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Dear all,
I have tested the WM2003SE (Version_2.06) for some days now and finally found out that one (or the combination) of these extra applications in the Extended Rom will surely KILL the phone functionality if you ever happen to soft-reboot the device while in landscape mode. Here is the list of suspected incompatibles.
- BTPSKeyUpdate_003
- cm_rm_map_o2_v3
- CprogHook.WM2003_2577
- DelAddStarMenu_092404.sa
- delshortcut
- LoadDialogInit_MS_10150402.sa
- startmenu_103wwe
I am absolutely sure that one of these will cause serious device hang once we ever happen to soft-reset while in landspace, but I'm not sure which one. So if any of you have these software installed in version 2.06, please try your best to aviod reseting while in landscape.
BTW, if you happen to know any of these software's intended uses, please also let me know since I"m not sure whether removing them can cause malfunction in other areas. Thanks
Hi there,
thanks for the alert. But i don have the problem like you said. I soft resetted my 2.06 more than 10x in landscape mode but still no reset/hang/idle/trojan virus.....
Guess i'm just a bit lucky!
:lol:
BTPSKeyUpdate_003 - cannot cause hang. It is used only once just after hard reset
cm_rm_map_o2_v3 - some O2 customisations. May cause hang.
CprogHook.WM2003_2577 - my program. Conflicts with some programs and may hang your device on boot (device simply stops responding to keys/stylus). To check this - delete \windows\startup\cproghook.exe and reboot. On most of devices it works fine, but have problems in landscape mode.
DelAddStarMenu_092404.sa - ?
delshortcut - ?
LoadDialogInit_MS_10150402.sa - this is a patch for 2.20CHS OS. Should not be used on other ROMs, but it should not hang your device.
startmenu_103wwe - ?
I've seen that removing SD-card during boot helps sometimes.
did any one faced this?
it happend twice!
my phone shows good signal reception but when some body calls in it will say "can not be reached" like it is off or no signal!
and i also can't make phone calls at that stage!
some thing is killing my phone!
i have tried both radio stack 1.14 and 1.18 and i happened in both.
now i am trying radio stack 1.14 from ROM 1.72! it seems it is not the same 1.14 from mamaich rom. by using hex editor i found that mamaich radio stack version is 1.14a!
what do you think guys?
BEWARE of changing ur radio stack.. 90% ur will have a dead phone once u wake up
Re: did any one faced this?
ammar said:
it happend twice!
my phone shows good signal reception but when some body calls in it will say "can not be reached" like it is off or no signal!
and i also can't make phone calls at that stage!
some thing is killing my phone!
i have tried both radio stack 1.14 and 1.18 and i happened in both.
now i am trying radio stack 1.14 from ROM 1.72! it seems it is not the same 1.14 from mamaich rom. by using hex editor i found that mamaich radio stack version is 1.14a!
what do you think guys?
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Yeap, your suspicious is very true. Both of them are different. But how different is different would need mamaich to answer how he first got this radio stack!!
:lol:
i used 1.08 radio stack... no problems here.... downgraded it from 1.17
Microsoft Voice Command
Anybody encounter problems with MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM?
When I soft re-set the XDAII device, it sorts of hang the devices. Always need me to soft reset a few times. I've since remove it and soft reset is ok.
MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM
:arrow: MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM working great !
Several months back, I was looking to upgrade my G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin). I had one serious problem with all the WM6 ROMs I've tried, as well as with Aserg's3.3 ROM.
The phone will intermittently not recieve calls. The caller is quickly diverted to voice mail, and I get no ring, no notification of a missed call, and no message waiting indicator. As a surgeon who's on call a fair amount, this was unacceptable. Problems with contacts or wifi settings I could work through.
I went from Fantastic Mobitz 1.1i to PDAViet 4.0.0.0.3 to Aserg 3.3 without resolution. I have tried Radio ROMs 2.20.21, 2.47.21, 2.61.21, and 2.69.21 without success in all of them.
In the end, I downgraded to the latest shipped WWE ROM, which was AKU 2.2. This has been fairly stable, but as I look at the newest Touch ROMS, I can't help but feel a new case of ROM envy coming on.
Has anyone had the same problem with the early Crossbow ROMs? If so, has it been fixed in the later ROMS? I know there are lots of people out there who have never had any missed call problems, so my question is only for those few people like myself who missed calls with early versions of WM6. Was this fixed in later versions? Specifically, which ones?
Much thanks,
Alan
Gave in to the temptation.
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
adsbar said:
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
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Which rom do you use for step 1 ? try to flash with another NVID Flash step 1 or PV_temp then flash to WM6. otherwise you can try to change the radio rom to 2.19
If the problem still exist, i think your phone is having problem with the Radio hardware.
adsbar said:
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
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u listed everything but the radio rom. Try different radio version.
2.20.x prob good for balance.
2.69.x is hte newest radio rom, a bit harsh on the battery consumption
2.19.x is old, might not work on all the gprs stuff.
JUST me experince, YMMV.
I have a imate just like yours, same IPL/SPL.
never had that problems and always flashed my imate with G4 step 1 roms.
regards
RP
tb146 said:
Which rom do you use for step 1 ? try to flash with another NVID Flash step 1 or PV_temp then flash to WM6. otherwise you can try to change the radio rom to 2.19
If the problem still exist, i think your phone is having problem with the Radio hardware.
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Sorry, had a lapse there..
My RadioROM is 2.47.21. I had tried multiple RadioROMs before in earlier WM6 versions, with no change. On the other hand, some other threads that seem related have had success with 2.19.21, so I'll give it a try. I don't use GPRS for anything anyway.
One question on that - I know you don't lose any data flashing a RadioROM, but one thread mentioned having to hard reset after the flash to get the new RadioROM functionality. Is this true? (Hoping not)
Alan
adsbar said:
Sorry, had a lapse there..
My RadioROM is 2.47.21. I had tried multiple RadioROMs before in earlier WM6 versions, with no change. On the other hand, some other threads that seem related have had success with 2.19.21, so I'll give it a try. I don't use GPRS for anything anyway.
One question on that - I know you don't lose any data flashing a RadioROM, but one thread mentioned having to hard reset after the flash to get the new RadioROM functionality. Is this true? (Hoping not)
Alan
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Radio rom is seperate. Like bios, you dont format HDD after upgrade bios. It's safe to upgrade without hard reset. However it doesnt hurt to install latest ROM also (which requires hard reset) Also what kinda 3rd party software you installed on there? commonly when prophet is in data mode, sometime voice doesnt come in, might be something doing that without you knowing.
Yes, that is true.
Radio ROM is not involve with OS ROM, you can flash your radio ROM to any version without effecting to the OS ROM and no need to hard reset.
Hard reset is only for upgrade and downgrade the OS ROM.
I have flashed to any radio ROM without Hard Reset.
Each Radio ROM has different configuration, so it can effected your battery drain because the receiving signal can be different at any radio rom.
we assume the latest radio rom is better than the earlier version but the best things, you can try all the available Radio ROM which is fit to your need.
Cheers,
I have the same problem
I have the same problem - my Imate Jamin (Prophet G3) started to miss calls from time to time after I upgraded to WM6. Tried multiple RadioROMs and multiple ROMs - no effect whatsoever
I have the same problem, but i don't know the solution.
2.19.21 is the solution for me.
rublin said:
I have the same problem - my Imate Jamin (Prophet G3) started to miss calls from time to time after I upgraded to WM6. Tried multiple RadioROMs and multiple ROMs - no effect whatsoever
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Sorry for so long to reply, but I wanted to make sure...
Since downgrading my RadioROM to 2.19.21, I have not had the missed call problem. The last time around on WM6 I tried everything from 2.20.21 on up to the latest without any improvement.
If you haven't tried 2.19.21, try it.
As a side note, I feel the Prophet Touch X ROM works great now, and I'm experiencing no bugs. However, the battery drain is more than the WM5 WWE.
YMMV
Alan
Hello all,
I Eb'd an HTC wizard (cingular 8125) running Wizard Love/NBD WM 6.
On the load screen I get:
AKU 2.3;
IPL and SPL:2.25.0001;
radio:2.25.11;
rom: 6.0.0.0.
My carrier is Tmobile.
Question 1: If my phone has this newer ROM and it takes calls on the Tmobile network it has been CID unlocked and SIM unlocked...right?
I wanna update my rom and think that I am competent enough to do so but there is alot to learn and this is not my full time gig...right.
Question 2: So, if I am correct in Q1 I should be able to flash roms right?
However when I attempt to do so the RUU gives me [error 224]. Active sync and or WMDC says its connected. (I installed the AS drivers in WMDC)
Question 3: Where do I go from here?
Question 4: The wi-fi is currently not working will a new rom potentially clear this up?
Thanks in advance for the time and advice..
grazie
hmmmm,
Well,did you updated to NBD wm6 yourself ? and how did you updated ? which method you adopted ? SoftSPL or HardSPL ?
You say its SIM unlocked as it takes calls on the Tmobile network .Did you SIM unlocked with lokiwiz03a ?
yes ! a G4 can be SIM unlocked but it can not be CID unlocked,however,it can be upgraded to wm6 rom,but with method either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL'.With your present ipl/spl 2.25.0001 and you say its NBD wm6 running,then it must have been upgraded through 'SoftSPL' method,as it uses patched ipl/spl and Cid unlocks the phone temporarily,but it never permanently CID unlocks the phone.But with 'HardSPL' ,it changes the ipl/spl to a patched ipl 2.21.0001 and spl 2.21 olip.So everytime you want to upgrade,you'll have to upgrade using 'SoftSPL' method.
could you elaborate a little more about this.
Cheers!
Hey thanks for the correspondence zabardast_1, I have been getting frustrated and I have many times contemplated going for the brick or bust approach here.
So, I have done none of the updating on this rig. I rec'd it and I wanted it primarily for wifi however I can't get the wifi card/ (sdiowlan I believe) to even recognize an AP (... I posted in the networking forum but no response.) Thus my own reasoning leads me to believe I should start from scratch with a new rom unless you know of something else.
So, I am not the most savvy and thought that all of the info I had led to SIM and CID unlocked. I just read otherwise last night and in your reply. The info I have provided is accurate the IPL, SPL, radio, although I don't know which NBD release it is; just says 6.0.0.0 and release date: 2/2/07.
I am trying to get the new rom on the my device however and I would've probably already bricked it if I could get an RUU to communicate with my wiz. I always get [Error 224] when I run it and my phone is connected through active sync. I am running vista but have installed the AS drivers for WMDC. I also tried it at work the other day with XP same situ. I then tried flashing from the bootloader screen with an NBD, Wizard Love ( w/ Italian installer?), and T-mob (226102_22610105_022511). The only one that says it will update is the Tmob ROM, however I got cold feet at the update button and canceled.
Other funny stuff I have observed that may or may not be related to the problems I am having are:
Can't install cab files ie (enable rapi or Cert SPCS) and Wiz Sys Tools couldn't read my CID block and hard_SPL G4 gives me REXX error ( SPL_Version has no value).
So, any wizdom you or anybody can drop is much appreciated and needed at this point.
Whew...
Listen carefully. G4 Wizard cannot be CID-unlocked without paying money. (And yes, you are using a G4).
What you need now is to Flash your original stock carrier ROM (Or wizard love) to get your OS back. Then either use SoftSPL or install HardSPL and flash WM6 ROM.
Thanks Starkwong,
I will try installing wizard love tomorrow at work and if that don't work I will attempt a Cing ROM (will all of these work or do I need to mind my G3's and G4's for these???)
Grazie
So, It worked using Wizard Love at work and out of the bootloader window. Now I need to:
1.) Get wifi working.
2.) Get a newer ROM
I put a post up in the networking thread, I am a tool so far as these devices are concerned so be easy on me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372811
So do I get the wifi issue resolved before I reflash???
Thx again
I don't know what you mean by "wifi not working".
Maybe it is the wifi AP doesn't allow 11Mbps (802.11b) connections?
However, going to any of the WM6 ROMs should already set the registry to allow Wizard connects to G-Only APs. Just use HardSPL/SoftSPL and flash a WM6 and you will see.
OK so "wifi not working" may indeed be a general statement...
What I mean to say is that I am not able to connect to any wireless networks for internet not home (Linksys WRT 54G v5 with ddwrt firmware) or school (university wide) or my city's wifi network. It won't even detect them at least none that Ive seen since I've rec'd this phone. So, that is what I meant by the ambiguous statement.
So, being as your last post was a success I will try as you say and post the results tomorrow. Thanks again starkwong!!!
1 quick thing however, to be sure, I can now try the hard spl or soft spl method of tricking my phone to run an upgrade to WM6?
Still not able to get wifi APs????
OK although I have been successful at reinstalling the Mfg ROM and then Hard SPL'ing my wizard thanks to ya'll I still am unable to connect to a wireless network (see one even). I have the Olip on my SPL and I installed a TNT version of WM6 and I am still at work (drunk but still here). Anyway I can't see my wireless AP and I am beginning to think its a hardware issue if thats possible, i dunno the dynamics of this system maybe thats why it was for sale. In any event as usual I am willing to try what ever you guys throw at me as you're my only hope obi wan. Alright Im gonna go home for the night and try getting on to my home network.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
Is your device a original one from phone operator? I suspect your device is a China Dopod 838 with replaced casing, because the China version has the wifi hardware removed, so wifi can't be started even if an English ROM is used.
Looks to be authentic 8125
Starkwong, the Cingular logo and the 8125 model # are on the phone case where they have been when I've seen them before in pics. Therfore, I dunno I guess it looks like every other 8125 I've seen. Can I check the SN, IME or anything to be sure?
Thanks Again!!!
Starkwong,
I am getting all the options for wifi on my phone the LHS LED flashes green when I enable it and alternates blue green when BT is enabled. So, could it still be that its a dupod? I dunno but I am going home for the night... Thanks for your help. I will try connecting to my home network when I get there.
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
First, Transformer 1.1 isn't a WM6.1 ROM but WM6.0.
Your problems are reported before, but in almost all cases one or two hard resets did the job. If not try another more clean ROM and see if you still have the same trouble.
Remember, the Prophet is a delicate device and very sensitive for all kind of fluctuations during flashing. So don't expect it to be as stable and universal as your desktop PC. If it don't suceed the first time, just do it again...
manolisf said:
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
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I have had the same problem with some other versions of WM6, posted here, also I tried to change RadioROMs and come back to WM5 - the result was the same like yours. Then I decided to replace my battery with the new one and it worked!!! Even is told that Li-Ion batteries do not have memory effect, looks like it is other way around...
Try to replace the battery.
i had the very same problem with my battery. just went off at 20%. i have gone back to wm5 for a while now. the problem remained though. therefore i bought a new (not original) battery. but strangely, this one starts showing this behaviour too, although only at 6%.
what the f**k is this??? does it have anything to do with cracking the hard spl???
why do you guys let the battery drain so much? just recharge the battery, don't let it fall that low....
anyway, my 2c.
manolisf said:
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
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I had the same problem [size=+2]before[/size] I have my old battery changed.
rondol1 said:
First, Transformer 1.1 isn't a WM6.1 ROM but WM6.0.
Your problems are reported before, but in almost all cases one or two hard resets did the job. If not try another more clean ROM and see if you still have the same trouble.
Remember, the Prophet is a delicate device and very sensitive for all kind of fluctuations during flashing. So don't expect it to be as stable and universal as your desktop PC. If it don't suceed the first time, just do it again...
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thanks for your advice! but i have tried also with "shadow my edition 2" by varavusvincent and "shadow 2.0 ce" by cloudyfa which are wm6.1 roms. no results!!! the roms are stable, i think the problem isn't on this. i think something go wrong with the spl. i have done hard reset again and again but the same problem. the transformer1.1 is very stable(i worked on it 6 months +) and i hadn't any problem with this rom before. how can i do downgrade to previous spl?
i extracted official spl 2.15.0001 (g4) from the latest o2 update (germany). so if anybody is interested, i can upload it. but it is G4 ONLY.
i reverted to wm5 and spl 2.15 myself having some very, very strange behaviour with my old battery. i tried the procedures suggested by rondol1. now everything SEEMS to be in order. but i have not discharged my battery completely. i will report back what happened.
cheerio.
I don't know in detail what the SPL does alltogether, so I can't confirm if the mentioned problem are (or can be) related to the HardSPL installation. But according to several posted solutions regarding the battery, it seems that there is definitly a relation on that issue.
To install a "normal" SPL, you can flash an original ROM from your vendor, but then everything will be bach to factory default. You can also take advantage of the offer from Chriskay above...
Hi eveyone
i m using Imate Jasjam (hermes100). i am having a problem with network signals. its just network shows dummy signals. cant make or receive calls.
it all happened when i upgraded it to WM6. i used Hard SPL v9. the rom upgrade was ok. except that it stuck at 100% and gave a message to recover. but the rom upgrade become successful. after that i was having issue of this annoying radio prob. i used radio 1.54.30.10 after that i m using 1.54.07.00. but no change is noticed.
when the radio stops working, i change the 3G setting at Comm manager to auto mode than to GSM mode an it failed to register to network and showed "No service"
Imate Jasjam (Hermes 100)
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.60 Olipro
HardSPL v9
OS Schap's WM6 pro 4.31 full
This is a very well documented problem with hermes. More and more people are starting to have this problem now.
I had the same problem and I got a new phone under warranty.
Most likely it is a radio hardware problem and probably you will need to have the motherboard changed.
If phone is still under warranty, just get it repaired by HTC. If not then you are probably out of luck.
My 2 cents
Help needed!!!
that is very odd.
my hermes is working perfectly ok except the radio. it has never been bricked. i have flashed it many times. tried all versions of Hard SPL. tried many roms. tried many radio roms. everything installs to the last dip.
but still no success regarding radio signal problem.
i have noticed that when one sim stops showing network, i put other sim having other network coberage and it works. but jus for 10 to 12 hours. after that i have to change it back. and it works for 10 hours. but it really getting me on my nerve
please share if helpful to me.
PLEASE ADVISE ME if i get my Hermes fixed by changing its mother board, should i go for WM6 and newer radio or not.
thanks