260. Not sure if I am doing anything wrong.
Do I have to downgrade to SPL1.10 Olipro, before I downgrade to SPL 1.11?
Thanks
I am having some issues downgrading back to an original SPL. I've searched throughout the site and have found a lot of conflicting advice, although this thread seems to be the most relevant.
I started out the process with SPL: 2.10.Olipro
I downgraded to 1.10.oli.
This process was successful in that the bootloader screen now says that the SPL version is 1.10.oli.
Now, when I try to flash the OEM version of SPL, the phone asks the following question:
You would like to run jumpspl.exe
If I say yes, the screen goes gray and says load... but I end up with a 260 error.
I have tried turning off the usb connection in the active sync and starting from the bootloader as mentioned here, but that just ends up giving me a 264 error.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers,
~Hat
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Post #5 from here fixed the issue.
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
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The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 June 2007 )
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Okay, Im back to 1.10oli, but how do I know if I need to go back to SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00) or SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)?
OK people, please tell me you have looked at the updated guide right??
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=27
Yes, but the choices are,
1.04
1.06
1.09
1.11
2.03
and I don't know how to tell which one is stock for my phone. I assume I need 1.04 since my bootloader says IPL-1.00 but I'm not sure because I know that used to say IPL-1.04, and since it appears that that can change for some reason, I want to make sure I get this right so I can get this waranteed. Im going to sell it on ebay and get the new HTC Fuze as soon as AT&T releases it.