So, like the title says, I wish to upgrade my rom without the use of a sync cable (the one I have glitches). Bluetooth is probably out of the question, but I was thinking there might be a flash upgrade boot option of sorts, that'd allow me to upgrade through the use of an micro sd-card or so.
Any ideas?
(before you ask, I charge the battery with an external charger).
A lot of the phones are capable of upgrading from the rom image on the SD card - if you extract the nbh and rename it (I forget the name - search the hermes forum) and put it on a blank phone - you probably can do it that way. I've not tried it but it's likely to work!
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Here's the link to the procedure for the hermes:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing
You probably have to name the image something other then HERMING.nbh - maybe STARIMG.nbh? Just a thought. Remember - I don't know for sure this will work - doing so might cause the world to implode but I suspect if it works, it works - otherwise it doesn't.
Ok, thanks for the quick reply. Just tried with STARIMG.nbh aswell as STAR100IMG.nbh in the root folder of a recently formatted sd-card, but no go. The text "searching sd-card" that flashed by right before I get the test screen does however indicate that it's a viable method for updating the ROM, so I'll keep going and try some other names for the ROM image.
If you figure out the name, please post so we know how to do it
I would also be very interested in this ... anyone figured out the correct filename yet?
On mine it's STARIMG.nbh.
The card needs to be formatted FAT32.
I've never tried SD card flashing with SoftSPL, but you would need SoftSPL to flash a non-OEM ROM.
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Hello all,
My XDA 1 has a fault I don't understand. When I hit the Power on button it comes on and stops at the O2 splash screen. It will not go beyond this point no matter what I try. The desktop does not recognise the device when I connect via USB. I have tried:
1. Soft reset
2. Hard reset
3. booting up in bootloader and running all device tests (failed USB rx & Infrared rx)
4. In bootloader copying boot to SD and booting with that. (Unfortunately I do not currently have an SD card large enough to copy CE or GSM boot)
What I really need to know is if I can try to upgrade the device (to WM2003) anyway and if the upgrade will solve the problem I have now.
DEVICE DETAILS:
Device: O2 xda 1
Bootloader: 5.14
ROM: 4.01
Radio: 3.02
Any and all advice/help/replies most welcome. Sorry if this has been answered previously but I searched and couldn't find the info I needed.
Thanks,
Aide
It's a lost cause...
Device can't connect to activesync via serial or USB so I can't upgrade and see if that solves it. Don't have card reader to try SD method. The problem is as described in my first post above.
I don't know how this happened (I hadn't tried upgrading or any sort of flashing apart from unlocking the device a looooong time ago).
Any ideas as to a solution would be greatly appreciated.
Aide
Your ROM version is not known (at least for me ) ... are you sure it's not 4.01.00 ??
Anyway, regardless of the reason, the good news is that you still have the boot loader working, the bad new is that you MUST use the SD method since the ActiveSync doesn't recognize the device.
Thanks Bis,
Yes ROM is 4.01.00 (sorry if I confused anyone ). Problem is at a new level.
I got an XDA with a cracked screen (so it's almost impossible to use though everything works) and used that with XDAtools (thanks Jeff) to upgrade to xda-dev Special Rom 1.2.
I copied the ROM to the 32MB SD card (got and error message at the end) but still risked using it to try bootloader method on the 'hanging xda. It worked: kinda :?
It now boots and hangs at the xda-dev splash screen and no other changes to original problem. Was that error message I saw responsible or could something hardware related have happened?
Still waiting for relief...Help me please. Someone, anyone...
Aide
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I copied the ROM to the 32MB SD card (got and error message at the end) but still risked using it to try bootloader method on the 'hanging xda. It worked: kinda :?
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That's your problem - redo everything above - but using a 64MB SD Card or higher. The ROM files are just over 32MB. Even if your card said it was all there chances are it could have been corrupt.
-JB
Thanks JB,
Getting 128MB card in the morning, will let all know how it went.
Aide
PS: Noticed someone posted same initial problem under topic 'XDA 1 locked on O2 screen' in General forum with no solution posted. So if anyone is interested - watch this space!
Ahhhh... God is in his heaven and all is right with the world
Used 128MB card and it worked like a charm. One thing I noted though: After I used XDAtools to copy ROM to the SD card and put it in the device it would not boot from the card automatically. I assume the ROM update tool on the device checks to see if the current ROM and the one on the SD card are the same and ignores the SD card if they are. (By the way, could someone please confirm if this is so? Idle curiosity :wink: )
I had to use the tool on the device to write the ROM to SD from one device and then the other device (that had the hanging problem) finally read that copy.
Thanks all,
Aide
some boot loder versions doesn't recognize ROM file on SD cards ... ex: 5.22
Hi, I already read a lot in the forum and the wiki, but as my first try to update my rom went terribly wrong I tend to ask some pros for help
I got me a used XDA1, it worked fine and was a german O2 Model. Then I got the last Update from O2 (3.19) and updated it with success. Then I wanted to unlock it with your Special Edition Rom, downloaded it and tried to apply it just like the O2 one via active sync and progam A. Result was, that my xda got stuck, now I can only see the empty transfer bar on the xda and can´t connect to the xda with active sync anymore. Both resets won´t help to bring the xda back to live the silly bar comes back every time... I can still get into the bootloader, though. As far as I understand I can still get the thing working again with a SD-Card and a rom on it? Can someone pleasepleaseplease tell me which card to buy (I don´t have one jet...) and how to get a onto this card and where I can get this rom? I still have the Files this O2 exe unzipped onto my disk and theres a nice 31MB NK.nbf in the Program/German folder. I already found the description how to flash from a SD-card with the bootloader, I just don´t know where to find the right rom and how to put it on a card... And maybemaybe, could someone tell me the right way to get this O2 xda working with a D1 card without getting it stuck again???
Thanks a lot to all your answers, I really need this thing to work again, and still ask myself how I could try to update the rom without reading enough, seems I will cry into my pillow till it works again cause it´s the only cell I got at the moment
Download xdatools and install, choose the nbf file as source and your card reader/writer as destination, choose this from the drop down menu at the bottom. You will need a 64 meg minimum sd card, a card reader/writer, xdatools and the nbf file. Once xdatools has programmed the sd card you insert into xda, push reset while holding power, when prompted push the action key which is the centre of the 4 way rocker switch. You will find many roms in the the kitchen that is kindly run my lumpistefan. Make sure to choose sd card flashing at base of screen before cooking rom. Here is the link for the rom kitchen.
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
thanks a lot for the fast answer I got all the progs and the original 3.19 german o2 rom from rom kitchen. Now I´ll just have to get me a SD-Card... One more little question. I can´t turn the XDA off with the powerswitch and after reseting it also turns on automatically. I´ll have to wait till Monday to buy a SD-Card, so is there a way to get the thing off although it is still in transfermode or will I have to leave it on and in the cradle?
If you want it switched off completely, just poke once into the hole under the headphone socket, this will completely disconnect the battery, when you want it back on just push once again. Always do that procedure after flashing a rom also, push once then leave for on eminute, push once more to switch back on with new rom and noot sequence.
works fine, thanks
hi ppl,
today I ve made rom with the romkitchen, it was 2003 final and everything went ok, phone was functional until I used to try to install some newer versin of the programs I previously included in the rom. That didnt work (of course) so I decide to put another rom without those programs so I can install newer versions but when I run the romkithen exe computer report
in the dos window
error getconnectiontipe - unspecified error
error getting connectiontype
and the program for the patching report that he is trying to get the data from the device and after that he reports that
"cannot execute the remote communication program, please make sure that the usb/serial cable is properly connectes"
of course cable is connected, device syncing with the active sync and the icon is green, used to try to soft reset pc and pocketpc, to hardware reset pocket pc, to connect it to other pc and patch there, to install active sync 3.7.1, to reinstall active sync 4.2, to reinstall usb drivers on the pc, to put sim card and sd card out and to patch then... nothing helped...
what can I do ? is that due to the windows 2003 instalation on the pocket pc (had same version on other wallaby without the problems) ? can I solve that some way ?
I ve read before that patching can be performed from the SD card so I found the xda tools and osi image tool but couldnt found rom nd1 file anywhere (was stupid and didnt make copy of my previous rom)... which rom can I use just to enable USB connection and after that I ll patch it with the "normal" rom from the rom kitchen...
Ive checked those roms http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMVersions but didnt find any nd1 file in the files I ve checked, can I use those roms with osi image tool eventually ?
which one ?
Lots of questions ... Sorry people ...
I can use it in this condition too but I d rather have an opportunity to flash it to some other version maybe.
Best regards to the community !
I think it´s just the problem that the ROM prohibits flashing via EXE-file. You have to flash via SD-Card.....
You find the ROm to write on the SD-Card in the EXE-FIle. Just extract the exe using winzip, and then you will find it in a subdirectory (normally english, or dependent on the ROM-Language...)
Stefan
Thanks a lot Stefan, so I can use some ROM from the page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMVersions ?
Any advice which one should I take please (Im not using any of the operators noted there, just looking for some rom that will function ok) ?
Thanks m8 !
Yes, you can take any rom of it. Mostly the T-Mobile prohibits flashing via EXE-File, but Flashing via SD-Card is more secure in my opinion. So i´ve done 99,9% of my flashes via SD-Card, and you can believe me, i´ve done it a lot of times.....
By the way, which software has to been updated in my romkitchen?
If you give me the hints, i could try to update them....
Stefan
thanks a lot for your time and advices Stefan !
Its not a huge problem but probably we share same opinion - most of the tech guys like to see that everything work fine, if something doesnt work then we re not satisfied.
Basically problem is that I included spb pocket plus in the rom and therefore I cant install spb weather which demands pocket plus v 2.5+ and version in the rom is 2.0. I cant upgrade it coz its in the ROM, used to try to remove it from the registry but no luck, used to install latest spb diary coz the spb weather also work with the diary but looks like that the first thing weather perform is checking of the pocket plus version and if the version is not 2.5+ it stops the installation...
Probably for the most of the people spb weather is not a reason for loosing couple of hours in trying to change rom in wallaby but as I ve mentioned I like the things that work 100%, if some electronic/computer stuff work at 99% that usually bother me. Stupid - I know but thats the way it is.
Im going to patch it thru the SD, thanks again for the all your efforts now and before.
GL & HF !
Sorry...
Still need help, using the OSI tool I copyed NK.nbf file from 4.02.04_eng rom to "XDA SD Card Slot -unknown size" - coz I dont have card reader/writer at the present moment so I tought that I can put the file via the cradle connection while the card is in the wallaby...
Checked the card from the wallaby file explorer but nothing is on the card, since I had expirience with direct writing to c64 and amiga disks writing I assumed that file could be written directly to the card without OS instructions but after the reset of the wallaby it report that card shoud be formatted to become writable... Is that normal, or I should wait for the card writer reader to put the file properly to the sd card ?
If possible please help me with the link for the OSI tool patching, I cant find it anymore, checked thru the site but no luck, dont know what I have to press so the wallaby read the rom from the sd card.
Thanks Stefan & all others
success !
No help needed, I ve made it...
So dont have any fears as Stefan told unpack the rom from the self extracting archive and run osi tool, in the source field set nbf as a file type and then select extraced rom.
As a target you can set card reader/writer and also you can put the SD card in the wallaby as I did. Set the XDA SD card as a target in that case.
Its normal that after the writing (no message that writing is successfull, when it is finished OSI tool will stop) SD card become unreadable to wallaby.
Then perform actions as noted in SD card patching info
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
Hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a " Hard Reset"
Action button mentioned above is middle button - "D PAD"
Works like a charm, now I have o2 win 2002 and later I ll patch it to 2003 SE again but without pocket plus.
Thanks Stefan and community !
I have an 8525 at home, that I need to return for Warranty replacement, via Cingular/AT&T. Problem is, it has the VP3G 3.62 rom on it, and the USB port is toast (the black thing that aligns the pins are gone, and some of the pins are mashed, or missing). I need to return this to a factory state within 9 days. I have read about flashing via memory card, but there was mention of SPL and bootloader. I don't have the phone handy to reference what's on there, but it sould be whatever the VP3G 3.62 comes with. Is there a way I can change those without using a usb connection? I don't have any sort of bluetooth tethering ability either. hope anyone can help, thank you!
Get a SD card and reader. Drop the files you need to put it back to stock software on that.
Is there a way to do the spl or/and bootloader via memory card?
soundwavestephen said:
Is there a way to do the spl or/and bootloader via memory card?
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Yes there is, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it.
Assuming you have not installed HardSPL on the phone, this is what I would do:
*Grab a copy of hardspl and put it into it's own directory.
* Run RUUWrapper.exe, click on Force Using SSPL, click next. This will put a few files in the directory, one of which is named EnterBL.exe
* Copy EnterBL.exe to the SD card.
*Copy the file to the memory of the phone
*Put the ROM you want to flash on the FAT32 formatted SD card, renaming it per the SD Card Flash instructions
*Put that card in the phone
*Run EnterBL.exe from the phone's memory with the SD card in place
As I understand it, this should temporarily load the modified boot loader, which will see the image file and ask if you want to continue with the flash process.
Ok, sorry if I came off rude, as I am just new at all of this. Thanks for the information, and I'll give this a try when I get home from work this morning, and let you know how it goes. I appreciate it very much.
soundwavestephen said:
Ok, sorry if I came off rude, as I am just new at all of this. Thanks for the information, and I'll give this a try when I get home from work this morning, and let you know how it goes. I appreciate it very much.
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Oh you didn't. And my apologies if I came across like a git, I did try to show that I was being a bit of a smart arse with the .
Yes, let us know how it works. I'm 99% sure that should sort your question and problem out.
Yay
It's all back to stock AT&T software. Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how the warranty return works out.
ok my phone is HTC 8525, with WM 6.1 professional . It worked fine for 3 days then it start freezing , before it does that a blue background will appeare ,then it will not let me do anything at all . When I try to touch an icon, it will say something like invalid location or could not find target . I have to hard reset it. sometimes I have to reset it 4 or 5 times a day . , In addition, the mini card will freeze the whole phone is there is a solution like reinstall the whole thing ? please help me I truly appricat it . In addition, the mini card will freeze the whole phone is there is a solution like reinstall the whole thing ?
Hmmm, "the mini card will freeze the whole phone"??? Are you referring to the SD Storage Card? Do you have any volatile data stored on the card? Any Today Screen Applications?
If this is the case, try shutting off the phone and removing the card. Then place the card into a card reader, and plug it into your PC. Make a folder on the desktop of your PC, and COPY all the contents of the SD card to the folder.
Now, reformat the SD card in your PC, as FAT32, and default for all characteristics.
Once reformatted, copy all that stuff back onto the SD card from the temp folder on your desktop, making sure everything is returned to it's original locations. Pop the SD card back into your phone and see if it's fixed. Sometimes, corrupted space on the SD card will make the phone behave very badly. Hopefully, this procedure might fix it for you.
-pvs
Yes Sir, i apaologize , i was refering to the SD card . i am just tierd resetting the phone every 4 hrs . do you recomend any shops that can fix the soft -ware . i notices when i start the phone and i go to clean tmp it will say" 8 Fils and 4 folders of 656 Bytes cleard ! . then 5 hrs later the blue screen comes back
After doing what pvs said, and if you still have problems I'd check for bad blocks with MTTY... I would also ,after confirming no bad blocks, would flash a stock rom then reflash wm 6.1 and see if that helps... Cheers...
Wow , how to do all that if you dont mind me asking , actually i took the SD card out i am not in need for it at the moment . can you please help me to do what you said and i truly appreciat it , Great thanks for both of you gents
pvs already says what to do in his previous post...
To check for bad blocks follow this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377389
To Flash a stock rom you need to know what carrier the phone was on. Download the wm6 update from their site and, Making sure you have Hard SPLed your phone, I suggest flashing via the sd card method. Its safer than flashing through pc.
Format sd card fat32. copy .nbh file of the stock rom (you may have to search for it) onto the sd card and rename to "hermimg.nbh". Put back in hermes and reset to bootloader (power button, OK button above flywheel and soft reset with stylus. Hold all buttons until it goes to tri-colour screen). It should recognise the os flash and load up a screen showing 1st boot screen, 2nd boot screen, gsm And os (or something like that as cooked roms don't generally have the gsm part). MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AT LEAST 50% BATTERY!!!!! Follow the prompts... I generally use the sd card method to flash ALL my roms so I don't have problems like usb disconnecting or pc rebooting/hanging or power failures.
Hope this helps you out, Cheers...
BASELABBAS ... Please describe what you are doing when you say that you are "HARD-RESETTING" several times a day. Are you:
1) poking the stylus into the hole at the base of the unit?
- or -
2) holding down the two soft-keys WHILE poking the stylus into the hole until the confirmation screen appears, and then opening the keyboard and typing 'R' and then [SPACEBAR]?
If you are doing the first ... this is called a SOFT reset. The second is a HARD-RESET, and will wipe the phone clean of ANYTHING outside of what came with the ROM itself.
Since you have posted that you already removed the SD Card from the device, and can (for the time-being) live without it, I recommend you do an ACTUAL Hard Reset (backup anything you need to keep first) via step #2 above, and then be patient about installing any apps. I wouldn't do anything more than sync it up via ActiveSync with your contacts for the first few of days. If things start to go crazy without any third-party apps installed, then I would look into the steps that ultramag69 has suggested ... starting with a flash to a stock ROM.
WM6.1 has been a bit shaky on our Hermes thus far. Some people are getting good results, but a lot of others are having issues like you are describing. I would suspect that your ROM might not be a good match, before I'd suspect bad blocks at this point (and it's a bit easier to test for).
If the stock rom does better on your device, you can try flashing back up to a WM6.1 ROM after that. And if you haven't already, make sure that you have installed HARDSPL before doing any of this stuff.
Good luck,
-pvs
Mr. pvs , I am doing the #2 holding down the two soft-keys WHILE poking the stylus into the hole until the confirmation screen appears, and then opening the keyboard and typing 'R' and then [SPACEBAR]. I tried to download Hard-SPL 1[1].10, when I open it on my PC it will give me instructions then when I press upgrade I will see 4 color screen the Sync icon will disappear and then it will say that it lost connections.
it looks like i need to update
this what is say
From :
Image Version : TNT.19199
to
image version 2.05.255.1
BASELABBAS said:
Mr. pvs , I am doing the #2 holding down the two soft-keys WHILE poking the stylus into the hole until the confirmation screen appears, and then opening the keyboard and typing 'R' and then [SPACEBAR].
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OK, well that's definitely a Hard Reset. So your WM6.1 Rom is acting flaky right aftwerwards, eh? I would say it's time to try a different ROM, as we've been discussing above.
BASELABBAS said:
I tried to download Hard-SPL 1[1].10, when I open it on my PC it will give me instructions then when I press upgrade I will see 4 color screen the Sync icon will disappear and then it will say that it lost connections.
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No ... try Hard-SPL-V7.zip found at the bottom of THIS PAGE. I THINK you can flash it via the SD method if ActiveSync isn't working for you (if not, somebody please correct me). To do this, open the downloaded ZipFile with WinZip or WinRAR and copy the file inside named RUU_signed.nbh to your desktop. Rename it HERMIMG.NBH, and copy it to the root of your freshly reformatted (FAT32) Storage Card. Put the Storage Card into your device and press the side OK button and the power button simultaneously while resetting with the stylus until the tri-color screen appears and turns white. The device will find the HERMIMG.NBH file and offer to upgrade by pressing the Power Key. This will install HardSPL onto your device without the need for ActiveSync. You can also flash ROMs in this manner.
Again, good luck,
-pvs
No, You need to run a file from the phone itself to install hard SPLvia sd card. You can find it on page 116 of the hard SPL or how not to brick your hermes thread.
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
No, You need to run a file from the phone itself to install hard SPLvia sd card. You can find it on page 116 of the hard SPL or how not to brick your hermes thread.
Cheers...
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Thanks for checking me on that, Ultramag. I had a feeling there was something I was forgetting.
-pvs