[Q] Bricked my HD2 within 3 hours. Help? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, after 9 months of lusting after this phone I finally got one. I wanted one with the intention of putting WP7 Mango on it and having a cheap WP7 phone.
I finally got one for $150 with money saved up from both Christmas and my birthday, but it had Android installed. I flashed an energy ROM on it, and played with that for a couple hours. I then looked at this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/wp7-hd2/139787-how-flash-wp7-your-hd2.html
to see how to put WP7 on it. I downloaded "World Wide English (WWE) 1.66.405.2" since the thread says it has a .50 radio. Well, it seems it doesn't, because now I've got the same brick that happens when you flash a .51 radio.
No poweron, no tricolor screen, nothing. Occasionally I'll get a short chirp from the vibrator motor, but that's it. My computer makes no indication whatsoever of its existence.
Is my phone past DIY help? Would a cell phone repair store be able to do anything? Any clue how much they would charge for it?
Thanks a million

That's pretty unlucky, but also demonstrates why you shouldn't just blindly follow guides without some understanding of what's going on.
The rule for tmous isn't quite as simple as "..50.. radios only",, because 2.04.50 and 2.05.50 are also ..51.. radios.
Also, that rom you flashed usually comes with 2.06.51, so you probably got caught by a filename error, but that still doesn't excuse it properly, since had you read around the forum you would 1 - see the line " all non tmous stock roms WILL brick a tmous," (even without the radio, the rom wouldn't boot on your phone anyway) and 2. - you would have discovered that using hspl3 or Hspl4.would have done what you wanted without downgrading your rom.
so, unlucky, its bricked. JTAG will save it or new mainboard, and I'm betting you never dive in so quickly again!
(Before you start ranting about HTC and what a stupid phone, blah blah, remember it was t mo who asked HTC for a "special version",,, its all t mo's fault)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_ex3VGHIM

samsamuel said:
That's pretty unlucky, but also demonstrates why you shouldn't just blindly follow guides without some understanding of what's going on.
The rule for tmous isn't quite as simple as "..50.. radios only",, because 2.04.50 and 2.05.50 are also ..51.. radios.
Also, that rom you flashed usually comes with 2.06.51, so you probably got caught by a filename error, but that still doesn't excuse it properly, since had you read around the forum you would 1 - see the line " all non tmous stock roms WILL brick a tmous," (even without the radio, the rom wouldn't boot on your phone anyway) and 2. - you would have discovered that using hspl3 or Hspl4.would have done what you wanted without downgrading your rom.
so, unlucky, its bricked. JTAG will save it or new mainboard, and I'm betting you never dive in so quickly again!
(Before you start ranting about HTC and what a stupid phone, blah blah, remember it was t mo who asked HTC for a "special version",,, its all t mo's fault)
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I had no understanding of what the previous owner put on the device, I wanted to get it back to complete stock and try from scratch, mostly for the experience of doing it myself (something I enjoy doing). I don't know what amount of reading around would have saved me from a poorly-named file, but whatever.
Looks like I can get it JTAG'd for $40+sh, though I'm kind of hoping I can find someone cheaper on XDA-developers (this other guy is on eBay).
I guess that turns this thread into: Where's the best place I can send my phone to have it JTAG'd?

Ahh its not simply a 0 being a 1 in the filename.
for future reference the only stock roms you can flash will say TMOUS in the filename, and will never ever be rom version 1.x. , valid tmous rom versions are 2.10 2.13 and 3.14.
As for "what amount of reading..", did you find the dedicated tmous section of this forum yet?
(Not trying to be funny, just edjumacation!)

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How to brick in 8 or 10 easy steps

While walking a colleague thru his first WM6 upgrade last night, I happened to notice that my IPL had somewhere reverted to 1.00 Well, I just couldn't have that, and set out to re-up it to 1.04
Reflashed it to Vodafone OEM ROM, which for some reason also requires flashing any Radio Rom to get it past the Windows splash screen. Still showed IPL 1.00
Flashed it with the SIM-CIM unlock files, got the IPL up to 1.01
Next, still really wanting to get back to 1.04, and not being happy with a device that was running any and all ROMs I was throwing at it, I tried MTTY and tried to force 1.04nb on it, it wouldn't take it, but it didn't quit.
Then, about 4 am, I got really clever, took the 1.04.nb file, ran it thru nbhtool and made a .nbh file.
Put that on the SD card as HERMIMG.img, and fired up the bootloader.
The file flashed quickly, and gave me the Whoopie, it Worked message.
So, I removed the card, and did a soft reset. And that was the last thing the little guy ever did, reset to dead.
Good thing is our company has these things laying about like some companies have ball point pens, so getting replacement took just minutes.
Now I stick strictly to the guides, improvisation is best left for other folks.
This has been another in the continuing series "Noobs and our toys, how we break em".
... and you admit to the whole world that you are a total idiot?
... I'm convinced
You got balls kid, I'll give you that....
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Thanks for the excellent HOWTO
I'll try your procedure in a couple of months time when it's time to buy something more exciting (Toshiba Portégé G900, i-mate Ultimate 7150 or Nokia E90 -- which one shall it be?).
Actually you should have thanked him for the HowNOTTo!!
Not if you're looking for a good reason to buy another phone
simple said:
Actually you should have thanked him for the HowNOTTo!!
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That's kinda what I was going for... don't get too cocky too soon, and learn from my dorkup. And no, I don't mind admitting I bricked one, I know that many of the senior guys must have too at some point, there are those that have, and those that will.
One thing though, in the 4 or 5 months I've had a Hermes, it has been amazing to see the evolution in tools and utilities that have evolved. Now I just have to keep straight in my noob brain which tools are cross compatible.
This is exactly what happened to my hermes... I sent it to be repaired 2 months ago.. and it is still being repaired I don't know how on earth this can take so much time. They've been saying they are waiting for some "parts" for 5 weeks now :>
Isn't it a bit strange?

NOOBS COME HERE (Flame retardant zone)

So I've been a silent observer and massive leach on this forum for sometime, and I've felt like I should try to contribute something back to the community. I can't program ****, I'm little more than an adv. newb at this point. But I do understand how to flash roms, where to find things on the forum, Hard SPL, radio upgrades, REg edit, and all manner of things that most noobs don't. So the way I would like to give back to the community as a whole is to try to answer questions, ANY questions noobs might have without flaming them. My hope is that alot of the questions that annoy our senior members can be directed here, and I can help people find the answers to their questions. I usually check in 2 or 3 times a day, and as long as the traffic doesn't get overwhelming I'll do my best to help.
Thanks to all the chefs, Moderators, and senior members who contribute so much to keep me crack addicted to my stupid cell phone.
where can I find a threaded "palm" like sms application?
totally kidding, this is the most asked question on here i think.
I think rather than do a Q and A, see if you can post step by step "noob" questions defining the differences between hardSPL, radios, ... and why everyone talks about them.
That would be a good bit of information that we can add to the wiki. Just define the key words everyone talks about or something. Personally, I have flashed a few roms on my 8525s but still dont read enough to determine why people like the older radios vs the 1.48. and why some roms dont have radio and such vs ones that do. That alone would be beneficial to me.
GOD you guys are idiots, fricking n00bs.. USE THE SEARCH! ..
j/k ..
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hoyter said:
where can I find a threaded "palm" like sms application?. Personally, I have flashed a few roms on my 8525s but still dont read enough to determine why people like the older radios vs the 1.48. and why some roms dont have radio and such vs ones that do. That alone would be beneficial to me.
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From what I can tell people some people use older radios for several reasons.
1st Flashing the radio is potentially extremely perilous. It's not hard to do but if something goes wrong it CAN potentially brick your phone. Even if you have Hard SPL. Therefore some tend to be more conservative about flashing their radios. Roms are available without the radio for this reason as well, it's less dangerous and people have varying opinions about which radio is best
2nd which radio is best for you seems to depend somewhat on what area you live in, what service you have, and whether battery life or performance is more important to you. Their are various opinnions about which radio version is better but they all seem somewhat subjective. PEople report better signal strength with one version or another, or better battery life with one version or another. But from what I can tell 1.48 and 1.40.3 seem to be two of the favorites. 1.48 because it's new and doesn't seem to be causing TOO many problems, and 1.40.3 because its tested and most haven't had trouble with it.
Hope this helps.
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GOD you guys are idiots, fricking n00bs.. USE THE SEARCH! ..
j/k ..
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You JUST couldn't resist could you!
ok, so i just got my 8525 saturday, havent done much of anything, just got around to putting all of my contacts into outlook and syncing onto my phone. i want to get to the point where i can check out different roms and what not, so i started with the hardsplv7 installation, and two tries in a row i got an error regarding my device not being connected via usb correctly or something, yet im clearly connected because i just synced and such. help a dude out
mattblaxin said:
ok, so i just got my 8525 saturday, havent done much of anything, just got around to putting all of my contacts into outlook and syncing onto my phone. i want to get to the point where i can check out different roms and what not, so i started with the hardsplv7 installation, and two tries in a row i got an error regarding my device not being connected via usb correctly or something, yet im clearly connected because i just synced and such. help a dude out
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Well since I like the idea of a flameproof zone, I will jump in here as well. Before you even consider posting a total newb question you should have read a couple of dozen posts, just like yours. Because then you would know that you would get flamed for not posting all of the important information. Are you using XP or Vista? what radio version are you using, what bootloader did your phone come with. What IPL/SPL?
my bad, IPL-1.01, SPL-1.40 Olipro. XP
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You JUST couldn't resist could you!
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yeah my moneys with Madcap180, i saw this posted a day or so ago and wondered how long till loweryr gets the ****s with the nooby questions.
Have you tried this?
mattblaxin said:
my bad, IPL-1.01, SPL-1.40 Olipro. XP
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Check out this site by Mrvanx he has put a lot of work into helping people out
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
There are detailed instructions on how to do this. AND it's very important that you do. Don't give up if you have problems getting hardspl as I'm sure you already know it makes flashing ROMS much safer.
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yeah my moneys with Madcap180, i saw this posted a day or so ago and wondered how long till loweryr gets the ****s with the nooby questions.
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There has hardly been any action here for weeks. So at this rate I'll be on to my next phone before I get "the ****s with the nooby questions" But your right if it takes off I'll probably regret it
alright, learned a lot in the last...day or so, flashed olipro finally, tried out some roms, settling with jasjammins black majik for the time being, and flashed radio 1.50. now time to figure out some more cool things to jump into
okay, the sim and cid unlocker is confusing the hell out of me... if i've installed hardspl 2.10 olipro and it enables supercid, then why do i need to unlock the sim or the cid...? do i need to use the unlocker in order to upgrade my rom to a new one...? i'm using an at&t 8525...
thanks for this thread by the way... sometimes i just need things to be explained in a plain clear fashion from people who know how to use the english language and sometimes when i read things on here the english language is butchered and things don't come across right and becomes confusing... i'm just looking for simple answers to simple questions...
from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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Sounds like you have a good grasp of the concepts you mentioned.
bashing posts have been deleted. I have no tolerance for newbie bashing, especially on this thread which is specifically titled. I will start handing out bans if I see this again
mattblaxin said:
from what ive gathered so far, olipro basically puts the device into a temporary supercid mode when flashing so you wont run the risk of bricking the phone via a corrupted cid, so i dont know why one would need to be permanently cid unlocked. And as far as sim unlocking, that is so that u can use ur phone with any carrier using sim cards, att, tmobile, etc. and if u have the 8525 and are using cingular i dont see why u would need to sim unlock unless ive missed something as im still a "noob" to a lot of this stuff but im workin on it
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yeah, i'm still a noob more or less, but it's getting better... it's just some of this stuff is a little complicated and i like to see things done on a step by step basis, like a cookbook... here is the recipe and here are the ingredients and here is how you put them altogether and viola, a fine dish...
okay, i understand about the temp supercid when flash thanks to hardspl 2.10 olipro... i don't know why someone would need to have a permanently unlocked cid either, since i can't seem to find an explanation as to what a cid unlock will get you... a sim unlock i understand fully about moving the phone to other networks via a sim... i'm just interested in knowing if i have to do anything besides run hardspl 2.10 olipro to upgrade to a new rom...
im running with att, got my 8525 on ebay already unlocked with an older version of olipro installed and the black shadow rom. I flashed to the newest version of olipro (after a few difficulties with the 260 error which i havent really had since), flashed to a newer radio (1.50) and tried like 5 different roms. I have no idea if my phone is perma sid unlocked. If u want some step by step recipe type directions check out the mrvanx website and read one of the guides for installing one of the roms which are on there, starts off with installing olipro and goes thru till the end, and if the guide isnt dealing with the rom u want just substitute the one u want in
mattblaxin said:
im running with att, got my 8525 on ebay already unlocked with an older version of olipro installed and the black shadow rom. I flashed to the newest version of olipro (after a few difficulties with the 260 error which i havent really had since), flashed to a newer radio (1.50) and tried like 5 different roms. I have no idea if my phone is perma sid unlocked. If u want some step by step recipe type directions check out the mrvanx website and read one of the guides for installing one of the roms which are on there, starts off with installing olipro and goes thru till the end, and if the guide isnt dealing with the rom u want just substitute the one u want in
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right... i went to mrvanx' site and read the instruction 10 times over... seems straight enough... i'm going to try out the tnt 2.0 6 meg+htc rom, but i wanted to start from scratch with the phone... right now i'm a little stuck... i tried a hard reset just to get everything back to where it was, but i don't think i'm doing it right or the at&t 8525 that i have (which is brand new from at&t) isn't giving me the screen i need to be seeing according to the wiki... the wiki states that if you want to hard reset, hold down the 2 softkeys (the two keys on the left and the right at the top of the keyboard) and press the reset switch with your stylus at the bottom of your device, then you should be presented with a screen that says 'R' for reset or 'X' for exit... i didn't get that screen at all, but it does do a reset (apparently), but my name and contacts are still intact... i thought a hard reset was a total wipe of the device... maybe i'm wrong...?
also, i go to the bootloader screen and it says herm100 ipl-1.04 and below that it says herm100 spl-2.10.olipro... most confusing...
okay... here is an update on the hard reset... i instead went into the clear settings applet and hard reset that way... however, when i do a bootloader screen check, it still says ipl-1.04 and spl-2.1.olipro... i thought it would change everything back... so now it is all clear... i'll reformat my minisd card to fat32 and then i'll install the new tnt 2.0 and see what happens... i'll keep you up to date on any issues...

Experiment that brings bricks back to life.

Okay today I intentionally bricked my phone. Not once, not twice, but 6 times with three bad ROM's (long boring day) and pulled the USB during the flashing at around 20%-95% as well as other no,no's
The experiment. To see how fast, and what I would use to unbrick it. Now being stuck in an all white screen or bootloader might bring fear or tears to some, but what I discovered is probably the best and easiest way to get your phone back to life in a relatively short amount of time.
If this has been covered before or mentioned elsewhere I didn't see it so I apologize if thats the case.
After I bricked each time I simply hooked up the usb cable to my pc. As you know when you are bricked or stuck in a loader Active Sync does not launch. What I found was that if you use a factory WM6 AT&T ROM it will still connect via usb and will flash said ROM 100% of the time restoring you're phone to a working state.
Now I did this 6 times today and it worked every time. I mean I really f'd with this second phone unplugging, Task Manager'd out during a flash, hard reset during a flash, etc. Every time it worked.
Hope this helps.
Well, you have been only lucky for 1 reason:
You always 'bricked' your device when it was in the middle of flashing the OS! This does not really matter as long as BOOTLOADER and CID are intact!
Do the same experiment but this time pull the plug at 15% and you will most likely fail to recover from that! At around 15% is the moment where the CID block gets written to the phones ROM.
Be very carefully that you do not 'brick' your device earlier because of in the state before 15% IPL and SPL are getting flashed! If you destroy the bootloader you can't do anything anymore!
If you are going to try that out please flash your phone first with the nbh from the CINGULAR WM5 (it is in the wiki) by using CustomRUU! CINGULAR WM5 has KITL enabled and you will be able to 'unbrick' your device by using the GUIDE in the WIKI.
I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK YOUR DEVICE TO A POINT OF NO RECOVERY POSSIBLE!
CID block is never written to the phone, it's just an area of storage inside the GSM chip.
however, if incomplete code is flashed to the GSM chip, the radio AT interface cant' boot... and then there's no way of talking to it, hence making it now dead.
On a different note, if the Radio Bootloader is in the middle of flashing (although I believe 0108 is persistent) and the connection is broken, you're now royally ****ed.
So, the GSM chip is not in the phone then?
<just kidding!>
However,
pulling the plug around 15% will most likely end in a brick! That was where I had my pc crash - thankfully KITL was enabled!
Tried again
Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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HARD SPL? try a different SPL and then try it again...
Oh yeah... Try to kill your bootloader too... And if it's like one of my devices
(HTC Charmer with a black screen... Only the power led lights up for half a second when I press the power button)
then try to flash your "holy" rom
eh, i don't understand why people call it bricking if only the OS needs a reflash
I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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then you are crazy
There are 2 possible explanations for your "luck":
Either the ROM you're flashing contains nothing but the OS and maybe the EXTENDED ROM in which case it does not really matter if you pull the plug because of your BOOTLOADER and GSM will remain intact or your FLASHING UTILITY 'ignors' the BOOTLOADER / GSM flash and writes only the OS and EXTENDED (which would have the same effect as case 1 when pulling the plug!).
However,
flashing an entire ROM takes a while, especially between 12% and 30% if you flash IPL / SPL / SPLASH / GSM / OS / EXTENDED - there is enough time to pull the plug at 15% because of it takes almost a minute until it jumps to 16% ...
I don't want to animate you to try that out because of sooner or later you will brick the device for sure!
Can you host the ROM file + flashing utility you used for your experiments, so, that we can download it and take a closer look?
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I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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The world belongs to renegades and mavericks...
I did it with TNT's latest as well as VP3G 3.62
OK I'll bite where is WM6 AT&T ROM?
I have a bircked phone tytn (tried to unsucessfully unbrick around 50 times), not sure why or where it bricked.
Can reload but sticks at screen alignemnt EVERY TIME.
Was given as a challenge (failed so far).
If I could find this and it worked I be happy chappy long time.
If it works of mine it will work on anyone's.
Give it up dudes (or duedess if there is one out there).
Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
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Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
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He gave you the info you need. Go to HTC's site. Or use google.
K since i took the time to post this I might as well link it.
Go to the bottom of this page.
It is about time to give out a WARNING !!!
People, do not try to brick your device and trust in that you can recover from that by using the ROM from the HTC's website! This is not a magic tool and it won't bring your Hermes back to life if your device is really screwed up! There is nothing in the Cingular ROM what 'magically' does the trick! IHAVETINYBALLS was either just lucky or he isn't really bricking his device (consciously or unconsciously).
If you do not believe me ask other senior members with lots of experiences, such as OliP ...
However, I know there is no way of stopping fools to do foolish things, so, go ahead, destroy your expensive toy! You can always find a new one on eBay ... !
For all the retards who don't get it. (meaning the point)
To the dip**** retards who don't get the point. Like I said, I am probably just lucky. And like I said again, DO NOT try this unless your phone is stuck and ****ed, it was just an experiment. I have two 8525's one I bought as a refurb from AT&T for $99 and another one that was from an angry owner who threw it away at the AT&T store (as it was bricked and now "useless") and I pulled it from the garbage bin. Recovered it (just did a hard reset and put in a new battery and factory ROM and did a few experiments.
It didn't cost me anything and I did put a warning out there. The point of it all was that if you give up on bringing it back to life, maybe just maybe you should try this out.
Obviously if your phone is working just fine, don't do this or your a ****ing retard. Its meant for bricked or stuck phones as a possible recovery as it worked on said phone numerous times in various states of bad flashing and various types of ROMs.
This phone is now running vp3G 3.62 and now has HARD SPL.7, and Radio 1.54.07 and is running flawlessly.
So one mans brick/stuck frustration is making for an excellent spare / backup for me.
trying now
ok - have hybrid brick (no KITL, screwed CID and radio)
if everyone crosses their fingers at the same time maybe it will help???
will post back results!
Bugger
thanks for giving me hope! but alas...no good
hopefully someone else can figure out how to get back from a hybrid brick of no KITL and SPL 1.09

NoGSM Error in Jasjam

Hi,
I have a Jasjam which is getting NoGSM errors. I believe this may be causing my hanging issues that I've been having a lot of.
I've had a look at the Wiki page on this, and a couple of things aren't very clear.
I'm currently running Bootloader SPL-1.10, and it says to go back to 1.04. Can I change to SPL-2.10Oli to do this as well (I guess this is easier).
Also, after this step, it says to Flash the patched radio to simunlock my jasjam, however it is already simunlocked.
I just wanted to clarify these things before giving this a go, so if anybody can enlighten me it would be greatly appreciated, as it is really starting to get to me.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
NoGSM Error in Jasjam - clarification of wiki
Just wanted to change the title...
Just wanted to bump this to see if anybody can help me out. I'm still having NoGSM problems, have tried the fix on the Wiki, but things aren't completely clear, as so far it hasn't made any difference.
Sorry mate, probably because no-one HAS a surefire method to fix the "No GSM" problem. Lots of people claim that something fixed it but they seem to keep popping up in the threads still trying to fix their problem. You might have to just try everything until you either give up or something noticeably improves or someone pulls the answer out of thin air.. We all live under the threat of "No GSM" and dread the day if/when it will finally arrive... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can shoot me til your hearts content.
Cheers...
Thanks for that, so pretty much I should keep on trying to flash different radios until I find one that sticks around for a while?
Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
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Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
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Hi, I've got a Jasjam (so therefore it's a Telstra phone). I've gone from the official rom to unofficial roms and back again. I've installed individual radio roms. Most things go onto the phone fine, and it will work perfectly for maybe half a day, and then it crashes, and when I restart I get NoGSM. I might reset it 5 times, and then the radio will come back.
I bought it on ebay, but I've managed to get hold of the details to get a duplicate invoice, so I've put the phone back onto Telstra ROM and a standard SPL, and I'm going to get them to have a look at it, as it looks as though it's a hardware problem, unless any of you smart bods here have other ideas...
Can anybody shed any extra light before I take it into the shop? Just don't want to admit defeat if I can
If you can, the best way to fix is through warranty. If they try to fix 3 times and fail they have to give you a new handset. I believe Telstra no longer have the jasjams so you might be upgraded to the Tytn II.
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
jpwhre said:
i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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The difficultly with Cricket is there is no "stock" Rom for this phone. I had the same problem with a Palm Treo, it worked great until I ported my home phone number to the phone and I lost internet. I could only find the same instructions that I have and must have punched it in a thousand times, called Cricket a couple to have my data package removed and added and nothing. When I swapped out for a Cricket Motorola K1m KRZR everything worked just fine. So something happened to the phone and I wasn't going to fix it as there was no stock rom to go to. You might try buying a cheap real Cricket phone off ebay, changing to that phone and then change back to the Titan and see if that changes something. $15 per swap though, maybe find a friend that can do it for free. Hope this helps.
I have other phones, even an other titan, same rom and everything. It has been my test phone for flashing. I didn't want to boar group with story. I ordered one from fundevices and after 6 weeks of waiting and calling, I ordered on off evilbay and it showed in two days. Ran it for a bit the way it came with 6.0 and would send pic but not recieve. Fathers day wife, kids and I went camping and my phone got soaked with soda (floated in it for while on car charger before I found it). Sunday we got home and I took phone apart and cleaned screen side best I could, but mother board and key board got most damage. It would come on, then off, and on, and off........
anyway I washed the mother board in hot water and dish soap in big bowl for about 15 minutes. Put all back together making sure everything was 100% dry. Turned it on, nothing. But it would charge battery. Monday the first one oredered (after 10 weeks) was at my door after work. I didn't activate it knowing I was going to change the rom, and just used wifi for about 5 days. Still using damaged one as a charger and backup battery. I sent both phones to to0 (mike cooper) and had him flash the to0v3 rom on one, but he couldn't get wet phone to come on. When I got phones back, it still had 1.20 bootloader and his rom. No gps, and it took me a week to get the net to work and mms never worked. Sent it to him under the impression that his rom posted on ppc, hofo and cricket phone talk saying everything worked, was what I was getting him to do. When I got it back, activated it, and made a call, no mic. It's not broken. Missing driver, missing patch? Don't know, I know it works. Make a call (not activated) and blow in mic. Get static. Do a video, and it records and plays back sound, but to do a voice command, or record a voice memo nothing. After a few days the battery was low, but not dead. I took backup off damaged phone and put in low battery and turned on (constant on and off would kill it for sure) and it came on. I mean it is the phone I use everyday, flashing, no luck, this post. Been going for about 6 weeks. Still untouched, 2.09 sprint rom with 1.32.00 radio, and it had a dcd hack since windows media player said dcd rom in back ground. How it came working on cricket. While flashing phone with no mic, I hooked up good phone and did unlocker on it without really knowing what I was doing. Of course it stuck in bootloader and I had no clue what to do. By now I have flashed, and flashed, and flashed. Even ripping apart roms posted to put together some things. E.G. dcd 1.6.0 to get stock 1.06 spl and putting it in 2.09 rom that was on phone ruu folder to get phone locked to do hard spl 2.40 Original rom had 1.20 and every time i relocker, it would get stuck in bootloader and then I would flash original rom, thus completing a circle.
How I got to where I'm at now. With 2.09 rom, use relocker, then rom I pieced up to get out of bootloader. Then run hard spl 2.40 since unlocker doesn't, and flashing 2.47 from card always gets me stuck in 2.07 bootloader. Once done hard spl, it's stuck in 1.20 bootloader, flash sprint 3.56, half way thru it stops and wants to recover (don't). remove battery and turn back on and force phone into bootloader and it is 2.40, flash vCBU and when done it gets stuck in boot screen and only thing in red letters is "no radio". Force in bootloader and flash 3.56 and not let customize. Then back to bootloader and flash over vCBU again. Then flash vboots. Then go thru and do reg hacks and fill in stuff for modem. And that is where I am. And yes, that is only way I could get everything flashed. 4 diff attempts on 2 phones, all left same path. Still have my nokia 6265 but wife uses for backup charger for her 6275 and some old dot matrix green screen cricket phones. I was hoping for an easier resilution. Since on phone was almost 4 bills, one was almost 3 bills, and sending to to0 to flashed was 70, pluse switching back and forth at cricket.
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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Was there a question in there?
How far did you get? where are you stuck? what part do you need help with?
Can you not flash 3.2.6 and run the cricket carrier cab to get all this working..? (I have VZW.. so I'm not sure about cricket)
Question is fairly clear. I posted link to ppcgeeks where my origanl question was, and when I said something about ruffling featers. Will I get anywhere asking this group to help me since it is a near perfect mirror of ppc geeks as for as stickies, threads, even what is in the threads word for word, bashing ppc for not having the backbone to answer my request for help and trying to get it here? If you read my post at ppc showing that my mms kinda works, my net does work my gps doesn't work, dialing *228 after going thru a list of prls. I guess it would be obvious of the whole, is there a question here?
How come my gps don't work after filling all appropriate fields in?
What the hell is up with my mms?
Why can't I get *228 to program my phone after changing prls
Why does the evdo change to 1x when in call and on net?
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Why hasn't cricket mofia chirped in?
And, isn't the process I went thru supposed to give me evdo rev a? To0's rom didn't, even after boasting it did. I have done dcd roms, but they seem to be too blahh for me. In my post at ppc it shows my pc is junk (ibm). Figuring out my build os to come up with with my own rom is a joke, it took me 2 hours to do first post here. (really) and ended up having to do it on my titan. Only thing I would trade on the vito rom is the feedback in exchange for windows update.
Sorry, but you asked.
Wow that seems like a lot of frustration, I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried to bring the phone back to its original carrier like Verizon or Sprint and then started over with the latest Radio and DCD Rom? The reason I ask is it seems that you might need to start from a known point to "clean" out all the "custom" stuff. You also might want to contact Bunvilla as he PMed me with Cricket info and has he Mogul working on Cricket:
well i bought a qwest mogul which was configured for qwest network. It took a few day to find a way to get the SPC or MSL code as they call it which allows me to go into the settings and change it from qwest to cricket settings. Once the settings have been changed then u will be able to gain access on crickets network. There is a very important file called a PRL which u need to load onto the phone but can only do it if u have the SPC code. good news i can tell u how to get any carries SPC code for the mogul/ its a piece of cake to switch and way cheaper of a bill and u will have access to all the features internet and everything. hope this has helped " cricket rules"
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I unfortunately am not on Cricket with my Titan. I am getting ready to flash a Verizon Motorola K1m KRZR over to Cricket but it seems way different process. I hope you do figure it out and some one on Cricket here can help you get past this ugly mess. Hopefully Bunvilla can help. I will PM him now and ask him to get in touch with you.
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Question is fairly clear. I posted link to ppcgeeks where my origanl question was, and when I said something about ruffling featers. Will I get anywhere asking this group to help me since it is a near perfect mirror of ppc geeks as for as stickies, threads, even what is in the threads word for word, bashing ppc for not having the backbone to answer my request for help and trying to get it here? If you read my post at ppc showing that my mms kinda works, my net does work my gps doesn't work, dialing *228 after going thru a list of prls. I guess it would be obvious of the whole, is there a question here?
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Well, first I would like to help you… but you posted a link that does not take me to a post.. it takes me to a general forum.. And it’s the Vogue Forum at that. I’m not searching another board for your question. So Excuse me for not knowing your question.
Second, While I have not read your post there.. If you posted with anywhere near the lack of information or general attitude (as if you are entitled to be helped) as you did here.. I can see why nobody helped you. (edit I see more info in your second post but you are all over the place and filled with irrelevant info it's hardly readable)
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Yes, a proper post with a well phrased question, information on what rom / radio / and steps you’ve taken.. and a proper post title will almost always get a response and the help you need to get you on the right track. The post title is important because people see those and decide.. “Hey I know how to fix that” (MMS and GPS on Cricket Help) would be a good one. Your title “Will this work” will be skipped by most people. So… if you don’t follow those steps.. NO it’s not worth asking here.
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-- Why hasn't cricket mofia chirped in? And, isn't the process I went thru supposed to give me evdo rev a?
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Cant tell ya.. don’t know what process you went through. Don’t know what cricket mofia is?
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To0's rom didn't, even after boasting it did.
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It’s possible you did something wrong… Because a rom does not work for you, you cant go blaming the rom.. unless everyone or most people have the problem. (I’m not familiar with that rom) If many people use it, and it works for most.. then the problem is probably you.. Bashing the rom will get you nowhere fast.
** Edit** Didn't realize To0's Rom was installed for you for $$.. odd?
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I have done dcd roms, but they seem to be too blahh for me. In my post at ppc it shows my pc is junk (ibm).
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DCD is what I use… Not sure I can help you with another rom… I cant fix your PC either. Whats blahh about a DCD rom.. Can you tell me what makes another rom better. They are all about the same except the performance tweaks and stability. DCD is stable and performs well.. everything else is an app that can be installed on any rom.
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Figuring out my build os to come up with with my own rom is a joke, it took me 2 hours to do first post here. (really) and ended up having to do it on my titan. Only thing I would trade on the vito rom is the feedback in exchange for windows update. Sorry, but you asked.
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You obviously have a lot of problems….
If you want help.. you need to run something most users can support.. you say DCD roms are blahh.. But that’s where you’ll get the best support.
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How I got to where I'm at now. With 2.09 rom, use relocker, then rom I pieced up to get out of bootloader. Then run hard spl 2.40 since unlocker doesn't, and flashing 2.47 from card always gets me stuck in 2.07 bootloader. Once done hard spl, it's stuck in 1.20 bootloader, flash sprint 3.56, half way thru it stops and wants to recover (don't). remove battery and turn back on and force phone into bootloader and it is 2.40, flash vCBU and when done it gets stuck in boot screen and only thing in red letters is "no radio". Force in bootloader and flash 3.56 and not let customize. Then back to bootloader and flash over vCBU again. Then flash vboots. Then go thru and do reg hacks and fill in stuff for modem. And that is where I am. And yes, that is only way I could get everything flashed. 4 diff attempts on 2 phones, all left same path. Still have my nokia 6265 but wife uses for backup charger for her 6275 and some old dot matrix green screen cricket phones. I was hoping for an easier resilution. Since on phone was almost 4 bills, one was almost 3 bills, and sending to to0 to flashed was 70, pluse switching back and forth at cricket.
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This whole process is wierd....
So I think I understand.. you are at SPL 2.40? Because 2.47 would not work? You put a sprint rom on it, but it says no radio?
Are you against DCD 3.2.6? I'll cook you a rom with the features you want and put it on my FTP if your computer is too slow to do it.
Do you have an SD card thats less than 2GB and formatted with Fat 32?
If so.. I should be able to help you get working.
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wow!!!! Its gonna be ok lil buddy. hang in there and have some patients ( i know your patients has been depleted) and i will try and help u to get answers and your phone working properly again.
I personally have so much on my plate that i dont get to "ppc geekout" as much as i used to.
1) How come my gps don't work after filling all appropriate fields in?
well the answer is that u shouldnt really have to enter anything in any field/ just make sure that the radio and the rom are both of the GPS rom release. cant have a pregps radio with a gps enabled rom, this is not good.
2)What the hell is up with my mms?
mms is a fickled thing , especially for us cricket people/ the problem is the wap settings and some wierd issue in the reg where a certain setting would basically block our phones from recieving the mms message.
Long story short is that with the updating of roms (from wm5 to wm6 to wm6.1) the mms seems to also have changed and just when we figure out what the problem is , it gets changed. and also cricket service doesnt use as sophisticated servers for handling mms as lets say "sprint" so we cricket people have to make changes to get our mms to work . BUT in a nut shell i have successfully got mms to work with the latest PPCKITCHEN rom release.
It took me 5 1/2 hours to figure out y i couldnt get PPCKITCHEN to work on my computer./ had to use a utility to remove netframe work and then download a 200mbsfile of netframe 3.5 and that did the trick.
3)Why can't I get *228 to program my phone after changing prls?
BECAUSE U DONT HAVE YOUR SPC or MSL CODE SET TO 000000!
PERIOD!!!! im not yelling just letting u know exactly y/ ive done this successfully twice to my current titan/ cricket sets its SPC code for all its phones to 000000/ so when it trys to access your phone it cant get pass the code/ i have the modem drivers and program u will need (which i dont know if we are aloud to mention it here) but i have it and will pass it on to u/
4)Why does the evdo change to 1x when in call and on net?
now naturally your phone will switch betwwen evdo and 1x /1x when you recieve or make a call send a text msg etc, and evdo when using data/
connection/ Now i also expierenced a couple months back when my phone all of a sudden would not stay in evdo mode no matter what i did/ i think it was a certain rom and radio combo which fixed it, but anyhow first things first.
PS by the way, these 2 files have gotten me unstuck from the boot loader mode a bunch of times and i would say the most valuable files to have are these two/
i will PM u ok , lets just take it slow k, your situation sounds like a bunch of software issues which is ALOT better than defective hardware issues
JPWHRE
sorry if my spelling suks im a lil tired/ I did get a PM from jambrose/ So just to let u know, that u should give him a big thanks/ not that i wouldnt of helped u if i came across your post but to be honest i dont read alot of the posts anymore/
And by the way jambrose, its good to hear from u. Im glad u r out there helping these guys, and keeping the support going.
hey JPWHRE
for some reason i cant send u an attachment in a PM so i guess ill post the files and info here ok
1)First run the "titan RELOCKER" file with your
phone connected to active
sync, it should return your
phone to the stock
bootloader/
2)Next run the "titan unlocker"
next , this will allow u to
install olipro 1.20/ after
running the unlocker and
following its instructions u
might be in bootloader mode
if i remember right
3) your phone should be in
bootloader mode now,(if it
aint, put it in boot mode) so
just run the "ROM update
utility" in the "olipro 1.20
unlocker" folder im sending u
k/
** u may still be in
bootloader mode when u r done
installing the 1.20 BL, NO
PROBLEM, just run the
DisconnectActiveSync.exe file
first in the "Unlockboot
folder" i have included, THEN
the "titan_exitbl.exe"/
THIS should cause your phone
to reboot.
4)next i believe we r ready
to load radio ( for some
reason the radios can only be
installed using olipro 1.20)
in the folder i have the
radio in, u will run the ROM
update utility and install
the radio.
5) Next u will need to update
your bootloader to 2.40, so
that u can load a custom rom.
Just run the
"Hard-240SPL-MFG.exe" file
ive included and it should
update u with no problems,
Once this has been done u can
now go and install ROM of
your choice/ *** PPCKITCHEN latest rom release allows MMS for us cricket folks**** and if u installed the ROM and cant get the MMS to work just PM me and ill give u the instructions to enable it, there is some adjustment that will need to be made first , so dont worry , we will get it working k**
6) well my friend this has
taken alot out of me/ i will
post these instructions im
giving u under your thread
that way incase i have missed
something, somebody can
inform us/
PS GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND, and
if u get stuck or have a
question, just PM me, but if
i dont get back to u right
away, be patient, k
heres a link to all the neccessary files, its to big to add as an attachement:
http://rs568tg.rapidshare.com/files/143162512/LOCK_un_LOCK_files.rar
bunvilla
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i try, realy i do. have done all with no help (not that i haven't asked) but i can only get so far. really kills me to read signatures of others bragging how they have their titan going with gps,mms,net (everything including kitchen sink) on cricket. yet i get nowhere, even when 3 ask. i know that ppcgeeks is almost a mirror of this site, and i don't mean to ruffle feathers, but ppc only seems to be a good place to SEARCH, i'm having no luck with forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
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DID THIS HELP U???? I havent heard one way or the other from u so i am wondering if this worked for u ??
Just looking for a place to start...
I have Cricket on my PoS Cricket phone. Unlimited mobile web on my account. I also have an originally T-mobile Wizard which I've been using just as a mini-laptop and to learn to cook, flash, etc on...
I'm about to buy a Mogul which is supposedly Cricket flashed and/or a Sprint phone originally. As I understand it, either of these should be qualifiers for a fully functional Cricket Smartphone, yes? I want my voicemail, text messages, to surf the web via my cell connection as well as wifi. Bluetooth, gps, and just about anything else are icing that isn't -truly- a requisite for me. What thread should I start reading for -any- Rom that will accomplish the above. I don't mind if the rom is "too blahh". If you are opposed to singling out a specific rom that you (as a cricket customer with a running mogul) like...You could always post a few that you know work. I understand how the "best rom" politics go.
Also, if there are any other considerations I should keep in mind, please reply!

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