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I'm running:
ROM 1.60a.00 WWE (the BUZZ version)
Radio 1.17.00
on a QTEC 2020 (orange nl version) the M1000
It is very slow responding.
It starts very slow.
It drains battery extremely fast (the 2003 version gave me no empty battery during the day, the 2k5 version drained my battery in one night).
I can't get TomTom 3 installed.
Any suggestions?
Search the other threads: each issue you mention is noted elsewhere. The only answer is: "Welcome to the current state of WM2005 as repackaged for the HTC Himalaya series".
Strange.. I also have the SPVM1000 of Orange NL..
Got 1.60a running and Radio 1.18; and it doesn't drain the battery that fast. It lasts a couple of days (4 or 5)..
I just reflash'ed it to radio 1.17. Let's see what's the result, maybe it's the fault of the radio rom. I'll keep you posted if it drains that fast..
The phone speaker audio quality is to low!! (Comparing to WM2003 on Qtek 2020)
Do you guys think WM6 speed is slower than WM5? or just my imagination?
I have tried AKU 2.2 , 2.3, 3.2 , then WM6 pdamobiz V2, WM6 PDAVIET 4.0.0.6 touch version, I found that both wm6 version respond time are slow, is it just these 2 build, or generally , WM6 is slower?
I have to downgrade to 2.2 jester R1 again.... still find that it's a best version at the moment....
I am using now PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 I find it ok for my needs. Indeed the fastest for me was ASERG 3.3.13 - amazingly fast rom. Before that I used the official version from o2 - it was an AKU 2.0 and was awful.
chavdar said:
I am using now PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 I find it ok for my needs. Indeed the fastest for me was ASERG 3.3.13 - amazingly fast rom. Before that I used the official version from o2 - it was an AKU 2.0 and was awful.
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same with me for both;
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 &
ASERG 3.3.13
still ASERG 3.3.13 is incredibly faster and stable,
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 much faster in my s200 than wm5.. but battery deployment much higher...
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PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 much faster in my s200 than wm5.. but battery deployment much higher...
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PDaviet 4.0.0.6 touch is the fastest Os ive tried although the program memmory is less since it is 8mb pagepool...........
it isn't really faster. wm6 has some improvements like faster loading of startmenu icons after a softreset or a faster windows directory access, but the rest of the speed is the same. opera doesn't render faster and coreplayer isn't able to use higher bitrates. and performance improvements which only can be recognized with benchmarking (for example sktools) aren't important. two or three point higher scores aren't subjective improvements.
wm6 is faster but it is only a little advantage over wm5.
Try Smart1 V3. It operates at lightspeed compared to official WM5 ROM. Specially when using Batterystatus. Mine is running constantly at 286Mhz without significant heating up.
oh, my official wm5 rom from o2 was SUCH A PAIN. they forced me to use these "illegal" unofficial roms. booting the device took 5 minutes and accessing the windows directory caused a 3 minutes long loading circle...
I'm a little bit confused
WM6 is so slow on my device and few bugs, but of course newer versions and functions in the core, sure it is better but slower
I'm using WM5 2.2 witch is old but fast and stable I try every newer version of pdaviet and Prophet Touch; as I have now adsl connection at my work but no time; in my tests they are the best but go back to wm5 2.2 always waiting the final wm6 version from microsoft and ROM makers here wish that it will be good
again wm6 is slower than wm5
Hi there. Sorry if this might be posted somewhere else, but I didn't find anything using the search.
Is there an alternative ROM for the Atom life (explicid life, I think the other Atoms are slightly different because of the lacking 3G feature I think the Chipset will be different).
By now I'm using the WM6 Rom by O2, but I got a very lousy Standby time and I think the Atom could be faster and not using so much of the RAM. By now after Reset I have about 22-23 MB free RAM and I already tweaked quite a lot, without thi tweaking my RAM is down to roundabout 18MB. Are there any other ROMs availible which are more slim. Maybe another Radio ROM which improves Battery life?
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Hi there. Sorry if this might be posted somewhere else, but I didn't find anything using the search.
Is there an alternative ROM for the Atom life (explicid life, I think the other Atoms are slightly different because of the lacking 3G feature I think the Chipset will be different).
By now I'm using the WM6 Rom by O2, but I got a very lousy Standby time and I think the Atom could be faster and not using so much of the RAM. By now after Reset I have about 22-23 MB free RAM and I already tweaked quite a lot, without thi tweaking my RAM is down to roundabout 18MB. Are there any other ROMs availible which are more slim. Maybe another Radio ROM which improves Battery life?
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Sometimes a 2rd party software is the coz of poor battery life. Specially those in the today plugin. what program did you install in your atom?
Today plugins i have:
SPB Pocket Plus, Diary, Weather, GRPS Monitor
Programs:
Opera, TomTom, PCMKeyboard, PCMContacts, Worms, Monopoly, Uptodate (Medical Sourcebook), Pocket Informant, Total Commander, Ifap Index (Medical Sourcebook), Merck Medicus, SK Tools, MemMaid, CorePlayer
I used all the Programs and Today Plugins also on my MDA Compact II (I think its the HTC Charmer. This one was quite slow, but I never had an empty battery, I even cant estimate my Standbytime or how long I could play MP3 or Video because I never got an empty battery. With my Atom life the battery is empty afer one night standby and netsearching or about 3.5 h of usage (ca. 1h Movie, 30-45 min MP3 and the rest working with the Medical Stuff). My Charmer had after this usage usally about 75% battery left.
Another thing is when navigating in the car and playing MP3 the Atom life stopps charging after about 15min (I think it is getting to warm) even on set CPU Profile to best power which should clock down the CPU.
Any ideas? Thanks for the quick answer.
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Today plugins i have:
SPB Pocket Plus, Diary, Weather, GRPS Monitor
Programs:
Opera, TomTom, PCMKeyboard, PCMContacts, Worms, Monopoly, Uptodate (Medical Sourcebook), Pocket Informant, Total Commander, Ifap Index (Medical Sourcebook), Merck Medicus, SK Tools, MemMaid, CorePlayer
I used all the Programs and Today Plugins also on my MDA Compact II (I think its the HTC Charmer. This one was quite slow, but I never had an empty battery, I even cant estimate my Standbytime or how long I could play MP3 or Video because I never got an empty battery. With my Atom life the battery is empty afer one night standby and netsearching or about 3.5 h of usage (ca. 1h Movie, 30-45 min MP3 and the rest working with the Medical Stuff). My Charmer had after this usage usally about 75% battery left.
Another thing is when navigating in the car and playing MP3 the Atom life stopps charging after about 15min (I think it is getting to warm) even on set CPU Profile to best power which should clock down the CPU.
Any ideas? Thanks for the quick answer.
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thats the reason...we viewed spb products as a power hungry program. Also, Dont use any CPU enhancer. Try to remove SPB program and use HTC plugin for your today appearance and monitor the battery life. Close all programs after using the RUnnIng PrograMs/Memory Option.Always Optimize ur atom using SK tools for RAM and performance. then tell me what happen.
OK, the SPB Software might be battery hungry. What alternatives are there for Pocket Plus and Diary. Weather isn't essential for me, so for this I don't need an alternative.
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OK, the SPB Software might be battery hungry. What alternatives are there for Pocket Plus and Diary. Weather isn't essential for me, so for this I don't need an alternative.
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HTC plugin is there and magic button
where to get htc plugin, don't find a download link. by the way, thanks for your help.
magic button looks awfull with wm6. used this with my old wm5 and it was great, but on wm6 it crampels with my clock and really doesn't look nice.
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OK, the SPB Software might be battery hungry. What alternatives are there for Pocket Plus and Diary. Weather isn't essential for me, so for this I don't need an alternative.
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A very good alt for diary is Todayagenda. its a very simplified version without tabs.
For pocket plus wat actually do u wan from this? Tabs for shortcuts? For me i used wisbar advance 3 which give me a very good task management and to insert shortcut at the system tray.
Cheer!!
kaidi
To things I really like about Pocket Plus, the alt tab function and finger friendly buttons.
Today Agenda is ok, but you can not make exclusions what not to show
what do you think about i launcher? is it also a battery messy like pocketplus?
Atom Life Twin?
sthoeft said:
Hi there. Sorry if this might be posted somewhere else, but I didn't find anything using the search.
Is there an alternative ROM for the Atom life (explicid life, I think the other Atoms are slightly different because of the lacking 3G feature I think the Chipset will be different).
By now I'm using the WM6 Rom by O2, but I got a very lousy Standby time and I think the Atom could be faster and not using so much of the RAM. By now after Reset I have about 22-23 MB free RAM and I already tweaked quite a lot, without thi tweaking my RAM is down to roundabout 18MB. Are there any other ROMs availible which are more slim. Maybe another Radio ROM which improves Battery life?
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I think XDA Comet - a.k.a - Atom Life with AKU0.4
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
jiggs said:
I think XDA Comet - a.k.a - Atom Life with AKU0.4
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
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This would be my prefered ROM, just the Comet isn't out in Germany jet, so no ROM to download availible. If it is there I'll try it because it's in german not that an english ROM is not understanable.
I tried hard to keep up with wm6, tried hard , all possible tweaks.So finally the other day, I thought of going back to WM5 and really it is much much stable, no soft resets, no hangups.Hard to get used to the wm5 interface as compared to the glossy wm6, but performance is what I desire, and now my apps open in seconds, memory leaks are minimal, audio in BT also goes well.
I really wonder, why WM is not fully compatible with Athena.All other devices it works like a charm, why not in Athena.
I think wm6 is quicker and more stable than wm5. I reset more often in the past.
Which wm6 ROM were you running? What applications were you using? It may be one or two applications giving you the problem.
Not much apps, I like to stick with the given apps.Use Windows Live, builtin Opera, sometimes may b NetFront, I do not play games, Skype, I use.That's it.
If u compare the speed of execution of these programms with other devices running wm6 such as Universal,Hermes, Kaiser, Blue Angel, and if we have the fastest processor 624 Mhz, it shd surpass the programe execution time.
WM6 I hv observed that, initially, it works well, but as the use goes on , it tends to slow down, and even it takes a lot of time to make a phone call, after I press "Talk".
I get 150 calls a day on an average fews Texts, few emails, 24 hrs connected to GPRS or Wi Fi whichever is available.
It is a suprise that Blue Angel reacts faster than athena to similar apps, and execution is very good and fast in devices like Hermes,Kaiser, Universal....all Running WM6, either official or cooked ones.
I really fail to understand, why such a thing with Athena.
Where do you install applications?
What does the sktools performance benchmark tells you about your card and MD.
How did you format your drives?
Do you regularly clear up the cache in opera?
How large is your contact database?
Sorry this seems like a so many questions, but there must be a cause of your problem which is not related to wm6. I say that because I've far far more applications than you, all running okay. I do avoid certain applications. Examples include the latest version of ilauncher.
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
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No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
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Then I guess it must be a question of expectation.
I've just looked up. BA is using WM2003, isn't it? Well, that explains why it is so fast. I have a very old WM2003 device that feels like a speed demon too. That brings us back to the old debate of whether or not microsoft made the right move by going int persistent memory, which if I ask me now, I'd still prefer the old approach.
Your Universal has been soldered with additional memory, has'nt it? Do you think this is the reason why it is so fast?
If you've used so many units of Athena and found speed problem with every one of them, when nothing has been loaded yet, it probably means you're expecting WM2003 speed on a WM5/WM6 machine. I'm doubtful that going back to WM5 will solve your problem, because from my experience, WM6 does seem faster.
Not sure where this leaves you and not sure how else to help though.
Hi,
I know that and understand your motive and respect that.If u check carefully, BA can b updated to wm6 aku 7.7
Also I hv uni with 128 ram, but 64 also runs quite well.
Can u imagine I am replying to this thread from Opera Running WM 5
Crispy and fast enough..and I feel the differrence.
Anyway I will try oncemore and report back
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
Midget_1990 said:
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
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In your expert opinion, why is this so? What is special about BA that makes it fly? Does the faster speed also apply to internet surfing too?
3rd day with WM5
-Only one soft reset
-Memory lowers to 70 Mb from 81 MB,use SK tools and rever it again.
-pmsn works great and fster.Skype is also more responsive.
-I think we all here shd give it a try and also research why this is so.Really WM5 wins as far as Athena is concerned.
Guru Try Dopod
hi GURU try dopod wm6
or try aptouch dual Virgin
Hello to all,
After almost 5 months, again a small contribution to our community, in a form of test od 6 different ROMs, 3x WM6 ROMs + 3x WM6.1 ROMs:
HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2
AP3 Dual by PK
WM6_TMUK_2.35.110.4
AP4 SPL 1.2 by Irus
Irus' SPL1.2 0 MB pp
MiChY's 2.14 light
3 new WM 6.1 ROMs are faster, and there is no itention to promote any of mentioned ROMs as the fastest one, or as the stablest one. Benchmarking is always a double-edged axe, so use the benchmark results only as - numbers
Testing conditions:
Device: T-Mobile Ameo
- clean ROM install, basic device configuration
- no miniSD, no SIM inserted
- SPB Benchmark(tm) DEVICE install (SPB Benchmark is a trade mark of Spb Software House)
- every ROM tested with 18 tests, 3 times x 15 minutes
Total time for installation, testing and table calculation: 6 h.
Regards,
MDA3__CRO
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- every ROM tested with 18 tests, 3 times x 15 minutes
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Results seems to be very similar.
What is deviance among 3 performed tests?
(realy for statistics there need to be more than 3...)
MDA3__CRO said:
Hello to all,
After almost 5 months, again a small contribution to our community, in a form of test od 6 different ROMs, 3x WM6 ROMs + 3x WM6.1 ROMs:
HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2
AP3 Dual by PK
WM6_TMUK_2.35.110.4
AP4 SPL 1.2 by Irus
Irus' SPL1.2 0 MB pp
MiChY's 2.14 light
3 new WM 6.1 ROMs are faster, and there is no itention to promote any of mentioned ROMs as the fastest one, or as the stablest one. Benchmarking is always a double-edged axe, so use the benchmark results only as - numbers
Testing conditions:
Device: T-Mobile Ameo
- clean ROM install, basic device configuration
- no miniSD, no SIM inserted
- SPB Benchmark(tm) DEVICE install (SPB Benchmark is a trade mark of Spb Software House)
- every ROM tested with 18 tests, 3 times x 15 minutes
Total time for installation, testing and table calculation: 6 h.
Regards,
MDA3__CRO
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AP4 by IRUS is Vanilla PP0 ????
vidmabal said:
Results seems to be very similar.
What is deviance among 3 performed tests?
(realy for statistics there need to be more than 3...)
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Yes, results are very similar, because a half of SPB Benchmarks in Main Test is a hardware dependent.
Just for an exemplar, here is a link for a previous 3 ROM SPB Benchmarks, which contain data about all of 3 series of testing and average results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385810
Just because of results table size, this time I didn't include results for 3 series of testing, only average results.
If you are familiar with SPB Benchamrk, you will know that every single test is
performed 13 times as internal benchmark process. I made 3 series of 18
different tests (it took over 10 minutes per serie), every of it is repeated 13 times
as a way of how SPB Benchmark is performed. Just 1 (one) SPB Main Benchmark Test
is sufficient for a fair result, but I made 3, just for any case.
If you want a very big result table, please, let me know, and I will post it here.
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AP4 by IRUS is Vanilla PP0 ????
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Yes, it is AP4 VANILLA 4 SPL 1.2 by Irus, nbh file release date is 05/21/08
IMHO and very subjective, I tried it in a effort to find ROM without message flaw I found in the newest ROMs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2605629#post2605629). I found it a very slow in opening applications and useless for me. But on SPB Benchmarks this ROM is slightly faster (have better results) than others.
It will be great if some mortscript guru will define a test suite script for windows mobile devices... based on REAL LIFE usage!
EG. opening office test file, opening a website, starting opera, finding a string, tom tom starting, java speed....
Real life usage tests are the best to compare ROM, and may be this is the only realistic way. IF you compare, using SPB benchmarks, DIAMOND overall with BLUEANGEL.... Diamond is rubbish!
sergiopi said:
It will be great if some mortscript guru will define a test suite script for windows mobile devices... based on REAL LIFE usage!
EG. opening office test file, opening a website, starting opera, finding a string, tom tom starting, java speed....
Real life usage tests are the best to compare ROM, and may be this is the only realistic way. IF you compare, using SPB benchmarks, DIAMOND overall with BLUEANGEL.... Diamond is rubbish!
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I agree with you. SPB Benchmark Main test has a section "Built-in applications",
and it can also test the following:
- Pocket Word document open
- Pocket Internet Explorer HTML load
- Pocket Internet Explorer JPEG load
- File Explorer large folder list
The only problem which may appear is when tested ROM do not contain required component, for exemplar - Pocket Word.
It will take a lot of time (flashing, testing, flashing, result table building etc), but I will try to find time to test a few SPL 1.2 ROMs with mentioned method.