So I've been a silent observer and massive leach on this forum for sometime, and I've felt like I should try to contribute something back to the community. I can't program ****, I'm little more than an adv. newb at this point. But I do understand how to flash roms, where to find things on the forum, Hard SPL, radio upgrades, REg edit, and all manner of things that most noobs don't. So the way I would like to give back to the community as a whole is to try to answer questions, ANY questions noobs might have without flaming them. My hope is that alot of the questions that annoy our senior members can be directed here, and I can help people find the answers to their questions. I usually check in 2 or 3 times a day, and as long as the traffic doesn't get overwhelming I'll do my best to help.
Thanks to all the chefs, Moderators, and senior members who contribute so much to keep me crack addicted to my stupid cell phone.
where can I find a threaded "palm" like sms application?
totally kidding, this is the most asked question on here i think.
I think rather than do a Q and A, see if you can post step by step "noob" questions defining the differences between hardSPL, radios, ... and why everyone talks about them.
That would be a good bit of information that we can add to the wiki. Just define the key words everyone talks about or something. Personally, I have flashed a few roms on my 8525s but still dont read enough to determine why people like the older radios vs the 1.48. and why some roms dont have radio and such vs ones that do. That alone would be beneficial to me.
GOD you guys are idiots, fricking n00bs.. USE THE SEARCH! ..
j/k ..
Radio
hoyter said:
where can I find a threaded "palm" like sms application?. Personally, I have flashed a few roms on my 8525s but still dont read enough to determine why people like the older radios vs the 1.48. and why some roms dont have radio and such vs ones that do. That alone would be beneficial to me.
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From what I can tell people some people use older radios for several reasons.
1st Flashing the radio is potentially extremely perilous. It's not hard to do but if something goes wrong it CAN potentially brick your phone. Even if you have Hard SPL. Therefore some tend to be more conservative about flashing their radios. Roms are available without the radio for this reason as well, it's less dangerous and people have varying opinions about which radio is best
2nd which radio is best for you seems to depend somewhat on what area you live in, what service you have, and whether battery life or performance is more important to you. Their are various opinnions about which radio version is better but they all seem somewhat subjective. PEople report better signal strength with one version or another, or better battery life with one version or another. But from what I can tell 1.48 and 1.40.3 seem to be two of the favorites. 1.48 because it's new and doesn't seem to be causing TOO many problems, and 1.40.3 because its tested and most haven't had trouble with it.
Hope this helps.
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GOD you guys are idiots, fricking n00bs.. USE THE SEARCH! ..
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You JUST couldn't resist could you!
ok, so i just got my 8525 saturday, havent done much of anything, just got around to putting all of my contacts into outlook and syncing onto my phone. i want to get to the point where i can check out different roms and what not, so i started with the hardsplv7 installation, and two tries in a row i got an error regarding my device not being connected via usb correctly or something, yet im clearly connected because i just synced and such. help a dude out
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ok, so i just got my 8525 saturday, havent done much of anything, just got around to putting all of my contacts into outlook and syncing onto my phone. i want to get to the point where i can check out different roms and what not, so i started with the hardsplv7 installation, and two tries in a row i got an error regarding my device not being connected via usb correctly or something, yet im clearly connected because i just synced and such. help a dude out
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Well since I like the idea of a flameproof zone, I will jump in here as well. Before you even consider posting a total newb question you should have read a couple of dozen posts, just like yours. Because then you would know that you would get flamed for not posting all of the important information. Are you using XP or Vista? what radio version are you using, what bootloader did your phone come with. What IPL/SPL?
my bad, IPL-1.01, SPL-1.40 Olipro. XP
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yeah my moneys with Madcap180, i saw this posted a day or so ago and wondered how long till loweryr gets the ****s with the nooby questions.
Have you tried this?
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my bad, IPL-1.01, SPL-1.40 Olipro. XP
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Check out this site by Mrvanx he has put a lot of work into helping people out
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
There are detailed instructions on how to do this. AND it's very important that you do. Don't give up if you have problems getting hardspl as I'm sure you already know it makes flashing ROMS much safer.
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yeah my moneys with Madcap180, i saw this posted a day or so ago and wondered how long till loweryr gets the ****s with the nooby questions.
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There has hardly been any action here for weeks. So at this rate I'll be on to my next phone before I get "the ****s with the nooby questions" But your right if it takes off I'll probably regret it
alright, learned a lot in the last...day or so, flashed olipro finally, tried out some roms, settling with jasjammins black majik for the time being, and flashed radio 1.50. now time to figure out some more cool things to jump into
okay, the sim and cid unlocker is confusing the hell out of me... if i've installed hardspl 2.10 olipro and it enables supercid, then why do i need to unlock the sim or the cid...? do i need to use the unlocker in order to upgrade my rom to a new one...? i'm using an at&t 8525...
thanks for this thread by the way... sometimes i just need things to be explained in a plain clear fashion from people who know how to use the english language and sometimes when i read things on here the english language is butchered and things don't come across right and becomes confusing... i'm just looking for simple answers to simple questions...
from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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Sounds like you have a good grasp of the concepts you mentioned.
bashing posts have been deleted. I have no tolerance for newbie bashing, especially on this thread which is specifically titled. I will start handing out bans if I see this again
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from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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yeah, i'm still a noob more or less, but it's getting better... it's just some of this stuff is a little complicated and i like to see things done on a step by step basis, like a cookbook... here is the recipe and here are the ingredients and here is how you put them altogether and viola, a fine dish...
okay, i understand about the temp supercid when flash thanks to hardspl 2.10 olipro... i don't know why someone would need to have a permanently unlocked cid either, since i can't seem to find an explanation as to what a cid unlock will get you... a sim unlock i understand fully about moving the phone to other networks via a sim... i'm just interested in knowing if i have to do anything besides run hardspl 2.10 olipro to upgrade to a new rom...
im running with att, got my 8525 on ebay already unlocked with an older version of olipro installed and the black shadow rom. I flashed to the newest version of olipro (after a few difficulties with the 260 error which i havent really had since), flashed to a newer radio (1.50) and tried like 5 different roms. I have no idea if my phone is perma sid unlocked. If u want some step by step recipe type directions check out the mrvanx website and read one of the guides for installing one of the roms which are on there, starts off with installing olipro and goes thru till the end, and if the guide isnt dealing with the rom u want just substitute the one u want in
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im running with att, got my 8525 on ebay already unlocked with an older version of olipro installed and the black shadow rom. I flashed to the newest version of olipro (after a few difficulties with the 260 error which i havent really had since), flashed to a newer radio (1.50) and tried like 5 different roms. I have no idea if my phone is perma sid unlocked. If u want some step by step recipe type directions check out the mrvanx website and read one of the guides for installing one of the roms which are on there, starts off with installing olipro and goes thru till the end, and if the guide isnt dealing with the rom u want just substitute the one u want in
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right... i went to mrvanx' site and read the instruction 10 times over... seems straight enough... i'm going to try out the tnt 2.0 6 meg+htc rom, but i wanted to start from scratch with the phone... right now i'm a little stuck... i tried a hard reset just to get everything back to where it was, but i don't think i'm doing it right or the at&t 8525 that i have (which is brand new from at&t) isn't giving me the screen i need to be seeing according to the wiki... the wiki states that if you want to hard reset, hold down the 2 softkeys (the two keys on the left and the right at the top of the keyboard) and press the reset switch with your stylus at the bottom of your device, then you should be presented with a screen that says 'R' for reset or 'X' for exit... i didn't get that screen at all, but it does do a reset (apparently), but my name and contacts are still intact... i thought a hard reset was a total wipe of the device... maybe i'm wrong...?
also, i go to the bootloader screen and it says herm100 ipl-1.04 and below that it says herm100 spl-2.10.olipro... most confusing...
okay... here is an update on the hard reset... i instead went into the clear settings applet and hard reset that way... however, when i do a bootloader screen check, it still says ipl-1.04 and spl-2.1.olipro... i thought it would change everything back... so now it is all clear... i'll reformat my minisd card to fat32 and then i'll install the new tnt 2.0 and see what happens... i'll keep you up to date on any issues...
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... special help.
I'm sorry, I'm really not tech savvy. I'm leaving for Europe in 2 days and I needed my 8525 unlocked so I could use an Italian SIM card while I'm there ... So I ran the program, the tri-color screen showed up on my phone and it's been there for a while. Does this step take a while or should I be worried about my phone? Now I did something stupid after. I accidentally closed the cmd screen with the instructions, so now it's back to "Rom Upgrade utility will start now, bla bla ... check the 'I understand' and 'I completed ...' boxes and update!" Now, those boxes haven't appeared, and it's been 15 minutes. At the beginning of this, the instruction said to make sure there's at least 50% of battery left, so I assume that means this step takes long and it's not that I've messed up? Please please help I'm kinda freaking out here ...
P.S. You guys are fantastic! Honestly ... thank you for this, and I promise I shall donate if this works. ;-)
OK, all the info you need is in the unbricking thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
Please read through the thread and it will help you to help yourself.
What is a "brick" [besides the orange-ish stuff we use to build homes] and why am I flashing my phone?
Also, I'm not sure which part of the process it's stuck in. It doesn't say anything about the tri-color screen?
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What is a "brick" [besides the orange-ish stuff we use to build homes] and why am I flashing my phone?
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Congratulations on that question....if you read the thread you will find out.
As I said I'm in leaving in 2 days, and there's 27 things on my to-do list. Reading that whole thread and learnign how to unlock my phone may take up hours which I don't have to spare right now.
I'd really appreciate it if someone would be willing to help, I will donate in exchange but if you can't and all the advice you have to offer is "search the threads" then ... well, I'd be quite disappointed but I guess it'll do.
Now, if you're feeling too irritable to help, please, for the sake of someone who is already nearing a nervous breakdown, is it safe for me to unplug my phone right now (with the tri-color screen still active on the phone) and soft-reset it, or will it risk messing up my phone ... which means I should leave it alone?
Thanks a million.
You're a star.
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As I said I'm in leaving in 2 days, and there's 27 things on my to-do list. Reading that whole thread and learnign how to unlock my phone may take up hours which I don't have to spare right now.
I'd really appreciate it if someone would be willing to help, I will donate in exchange but if you can't and all the advice you have to offer is "search the threads" then ... well, I'd be quite disappointed but I guess it'll do.
Now, if you're feeling too irritable to help, please, for the sake of someone who is already nearing a nervous breakdown, is it safe for me to unplug my phone right now (with the tri-color screen still active on the phone) and soft-reset it, or will it risk messing up my phone ... which means I should leave it alone?
Thanks a million.
You're a star.
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Right then, what text is displayed on the bootloader screen? (the tri colour screen you are on now)
At the very top, there's a red box that takes up 1/4 of the screen.
It says:
HERM100
IPL-SSPL by Des
HERM100
SPL-1.09.ds
The second 1/4 of the screen below the red is green, followed by blue, then at the very bottom a white block that says "USB".
Thank you. Sorry I've just got so much to deal with right now ... I didn't mean to snap.
Soft reset the device, see if it boots up normally.
It did boot up normally, it's working fine now.
Shall I restart the process or leave it be?
probably best to leave it be, when you get back from your holiday take some time to read through the wiki and the relevant threads before continuing. If you read up you will know what to expect and what to do if the unexpected happens, will save the panic
My holiday's going to be until September the 17th. I need the phone ... for the holiday. So I can get local numbers wherever I go. :-/
Best thing might be to buy a right POS mobile there?
Thanks ... figured it out. :-D
I did have a backup POS phone, too ... this one's just the one I keep if I wanna stay organized, pretty important on a trip.
Its not that hard to SIM unlock a hermes there is a sticky I believe with the app or just search for hermes CID unlocking. make sure you choose to SIM unlock not CID. hell run both CID and SIM unlock won't hurt anything. also before you do anything flash SPL7 on your phone if you don't know what it is search also!
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Its not that hard to SIM unlock a hermes there is a sticky I believe with the app or just search for hermes CID unlocking. make sure you choose to SIM unlock not CID. hell run both CID and SIM unlock won't hurt anything. also before you do anything flash SPL7 on your phone if you don't know what it is search also!
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Austinsync,
Now I am confused and obviously need to read even more but if you could spare a few moments then you'd save me a great deal of time. I already have HardSPL(7) from OliPro and thought that this had effecively CID unlocked my device to allow me to flash non-T-Mobile (my provider) ROMs onto the device- I checked and Olipro lists SuperCID as a core Hard-SPL feature.
I have seen lots of SIM and CID unlocking and understand that but has the HardSPL effectively rendered much of that advice on CID unlocking advice unecessary? I have seen someone (on the WM6 Hermes Forum) indicate that HardSPL 'temporarily' CID unlocked the device!
Any comments welcome - just hope I've not been too lapse in only reading about a thousand pages...
I've searched and didn't find an answer on this so if it has been asked and answered I apologize.
Since Sprint and HTC have released a ROM update will Verizon be following suit?
My phone is a daily worker and I can't afford to spend the time with trial and error on DCD's ROM, although it is very tempting.
Thanks
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I've searched and didn't find an answer on this so if it has been asked and answered I apologize.
Since Sprint and HTC have released a ROM update will Verizon be following suit?
My phone is a daily worker and I can't afford to spend the time with trial and error on DCD's ROM, although it is very tempting.
Thanks
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I myself haven't seen any official confirmation or even hinting from VZW that they're releasing an upgrade. Sprint announced it what, back in October? I'd imagine if VZW was going to follow suit we would've heard something by now. I'm gonna check a few sites and see what I can find.
Was wondering the same thing earlier today.
I doubt it...
I asked a second level support tech that yesterday and he didn't know anything about it - but that is not a surprise to me...
Its fairly common knowledge in some circles that VZW is very secretive (or maybe they just dont let their ppl know) about this stuff.
I imagine an update is indeed in the works, but nobody you talk to at VZW will have any knowledge. Those familiar with VZW and updates also know that it will probably be some time after the other carriers have their updates out. Slow and steady must be their motto...
Why wait? Trial and error with DCD's rom? Load and go.
I'm with Sprint and can't even see myself ever running a stock ROM again.
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Why wait? Trial and error with DCD's rom? Load and go.
I'm with Sprint and can't even see myself ever running a stock ROM again.
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We haven't, but there are a few little nagging issues that might be resolved by a stock ROM from Verizon w/ GPS and Rev A.
For me, anytime I run a *228, my phone goes into the 20 minute acquiring signal dance. I hate that beat.
After reading through 50+ pages in the regular ROM and the 4 pages on VZW I'm holding off because of some of the smaller problems people are having with wifi, MMS, bluetooth, etc.
I'm the kind of person that if there is a 1% chance of it happening it will happen to me and I can't afford to be without my phone.
Plus it is still a bit confusing with the radio stuff, loading 2.40 unlocker first, it gets a bit much for a dabbler like myself.
Maybe if there was a very simple cut & dried walk through of what you need to do to prepare/download/install then load I'd do it.
Heck, I didn't even know what the hell a 'kitchen' was in regards to a ROM when I first got the XV6800 and I've been a smartphone/pocket pc guy for a long time
It is very very easy to go back to the stock verizon rom and radio as well as the original bootloader if you have any of these problems....but as I've said in other threads....I've flashed 3 phones now with absolutely none of the problems you've mentioned.
In that case could you point me to the best walk through on doing it including what I need (bootloaders etc)? I've seen so many that make it seem like defusing an atomic bomb and then other that just say "run it & git er done' so I don't know which to follow.
Thanks so much
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In that case could you point me to the best walk through on doing it including what I need (bootloaders etc)? I've seen so many that make it seem like defusing an atomic bomb and then other that just say "run it & git er done' so I don't know which to follow.
Thanks so much
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Search my posts. I made a good one step by step last night.
Man you have a ton of posts to search through I think I found the right one.
So you've got MMS working no problem? I use MMS all the time and don't want to loose it like some people have.
Your steps seem to involve already using a cooked ROM are the steps the same for a 'virgin' xv6800?
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Man you have a ton of posts to search through I think I found the right one.
So you've got MMS working no problem? I use MMS all the time and don't want to loose it like some people have.
Your steps seem to involve already using a cooked ROM are the steps the same for a 'virgin' xv6800?
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The only additional step for a virgin xv6800 is that you need to install Olipro 2.40 unlocker first. Be sure to turn off USB in ActiveSync when done and the phone will boot back into the OS. You can then run the Sprint update (DO NOT LET THE SPRINT CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN!) followed by the cooked DCD ROM.
Be sure to check off MMS when cooking the ROM. If you don't see it, DCD left it out and you might have to find the OEM from an older version (it was left out of 3.0.0) My old GF from when I was 14 found me on MS monday and used MMS to send me old pics yesterday....it works. ;D
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Man you have a ton of posts to search through I think I found the right one.
So you've got MMS working no problem? I use MMS all the time and don't want to loose it like some people have.
Your steps seem to involve already using a cooked ROM are the steps the same for a 'virgin' xv6800?
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I have a 'virgin' xv6800 enroute. It should arrive Thursday or Friday. My first task will be to see if I can get GPS working. I'm a veteran Kyocera 6035, then 7135, followed by a Treo 650 but reading about cooking the ROM, etc is truly virgin territory!
Can you post the link to the post you found? Thanks!
I know verizon isn't exactly known for giving it's users new featured readily but my guess on this is they WILL eventually offer an updated patch with this GPS and RevA so they can rent you VZNavigator on a monthly basis.
But expect them to disable normal satellite tracking and limit it to AGPS reception so your forced to use VZNav and not Google Maps!
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It is very very easy to go back to the stock verizon rom and radio as well as the original bootloader if you have any of these problems....but as I've said in other threads....I've flashed 3 phones now with absolutely none of the problems you've mentioned.
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Very easy? Would you point me in the right direction on where to find the original radio rom, as well as the OS rom? From what I understand to get back to the original bootloader, you just have to use the titan relock, right?
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Very easy? Would you point me in the right direction on where to find the original radio rom, as well as the OS rom? From what I understand to get back to the original bootloader, you just have to use the titan relock, right?
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Search my posts from yesterday. Posted a guide on this w/ links to all the files you need.
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Man you have a ton of posts to search through I think I found the right one.
So you've got MMS working no problem? I use MMS all the time and don't want to loose it like some people have.
Your steps seem to involve already using a cooked ROM are the steps the same for a 'virgin' xv6800?
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Pro with the MMS? Maybe you can tell me how to hell to use it. I'd like to look at pictures for more than 5 seconds. It's such a pita to use, maybe I'm just not comfortable with it yet. I hated my last phone, but it was so easy to sent and view MMS messages.
Since you're going from the stock rom, there's a chance you won't be able to place calls after the flash.
Call verizon, tell them you did a hard reset and can't place calls. If they press for answers, make something up... installed a program and the radio went apespit, etc. They'll get you working again.
Over at hofo a user said the tech on the phone asked him if he unlocked the GPS, the caller played stupid, but the tech knew what was up and still helped him out.
SO far so good.
I installed Olipro 2.40.
I then installed the stock Sprint ROM.
I let it run until i aligned the screen and it connected to my computer then I re-set it. I didn't know when it would try to customize my device so maybe I stopped too soon.
I'm not sure what you meant by "manually set it in bootloader" after that and since nothing came up asking to set anything on the reset I continued on to the DCD ROM.
It loaded no problem and everything seems to be working but I just tried a test call after doing *228,1 and it says they can't authenticate my phone.
SO at this point I guess I need to call VZW and get some help right or did I do something wrong
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SO far so good.
I installed Olipro 2.40.
I then installed the stock Sprint ROM.
I let it run until i aligned the screen and it connected to my computer then I re-set it. I didn't know when it would try to customize my device so maybe I stopped too soon.
I'm not sure what you meant by "manually set it in bootloader" after that and since nothing came up asking to set anything on the reset I continued on to the DCD ROM.
It loaded no problem and everything seems to be working but I just tried a test call after doing *228,1 and it says they can't authenticate my phone.
SO at this point I guess I need to call VZW and get some help right or did I do something wrong
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You stopped at the right time.
You will need to let Verizon know that you had to hard reset your phone and need the A Key. They will help you.
Were you following my directions?
Hi,
I have a Jasjam which is getting NoGSM errors. I believe this may be causing my hanging issues that I've been having a lot of.
I've had a look at the Wiki page on this, and a couple of things aren't very clear.
I'm currently running Bootloader SPL-1.10, and it says to go back to 1.04. Can I change to SPL-2.10Oli to do this as well (I guess this is easier).
Also, after this step, it says to Flash the patched radio to simunlock my jasjam, however it is already simunlocked.
I just wanted to clarify these things before giving this a go, so if anybody can enlighten me it would be greatly appreciated, as it is really starting to get to me.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
NoGSM Error in Jasjam - clarification of wiki
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Just wanted to bump this to see if anybody can help me out. I'm still having NoGSM problems, have tried the fix on the Wiki, but things aren't completely clear, as so far it hasn't made any difference.
Sorry mate, probably because no-one HAS a surefire method to fix the "No GSM" problem. Lots of people claim that something fixed it but they seem to keep popping up in the threads still trying to fix their problem. You might have to just try everything until you either give up or something noticeably improves or someone pulls the answer out of thin air.. We all live under the threat of "No GSM" and dread the day if/when it will finally arrive... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can shoot me til your hearts content.
Cheers...
Thanks for that, so pretty much I should keep on trying to flash different radios until I find one that sticks around for a while?
Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
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Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
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Hi, I've got a Jasjam (so therefore it's a Telstra phone). I've gone from the official rom to unofficial roms and back again. I've installed individual radio roms. Most things go onto the phone fine, and it will work perfectly for maybe half a day, and then it crashes, and when I restart I get NoGSM. I might reset it 5 times, and then the radio will come back.
I bought it on ebay, but I've managed to get hold of the details to get a duplicate invoice, so I've put the phone back onto Telstra ROM and a standard SPL, and I'm going to get them to have a look at it, as it looks as though it's a hardware problem, unless any of you smart bods here have other ideas...
Can anybody shed any extra light before I take it into the shop? Just don't want to admit defeat if I can
If you can, the best way to fix is through warranty. If they try to fix 3 times and fail they have to give you a new handset. I believe Telstra no longer have the jasjams so you might be upgraded to the Tytn II.
Cheers....
i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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The difficultly with Cricket is there is no "stock" Rom for this phone. I had the same problem with a Palm Treo, it worked great until I ported my home phone number to the phone and I lost internet. I could only find the same instructions that I have and must have punched it in a thousand times, called Cricket a couple to have my data package removed and added and nothing. When I swapped out for a Cricket Motorola K1m KRZR everything worked just fine. So something happened to the phone and I wasn't going to fix it as there was no stock rom to go to. You might try buying a cheap real Cricket phone off ebay, changing to that phone and then change back to the Titan and see if that changes something. $15 per swap though, maybe find a friend that can do it for free. Hope this helps.
I have other phones, even an other titan, same rom and everything. It has been my test phone for flashing. I didn't want to boar group with story. I ordered one from fundevices and after 6 weeks of waiting and calling, I ordered on off evilbay and it showed in two days. Ran it for a bit the way it came with 6.0 and would send pic but not recieve. Fathers day wife, kids and I went camping and my phone got soaked with soda (floated in it for while on car charger before I found it). Sunday we got home and I took phone apart and cleaned screen side best I could, but mother board and key board got most damage. It would come on, then off, and on, and off........
anyway I washed the mother board in hot water and dish soap in big bowl for about 15 minutes. Put all back together making sure everything was 100% dry. Turned it on, nothing. But it would charge battery. Monday the first one oredered (after 10 weeks) was at my door after work. I didn't activate it knowing I was going to change the rom, and just used wifi for about 5 days. Still using damaged one as a charger and backup battery. I sent both phones to to0 (mike cooper) and had him flash the to0v3 rom on one, but he couldn't get wet phone to come on. When I got phones back, it still had 1.20 bootloader and his rom. No gps, and it took me a week to get the net to work and mms never worked. Sent it to him under the impression that his rom posted on ppc, hofo and cricket phone talk saying everything worked, was what I was getting him to do. When I got it back, activated it, and made a call, no mic. It's not broken. Missing driver, missing patch? Don't know, I know it works. Make a call (not activated) and blow in mic. Get static. Do a video, and it records and plays back sound, but to do a voice command, or record a voice memo nothing. After a few days the battery was low, but not dead. I took backup off damaged phone and put in low battery and turned on (constant on and off would kill it for sure) and it came on. I mean it is the phone I use everyday, flashing, no luck, this post. Been going for about 6 weeks. Still untouched, 2.09 sprint rom with 1.32.00 radio, and it had a dcd hack since windows media player said dcd rom in back ground. How it came working on cricket. While flashing phone with no mic, I hooked up good phone and did unlocker on it without really knowing what I was doing. Of course it stuck in bootloader and I had no clue what to do. By now I have flashed, and flashed, and flashed. Even ripping apart roms posted to put together some things. E.G. dcd 1.6.0 to get stock 1.06 spl and putting it in 2.09 rom that was on phone ruu folder to get phone locked to do hard spl 2.40 Original rom had 1.20 and every time i relocker, it would get stuck in bootloader and then I would flash original rom, thus completing a circle.
How I got to where I'm at now. With 2.09 rom, use relocker, then rom I pieced up to get out of bootloader. Then run hard spl 2.40 since unlocker doesn't, and flashing 2.47 from card always gets me stuck in 2.07 bootloader. Once done hard spl, it's stuck in 1.20 bootloader, flash sprint 3.56, half way thru it stops and wants to recover (don't). remove battery and turn back on and force phone into bootloader and it is 2.40, flash vCBU and when done it gets stuck in boot screen and only thing in red letters is "no radio". Force in bootloader and flash 3.56 and not let customize. Then back to bootloader and flash over vCBU again. Then flash vboots. Then go thru and do reg hacks and fill in stuff for modem. And that is where I am. And yes, that is only way I could get everything flashed. 4 diff attempts on 2 phones, all left same path. Still have my nokia 6265 but wife uses for backup charger for her 6275 and some old dot matrix green screen cricket phones. I was hoping for an easier resilution. Since on phone was almost 4 bills, one was almost 3 bills, and sending to to0 to flashed was 70, pluse switching back and forth at cricket.
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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Was there a question in there?
How far did you get? where are you stuck? what part do you need help with?
Can you not flash 3.2.6 and run the cricket carrier cab to get all this working..? (I have VZW.. so I'm not sure about cricket)
Question is fairly clear. I posted link to ppcgeeks where my origanl question was, and when I said something about ruffling featers. Will I get anywhere asking this group to help me since it is a near perfect mirror of ppc geeks as for as stickies, threads, even what is in the threads word for word, bashing ppc for not having the backbone to answer my request for help and trying to get it here? If you read my post at ppc showing that my mms kinda works, my net does work my gps doesn't work, dialing *228 after going thru a list of prls. I guess it would be obvious of the whole, is there a question here?
How come my gps don't work after filling all appropriate fields in?
What the hell is up with my mms?
Why can't I get *228 to program my phone after changing prls
Why does the evdo change to 1x when in call and on net?
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Why hasn't cricket mofia chirped in?
And, isn't the process I went thru supposed to give me evdo rev a? To0's rom didn't, even after boasting it did. I have done dcd roms, but they seem to be too blahh for me. In my post at ppc it shows my pc is junk (ibm). Figuring out my build os to come up with with my own rom is a joke, it took me 2 hours to do first post here. (really) and ended up having to do it on my titan. Only thing I would trade on the vito rom is the feedback in exchange for windows update.
Sorry, but you asked.
Wow that seems like a lot of frustration, I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried to bring the phone back to its original carrier like Verizon or Sprint and then started over with the latest Radio and DCD Rom? The reason I ask is it seems that you might need to start from a known point to "clean" out all the "custom" stuff. You also might want to contact Bunvilla as he PMed me with Cricket info and has he Mogul working on Cricket:
well i bought a qwest mogul which was configured for qwest network. It took a few day to find a way to get the SPC or MSL code as they call it which allows me to go into the settings and change it from qwest to cricket settings. Once the settings have been changed then u will be able to gain access on crickets network. There is a very important file called a PRL which u need to load onto the phone but can only do it if u have the SPC code. good news i can tell u how to get any carries SPC code for the mogul/ its a piece of cake to switch and way cheaper of a bill and u will have access to all the features internet and everything. hope this has helped " cricket rules"
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I unfortunately am not on Cricket with my Titan. I am getting ready to flash a Verizon Motorola K1m KRZR over to Cricket but it seems way different process. I hope you do figure it out and some one on Cricket here can help you get past this ugly mess. Hopefully Bunvilla can help. I will PM him now and ask him to get in touch with you.
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Question is fairly clear. I posted link to ppcgeeks where my origanl question was, and when I said something about ruffling featers. Will I get anywhere asking this group to help me since it is a near perfect mirror of ppc geeks as for as stickies, threads, even what is in the threads word for word, bashing ppc for not having the backbone to answer my request for help and trying to get it here? If you read my post at ppc showing that my mms kinda works, my net does work my gps doesn't work, dialing *228 after going thru a list of prls. I guess it would be obvious of the whole, is there a question here?
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Well, first I would like to help you… but you posted a link that does not take me to a post.. it takes me to a general forum.. And it’s the Vogue Forum at that. I’m not searching another board for your question. So Excuse me for not knowing your question.
Second, While I have not read your post there.. If you posted with anywhere near the lack of information or general attitude (as if you are entitled to be helped) as you did here.. I can see why nobody helped you. (edit I see more info in your second post but you are all over the place and filled with irrelevant info it's hardly readable)
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Yes, a proper post with a well phrased question, information on what rom / radio / and steps you’ve taken.. and a proper post title will almost always get a response and the help you need to get you on the right track. The post title is important because people see those and decide.. “Hey I know how to fix that” (MMS and GPS on Cricket Help) would be a good one. Your title “Will this work” will be skipped by most people. So… if you don’t follow those steps.. NO it’s not worth asking here.
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-- Why hasn't cricket mofia chirped in? And, isn't the process I went thru supposed to give me evdo rev a?
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Cant tell ya.. don’t know what process you went through. Don’t know what cricket mofia is?
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To0's rom didn't, even after boasting it did.
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It’s possible you did something wrong… Because a rom does not work for you, you cant go blaming the rom.. unless everyone or most people have the problem. (I’m not familiar with that rom) If many people use it, and it works for most.. then the problem is probably you.. Bashing the rom will get you nowhere fast.
** Edit** Didn't realize To0's Rom was installed for you for $$.. odd?
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I have done dcd roms, but they seem to be too blahh for me. In my post at ppc it shows my pc is junk (ibm).
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DCD is what I use… Not sure I can help you with another rom… I cant fix your PC either. Whats blahh about a DCD rom.. Can you tell me what makes another rom better. They are all about the same except the performance tweaks and stability. DCD is stable and performs well.. everything else is an app that can be installed on any rom.
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Figuring out my build os to come up with with my own rom is a joke, it took me 2 hours to do first post here. (really) and ended up having to do it on my titan. Only thing I would trade on the vito rom is the feedback in exchange for windows update. Sorry, but you asked.
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You obviously have a lot of problems….
If you want help.. you need to run something most users can support.. you say DCD roms are blahh.. But that’s where you’ll get the best support.
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How I got to where I'm at now. With 2.09 rom, use relocker, then rom I pieced up to get out of bootloader. Then run hard spl 2.40 since unlocker doesn't, and flashing 2.47 from card always gets me stuck in 2.07 bootloader. Once done hard spl, it's stuck in 1.20 bootloader, flash sprint 3.56, half way thru it stops and wants to recover (don't). remove battery and turn back on and force phone into bootloader and it is 2.40, flash vCBU and when done it gets stuck in boot screen and only thing in red letters is "no radio". Force in bootloader and flash 3.56 and not let customize. Then back to bootloader and flash over vCBU again. Then flash vboots. Then go thru and do reg hacks and fill in stuff for modem. And that is where I am. And yes, that is only way I could get everything flashed. 4 diff attempts on 2 phones, all left same path. Still have my nokia 6265 but wife uses for backup charger for her 6275 and some old dot matrix green screen cricket phones. I was hoping for an easier resilution. Since on phone was almost 4 bills, one was almost 3 bills, and sending to to0 to flashed was 70, pluse switching back and forth at cricket.
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This whole process is wierd....
So I think I understand.. you are at SPL 2.40? Because 2.47 would not work? You put a sprint rom on it, but it says no radio?
Are you against DCD 3.2.6? I'll cook you a rom with the features you want and put it on my FTP if your computer is too slow to do it.
Do you have an SD card thats less than 2GB and formatted with Fat 32?
If so.. I should be able to help you get working.
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wow!!!! Its gonna be ok lil buddy. hang in there and have some patients ( i know your patients has been depleted) and i will try and help u to get answers and your phone working properly again.
I personally have so much on my plate that i dont get to "ppc geekout" as much as i used to.
1) How come my gps don't work after filling all appropriate fields in?
well the answer is that u shouldnt really have to enter anything in any field/ just make sure that the radio and the rom are both of the GPS rom release. cant have a pregps radio with a gps enabled rom, this is not good.
2)What the hell is up with my mms?
mms is a fickled thing , especially for us cricket people/ the problem is the wap settings and some wierd issue in the reg where a certain setting would basically block our phones from recieving the mms message.
Long story short is that with the updating of roms (from wm5 to wm6 to wm6.1) the mms seems to also have changed and just when we figure out what the problem is , it gets changed. and also cricket service doesnt use as sophisticated servers for handling mms as lets say "sprint" so we cricket people have to make changes to get our mms to work . BUT in a nut shell i have successfully got mms to work with the latest PPCKITCHEN rom release.
It took me 5 1/2 hours to figure out y i couldnt get PPCKITCHEN to work on my computer./ had to use a utility to remove netframe work and then download a 200mbsfile of netframe 3.5 and that did the trick.
3)Why can't I get *228 to program my phone after changing prls?
BECAUSE U DONT HAVE YOUR SPC or MSL CODE SET TO 000000!
PERIOD!!!! im not yelling just letting u know exactly y/ ive done this successfully twice to my current titan/ cricket sets its SPC code for all its phones to 000000/ so when it trys to access your phone it cant get pass the code/ i have the modem drivers and program u will need (which i dont know if we are aloud to mention it here) but i have it and will pass it on to u/
4)Why does the evdo change to 1x when in call and on net?
now naturally your phone will switch betwwen evdo and 1x /1x when you recieve or make a call send a text msg etc, and evdo when using data/
connection/ Now i also expierenced a couple months back when my phone all of a sudden would not stay in evdo mode no matter what i did/ i think it was a certain rom and radio combo which fixed it, but anyhow first things first.
PS by the way, these 2 files have gotten me unstuck from the boot loader mode a bunch of times and i would say the most valuable files to have are these two/
i will PM u ok , lets just take it slow k, your situation sounds like a bunch of software issues which is ALOT better than defective hardware issues
JPWHRE
sorry if my spelling suks im a lil tired/ I did get a PM from jambrose/ So just to let u know, that u should give him a big thanks/ not that i wouldnt of helped u if i came across your post but to be honest i dont read alot of the posts anymore/
And by the way jambrose, its good to hear from u. Im glad u r out there helping these guys, and keeping the support going.
hey JPWHRE
for some reason i cant send u an attachment in a PM so i guess ill post the files and info here ok
1)First run the "titan RELOCKER" file with your
phone connected to active
sync, it should return your
phone to the stock
bootloader/
2)Next run the "titan unlocker"
next , this will allow u to
install olipro 1.20/ after
running the unlocker and
following its instructions u
might be in bootloader mode
if i remember right
3) your phone should be in
bootloader mode now,(if it
aint, put it in boot mode) so
just run the "ROM update
utility" in the "olipro 1.20
unlocker" folder im sending u
k/
** u may still be in
bootloader mode when u r done
installing the 1.20 BL, NO
PROBLEM, just run the
DisconnectActiveSync.exe file
first in the "Unlockboot
folder" i have included, THEN
the "titan_exitbl.exe"/
THIS should cause your phone
to reboot.
4)next i believe we r ready
to load radio ( for some
reason the radios can only be
installed using olipro 1.20)
in the folder i have the
radio in, u will run the ROM
update utility and install
the radio.
5) Next u will need to update
your bootloader to 2.40, so
that u can load a custom rom.
Just run the
"Hard-240SPL-MFG.exe" file
ive included and it should
update u with no problems,
Once this has been done u can
now go and install ROM of
your choice/ *** PPCKITCHEN latest rom release allows MMS for us cricket folks**** and if u installed the ROM and cant get the MMS to work just PM me and ill give u the instructions to enable it, there is some adjustment that will need to be made first , so dont worry , we will get it working k**
6) well my friend this has
taken alot out of me/ i will
post these instructions im
giving u under your thread
that way incase i have missed
something, somebody can
inform us/
PS GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND, and
if u get stuck or have a
question, just PM me, but if
i dont get back to u right
away, be patient, k
heres a link to all the neccessary files, its to big to add as an attachement:
http://rs568tg.rapidshare.com/files/143162512/LOCK_un_LOCK_files.rar
bunvilla
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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DID THIS HELP U???? I havent heard one way or the other from u so i am wondering if this worked for u ??
Just looking for a place to start...
I have Cricket on my PoS Cricket phone. Unlimited mobile web on my account. I also have an originally T-mobile Wizard which I've been using just as a mini-laptop and to learn to cook, flash, etc on...
I'm about to buy a Mogul which is supposedly Cricket flashed and/or a Sprint phone originally. As I understand it, either of these should be qualifiers for a fully functional Cricket Smartphone, yes? I want my voicemail, text messages, to surf the web via my cell connection as well as wifi. Bluetooth, gps, and just about anything else are icing that isn't -truly- a requisite for me. What thread should I start reading for -any- Rom that will accomplish the above. I don't mind if the rom is "too blahh". If you are opposed to singling out a specific rom that you (as a cricket customer with a running mogul) like...You could always post a few that you know work. I understand how the "best rom" politics go.
Also, if there are any other considerations I should keep in mind, please reply!
Well, after 9 months of lusting after this phone I finally got one. I wanted one with the intention of putting WP7 Mango on it and having a cheap WP7 phone.
I finally got one for $150 with money saved up from both Christmas and my birthday, but it had Android installed. I flashed an energy ROM on it, and played with that for a couple hours. I then looked at this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/wp7-hd2/139787-how-flash-wp7-your-hd2.html
to see how to put WP7 on it. I downloaded "World Wide English (WWE) 1.66.405.2" since the thread says it has a .50 radio. Well, it seems it doesn't, because now I've got the same brick that happens when you flash a .51 radio.
No poweron, no tricolor screen, nothing. Occasionally I'll get a short chirp from the vibrator motor, but that's it. My computer makes no indication whatsoever of its existence.
Is my phone past DIY help? Would a cell phone repair store be able to do anything? Any clue how much they would charge for it?
Thanks a million
That's pretty unlucky, but also demonstrates why you shouldn't just blindly follow guides without some understanding of what's going on.
The rule for tmous isn't quite as simple as "..50.. radios only",, because 2.04.50 and 2.05.50 are also ..51.. radios.
Also, that rom you flashed usually comes with 2.06.51, so you probably got caught by a filename error, but that still doesn't excuse it properly, since had you read around the forum you would 1 - see the line " all non tmous stock roms WILL brick a tmous," (even without the radio, the rom wouldn't boot on your phone anyway) and 2. - you would have discovered that using hspl3 or Hspl4.would have done what you wanted without downgrading your rom.
so, unlucky, its bricked. JTAG will save it or new mainboard, and I'm betting you never dive in so quickly again!
(Before you start ranting about HTC and what a stupid phone, blah blah, remember it was t mo who asked HTC for a "special version",,, its all t mo's fault)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_ex3VGHIM
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That's pretty unlucky, but also demonstrates why you shouldn't just blindly follow guides without some understanding of what's going on.
The rule for tmous isn't quite as simple as "..50.. radios only",, because 2.04.50 and 2.05.50 are also ..51.. radios.
Also, that rom you flashed usually comes with 2.06.51, so you probably got caught by a filename error, but that still doesn't excuse it properly, since had you read around the forum you would 1 - see the line " all non tmous stock roms WILL brick a tmous," (even without the radio, the rom wouldn't boot on your phone anyway) and 2. - you would have discovered that using hspl3 or Hspl4.would have done what you wanted without downgrading your rom.
so, unlucky, its bricked. JTAG will save it or new mainboard, and I'm betting you never dive in so quickly again!
(Before you start ranting about HTC and what a stupid phone, blah blah, remember it was t mo who asked HTC for a "special version",,, its all t mo's fault)
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I had no understanding of what the previous owner put on the device, I wanted to get it back to complete stock and try from scratch, mostly for the experience of doing it myself (something I enjoy doing). I don't know what amount of reading around would have saved me from a poorly-named file, but whatever.
Looks like I can get it JTAG'd for $40+sh, though I'm kind of hoping I can find someone cheaper on XDA-developers (this other guy is on eBay).
I guess that turns this thread into: Where's the best place I can send my phone to have it JTAG'd?
Ahh its not simply a 0 being a 1 in the filename.
for future reference the only stock roms you can flash will say TMOUS in the filename, and will never ever be rom version 1.x. , valid tmous rom versions are 2.10 2.13 and 3.14.
As for "what amount of reading..", did you find the dedicated tmous section of this forum yet?
(Not trying to be funny, just edjumacation!)