Guys, I'm frustrated now. I've refreshed the ROM of my G4 version of Dopod 818pro (2.15.0001 or something I just can't remember). Unfortunately it fails and I cannot even turn the power on. My WinCE colleague told me that the Boot Loader was damaged. I am now seeking for some place to re-program the chip and hope if someone can provide me boot loader program. I really appreciate your guys help!!!
Are your Bootloader Realy damage? You mean you cant enter it? Or you havent Power to start your Device?
SD Flashing doesnt work without Bootloader!!
JTAG Flashing (hardware nearest Flashing!!) isnt developed for G4 Plattform. (i think so ... look in the Wizard board ... they talk about JTAG flashing and Wizard G4 must simulare like Prophet G4!!)
the bootloader really damaged, I cannot enter the three stripe screen by holding CAM, PWR button and hit reset hole. Do you mean that I even cannot use JTag to burn the chip???
I do have two fully charged batteries. But it should not be a problem of battery, I tried to connect it to charger but it gives no response, no LED
Using JTAG to revive a wizard is either a myth, or an undiscovered secret. If you cant get into bootloader, your chances of reviving your device are slim.
JTAG isnt a secret ... its more like ... hardware knowlage. If you know what IC is your ROM. You can found over the IC Spec the right Pins for JTAG Programming. If i can get a G4 S200, i can try my best.
yes, I know that using Jtag to rewrite boot loader is complex, but it seems like it's my last chance. NetrunnerAT I really appreciate your help but I'm in Shanghai, China so I have to find someone locally who can help me with that. Wish me good luck and I'll keep you guys updated about the result
If I can find someone who can help Jtag my phone, where can I find the correct bootloader program for my cell? is it downloadable?
guys, I finally found a place to revive my prophet. However, they don't know how to jtag it either, neither do they have a programer to rewrite the chip because they say the programer is very very very expensive. They just changed the old chip with one which has correct ROM and now my G4 Prophet turns to a G3 one...anyway, I can use it now.
Thx!
You have change your rom and it is now G3!!
Can you say me what IC they have exchange! If i know it ... and get a damage device, its possible to found a solution for all Prophet users!
No problem, I kept the damaged IC at home, I'll check the model No. and will let you know
er... One more question, I want to dump the current ROM to my SD card, however the wiki doc says it needs to unlock G3 first. But another doc also says unlocking G3 will downgrade my OS to 1.0.13.21. It's like a kind of deadlock, can I just unlock G3 without changing OS?
uhm ... i think you must downgrade your OS first to CID unlock ... after that you can upgrade to your rom and make SD-Dump!
ok, then that is to say i'll never be able to get a backup of the ROM I currently have.
I'll wait for some weeks and will try to "torture" my prophet again. It was just fixed and I'm supposed to "rest" it for some days, but sooner or later it'll be unlocked, hey heyhey....
Hi, I'm back, the chip is a "M-System MD8832-d16-v3-xp" with a clearly name "Disk On Chip" on it, hope this can help you locate the chip
http://www.m-systems.com/NR/rdonlyr.../0/EOL_DOC_G3_P3.pdf|EOL_DiskOnChip_G3_P3.pdf
Cool ... i read some PDFs ... this is are very nice entry in the PDF!
Compatibility Issues
The recommended replacement, DiskOnChip G4 1Gb/2Gb 9x12mm FBGA, and H1 2Gb
12x18mm FBGA are ball to ball compatible with DiskOnChip G3/P3 7x10mm, 9x10mm FBGA
products that are being discontinued. It is necessary to upgrade software based on TrueFFS 6.2.x
to TrueFFS 6.3.2 and above when upgrading to DiskOnChip G4.
If the different betwen G3 and G4 is the TrueFFS Driver and the G4/H1 is Pin Conpatibel ... possible if i get a half damage device i try to solder a H1 DOC on the PBC and reformat it.
[edit]Holly ****! THX i have found the Migration Document with JTAG Pins!!!
http://www.m-systems.com/NR/rdonlyr...MigrationGuideDOC_G4_1Gb_to_H3_1Gb_Rev0.2.pdf
how are you going to access the pins on a FBGA?
yanuk said:
how are you going to access the pins on a FBGA?
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you dont. you take a bricked one, de-solder it, and manually trace them to somewhere on the motherboard using a multimeter.
can any body help me with a jtag points for a g4 wizard doomed with a incorrect ipl
Give me a damage Wizard board and i say the JTAG Pins! G4 and G3 have the same JTAG Pins.
I search for a damage Prophet to but i doesnt want pay over 80€ for a community project without any payment. It some on give me a wizard or prophet Board ... i desolder the IC ... search for JTAG Pins ... and reflash it ... send it back but working :->
the device doesnt damage if i resolder the DOC ... i have the right soldering mashine.
NetrunnerAT
Where you saw on DOC points jtag ?
You need the signals TDO TCK TMS TRST TDI.
DOC only memory and there no these signal.
What jtag you will use? And no program for flash DOC through jtag - see about Universal jtag.
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HELLO my friends!
Can you help me to revive my qtek 9100 whit Jtag interface.
I need testpoins for Jtag of G4 mainboard (TDO,TDI,TMS,TCK...)
Thanks in advance for ALL!!!
To the best of my knowledge nobody has revived their wizard using JTAG contacts. It might be a myth, or just unproven yet.
Wizard jtag Done yeeeeehaaa!
ok i made it happen n have done that successfully
i made a mistake of doing hard spl thing before downgrading to t mobile custom rom, first it was stuck on splash screen n than was totally dead after resetting
i searched n found the procedure of jtag it n bring back to life, im very happy i did it with slight modifications according to my logic n made it till bootloader, much thanks to all who left so many ideas and materials at different places. ok now my problem is that it does the whole flashing but after that it gets back to boot loader with the same incorrect ipl spl
i guess ill be needing a monster pack with ipl spl included i tried ruu mun otherwise the nb sawith the custom gave invalid tool msg. any ideas guys?
fsl13 said:
ok i made it happen n have done that successfully
i made a mistake of doing hard spl thing before downgrading to t mobile custom rom, first it was stuck on splash screen n than was totally dead after resetting
i searched n found the procedure of jtag it n bring back to life, im very happy i did it with slight modifications according to my logic n made it till bootloader, much thanks to all who left so many ideas and materials at different places. ok now my problem is that it does the whole flashing but after that it gets back to boot loader with the same incorrect ipl spl
i guess ill be needing a monster pack with ipl spl included i tried ruu mun otherwise the nb sawith the custom gave invalid tool msg. any ideas guys?
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HEY lissten HOW DID U GET THE places where to solder the JTAG cables to motherboard ? please answere
Wizard jtag test points
I found this on another site, hope it is some help.
I am extremely sorry that ihave been away and couldnt respond
Ok im all ears and here to help you till you make it to the end
now tell me your actuall status and what you need
i luckily have all the files needed to jtag but
right these unfortunately i have a very bad internet connection
PM me and we ll take it from there
dont worry i am with you now
Mr FSL13
Can you please come to PM or IM
i have also a one WIZA200 Dead while Update
and i need to JTAG it
its very urgent
can you please help me in this problem?
Thanks in Advance
[hello
thank you , i woulid if you cna help me to make the same , means jtag for my htc wizard i did the same mistake , is dead now, , thank you
souriant said:
[hello
thank you , i woulid if you cna help me to make the same , means jtag for my htc wizard i did the same mistake , is dead now, , thank you
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RIFF JTAG Wizard look at http://www.jtagbox.com/tag/security-features/
hi does anyone no of any jtag specialists in the united kingdom that can bring my wallaby back to life? i tried to flash a working wallaby pda and somehow the bootloader is gone and stuck on a bootscreen ,,if anyone can atleast point me in the right direction to get jtag done on this old device i would appreciate it .
as this device may be old but it was fully working until i used lumpistefans kitchen to add the rom now i have a dead device and when i contacted him about it didnt reply until i started busting balls on here no worrys ,thanks to him i have a dead device and do not blame me for i am a electronics engineer ,,pc engineer and no these pdas inside out but i will not do jtag myself as thats very delicate work ,,,if u or anyone no of any jtag specialist in the united kingdom please let me no so i can salvage my old wallaby back ,,,since thanks to lumpistefans crap kitchen ,,this pda is sitting in a box with no bootloader u tell me why my bootloader get erased from his rom ?? oh well
since then i have got myself a trinity handset ,,and now i own a htc athena
but i will never give up on recovering my wallaby as it was a lovely pda had good use out of it
I flash my qtek 9100 with Hard SLP and when install a new ROM (by error with another SPL), after restart hold in boot windows with image a Beer in Roma. After reboot not start (As if it did not have power).
Help me please
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I flash my qtek 9100 with Hard SLP and when install a new ROM (by error with another SPL), after restart hold in boot windows with image a Beer in Roma. After reboot not start (As if it did not have power).
Help me please
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Could you state the original IPL/SPL from where you started from?
This sounds like a doc/IPL/SPL mismatch (aka brick).
However, the hard SPL has a build in protection that would warn you if you tried to hard SPL a G3.
That is why I am quite puzzled.
Could you tell the steps leading to this state?
Did you extract the hard SPL? If So, what program did you run?
Beer in Roma....I think it is the Button's 1.05 ROM for G3 unlocking...So you've got a brick.
AFAIK, the hard SPL just prevent from installing to a G3 Wizard, but not guard against flashing a G3 SPL to a Hard-SPLed G4, so it will still brick a G4.
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Beer in Roma....I think it is the Button's 1.05 ROM for G3 unlocking...So you've got a brick.
AFAIK, the hard SPL just prevent from installing to a G3 Wizard, but not guard against flashing a G3 SPL to a Hard-SPLed G4, so it will still brick a G4.
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Yeah, you are right, beer in Roma is Button's 1.05 ROM, this is most definitely a brick..
You are right, the current Hard SPL has no SPL/IPL write protection, bricking is still possible.
Seems the user ignored the warnings about flashing ROMs containing IPL/SPL and flashed the 1.05 after hard SPL.
What can I do?
What can I do? The qtek not start anything, it is as if they do not have batteries, not a single flashing light or anything, it goes to a service technician and tell me that I have to change the entire motherboard and not get the parts. . ! ! ! Do we really will have reason?
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What can I do? The qtek not start anything, it is as if they do not have batteries, not a single flashing light or anything, it goes to a service technician and tell me that I have to change the entire motherboard and not get the parts. . ! ! ! Do we really will have reason?
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It's true, the only way to save a device with mismatched bootloaders is to replace the mainboard.
Where can I buy over the Internet a mainboard?
I live in Venezuela and not get the mainboard for a qtek 9100. Does anyone know where I could buy or order the parts?
herojas said:
I live in Venezuela and not get the mainboard for a qtek 9100. Does anyone know where I could buy or order the parts?
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I love noob toasted bricks!! they just smell great!!!!! Toastyyy !
in mexico city it cost about 150-200 usd a motherboard g3 search in the weba and maybe u can find 1 in venezuela
enjoy it
hello,all the masters of this site and pda phones....i have a spv m3000 from orange G4 locked and tried to flash t-mobile radio prodigy with softSPL...it went on first screen with the beer image and got stuck on it...after i removed my battery it wouldn't start,enter bootloader,soft,hard reset it wont even charge(red led not blinking) my computer doesn't recognize it.i tried giving the batey a 9v,6v shock and nothing happened phone is still dead...i'm not a good electronist so i can't use the method to rewrite the inernal memory soldering wires...etc....could you give me a solution???i'm desperate(
xardas_90 said:
hello,all the masters of this site and pda phones....i have a spv m3000 from orange G4 locked and tried to flash t-mobile radio prodigy with softSPL...it went on first screen with the beer image and got stuck on it...after i removed my battery it wouldn't start,enter bootloader,soft,hard reset it wont even charge(red led not blinking) my computer doesn't recognize it.i tried giving the batey a 9v,6v shock and nothing happened phone is still dead...i'm not a good electronist so i can't use the method to rewrite the inernal memory soldering wires...etc....could you give me a solution???i'm desperate(
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Well, there's no such rom 't-mobile radio prodigy',you are mixing things here.Its either Radio Rom or OS(Rom). Assuming by your post 'the beer image' as you say,it must be the "Button's Rom 1.05" with IPL/SPL 1.05 (G3 Bootloaders). Did you flash the Button's Rom 1.05 on your G4 device,well,if so then,its a "BRICK",coz flashing a G3 Rom with IPL/SPL in it'll certainly brick a G4 phone,Now nothing can be done with it.
well i've heard something of leaving it 24 hours without the battery and shoking the battery but no luck so far...isn't there any program that would recognize this brick as a flash memory so i could just put the bootloader back?and yes i have put a g3 rom on my g4....and it makes me feel like an idiot...can't i just jump start the thing into the bootloader?(T-Mobile_UK_2.19.11_Radinly - this is what i flashed)
xardas_90 said:
well i've heard something of leaving it 24 hours without the battery and shoking the battery but no luck so far...isn't there any program that would recognize this brick as a flash memory so i could just put the bootloader back?and yes i have put a g3 rom on my g4....and it makes me feel like an idiot...can't i just jump start the thing into the bootloader?(T-Mobile_UK_2.19.11_Radinly - this is what i flashed)
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Are you sure it was T-Mobile_UK_2.19.11_Radio only which you flashed and not the Button's Rom 1.05 ? coz flashing any Radio rom will not Brick any phone,regardless it being a G3 or G4,coz it doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) in it,its safe to flash to any G3 or G4 phone.
But what about you said it boots up to splash screen with a 'Beer Mug' on it,coz only Button's Rom splash screen displays a Beer Mug on it.
i'm certain this is what i flashed...and it was a beer mug(at least half of it) now it doesn't do anything...after i removed the battery it died
Could it be the battery?????
xardas_90 said:
i'm certain this is what i flashed...and it was a beer mug(at least half of it) now it doesn't do anything...after i removed the battery it died
Could it be the battery?????
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Strange !!!
A Radio Rom never flashes any splash screen and it never displays any splash screen,especially a Beer Mug splash screen,you must have been mistaken and downloaded and flashed the Button's Rom 1,05,which has G3 IPL/SPL in it,and now its Bricked,nothing can be done with it to revive,except replacement of the 'DOC Chip' (M-System Flash Chip),which I'm afraid is not possible by anybody other then the manufacturer/vendor of the device.
just found out that in the directory named T-Mobile_UK_2.19.11_Radinly was CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE....did i brick it?...and how much would it cost to change that chip?...any place i could order another motherboard? maybe it's another way to do it...maybe someone does know how to use JTAG...give me some advice please...
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just found out that in the directory named T-Mobile_UK_2.19.11_Radinly was CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE....did i brick it?...and how much would it cost to change that chip?...any place i could order another motherboard? maybe it's another way to do it...maybe someone does know how to use JTAG...give me some advice please...
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YUP !!! there it is,I was correct, its Button's Rom 1.05.
Well,yes ! its "BRICKED"
Only,manufacturer/vendor can provide you the motherboard or tell you the exact cost of it,or you can try the Ebay if they have it or can provide it.
Secondly,its still not known or if anyone can revive it through 'JTAG' ,guys here have been working on it,but were not successful and stopped trying it,you can have further info on it by checking out this link or 'Search' through google.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274766
one more question and that's all...will the orange service or repair center notice that i've been "playing" with the device?maybe with a little luck they will replace it..or replace the motherboard :-S...thank you o much for helping
well....to all the readers of this post...i didn't manage to revive it through any method and decided to send it to the provider repair center...i have sent a message to caesar54 who managed to revive his wizard using jtag and waiting for a reply....IMPORTANT : DO NOT FLASH YOUR G4 DEVICE WITH A G3 ROM IT WILL BRICK YOUR PDA (I JUST FOUD OUT THE HARD WAY) SO REMEMBER..IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING....DONT DO IT...i will post updates on what i have done with mine if someone intersted...
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well....to all the readers of this post...i didn't manage to revive it through any method and decided to send it to the provider repair center...i have sent a message to caesar54 who managed to revive his wizard using jtag and waiting for a reply....IMPORTANT : DO NOT FLASH YOUR G4 DEVICE WITH A G3 ROM IT WILL BRICK YOUR PDA (I JUST FOUD OUT THE HARD WAY) SO REMEMBER..IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING....DONT DO IT...i will post updates on what i have done with mine if someone intersted...
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Wish you a very goodluck there ! hope you get it working
thank you very much zabardast....i went to the orange shop where i was instructed by someone "high ranked" and someone over there told me that they have a tool that writes software even when the phone is dead...probably through a service cable or something...they said it would be back in 2 weeks maximum...and i will be informed of the price of the repair wich i will post (including my decision) anyway agan "DO NOT FLASH IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"...hope it will get it back after 1 week functionally and cheap...i will search other forums and find posible solutions that i will post...till' then...good luck and work safe
until my phone comes back repaired or not i'm searching for an alternative...does anyone have a wizarrd to sell?preferably a broken one...broken display or something...but with the mainboard intact?
hello xardas_90
i have a recently bricked wizard (xda mini s)
now we are working on finding the jtag test points on the main board to reflash the
bricked 1 , so i am glad if u join us in thread (( Dead WIZARD Never! Let's REVIVE ))
to share info.s and to reach our goal . please join us
well when the board comes back be sure i'll help...but there would be another soluution...we could find a site or store that sell DOC chips...the rest is simple...we just need that chip...i'll search other forums for wizard jatg points...i really like your initiative...
There Is Hope
1.Se poate scrie bootloader prin JTAG
2.Nu exista nici un DOC cip.
3.Nu va putem furniza informatii gratuite service pe mail incercati pe www.flashgsm.ro/forum
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From: Rebirth A.D.
To: office
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: reparatie
aveti cumva DOC cipul care contine bootloaderul?sau o placa de baza second hand?...sunt din ploiesti si nu pot veni in bucuresti momentan...nu se poate scrie bootloaderul prin JTAG?multumesc pentru reply si astept un raspuns
Translation : Original message : do you have the DOC chip that contains the bootloader?i'm from ploiesti and i can't come ti bucharest for the moment....can't we write the bootloader through JTAG? Thank you for the reply and i'm waiting for your answer...
Answer
1 - IT CAN BE WRITTEN THROUGH JTAG
2-no doc chip
3- use out forum because we can't tell you how to repair your phone free through e-mail
a fiend of mine wich works at a repair center said he could discover JTAG points but omly with a board that is functional...anyone out there willing to sacrifice or sell?i'll post news on JTAG
so it is a good news , that guy could help , keep trying with me.............
Where r u xardas_90 ??!
any news about ur device , jtag
nothing
nothing new....ssince i don't have a functional mainboard...nobody can tell me the jtag points....still waiting for my device to come back from the provider...i'm waiting for 2 weeks...
Can someone help me to locate flash chip on mainboard of tytn in order to replace it. I have two mainboard, none work. on first I have flash chip dead (only can start bootloader but cannot upgrade any hardspl or any rom, or radio... on second mainboard have problem with main quallkom chip, dont have all contact on board itc ripped from board... So I think to put the flash chip from second to first board, but I can't find any scheme over the internet for tytn chip position! I really need for help from someone!!! PEACE!!!
Hello
I killed my HTC TyTN II.
Flashed a Touch Diamond ROM to it and it stoped Working,not even the lights turn on. And it doesnt go to Bootloader mode unfortunatly.
I sent it to repair and they said to me that that was the MainBoard Problem and it needed to be substituded.
Do you know any place i can get a Mainboard or HTC TyTN II Parts like Chips and other stuffs.
Hope u be ablle or already fixed your device.
Thankx in advance for your help.