Need to take a radio out of a ROM - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

My radio bootloader is corrupt. If i flash a WM5 Rom with a radio, it gets to 12% and hangs, but i cant send it back with a WM6 Rom.
So how do i extract the radio out of a WM5 T-mob rom, so i can then flash it without the radio?
If i take out the radio with NBHextract, do i also remove the IPL? Can i just take nb's out and use nbhgen to recompile and flash? Doesnt need to add up to a certain size?

You may find THIS THREAD useful then. Download link in the last post. If you do not know how to use it from looking at it, read the wiki.
The thing you muswt know is that the radio MUST be an nbh file to flash. From there, you need to figure it out by reading so that you understand what you are doing.
Good luck.

Back to a WM5 Rom with t-mob splash screens. Just about to take my bootloader back to 1.06 and then it should be good to go. Thanks Todd.

Radio success?
Out of the blue my GSM stopped working...after doing enough research and loading of ROMs I found out that I can not install a radio rom & when I tried using the combo WM6 w/radio 1.48, i froze at 12% which I bet money is where the Radio ROM comes in!
So I'm wondering if you had success with NBHExtraxt. I'm gonna catch some sleep but will work on this soon! I'm excited to know that I've narrowed it down to the Radio ROM...now to get the HERMES 200 to accept an NBH will be my new challenge!
Any advice you can give is MORE than welcomed!
Cheers & Happy Holidays

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Upgrad Vario II Radio ROM with Cinglar ROM image.

i could hack Radio rom from Cinglar,and make Flashable file.
2 of them,,Version 1.10 and 1.16 were tested on my VarioII.
i tried to upload them onto xda-FTP many times but fialed.
so i uploaded to my FTP for you guys.
instruction of upgrade also there.
Please got to get them if you interested in.
http://asukal.net/blog/2006/09/radio_upgrade_hermes_form_cing.html
Good luck
Asukaly yours!
WTF! This is _VERY_ good news!! :shock:
How did you manage to cook the type 2 radio rom??
Is Ma_Upgrade_NoID working with the hermes bootloader?? AFAIK the bootloader lacks wdata command... (replaced by 'wdatah')
Is it that you need only rwdata but not wdata to flash radio?
An explanation of the process to create the working nbf out of the extracted .nb files would be very useful!
Thanks!!
EDIT: I uploaded the files to xda-dev FTP and make a new wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Thanks for the new Radio update. Just updated my MDA Vario II. Will test if there's any improvements!
Seems to work like a charm!
ROM 1.18.255.3
ROM date: 07/22/06
Protocol version: 32.53.7018.01H
Ext ROM 1.18.255.106
Radio 1.16.00.00
And my Bootloader remains at V1.04 :!:
(I'd have pasted a bitmap, but I couldn't figure out how!).
Major kudos to Asukal!!!!!!!
Now if we could only find a new TyTN System ROM to go along with this spiffy new radio...
super Asukal, great news!!!
about the screen alignment problem, if you have some free time, could you please translate whats is the problem and how they do to fix the screen alignment problem please
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-86.html
thanks you so much Asukal!
I am receiving country id error : 120 while attempting to upgrade the radio from Cingular 1.31 ( radio 1.13). Even when i ran the upgrade second time device seems to go into radio update screen but just sits there and doing nothing.
then the radio updare error comes up. following the soft reset I have checked device information and radio version is still: 1.13
device is HTC TyTN, originally shipped with Italian ROM.
any ideas?
@superduper: I guess you need a 1.04 bootloader to perform the radio only rom upgrade from Asukal, but your current rom has bootloader 1.06
Let's see if anyone else with Cingular 1.31 rom can do the radio only upgrade or has the same problem you reported...
@Asukal: please give us details on how you did to extract the "radio_.nbf" from shipped Hermimg Cingular NBH file
this is super excellent. Now all we need is a rom image update then we can make our own aku 3.2 version.
Good job Asukal.
vua777 said:
super Asukal, great news!!!
about the screen alignment problem, if you have some free time, could you please translate whats is the problem and how they do to fix the screen alignment problem please
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-86.html
thanks you so much Asukal!
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he did ...pls see a picture
Summary to extract and convert nbh, pls wait a while.
i will make report after finish all my project of this,
now i am trying to flash Only Splash, and only OS, only Extrom separately.
PLS patient!
and thanks report guys!.
if no_id_upgrade can not work on Bootloader 1.06,
can u try with Hermes Upgrade.exe with this nbf?
(you must remove nbh before that, i didnt try that so i am not sure it work or not) :?
thanks a lot Asukal!!!
no luck. file open error : 240 :?
Asukal said:
if no_id_upgrade can not work on Bootloader 1.06,
can u try with Hermes Upgrade.exe with this nbf?
(you must remove nbh before that, i didnt try that so i am not sure it work or not) :?
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Is it any better?
So, a question for those of you who've done the upgrade - does it make any difference you can notice? Just wondering if it's worth doing the upgrade at the moment, or waiting for new HTC rom when it finally appears.
Tried this on a Orange M3100 with the 1.31 Cingular ROM, but it doesn work. Just sites at 0% and then you eventually get an error. Seems like you need bootloader 1.04 for this to work...
are there any improvements using these new radio roms? also, what's the difference between 1.10 and 1.16?
thanks
I wasn't having any radio problems previously, and so far, I haven't seen any issues with 1.16, either.
Bluetooth works fine, UMTS/GSM calls work fine, WLAN works fine, and UMTS data works fine...
If I see any strange behaviors, I'll be sure to point them out...
Asukal said:
Summary to extract and convert nbh, pls wait a while.
i will make report after finish all my project of this,
now i am trying to flash Only Splash, and only OS, only Extrom separately.
PLS patient!
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Aaaaghhh! I can't wait
Please tell me if this process is correct to create the radio_.nbf:
Code:
nbh2dbh.pl HERMIMG.nbh HERMIMG.dbh
dbhdecode.pl HERMIMG.dbh
alpinenbfdecode.pl -e ./GSM.nb radio_.nbf
My radio_.nbf and yours differ, is it because of headers?
Thanks!
Just tried the procedure on mine.
Hardware = Dopod 838Pro
ROM = imate
Upgraded to radio version 1.16, the procedure worked fine! Except that after the flashing was complete the PC displayed "upgrade failed" but after a soft reset of the PDA, it worked.
You did a great job, Asukal!!!
I can see some improvement that I can see more wireless bar on my title bar after I upgrade radio ROM.
Thsi is cingular ROM, so I don't know somebody who lives outside US can see this improvement, but I can see it in my rural US state.
In addition, as you said, I can see OS runs smoothly than my original ROM.
I was usually stuck when I run "menu" or "button" applet in control panet. But after I upgrade to Radio 1.16, I don't have it.
I don't know why, but it is real.
I appreciate your effot!!
works great, thanks..
guys who can not flash Radio
One of my friends try to flash 1.16.and faild in that.
But could flash 1.11.
then tried 1.16 again, finally he could flash 1.16.
Please try this step.<this is not to guarantee can do, just a possibility>
And i will prepare 1.13 also soon.

My Downgrade plan. Looking for input from the pros

What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
take the .nbh form the 1.34 cingular package and use RUU to flash the device.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
This has been covered before...
But, since you're well on your way to brick-ville, I'll buy your phone off you for, say, $100? It'll be worth less after you brick it...
Read up on the W*I*K*I and Oli's 1.40.Olipro bootloader before you do something dumb.
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
spicer said:
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
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From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
---New plan
What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
Flash to hardSPL-v6
Fash Radio to 1.16
flash OS i get out of the 1.134 package. (the os.nb file i believe it is named)
last flash the boot loader.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
LegolasTheElf said:
From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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I really appreciate the feedback. At least you're letting me know my plan wont work. Which will prevent me from trying it. But it would be kick ass if you could be more specific about what in the wiki i missed like :
-you can't flash the entire .nbh file cause it will try to replace your boot load and break it.
or
- Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL because *something useful here*
Either way I'm still thankful cause I know my plan is a **** sandwich.
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
Thank MAn!!! That kicks ass.
I need to send my phone back because the radio dies every 5 mintes.
So I want to get it as close to factory as possible.
So after I downgrade the BL i won't be doing anymore flashing to that phone.
Sometimes when I soft reset the phone is says "No GSM" even when sim is there. Soft reset it again and the radio is detected.
Very irritating.
Check out:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
F-ya! That last part about down grading the BL is the part I was having trouble pinning down.
One last question:
Can I use the cingular NBH or will it try to flash the RBL and crash because you can't down grade the RBL
the the new mrvanx page is dope. found the donwgrade guide.
Bricked using this method
pof said:
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
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Pof,
I did it this way but after flashing the radio rom I get no GSM and then I'm stuck in the Windows Mobile Screen.
I have looked in the Wiki but how can I actually unbrick?
My SPL is still 1.40 Oli. But I can't get activesync to work.
Should I flash the new radio via SD card or any other way (mtty?)
I would be very gratefull for any help,
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. Found a solution; http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
I will try to do this trick.
Thanks
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
pof said:
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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Pof,
One question, Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
Or otherwise?
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
hellejoep said:
Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
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no
hellejoep said:
How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
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Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
pof said:
Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
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Done that but then I get a Error 260.....
Any suggestions?
Or is there a way to bypass this? I have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.40 Olipro.
I now got a Connection Error 264 but the bootloader gives usb and I can reach the hermes bij MTTY.exe.....
What is going wrong?
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
pof said:
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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It worked, cheers!!!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
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@LegolasTheElf,
This was great example on how to get people to read the wiki. I like your approach and I will try to use it in the future.

How to remove SPL/IPL from an official ROM?

I installed Olipro Hard SPL and am now able to try any wm6 ROM without SPL.
After having tried many of them, I would like to downgrade and try the last Qtek shipped ROM for wizard: QT_FR_9100_2170706_21707106_20710_180406.
But no matter how I try, I'm now unable to install that wm5 ROM.
Even my former SPV M3000 shipped ROM refuse to re-install.
I guess it's either a problem of RUU, or more probably a problem of SPL on those ROM.
I'd like to remove their SPL, but I don't know how to do.
Any tutorial, advice, or special no ID RUU that fits well those wm5 ROM?
The actual problem with this Rom is the RUU.
It won't let you downgrade.
However it is wise to get rid of the IPL/SPL, for safety and for keeping the hard SPL.
You can use typho5.exe to disassemble the ROM in parts, and use nbftool to re-assemble it without using the IPL/SPL.
They are available in the ROM kitchens.
Use the ruu in the hard spl thread for flashing.
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
riri22 said:
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
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If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
the-equinoxe said:
If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
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Hi Equinox, thanks for the reply.
I started trying to get typho working, but all I could see was a brief command prompt and nothing else.
Finally, I ended up using Molski DevPack, which already includes those tools, in quite an ergonomic way.
After finding a guide about using those tools, It took me, no kidding about 10 mn for the whole process and 5 more to do the flashing.
I used nb2nbf_wizard to reassemble the ROM with only the parts I wanted to keep, including the extended ROM.
Regarding the address, it did it automatically, except for the HTC logo that I did manually, and also for the name of the Extended and Logo I renamed according to the sample jpeg showing that soft in action.
Since I kept the extended ROM and the original splash and logo screen, and I now have an authentic Qtek Wizard, just for fun.
But the most important is the feeling of building one's own ROM, according to your own taste and choice. Wonderful.
You were right: after having removed SPL/IPL and rebuilt the ROM, the Mun RUU worked flawlessly to flash my so called Qtek ROM onto my wizard.
In the meantime, It got rid of the pile of miscellanous splash screens and logos that were left since the install of all previous wm6 ROM.
Thanks again for the tips.
P.S.: the guide I used to understand how to use the Molski DevPack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320910&highlight=RUU_2001
Can't update rom anymore
Info about phone
WIZA200
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.olip
GSM 02.19.11
OS 6.0.0.0
TNT_5.0_Wizard_TouchFLO
Windows XP
Active Sync 4.5 (Works Fine)
When i try to install another ROM i get communication error[224] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING
When i try to install Cert_SPCS.cab or EnableRapi.cab or TomTom i get installation of xxxx.cab was unsuccessful.
Please help

G4 - Soft SPL and flash

Hi All
Been reading the forums for a while and feel ready to take the plunge and try a wm6 upgrade.
From what ive read i can use softspl to temp cid unlock long enough to flash my phone.
this leaves me with a few of questions i couldnt find answers to.
It says extrom is untouched, so does that mean if i flashed a wm6 rom on startup it would go and install all the tmobile auto customisation stuff like when i hard reset its current (original) wm5 rom.
also i have used lokiwiz to sim unlock which worked great. Will this need re-doing?
should i want to go back to stock wm5 rom, would i need to soft spl again then run the tmobile rom thats downloadable from their website?
and lastly.
What would people recommend for a standard ish rom. Need all the basics, ie phone and keyboard transcriber etc but there are so many roms im not sure which to go for. Are most g4 safe now?
any help would be great thanks..
Ben
yes, most of the ROM are G4 safe but to be safer use WST and check the nk.nbf to see what files are in it
also most of the chefs apply a different technique regarding customization that doesn't use extended rom. You see the same message and apps installing but it's not running from ext_rom. You can, however run the ext rom customizations by browsing it and run the autorun.exe file.
to go back to your stock ROM you don't need to run sSPL again because the CID you have is the same as the stock ROM and the bootloader accepts it just fine
check the TNT series by its right, you won't be disappointed.
cheers
thanks
do i need to flash the radio rom too? i hear people talk about these a lot, the one thats running on my phone now gives me good reception
funy said:
thanks
do i need to flash the radio rom too? i hear people talk about these a lot, the one thats running on my phone now gives me good reception
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Stick to the Radio Rom from original ROM.
This way you keep the optimal performance you are used to.
Most WM6 ROMs are without radio ROM anyways.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS.
Please don't forget to donate the CID key to Mestrini.
He is still working solving the datacrashes error.

Combine rom and radio into a single flash.

Normally I can find stuff I am looking for by searching, so let me start off by saying I did search, but had no luck.
What if I want to combine a radio and rom into a single NBH file. i.e. like the carriers do with their rom updates. Is there a tool that will combine them?
Also is there any way go to get it to include the SPL too? I would assume not since you can't flash the radio or rom until the SPL has been updated.
But if I could combine the radio and rom into a single flash, it would save me a little work when I update a new phone.
If anyone knows of a tool, I would appreciate it. I'm sure DCD knew the answer, to bad GC banned him......
BTC
There is a NBH builder for the titan and you can build the NB files into an NBH file such as the radio, splash screens, and a couple other things.
Why the hell did DCD get banned?
abuttino said:
Why the hell did DCD get banned?
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read the sticky...we're not suppose to discuss this issue until it's solved.

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