Several months back, I was looking to upgrade my G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin). I had one serious problem with all the WM6 ROMs I've tried, as well as with Aserg's3.3 ROM.
The phone will intermittently not recieve calls. The caller is quickly diverted to voice mail, and I get no ring, no notification of a missed call, and no message waiting indicator. As a surgeon who's on call a fair amount, this was unacceptable. Problems with contacts or wifi settings I could work through.
I went from Fantastic Mobitz 1.1i to PDAViet 4.0.0.0.3 to Aserg 3.3 without resolution. I have tried Radio ROMs 2.20.21, 2.47.21, 2.61.21, and 2.69.21 without success in all of them.
In the end, I downgraded to the latest shipped WWE ROM, which was AKU 2.2. This has been fairly stable, but as I look at the newest Touch ROMS, I can't help but feel a new case of ROM envy coming on.
Has anyone had the same problem with the early Crossbow ROMs? If so, has it been fixed in the later ROMS? I know there are lots of people out there who have never had any missed call problems, so my question is only for those few people like myself who missed calls with early versions of WM6. Was this fixed in later versions? Specifically, which ones?
Much thanks,
Alan
Gave in to the temptation.
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
adsbar said:
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
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Which rom do you use for step 1 ? try to flash with another NVID Flash step 1 or PV_temp then flash to WM6. otherwise you can try to change the radio rom to 2.19
If the problem still exist, i think your phone is having problem with the Radio hardware.
adsbar said:
After waiting a few days for a reply, I couldn't resist - I flashed Prophet Touch X when it became available.
I love the ROM - Fast, nifty touch features, Cube, etc.
However, I still have the same problems - I frequently and intermittently do not receive calls, there is no missed call indicator or missed phone numbers showing.
Does anyone know the cause or a fix? I can't bear the thought of going back to WM5!
My device is a G3 Prophet (Imate Jamin):
IPL 2.20
SPL 2.20.0000
Protocol 4.1.13.24
OS 10.0.0.0
EXTRom Prophet Touch X
Alan
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u listed everything but the radio rom. Try different radio version.
2.20.x prob good for balance.
2.69.x is hte newest radio rom, a bit harsh on the battery consumption
2.19.x is old, might not work on all the gprs stuff.
JUST me experince, YMMV.
I have a imate just like yours, same IPL/SPL.
never had that problems and always flashed my imate with G4 step 1 roms.
regards
RP
tb146 said:
Which rom do you use for step 1 ? try to flash with another NVID Flash step 1 or PV_temp then flash to WM6. otherwise you can try to change the radio rom to 2.19
If the problem still exist, i think your phone is having problem with the Radio hardware.
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Sorry, had a lapse there..
My RadioROM is 2.47.21. I had tried multiple RadioROMs before in earlier WM6 versions, with no change. On the other hand, some other threads that seem related have had success with 2.19.21, so I'll give it a try. I don't use GPRS for anything anyway.
One question on that - I know you don't lose any data flashing a RadioROM, but one thread mentioned having to hard reset after the flash to get the new RadioROM functionality. Is this true? (Hoping not)
Alan
adsbar said:
Sorry, had a lapse there..
My RadioROM is 2.47.21. I had tried multiple RadioROMs before in earlier WM6 versions, with no change. On the other hand, some other threads that seem related have had success with 2.19.21, so I'll give it a try. I don't use GPRS for anything anyway.
One question on that - I know you don't lose any data flashing a RadioROM, but one thread mentioned having to hard reset after the flash to get the new RadioROM functionality. Is this true? (Hoping not)
Alan
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Radio rom is seperate. Like bios, you dont format HDD after upgrade bios. It's safe to upgrade without hard reset. However it doesnt hurt to install latest ROM also (which requires hard reset) Also what kinda 3rd party software you installed on there? commonly when prophet is in data mode, sometime voice doesnt come in, might be something doing that without you knowing.
Yes, that is true.
Radio ROM is not involve with OS ROM, you can flash your radio ROM to any version without effecting to the OS ROM and no need to hard reset.
Hard reset is only for upgrade and downgrade the OS ROM.
I have flashed to any radio ROM without Hard Reset.
Each Radio ROM has different configuration, so it can effected your battery drain because the receiving signal can be different at any radio rom.
we assume the latest radio rom is better than the earlier version but the best things, you can try all the available Radio ROM which is fit to your need.
Cheers,
I have the same problem
I have the same problem - my Imate Jamin (Prophet G3) started to miss calls from time to time after I upgraded to WM6. Tried multiple RadioROMs and multiple ROMs - no effect whatsoever
I have the same problem, but i don't know the solution.
2.19.21 is the solution for me.
rublin said:
I have the same problem - my Imate Jamin (Prophet G3) started to miss calls from time to time after I upgraded to WM6. Tried multiple RadioROMs and multiple ROMs - no effect whatsoever
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Sorry for so long to reply, but I wanted to make sure...
Since downgrading my RadioROM to 2.19.21, I have not had the missed call problem. The last time around on WM6 I tried everything from 2.20.21 on up to the latest without any improvement.
If you haven't tried 2.19.21, try it.
As a side note, I feel the Prophet Touch X ROM works great now, and I'm experiencing no bugs. However, the battery drain is more than the WM5 WWE.
YMMV
Alan
Related
Dear all,
I have tested the WM2003SE (Version_2.06) for some days now and finally found out that one (or the combination) of these extra applications in the Extended Rom will surely KILL the phone functionality if you ever happen to soft-reboot the device while in landscape mode. Here is the list of suspected incompatibles.
- BTPSKeyUpdate_003
- cm_rm_map_o2_v3
- CprogHook.WM2003_2577
- DelAddStarMenu_092404.sa
- delshortcut
- LoadDialogInit_MS_10150402.sa
- startmenu_103wwe
I am absolutely sure that one of these will cause serious device hang once we ever happen to soft-reset while in landspace, but I'm not sure which one. So if any of you have these software installed in version 2.06, please try your best to aviod reseting while in landscape.
BTW, if you happen to know any of these software's intended uses, please also let me know since I"m not sure whether removing them can cause malfunction in other areas. Thanks
Hi there,
thanks for the alert. But i don have the problem like you said. I soft resetted my 2.06 more than 10x in landscape mode but still no reset/hang/idle/trojan virus.....
Guess i'm just a bit lucky!
:lol:
BTPSKeyUpdate_003 - cannot cause hang. It is used only once just after hard reset
cm_rm_map_o2_v3 - some O2 customisations. May cause hang.
CprogHook.WM2003_2577 - my program. Conflicts with some programs and may hang your device on boot (device simply stops responding to keys/stylus). To check this - delete \windows\startup\cproghook.exe and reboot. On most of devices it works fine, but have problems in landscape mode.
DelAddStarMenu_092404.sa - ?
delshortcut - ?
LoadDialogInit_MS_10150402.sa - this is a patch for 2.20CHS OS. Should not be used on other ROMs, but it should not hang your device.
startmenu_103wwe - ?
I've seen that removing SD-card during boot helps sometimes.
did any one faced this?
it happend twice!
my phone shows good signal reception but when some body calls in it will say "can not be reached" like it is off or no signal!
and i also can't make phone calls at that stage!
some thing is killing my phone!
i have tried both radio stack 1.14 and 1.18 and i happened in both.
now i am trying radio stack 1.14 from ROM 1.72! it seems it is not the same 1.14 from mamaich rom. by using hex editor i found that mamaich radio stack version is 1.14a!
what do you think guys?
BEWARE of changing ur radio stack.. 90% ur will have a dead phone once u wake up
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ammar said:
it happend twice!
my phone shows good signal reception but when some body calls in it will say "can not be reached" like it is off or no signal!
and i also can't make phone calls at that stage!
some thing is killing my phone!
i have tried both radio stack 1.14 and 1.18 and i happened in both.
now i am trying radio stack 1.14 from ROM 1.72! it seems it is not the same 1.14 from mamaich rom. by using hex editor i found that mamaich radio stack version is 1.14a!
what do you think guys?
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Yeap, your suspicious is very true. Both of them are different. But how different is different would need mamaich to answer how he first got this radio stack!!
:lol:
i used 1.08 radio stack... no problems here.... downgraded it from 1.17
Microsoft Voice Command
Anybody encounter problems with MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM?
When I soft re-set the XDAII device, it sorts of hang the devices. Always need me to soft reset a few times. I've since remove it and soft reset is ok.
MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM
:arrow: MS Voice Command in WM2003SE ROM working great !
Hello everyone!
I recently upgraded my Cingular 8125 (G4 version) to WM6 Farias edition. I've also installed the radio rom version 02.61.11 but noticed that at times call do not come in and when voicemails are left i do not get a notification. Dont know if its due to the radio version i'm running so i decided to ask the rest of Cingular 8125 users to see if they have a radio rom that may be more stable.
I also noticed that GRPS disconnects when a call comes in and it re-connects when the call its released. I've heard of certain radio roms that actually stay connected while the phone its been used... anyone knows which one will that be?
Thanks in advance!
Will V.
WillJV said:
Hello everyone!
I recently upgraded my Cingular 8125 (G4 version) to WM6 Farias edition. I've also installed the radio rom version 02.61.11 but noticed that at times call do not come in and when voicemails are left i do not get a notification. Dont know if its due to the radio version i'm running so i decided to ask the rest of Cingular 8125 users to see if they have a radio rom that may be more stable.
I also noticed that GRPS disconnects when a call comes in and it re-connects when the call its released. I've heard of certain radio roms that actually stay connected while the phone its been used... anyone knows which one will that be?
Thanks in advance!
Will V.
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The T-Mobile 2.19 radio is the one that most use to alleviate missed calls/voicemails. The newer ones have benefits to signal aquisition and signal strength over this and stock radios, but what good does that do you if the calls and voicemails dont come through
There are some on Cingular in the US that have radios above 2.19 working with no issues but they seem to be few and far between.
I have also not had any issues at all with the 2.61 radio with Faria's rom in my signature. How well it works with other roms I don't know as I haven't flashed my wizard since I flashed that combination on it. My wife uses it now and has had no call issues.
Thanks Zzan!
I downloaded the tmobile 02.19.11 radio and tried to flash my phone with it but got the following error message:
ERROR [300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This update utility cannot be used for yoru PDA phone. Please get newer update utility.
I've gotten several replies from other Cingular 8125 users who like you have told me it'll fix my sms/voicemail problem.
I just tried installing Cingular_2.25.11_Radinly.zip and i got the same error message:
ERROR [300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This update utility cannot be used for yoru PDA phone. Please get newer update utility.
I'm loving WM6 but the fact that some calls dont come in and I have to continously keep checking my voicemails to see if new vm came in pretty much sucks.... I'm considering going back to the stock rom since i cant get neither radio version to work on my phone...
WillJV said:
I just tried installing Cingular_2.25.11_Radinly.zip and i got the same error message:
ERROR [300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This update utility cannot be used for yoru PDA phone. Please get newer update utility.
I'm loving WM6 but the fact that some calls dont come in and I have to continously keep checking my voicemails to see if new vm came in pretty much sucks.... I'm considering going back to the stock rom since i cant get neither radio version to work on my phone...
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Have you tried running it from more than one computer? I have seen where this works for some people. Also try a soft reset of the phone and a reboot of the pc before attempting. If that doesn't work you can try booting straight to the bootloader then kicking off the install once you see USB in the corner. In any case you should be fine on WM6 if you can get the 2.19 radio to flash.
I just tried another PC here at work. I installed MS Activesinc 4.5 and tried flashing it with 2.19.11 but same error message.
I'll continue to try and post any progress (if any) LOL
I"m going to try reseting the phone and restarting the pc now.
Thanks for helping me out giving other suggestions.
Will V.
Done deal!!!
Finally got it to Flash using the Tmobile UK 02.19.11 version.
I replaced the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe with the one included in the WM6 Faria Step 4 folder.
Ran the update utility and it flashed the phone without a problem.
Time to test it but i've gotten several replies stating that it should be a lot more stable than the one i had.
Thanks again and hope the info above could help other users having the same problem.
brother.... So i have the same issue with my 8125 ..G4 with wm6...missed call and no notification for voicemail...
tried radio 2.69 farias ..still no use...
Have u been able to resolve it? please help me...Let me install the Tmobile UK 2.19 radio now....
please advice.....
Hi!
long time viewer first time poster.
I have G4 CID LOCKED Cingular 8125 with mfrazzz's Crossbow Reloaded 1.7.1 I have wizard love Rom as Base.
I really tried hard to update (I guess it is really a downgrade) my original Radio from 02.25.11 to 2.19.11 but no matter what I do, it failed.
I tried with every romupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe i could find but I get the same result everytime.
ON PC: I get 260 Error (tried in two machines same error message)
and
On my Wizard: stuck in this 3 colored screen. I see 3 color screen with "RUU" in right upper corner and "USB" on left bottom with IPL/SPL version showing in red If i press reset button, it will boot back to mobile windows fine.
Can anybody help me?
My rest device info:
ROM Version: 2.18.0.0 WWE
ROM date:2/14/06
IPL/SPL: 2.25.0001
GSM:02.25.11
Protocol version? 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: faria V5.0
My Downgrade
All I did was use the rom upgrade utility from the "wizard love rom" (the one that is in Italian) and the T-mobile radio rom listed in the Wiki.
Worked like a charm!
thanks for the reply..
but of course i tried that already.
i think error 260 is communication related issue. PC communicate perfectly with ActiveSync.. but when it reboot for the flashing to occur,it just get stucked as if pc is not communicating with the wizard.
is downgrade to 2.19.11 really worthy?
nic2mit said:
thanks for the reply..
but of course i tried that already.
i think error 260 is communication related issue. PC communicate perfectly with ActiveSync.. but when it reboot for the flashing to occur,it just get stucked as if pc is not communicating with the wizard.
is downgrade to 2.19.11 really worthy?
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Is your device actually booting up? If so, just download one of the radio ONLY roms. It won't matter whether you have a CID locked phone or not and the radio ONLY rom will not touch the IPL/SPL.
Having said that, is there a reason why you want to downgrade to 2.19? Are you having missed calls issues?
Hi titus666,
I am having the same ROM and missed call issues too.Even when i am on a full coverage area my wizard signals seems to dropping,coming back,dropping ....
What could be the probalem .Any recommended Radio ROMS's.
Probably you read this already
xdawiz said:
Hi titus666,
I am having the same ROM and missed call issues too.Even when i am on a full coverage area my wizard signals seems to dropping,coming back,dropping ....
What could be the probalem .Any recommended Radio ROMS's.
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A little bit off regarding your initial post but here´s good feedback on how both radios behave.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312834
I've had some problems as well.
I used the tool that came in the download to downgrade to 2.19 (I am having missed calls problem) and it won't.
I'm using a Windows Vista and already did the whole thing to update drivers with the one given on the forum over here, yet, everytime I run the thing it crashes and then I have to go through it all over again.
Its like the driver just doesn't work anymore, even though I have tried "re-updating" it to the one that I downloaded here, unlike the real Roms this one just won't go throguh and wait for the 3 colored screen to come up, just freezes before.
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
First, Transformer 1.1 isn't a WM6.1 ROM but WM6.0.
Your problems are reported before, but in almost all cases one or two hard resets did the job. If not try another more clean ROM and see if you still have the same trouble.
Remember, the Prophet is a delicate device and very sensitive for all kind of fluctuations during flashing. So don't expect it to be as stable and universal as your desktop PC. If it don't suceed the first time, just do it again...
manolisf said:
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
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I have had the same problem with some other versions of WM6, posted here, also I tried to change RadioROMs and come back to WM5 - the result was the same like yours. Then I decided to replace my battery with the new one and it worked!!! Even is told that Li-Ion batteries do not have memory effect, looks like it is other way around...
Try to replace the battery.
i had the very same problem with my battery. just went off at 20%. i have gone back to wm5 for a while now. the problem remained though. therefore i bought a new (not original) battery. but strangely, this one starts showing this behaviour too, although only at 6%.
what the f**k is this??? does it have anything to do with cracking the hard spl???
why do you guys let the battery drain so much? just recharge the battery, don't let it fall that low....
anyway, my 2c.
manolisf said:
After i did the hardspl and upgrade to WM6.1 i have 2 serious problems. The first: when the battery is less than 20% and do or accept calls, after some seconds the pda reboot when i speaking. the second: i can send but can't recieve data via bluetooth connection. the beam is activate and the pda discoverable. even pair the device it can't receive anything!!!
ipl 2.20
spl 2.G3.4PDA
rom transform 1.1
Can these problems fix??? If not how to downgrade to the previous spl? I tried with pdaviet but nothing. thank you...
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I had the same problem [size=+2]before[/size] I have my old battery changed.
rondol1 said:
First, Transformer 1.1 isn't a WM6.1 ROM but WM6.0.
Your problems are reported before, but in almost all cases one or two hard resets did the job. If not try another more clean ROM and see if you still have the same trouble.
Remember, the Prophet is a delicate device and very sensitive for all kind of fluctuations during flashing. So don't expect it to be as stable and universal as your desktop PC. If it don't suceed the first time, just do it again...
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thanks for your advice! but i have tried also with "shadow my edition 2" by varavusvincent and "shadow 2.0 ce" by cloudyfa which are wm6.1 roms. no results!!! the roms are stable, i think the problem isn't on this. i think something go wrong with the spl. i have done hard reset again and again but the same problem. the transformer1.1 is very stable(i worked on it 6 months +) and i hadn't any problem with this rom before. how can i do downgrade to previous spl?
i extracted official spl 2.15.0001 (g4) from the latest o2 update (germany). so if anybody is interested, i can upload it. but it is G4 ONLY.
i reverted to wm5 and spl 2.15 myself having some very, very strange behaviour with my old battery. i tried the procedures suggested by rondol1. now everything SEEMS to be in order. but i have not discharged my battery completely. i will report back what happened.
cheerio.
I don't know in detail what the SPL does alltogether, so I can't confirm if the mentioned problem are (or can be) related to the HardSPL installation. But according to several posted solutions regarding the battery, it seems that there is definitly a relation on that issue.
To install a "normal" SPL, you can flash an original ROM from your vendor, but then everything will be bach to factory default. You can also take advantage of the offer from Chriskay above...
Hi,
im currently running the following setup:
phoenix 2.51
radio 1.71
hard spl 1.22
with o2 as service provider in germany.
since some flashing and testing i discovered that after a few seconds of speaking i get massive interferences in the call. my calling partner cant understand me, but i can hear him.
i already flashed back to 6.1 wwe official rom but the error still persists.
does anybody have ideas which could help me?
RsRichard said:
Hi,
im currently running the following setup:
phoenix 2.51
radio 1.71
hard spl 1.22
with o2 as service provider in germany.
since some flashing and testing i discovered that after a few seconds of speaking i get massive interferences in the call. my calling partner cant understand me, but i can hear him.
i already flashed back to 6.1 wwe official rom but the error still persists.
does anybody have ideas which could help me?
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Try a different radio, eg 1.65.28.25. Works very well, and low power consumption to boot.
use other radio rom
I had the same problem.
Many noises, people on the other side couldn't hear me as well as dropping line.
I also tried different combination in spl/rom/radio (also restoring original spl/rom/radio).
I solved by sending phone to service reparing (warranty).
I don't know exactly what they did since ther was no physical repair but they said they only upgraded something (which sounds strange to me since ther's no official upgrade for my country from HTC) but now it works fine.
shinji_73 said:
I solved by sending phone to service reparing (warranty).
I don't know exactly what they did since ther was no physical repair but they said they only upgraded something (which sounds strange to me since ther's no official upgrade for my country from HTC) but now it works fine.
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So, what's the build number of ROM and also radio number? If it is one not on the board, any chance of dumping the ROM and posting it?
i tried with 1.5xx roms, 1.65.28.25 etc. and still have the problem.....
rling said:
So, what's the build number of ROM and also radio number? If it is one not on the board, any chance of dumping the ROM and posting it?
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Rom version: 1.31.408.09
Date rom: 10/30/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03W
It seems to be the "standard" configuration...
But now on the splash screen there's no more "Niki pro" trace...D 1.31 as it used to be.
ok... i again tried several configurations and also flashed the complete original rom. the error still is there what can i do now? is there any possibility to format the whole phone except the bootloader?
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllppppppppppp
RsRichard said:
ok... i again tried several configurations and also flashed the complete original rom. the error still is there what can i do now? is there any possibility to format the whole phone except the bootloader?
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The radio, SPL and ROM cover the entire phone's OS. The official HTC WWE release 2.09.405.1 has all three in it. Disable the Hardspl (if other than HardSPL 1.22) by flashing the sspl, then flash this ROM. This will return the phone to original state. You might need to do this if you need to send the phone back for warranty service.
I'm going to send my phone to service again because I got my problems back...because I definetly think I got some "hardware" problems...
If I shake my phone some metallic noises can be heard inside, did you try something similar?
any news on this topic? i still cant use my niki.... im still receiving massive intereferences when calling since my flashing orgy. how to put it back to a fully OEM state without any mods?
nothing? will i really have to send my phone to the service ..... please not, i damaged one of the guarantee seels (back of the phone, right to the camera) mit the pen once....
RsRichard said:
nothing? will i really have to send my phone to the service ..... please not, i damaged one of the guarantee seels (back of the phone, right to the camera) mit the pen once....
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it must be radio issue - please try to flash a complete rom+radio, flash from microSD this time, rename the nbh file to NIKEIMG.nbh, enter bootloader and flash.
*push* still not working