hey guys heres abit of unusal question? (to be honest i dont think any of us ask any usual questions )
anyway what im trying to do is find out if there is a way to force a pda when its trying to connect to the internet to first check if internet is avaible through active sync (cradle or usb cable) then to check if WIFI is avaible then if thats not avaible to use gprs - but to use gprs as a last resort.
so the way it will work is an application needs to connect to the internet it first is forced to check for a connection through active sync if thats not avaible then to see if there can be a wifi conenction established if that fails then to connect to gprs and in the order.
i was hoping i could find what scrpits are used when the connections are established and then make a script to run the will force the device to do this.
Or even if there is a reg edit that I can do that will allow me to get this done? (would regedits be possable for this)
Id appericate your thoughts on this guys?
p.s il also go post this in the genaral networking section of the forum, as i would like to do this across board on any device (wm5/wm6)
well- i can solve half that...
you don't need a script or anything for the cradle side of things- just set activesync's Connections (File->Connection Settings->) and Uncheck "allow wireless connection on device when connected to desktop"
This wil force the device to use the activesync connection for the data.
Now- if only we could make it do that on wifi...
For what it's worth- I use NoData whenever I'm home and using my Wifi connection. It's a minor step to make sure I'm not burning up the data dollars- and the wifi is fast as heck.
dude thanks for the reply lol loveeeeee that cat you got one bad ass *****!
yeh i know about the active sync side of things,
I know it sounds silly and "why do you want to do that" kind of a question,
but im going to be supporting alot of devices and having something preform this task in that order would be a great help to me.
I dont think il get the answer for it, but hey this is XDA DEVEPLOERS!!!!!!
and mighter things have been done on this website by the users!!!!!
peace out
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hi Guys ,
I come to you as a friend in need, I have a serious problem bwith the internet sharing on my ameo, as you can see I am on it now typing this, but I can't for the life of me get it to share the connection, I don't have a bluetooth dongle for it, so its usb all the way, here is what happens:
my pc running windows xp doesn't have a modem attached, only thing connected to it network wise is my playstation 3, I don't have the interet at home, hence wanting to use the ameo for the connection.
plug the ameo in, bink active sync goes on, leave it to sync, then I have tried a couple of things to no avail, just hitting internet sharing then, ameo dumps the usb connection then restarts it, nadda no I-net explorer, nothing pinging
I have tried starting the sharer before connection the usb lead nadda,
is there a set of setup needs I am blatantly missing? everyone seems to jus say they plug it in and it works, but I can't seem to get over this hurdle.
perhaps its simply a network setting on windows?
Can anyone thinks they can help suggest something I am doing wrong? even if it sounds obvious to u I might just be missing something simple
ps I am running pk dual touch
Many thanks in advance
Peter
hmm, just did a soft reset and now its working....hmm...
would still like to know what caused it, i turned off advanced usb features could that have made it start working?
whats that for anyways?
Peter
I get this sometimes, the ameo acts as a DHCP server and assigns the computer an IP addy, sometime however it does not assign an addy and so there can be no data transfer !! a simple reset of the ameo appears to sort it every time !!
i always found that the modem link, Wireless modem and Internet sharing applications always worked better if you activate them BEFORE connecting the USB cable.
Either that or the dodgy power supply on my USB hub is causing the problem!!! :-D
rhedgehog said:
i always found that the modem link, Wireless modem and Internet sharing applications always worked better if you activate them BEFORE connecting the USB cable.
Either that or the dodgy power supply on my USB hub is causing the problem!!! :-D
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I completely agree, connecting the service before connecting the USB is much more reliable
PS did you guys know that we aren`t supposed to be able to do this, apparently to connect to your laptop you are supposed to use web and walk pro at £12.50 per month not just web and walk my mate can`t do this through his nokia cos it does not support internet connection sharing
well this problem happened to me today..what i did was right click my network places and disabled the LAN.coz win xp was choosing my LAN as default.once i disabled it it chose my athena and wala i got internet sharing.hth
Ma Ameo X7500 Is Automatically Connecting 2 Internet Every Time And Am Loosing A Lots Of Moneyn
How Can I Jus Disable The Option Like Connect To Internet When I Want Or Something Like That
Go to www.modaco.com and download nodata.cab
You may need to ask yourself 'why is it connecting' and why is it costing so much?
Generally, if you have a POP3 email account, set up, it will connect at the interval you have set in Activesync or Messaging.
The X7500 also has QuickGPS which will try and update itself at intervals- the actual data use it tiny though, so should nt cost much. To stop it, open QuickGPS and alter the settings.
Do you have any other programs that connect to the internet? Do you want them to only connect via WiFi- if so, the link by Confucious is excellent.
If you want to use GPRS data sometimes, you need to modify the connection settings and remove the Password and untick 'Save Password'; this will mean that any connection attempt will always prompt for a password, which you can then abort if you want to (of course if the connection attempts are frequent and you can't trace the source, this could become a pain in itself!)
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Go to www.modaco.com and download nodata.cab
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THANKS FOR UR ATTENTION 2 MA THREAD
THAT HELPED
NOW ITS NOT CONNECTING LIKE THAT
NeilM said:
You may need to ask yourself 'why is it connecting' and why is it costing so much?
Generally, if you have a POP3 email account, set up, it will connect at the interval you have set in Activesync or Messaging.
The X7500 also has QuickGPS which will try and update itself at intervals- the actual data use it tiny though, so should nt cost much. To stop it, open QuickGPS and alter the settings.
Do you have any other programs that connect to the internet? Do you want them to only connect via WiFi- if so, the link by Confucious is excellent.
If you want to use GPRS data sometimes, you need to modify the connection settings and remove the Password and untick 'Save Password'; this will mean that any connection attempt will always prompt for a password, which you can then abort if you want to (of course if the connection attempts are frequent and you can't trace the source, this could become a pain in itself!)
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THNX MAN
I feel like I need to 1st explain that although I don't post here often I'm not an absolute noob. I load a new ROM about every 30 days and used Tierman before advancing to Sashimi. Ever since the 6.5 roms dropped I've been unable to see my Titan from ANY laptop/desktop. I'm looking for others with the same issue and/or if this is a known issue that has been resolved.
Tried RyanMogul6800 2.2 Heavy
Tried JUSTPCTECH 6.5 Rom
Tried an un-named 6.5 Rom prior to the 21501 release
Same issue on all of these roms, SSID/PPC not visible
Device is a 6800 Alltel branded on the Alltel network
WMWifirouter version is 1.35
Tried deleting the wifi listing on the pc's/laptops
Tried re-installing WmWifirouter
Tried rebooting everything
Tried changing hardware switch to control ringer on/off instead of wifi
Tried manually powering on wifi via Comm Manager
I know wmwifirouter started out testing here so I hope they see this post but I will be accessing my paid support with wmwifirouter to submit a support ticket.
Has anyone else experienced this?
What did you do to fix it?
Try going into settings, connections, Wireless LAN, change power mode to best performance. Then go into settings, connections, wifi and if any connections are in there delete them. Make sure no connections are attempting to connect. Now turn on wifi switch and go back into wifi settings. Pick to see ad hoc only and create new. Make a name and make it an ad hoc connection, pick open connection no security protection. Finish. Now using wifi on a laptop/desktop refresh the wifi and you should now see your connection. Quick tip when using WmWifirouter. Make sure nothing is connected to your PPC's adhoc connection. Have the wifi switch enabled BEFORE turning on WMwifirouter, Once its connected you can then use a desktop or laptop and connect to the PPC, and dont turn the WIFI OFF until you have quit WMwifirouter. I use the network plugin to access shared folders on my PC to transfer music etc.. Also make sure the wifi on the PC is not set up to share its own connection. That will interfere with the networking with the wifi on the PPC. Let me know if you get wi-fi working.
Thanks and I'm trying that now..only thing is I've been using WMWifirouter cince before it was 1.0 and it always worked fine. While i'm trying your suggestion is their anything different with 6.5 that would have me manually connecting.
I'm used to setting up wmwifirouter in the office and letting 2 otherppl access it and just GO! This happens on Vista, XP, and Windows 7 (I'm an MSDN subscriber). Anyhow trying your suggestions and let me know about 6.5 if you goet a sec.
Thanks
Tried it and my network showed up for a sec but when I tried connecting it timed out and then never showed up again. USB to 3G works fine and I tried ur suggestion on Vista & XP. Still pokin away. Hope sumthin works out!
Just a side note. My wifi IP on the 6800 is always all 0's 0.0.0.0 Shouldn't it be 192.16.3.1 and DHCP is enabled BTW
I'm experiencing a similar problem and have tried several 6.5 builds, including my own from the ppckitchen. WIFI will work for some time and then stop. It will work again for a short time after rebooting but then will stop once more.
So after JustPCTechs (I prefer Ryans Rom) rom i am back on RyanMogul's heavy & it's still not working. I like many people looked at others with this issue like it's something they are doing wrong but I am an EVERY DAY user of wmwifirouter. I cancelled my itnernet at the house simply because Alltel's unlimited was so fast. I even had the kid's Xbox 360 running through it.
So I'm still stuck with no wifi for wmwifirouter. Even after Ryan's suggestions. I know other people have this problem. I just wish you guys would speak up so we can collect data on this issue and resolve it for real.
No disrespect to the very talented individuals whom have assisted me so far. You and your work are greatly appreciated.
I'm also verifying the problem exists. Also I cannot connect my home pc's internet through the USB cable to the phone anymore. I have verified this same problem with all 3 of the 6.5 roms I've tested. I tried ryan's suggestion but to no avail. Looks great though!!
For the issue of the PPC not being able to use your PC's internet through USB cable you may want to try going into settings/connections/connection settings/select network. Make the top drop down menu My work network and the bottom drop down menu make your Carrier ex:Cricket, MetroPCS, etc.. That way should use your WAP when unplugged and use the PC's home connection when plugged in. That would then be normal operation.
SOLVED:
So I was poking around in the 6800 and I never use wifi because Alltel is SOOO fast. I saw a saved network connection ON THE 6800 to wmwifirouter. I thought it was odd since I asked wmwifirouter to dynamically create the network each time instead of storing it.
After doing that I was able to consistently see the 6800 from any device.
So Comm Manager / wireless Lan/ delete wmwifirouter
I've had the usb issue a long time ago and it is not the same.
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Then go into settings, connections, wifi and if any connections are in there delete them. Make sure no connections are attempting to connect.
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If you notice i already said to delete existing wi-fi connections. So my first responses were your solution. you just overlooked it.. take care glad your sorted out.
I guess I did and let me make this real clear for anyone reading this later on. Wmwifirouter creates a wifi connection ON YOUR PPC DEVICE - TO YOUR PC DEVICE.
So when people tell you to delete all wifi connections and you delete the one on your laptop/desktop don't forget (like i did) to delete it on the ppc as well. I never knew thats how wmwifirouter worked. Learn somethin new every day. Thanks to all that helped.
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I guess I did and let me make this real clear for anyone reading this later on. Wmwifirouter creates a wifi connection ON YOUR PPC DEVICE - TO YOUR PC DEVICE.
So when people tell you to delete all wifi connections and you delete the one on your laptop/desktop don't forget (like i did) to delete it on the ppc as well. I never knew thats how wmwifirouter worked. Learn somethin new every day. Thanks to all that helped.
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In my instructions it is telling you to delete the connections off of the PPC.. Any connection on your PC would not automatically connect unless u had a matching ad hoc connection on ur PPC. I provided the fix and u overlooked/misunderstood it. I am glad you got ur wifi back up and running.
I've scoured the forums and the net but can't find how to turn off the "Enable advanced network functionality" in Windows Mobile 6.5.
I loaded my first WM6.5 ROM a while back and need to update it but can't get sync'ed to load the update.
Please point me in the right direction, I've lost most of my hair already, bout to pull the rest out.
Thanks in advance.
Settings>Connections>USB. I always turn it off too since it causes issues with VPN, firewalls, wireless, and is just plain annoying since every device you connect then creates a hidden hardware entry on your PC for the network connection and the device/usb connection.
What is also funny, is most Vista machines require this "new" setting to be turned off to connect as well.
Here's a link in case you want to get rid of those pesky extra device manager entries.
Device Manager does not display devices that are not connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539/en-us
Cheers,
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Here's a link in case you want to get rid of those pesky extra device manager entries.
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Had that already, that is how I knew about them all. Just a pain to delete them, and after 50+ are on your machine it seems to start to slow things down.
Hi all,
I got problem with internet connection on my HD2 (ROM 1.48). There are 2 ways I connect to the internet - WIFI and GPRS. GPRS connection works fine - I can download and read e-mails, make backups with MyPhone, update weather information, etc. But when I connect to the internet with WIFI, there are only 2 things I can do. I can browse web pages with Opera and update Twitter messages. But I can´t download e-mails, make backups, update weather information, etc. When I try to update or backup something, there is connection error (through that connection between phone and router is fine and web pages are running).
It seems to me like most of applications want to connect to internet via GPRS only. Is there any way to set up (or check) the phone to connect to the internet via WIFI when it is turned on?
Thanks for any advice
Sorry cant help but agree - it would be fantastic if there was some way of knowing / controlling when it used GPRS data and when it uses wifi. When wifi availabe obviously would rather use that than be charge a small firtune for data.
Any one out there about to help with this??
Internet browsing
Ditto. I can - after HUGE effort - connect WiFi but I cannot browse the internet using either Opera or IE. 2 year old Nokia connected and browsed literally within 2 secs! Also, the phone keeps connecting via GPRS all the time even with data connections off. Can anyone help? Thanks PS I know it's unproductive & forgive me, but I have to get this off my chest: this is the worst cellphone I've ever owned. Bluetooth doesn't work, internet doesn't work, handsfree car kit doesn't work. Does anything work?
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Ditto. I can - after HUGE effort - connect WiFi but I cannot browse the internet using either Opera or IE. 2 year old Nokia connected and browsed literally within 2 secs! Also, the phone keeps connecting via GPRS all the time even with data connections off. Can anyone help? Thanks PS I know it's unproductive & forgive me, but I have to get this off my chest: this is the worst cellphone I've ever owned. Bluetooth doesn't work, internet doesn't work, handsfree car kit doesn't work. Does anything work?
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correction, YOUR Bluetooth doesn't work, YOUR internet doesn't work, YOUR handsfree car kit doesn't work.
Get it exchanged. (if they genuinely dont work)
@others, go to settings menu all settings connection connections advanced select networks.
there are two dropdowns, in teh top one should be the name of your mobile data, , this is what automatic progs will use to connect to the web, in teh bottom one it should be 'the internet' (or sometimes 'my work network'), meaning they use wifi if available, and data if not.
(At least thats how they should work....)
If you set the top one the same as teh bottom one, nothing should try to use mobile unless wifi is not connected.
Could be a proxy problem? some operators set up a proxy, which can screw with connections.
samsamuel: Thank you for your advice. I´ve tried it - in both dropdowns I got "my work network", but no success.
I´ve found something interessting. When I turn on YouTube client (using WIFI), I can´t play videos. That should be ok when I got problem with internet connection. But YouTube client shows on the welcome screen preview of today´s added videos. So the question is why should application download preview of video, but it can´t play the video? I´m a little bit confused
Thanks for the suggestion, but I had tried that already and it did not work. I don't think it is just my cellphone. There are many comments re the HD2 that make it clear that it does not work with a Parrot handsfree carkit, Motorola S9 headset etc, and the 2 earlier posts reveal problems using WiFi too. It seems to be problematic on many fronts. I cannot even connect it using Windows Mobile via an USB port! And while I appreciate all suggestions it seems to me that this model is a (very expensive) lemon and frustrates huge numbers of owners. I find it odd that a 2 year old Nokia N95 can connect and browse instantly and a 'smart phone' doesn't work at all. I find it to be very gimmicky. I don't need twitter, facebook etc. I need voice dial, good PC software (like Ovi and PC suite) and bluetooth that works etc. The HD2 has none of this, but great graphics of a windscreen wiper, exactly the sort of pointless gimmick that reveals that the designers were interested in making a toy and not a useful phone.
I suggest you try and install "HTC_Wi-Fi_onDemand_by_Krocher". This program will always use wifi when available and stop the GPRS from connecting and will also keep your wifi on a stand-by. Please do read through the thread as you have to make sure that no programs using wifi are activated when you want it to be off. For me it solved several problems with wifi.
Second thought is to upgrade to one of the much more stable and already tweaked OS's. There are quite a lot out and you'll find everything about that on this forum as well.
Last thought, if it does not work it must be something to do with either the settings or the OS version as for others it works absolutely fine. These are complicated phones that, much like computers, must be set and tweaked to the correct settings in order to get the best out of them. If you just want a "buy and run" phone this is not the one.
Success,
Itamar