Questions from a newbie - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

I just upgraded my X01HT to WM6 JPN rom and did SIM-unlock as in POF's guide.
Now, the radio version of my phone is 1.16.00.00, so will I still get SIM-unlock if I upgrade Radio ROM to 1.41 ?
And by the way, would someone please explain how radio rom is different from radio bootloader? I'm quite confused about them.
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trungkho said:
I just upgraded my X01HT to WM6 JPN rom and did SIM-unlock as in POF's guide.
Now, the radio version of my phone is 1.16.00.00, so will I still get SIM-unlock if I upgrade Radio ROM to 1.41 ?
And by the way, would someone please explain how radio rom is different from radio bootloader? I'm quite confused about them.
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I already found the answer to my first question here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ

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upgrading to 1.18.416.1 WWE ROM and keeping radio 1.16?

hi all
i CID-unlocked my tytn with the CID & SIM unlocker from here, which upgraded my radio to 1.16. thing is i get a much better reception now, and i saw that the rom has radio 1.14 with it. so- how is it? any good? and second, can i flash the new rom but keep my current radio? and if so, how?
sorry if it's all newbie questions...i've had quite few ppcs, but this is my first gsm device...
1.18.416 has bootloader 1.06 which doesn't has 'rtask' command needed to upgrade the radio, so you must stay in radio 1.14 if you flash this rom.

How can I downgrade the bootloader from 1.09 to 1.04

Just upgrade my X01HT to 1.33.761.4 but the bootloader also upgrade to 1.09. How can I downgrade to 1.04? Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
steiale said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
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Just downgrade to 1.04 now, thanks
Confirmation for the downgrade_spl
Hello
i got the file downgrade_spl.rar from net. After unzipping with winrar i see a file "downgrade_spl.nbf" inside it of size 769kb. Please confirm me if this is the correct file.
Also please let me know where do i find "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" file.
Thanks
This is the wrong filesize!
give me an e-mail and i`ll send u a tools.
please help me!!!!
I need tool for O2 trion, please help me.thanks
I need files, too.
Hello.
I'm searching for the files, "Downgrade_spl.nbf" and "ROMUpgradeUt.exe".
Anyone tell me where I get there, please?
and,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
This solution is useful for SPL1.09?
version 1.09
x01ht bootloader version 1.09 can unlock rightnow ma...?please
unfortunately no.. pof mentioned something about the new ROM not having the write feature..
mizuchi said:
unfortunately no.. pof mentioned something about the new ROM not having the write feature..
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correct. it requires to be able to flash the radio stack in order to unlock it, but the radio stack of that new rom seems to be read only and flashing another radio stack is not possible at this time.
I could not find in google as well but get somewhere else with slighly different filename. Not sure the same one or not. Can somebody please confirm,
Get it here.
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=DownGrade
It's possible.
Hello I'm french, first sorry for my bad english.
I just bought a V1605 from england that I have immediatly unlocked.
I have tested French qtek ROM 1.18.256... but it's very slow and there are many bugs, after that I have tested a WWE qtek ROM 1.18.416... with bootloader 1.06 just for see if TCPMP was better and it is!
But I wanted the last Qtek ROM, so I have put the original ROM of my vodafone in order to downgrade bootloader to 1.04, it's very simple!
Then I've installed the latest QTEK ROM 1.35 with bootloader 1.09, and now after few very fast manipulations , I have bootloader 1.04 and radio 1.20.
So I can test every ROMs I think...
For the moment, I can see that this ROM (1.35) is very fast, and TCPMP works better but for the video it is the same than vodafone 1.20 or tytn 1.18.416 .
ghz said:
I could not find in google as well but get somewhere else with slighly different filename. Not sure the same one or not. Can somebody please confirm,
Get it here.
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=DownGrade
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Doesn't look like those are relevant.
1.04 to current boot rom?
After downgrading to 1.04 and doing all the upgrades, is there any reason to reupgrade 1.04 to a more current boot rom?
hi there,
seems i`m not able to downgrade after after flashing the 1.35 rom. my bootloader remains 1.09 and the downgrade_spl (1.8mb rar) tool doesn`t work properly. i always have to recover my device when i try to run the upgrade. is there something i do wrong or is my downgrade_spl the wrong one?
thanks jammerlappen
additional questions: am i able to flash a) other radio roms b) complete roms with bl 1.09 and supercid?
jammerlappen said:
is there something i do wrong?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104&version=2
jammerlappen said:
additional questions: am i able to flash a) other radio roms b) complete roms with bl 1.09 and supercid?
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a) no
b) yes
may something be wrong with the link in your llink?
thank you anyway! it is good news, i didn`t break my tytn (-:
it is an old revision of a page where there where the instructions initially... so the link is not there anymore... but you said you have it.
hmmm, the files i have obviously do not work

Downgrade to original Rom

Hi all,
recently i upgrade my Tytn to last rom available here. I´m a bit disapoiting about this upgrade so i´m considering the possibility to roll-back to original rom.
Since last upgrade change my bootloader to 1.09 and my original was 1.04, to roll-back i just have to run rom package or i have to do something before the downgrade?
Thanks in advance
phariseu said:
Hi all,
recently i upgrade my Tytn to last rom available here. I´m a bit disapoiting about this upgrade so i´m considering the possibility to roll-back to original rom.
Since last upgrade change my bootloader to 1.09 and my original was 1.04, to roll-back i just have to run rom package or i have to do something before the downgrade?
Thanks in advance
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Can you tell the inital and upgraded ROM / Bootloader versions ?
Hi,
I had this package:
ROM - 1.18.255.3 07/22/06
ExtROM - 1.18.255.106
Radio - 1.03.03.10
Bootloader - 1.04
and i instaled last one available here.
Rom - 1.35.255.2 11/14/06
Bootloader - 1.09
(....)
Let me say that i bought my Tytn "free" unlock. I have no problem about this issue.
Is there any problem instaling original package? Bootlader turns again to 1.04 or remains 1.09?
Thanks in advance
i think you still can downgrade it to the original rom version as the CID is the same, but the bootloader should remain 1.09. here's a quote from the wiki.
Bootloader 1.09 DOES NOT allow DOWNGRADING of itself by means of flashing earlier ROMs. Once installed it is IMPOSSIBLE to DOWNGRADE SPL 1.09 to 1.06 or 1.04 by regular means!
harryk1372 said:
i think you still can downgrade it to the original rom version as the CID is the same, but the bootloader should remain 1.09. here's a quote from the wiki.
Bootloader 1.09 DOES NOT allow DOWNGRADING of itself by means of flashing earlier ROMs. Once installed it is IMPOSSIBLE to DOWNGRADE SPL 1.09 to 1.06 or 1.04 by regular means!
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doesn't making the device SuperCID fix this problem?
[edit] and by problem, I don't mean getting 1.04 back, I mean there's really no point since you can flash any ROM you wish anyway, and I'm seriously asking cause I'm not sure [/edit]
diseage said:
doesn't making the device SuperCID fix this problem?
[edit] and by problem, I don't mean getting 1.04 back, I mean there's really no point since you can flash any ROM you wish anyway, and I'm seriously asking cause I'm not sure [/edit]
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yes, if your device is supercid, you can flash the roms from different vendors. what is recommended for all is making the device supercid while you are still at the bootloader 1.04. if your device was made supercid while you had the original rom with the bootloader 1.04, you shouldn't have any problems with flashing whichever rom although the bottloader will remain 1.09 in your case.
You can flash any ROM that matches your CID. If you have SuperCID you can flash every ROM. The bootloader will remain 1.09 though.

Confused About Upgrading to Newer ROM and Still Keeping Bootloader 1.04?

I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
jokinawa said:
Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
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Ahhh... thanks for the push in the right direction!
Ron
Couldn't you just upgrade the Radio and the Extended Rom and still have the old boot loader?
Wouldn't this provide the same end result?
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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I had the EXACT same question...It turns out that you can upgrade the radio with the German version since your device is SuperCID. So I was able to upgrade to radio 1.27 with BL 1.06
..... and then....
I learned about the 1.01MFG wiki ... and I followed the instructions and was able to (first) flash 1.01MFG and (second) flash BL 1.04... so now I have 1.34 ROM, 1.27 Radio and 1.04 BL...
It took alot of reading and questions for me to figure it out....I hope my pain is your gain.

Downgrading to Original ROM?

i am using an at&t 8525 that is currently running Schap's 4.20, Radio 1.41.00.10 and i would like to downgrade my phone back to the original Windows Mobile 6 Rom. is this possible and if so how?
You can change to any ROM you want to. If you want to downgrade SPL, then read 4th sticky in the forum...
cassidyj88 said:
i am using an at&t 8525 that is currently running Schap's 4.20, Radio 1.41.00.10 and i would like to downgrade my phone back to the original Windows Mobile 6 Rom. is this possible and if so how?
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Mrvanx has a guide on downgrading to WM5 here.
KarhU said:
Mrvanx has a guide on downgrading to WM5 here.
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i read that and if you read the NOTE it says, "If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error." the last thing i want it to have a phone with no signal, but thank you for he reply. Anybody else have an idea?
Thanks a lot, this guide is very helping

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