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I read an article on Ipadforums that said Microsoft will release Microsoft Office for IPad in Feb. 2012. This is great news that they bringing this to mobile platform but how long do you think it'll be before they give Android some love also? This will kinda be a big deal as this could finally be the word processing capabilities that students and other people have been yearning for on Android. I would hope Microsoft would have the best version of word processing considering it's their format n programs that's most widely used in pc community. Do you think it could be implemented in full capacity or that it might have to be dumbed down some.
Just a f.y.I. In case you haven't heard this news. It's been rumored for a while but now I think it's official.
Is this a full Office suite or is it their answer to Google Docs? I think that is called MS Office 365 or something similar. I'd be curious to know. This is where software is headed in the future anyway so it would make sense if that is what it is.
edit:// I just looked at MS Office 365 and it will already work on our devices including the Prime. It is cloud hosted software though and is $6 a month.
For some reason knowing Microsoft, they will drag their feet for a couple years, and if it ever does drop for android i would imagine it to be a very very very water downed version. (It pretty much depends on Microsoft's relation ship with Google). Now i have no basis for this opinion, other than the last several versions of office for mac. Despite Microsoft having one of the best word processing suites for Windows they always seem to make the mac version seem cumbersome and not as good.
skeptikal said:
Is this a full Office suite or is it their answer to Google Docs? I think that is called MS Office 365 or something similar. I'd be curious to know. This is where software is headed in the future anyway so it would make sense if that is what it is.
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I just checked the article again and it doesn't specify if full suite or not. Plus article won't name sources. I think it's against rules to link an article from another forum, so I didn't. I'm curious also as to how much can be expected out of it. Apple has iworks to compensate for non existing Microsoft office before. Bit Android never really had anything like iworks. Only third party apps n such. Which some work great also but hardly any that let's you do everything or at least a suite of apps from same developer to compliment each other.
lmm112190 said:
For some reason knowing Microsoft, they will drag their feet for a couple years, and if it ever does drop for android i would imagine it to be a very very very water downed version. (It pretty much depends on Microsoft's relation ship with Google). Now i have no basis for this opinion, other than the last several versions of office for mac. Despite Microsoft having one of the best word processing suites for Windows they always seem to make the mac version seem cumbersome and not as good.
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Supposedly Microsoft just updated or is going to update the Mac version. I wouldn't think apple/Microsoft relationship could be better than one with Microsoft n google. Apple has been their arch nemesis for years. Apple has always cried Bill Gates stole their tech and made him the richest man in the world because of it..lol not bill fault they sold him the rights when he knew the true potential of it.
I use office pretty regularly and am actually considering paying 6 bucks a month for the cloud version. $72 bucks a year sounds sort of reasonable to me for an official MS Office product. Worth a trial at least.
For the Transformer series, an awesome word-processing application is essential. I find it hilarious that there is really no good one on Android yet.
Polaris is absolutely awful.
My money is on Google to finally update their Google Docs app to make it half-decent for tablets. But right now, it is a disgrace.
We also have LibreOffice announcing an Android version slated for 2012. Microsoft has slowly been releasing mobile versions of their software so I am sure there will be a Office 365 version out there eventually.
I have used a few Android Office Suites, and my favorite is QuickOffice Pro HD, specifically designed for tablets. Allows for opening, editing and authoring Word, Excel, PowerPoint and PDFs. It also supports "save as" for Office 2010, 2007, and 2003.
It was Amazon Free App of the Day a month ago, and I love it. Best thing is that it hooks to many different cloud document storage sites, like GoogleDocs and Dropbox.
http://www.quickoffice.com/quickoffice_pro_hd_android/ for screen caps. It's as close as you can get to the real MS Office for a tablet, I think.
The phone version (non-HD version) is not that great, IMO. The tablet specific one is pretty darned good.
xTRICKYxx said:
For the Transformer series, an awesome word-processing application is essential. I find it hilarious that there is really no good one on Android yet.
Polaris is absolutely awful.
My money is on Google to finally update their Google Docs app to make it half-decent for tablets. But right now, it is a disgrace.
We also have LibreOffice announcing an Android version slated for 2012. Microsoft has slowly been releasing mobile versions of their software so I am sure there will be a Office 365 version out there eventually.
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I'd not say there is no good one. I quite like QuickOffice.
I agree that there is no good office suite for Android as of yet. I prefer QuickOffice mostly because of the cloud integration, but all other features are roughly the same as other apps (I actually like the look of Polaris best, but no dropbox integration makes it worthless to me). I would be thrilled to see a full office suite from Microsoft or anyone else (hoping LibreOffice comes through!). But really, all we need is for Microsoft to open MS Live office to mobile browsers - that would be enough for me, though I would rather have an app like QuickOffice with full cloud integration and full formatting features and spell check(!). It seems silly to me that nothing like that exists. Hell, when I type posts on this forum, I get more formatting options than most, if not all, office apps and it has spell check!
Yeah, quick office HD pro is a good one. I have it on my iPad along with Office2 HD, Docs to Go premium, and Iworks Pages. Also PDF expert n PDF reader. Got several different ones just in case one does something the other doesn't do.
So for Android, as I'm hearing, quick office HD is the way to go. At least until Microsoft releases office. I mainly use these apps to make/edit my resumes in such. Some apps act funny with formatting n such. Reading and filling out pdf'sworks well with PDF expert n PDF reader.
Does Android have those others I mentioned, minus Pages? I think I've seen docs2go. I have quick office on my Atrix4g. Will definitely get the HD version for Prime once I pick it up.
When I consider the numerous areas where Google is in direct competition with MS,l I would be very suprprised if MS offered any products which even remotely benefited the Android platform. Of course, once Windows 8 is released for portable devices, the odds of an Android version of Office, will probably approach zip.
All I know is that the SINGLE biggest thing preventing tablets from being able to serve as an effective replacement for ultra slim laptops is the lack of word processing abilities. If tablets were able to do that, they would be able to do pretty much everything I use my laptop for. Word processing is absolutely KEY for any sort of computer device that is supposed to have practical benefit for your life. As a student, it is essentially the only thing I do on my laptop that is entirely practicality-focused rather than media focused that tablets can't do.
While I'm probably going to be getting the TF Prime, the only thing holding me back is if I really need it. If it was capable of word processing, that question would be absolutely erased from my mind. Anyone in the tablet industry needs to jump on making that happen.
I highly doubt Microsoft will release anything worthwhile on Android.
Personally, I'm holding out for LibreOffice, though I also have a faint hope that Google might actually develop their Gdocs app into a full office suite app, something with the same capabilities of the desktop version at least.
If none of those happen... well, here's hoping for dual-booting Android/Windows 8.
LibreOffice for Android is in the works as I read somewhere. I much prefer LibreOffice to MsOffice. I also don't like much what Android has to offer, because no app saves odt files, which I prefer. Still - fully functional web Google Docs would be enough for me.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/02/09/windows-on-arm-woa-detailed-wont-support-x86-apps/
Steven Sinofsky of the Windows 8 team has detailed, in an astounding 8600-word blog post, everything one needs to know about the upcoming Windows On ARM, or WOA, release. A developer preview is expected to be released with the x86 Consumer Preview on February 29th, and he shared some important details about the release.
Windows on ARM is going to be compatible with current ARM infrastructures (Cortex A9, A15, etc), such as chips used in iOS and Android tablets. As a result, much of the codebase is not reusable and existing Windows apps will not work, period.
The final release is to come pre-installed with a selected number of first-party applications such as Word, Excel, Powerpoint and OneNote, all developed specifically for touch interfaces. All other apps will be downloaded from the upcoming Windows Store, and must be compiled to work explicitly with ARM. Think of this as the end to the “If it worked on Windows XP, it will work on Windows 8″ era.
Developers can create and release apps both for branches of Windows 8 — x86 and ARM — but they must meet the compiling requirements for both independently. Windows on ARM will also not be distributed through retail channels, nor will images be available for purchase; they will be distributed as firmware images built for specific hardware, much like different versions of Android are incompatible with one another. Sinofsky writers, “With WOA you can look forward to integrated, end-to-end products—hardware, firmware and WOA software, all built from the ground up. Over the useful lifetime of the PC, the provided software will be serviced and improved.” This means that any upgrades will be a collaboration between Microsoft and the OEM, much like we see in Android today. This has both its advantages and disadvantages, since software tailored to specific hardware tends to work better, but upgrades also take longer to be released.
A curious change, and one that will likely be embraced by existing smartphone users, will be a lack of an explicit “sleep mode.” Instead, Sinofsky explains, when the screen is off the hardware will enable a “Connected Standby” state, which lasts for weeks.
Finally, how does he defend his decision to proscribe existing Windows apps from being ported to WOA?
“If we enabled the broad porting of existing code we would fail to deliver on our commitment to longer battery life, predictable performance, and especially a reliable experience over time. The conventions used by today’s Windows apps do not necessarily provide this, whether it is background processes, polling loops, timers, system hooks, startup programs, registry changes, kernel mode code, admin rights, unsigned drivers, add-ins, or a host of other common techniques.”
This will be a smart decision in the long run, but in the short term it will mean a dearth of apps available to download or purchase. Let’s hope Windows developers see the financial potential in porting their apps to ARM; Apple has found success with its Mac App Store, and that caters to a fraction of the same market. Whether WOA will catch on in the age of the iPad is a question everyone is waiting for an answer to.
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Came across this today, looks very interesting for us, does this mean a fully running version of windows could be run on our primes very soon? (would love to dual boot with windows and android)
Thoughts? sorry if its been brought up before
source - http://m.intomobile.com/2012/03/08/microsoft-challenges-onlive-over-its-windows-7onipad-software/
"OnLive is facing some heat from Microsoft today. The company, which provides an application that allows users of Apple’s iPad and Google Android tablets to run a hosted Windows 7 environment on their tablets, is reportedly utilizing Microsoft’s software without the proper licenses in place.
In a blog post on Microsoft’s Volume Licensing blog, Corporate VP of Licensing Joe Matz outlined terms companies must abide by when they provide Windows virtualization, or virtual machines that run the Windows and Office environment. Mr. Matz’s post stated that Microsoft is actively working with OnLive to bring the company in compliance with Microsoft’s Licensing terms, and likely reassured its partners that the investigation into OnLive is being treated as an issue that Microsoft is taking seriously.
The issue was brought to light via a Gartner analysis dating back to February 29th, which called out the services potential licensing risks. For a small monthly fee per user, OnLive gave users access to a virtual Windows desktop running Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer 9. Per the virtualization licensing policy, providing access in this way requires end users (Onlive’s customers) to have valid license keys for these products.
As a result of the Gartner report (or, more likely, pressure from other partners/licensees), Microsoft decided to go public with news of the investigation into OnLive, and to find a way to bring OnLive into compliance. Over coming weeks, we expect OnLive will announce a licensing deal with Microsoft that will allow users of its service to continue using the OnLive Desktop service, though the move could raise prices above the current $4.99 per user fee schedule.
Here’s hoping OnLive and Micrsoft are able to come to terms fairly quickly, as the OnLive Desktop service is a potentially powerful tool for iPad and Android tablet users."
OnLive Desktop is already available. It's in the Marke... er, on Play.
Now, we'll see if OnLive was playing monkey business with Windows and Office licensing. If so, the service could disappear pretty quickly.
All I see is a price rise
It's a pretty decent service. It nicely addresses the nagging problem that all Android Office-like apps are totally lame, and mostly unusable (I've purchased and tested them all).
Anything much more than $4.99 per month would be a deal-killer for me, though, since all you get is a subset of Office plus a browser. Not enough to be shelling out, say, even low three figures per year.
Look for Microsoft to once again screw up a good and innovative idea. OnLive doesn't threaten to significantly cannibalize Office sales, because it's a limited solution to a limited problem, not an alternative to actually owning Office on your Windows or Mac machine. Consequently, if MS could shake just a dollar per user per month out of OnLive it would be, for all intents and purposes, free money for them. But no. They'll get piggish and force the service's price up to a level which is unsupportable, thus driving OnLive out of business.
DrDawg said:
Look for Microsoft to once again screw up a good and innovative idea. OnLive doesn't threaten to significantly cannibalize Office sales, because it's a limited solution to a limited problem, not an alternative to actually owning Office on your Windows or Mac machine. Consequently, if MS could shake just a dollar per user per month out of OnLive it would be, for all intents and purposes, free money for them. But no. They'll get piggish and force the service's price up to a level which is unsupportable, thus driving OnLive out of business.
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I think Microsoft has every right to be upset about this. Nobody has a right to use Office without paying for it, whether or not any given user would otherwise purchase the product. And if Microsoft doesn't defend their licensing, it opens them up for numerous problems.
Seriously, why should OnLive be able to make a business out of essentially stealing other companies' products? If they can't figure out a way to do it profitably and legally, then that's their problem, not Microsoft's.
so i just downloaded it to see what its like and found that its the touch version of windows. it got me thinking is there anyway to make a desktop version of windows the touch version so when we connect with splashtop it works like its meant to be on a tablet?
jellydroid13 said:
so i just downloaded it to see what its like and found that its the touch version of windows. it got me thinking is there anyway to make a desktop version of windows the touch version so when we connect with splashtop it works like its meant to be on a tablet?
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I believe there is a Tablet Interface button or control panel somewhere in Windows 7. I just can't recall where I saw it, but it was in the past week on my system at home.
wynand32 said:
OnLive Desktop is already available. It's in the Marke... er, on Play.
Now, we'll see if OnLive was playing monkey business with Windows and Office licensing. If so, the service could disappear pretty quickly.
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Not in Germany, no, it is not.
Web site: http://www.cs.teilar.gr/8/
The Department of Computer Science and Telecommunications at the TEI (Technological Educational Institute) of Larissa, Greece has partnered with Microsoft Hellas to launch another developer contest. The program will be broken into two parts, the first being a month-long phase to train participants in Windows 8 app development. A team of personnel will organise workshops and camps to help students develop knowledge and experience in Windows programming. The second phase is the actual contest, where participants will build a Windows 8 app. It's good to see Microsoft also addressing and pushing development for the desktop OS too.
The competition is open for apps that have not been publicly available on the Windows Store prior to April 7th, 2013 (see website for more details). The submitted apps will be judged by a panel and winners will be announced on May 21st. The five winning placements will see developers receive a Nokia Lumia 620, while all qualified participants will receive a certificate for their efforts.
Apps will be judged on the following criteria:
- Originality & Innovation (30%)
- Programming Level (30%)
- Visual Appeal (20%)
- Consumer Appeal/Focus (20%)
The contest has already kicked off (it did so on April 7th) and will close on May 10th, so be sure to stay tuned for the announced winners. If you're an eligible developer, remember to submit your app before time is up. Also, if you're using a touch screen, the website has been optimised for that added touch of awesome. It's well worth checking out and is an impressive feat of design and deployment.
Web site: http://www.cs.teilar.gr/8/
Big news was that Microsoft Office was now available for Android is being made completely free.
That means you can edit documents from your Android phone, and you won’t have to pay Microsoft $10 per month for that privilege. It’s a key change in the company’s strategy under new CEO Satya Nadella, one that sees Microsoft focusing more on becoming a services and software company aimed at ALL users rather than trying to sell Windows and Windows alone.
You can download from Play Store: Microsoft Office Mobile
Wow,that's really convenience if it's true.:fingers-crossed:
Grace1993 said:
Wow,that's really convenience if it's true.:fingers-crossed:
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