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First of all, great site. Congratulations to all those involved with and to those who contribute to it.
I've owned this lill' gem for a week now and wow. I love gadgets!!
BUT...
SMS - I've checked out a Arabic/English site http://www.ppc4arab.com/~unclef/sendsms/index.html
claiming to count your charactors as you type away. Has anyone used this software or downloaded it OR can suggest a better program?? AND if I do decide to get it, find it's garbage, can I get the original software back?
Cell site - Is there a download for finding what cell site you're currently conected to? My skanky ole Nokia 3310 comes with this facility and it would make my calender year if this feature could appear on my "today" screen.
Don't be too hard on me. As I said I've owned the Qtec 1010 for a week and this is my first posting. Any advice would great.
I have the O2 XDA ii and was wondering if the Second Edition of windows mobile 2003 is available yet? I see on Microsofts developer site all the tools are available for it, so i'm presumming its now available. I'm desperate for the different screen orientations.
Thanks
Dave
Hmmm, given O2's past performance, expect to see it sometime around November.
It's always bugged me that O2 think the XDA is a mobile phone, and that they have to test everything to make it fit for the dumb consumer market. A good 50% of XDA owners are very tech savvy, and probably involved in the IT industry, if not developers. Just look at this site - so where's the consumer equivalent, with 20-30 new topics every day with titles like 'how can I get my O2 Active menu to show pictures of kittens?'
Personally I wish O2 would treat their 'developer' SourceO2 site as a proper technical resource, offering low level documentation and potentially unstable new software to the tech community at their own risk. But it's not going to happen. In fact, I've just tried to log on, and the site's got a server side bug. Bet nobody notices until Wednesday. Thank heavens we at least have this site.
you said it. O2 in Ireland is a joke. The only reason I ended up on it in the first place was to get my hands on the XDA II. Soon as my contract expires, I will port over to vodafone (although, in honesty, they are not much better).
Maybe the option is to install a firmware update from another XDA II that is WM2003 SE and modify the rom? Which brings up the question, what could be used to cook the rom from another provider, and replace the settings with the ones I need for O2 (if anything exists yet). i notice there are plenty of cookers etc for the XDA, but haven't noticed anything for the XDA II, but then again, I could just be being dumb as although I have been developing for 20+ years now, I am new to the world of XDA II so forgiveness is asked if i'm asking the obvious or downright stupid
Regards
Dave
I just got word from O2 support that WM2003 SE for XDA II is planned to be shipped sometime Q4 this year. Based on past performance - I'd say December 2004. :x
I just got word from O2 support that WM2003 SE for XDA II is planned to be shipped sometime Q4 this year. Based on past performance - I'd say December 2004.
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Sounds about right for 02 :evil:
as a follow upo to
Which brings up the question, what could be used to cook the rom from another provider, and replace the settings with the ones I need for O2 (if anything exists yet). i notice there are plenty of cookers etc for the XDA, but haven't noticed anything for the XDA II, but then again, I could just be being dumb as although I have been developing for 20+ years now, I am new to the world of XDA II so forgiveness is asked if i'm asking the obvious or downright stupid
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I have modified ms_.nbf and added new startup logos, and uploaded it to the phone using HimaUpgradeUt.exe.
If I just send that rom alone to the phone, the phone will lock at the serial / usb v1.03 screen, so I have to send all the images up, which is a pain. Once I have done this, and restart, the phone displays my new boot images.
The problem is, is that there is some config files in 02's cabs that overwrite by boot images again, so next reboot and the phone ends up back as it was. I know there are programs such as XDA2_boot_image_changer_by_akira to do the job, but I need to write this into rom.
Any suggestions welcome
Herewith an email I have just received from the HTC Europe.
"Hello
HTC Europe are releasing a ROM update for the HTC TyTN (expected release date end of January 2007).
The ROM will be posted in the support section of the HTC Europe website.
This ROM update resolves all known issues with the HTC TyTN."
Yours sincerely
Dan Mackie
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
Man this is good news and we will at last know in which direction HTC is moving. Just patching problems with the existing software or patches and real development. It's the moment of truth!
Roll on end January.
I believe that the upgrade will be AKU 3.? and that "WM5 second edition" will form the nucleus of this upgrade.
It looks like Microsoft is comming to the party!
Cant wait for end-Jan now ...
This ROM update resolves all known issues with the HTC TyTN."
>"This ROM update resolves all known issues with the HTC TyTN."
thats fantastic news!
Awesome news! looking forward to it...... fix voicemail dismiss issue? please??
is this aku 3.0?? or just another aku 2.3??
edit: after test it is the same thant the latest rom htc, sorry
Sounds good, really looking forward ta having many of the bugs fixed on my Tytn.
does HTC Europe mean HTC the corporation is going to release the updates to all carriers or just European carriers?
Have to wait and see. I'm sceptical about HTC these days. My tytn doesn't work like it should be and like i want it.
Did send two mails to HTC and received one back. One mail was redirected to my local distributor and was also waiting and disappointed about HTC for ROM updates.
My other mail was send directly to HTC and nada responce. shame on you HTC.
Have my device for more then five months and now they are releasing out of the blue a ROM update, gonna be a update of disappointment. It doesn't gonna fix that much. ( !!! bluetooth > carkits!! and speed !!!).
Let's hope.
Dear [email protected] , you're fired!
In a company "promishing" is "fried air selling" as we say in Italy.
You will buy "fried air"? Yes, when it will be available, practically NEVER
In the management schools they suggest, when you want to talk about future, to say a deadline of your statement. If you want to make marketing campaign use "rumors", on-line "stolen" (not really) ROM test.
This is IMO another example of joung (and confused) company growing up too fast for his management.
So I suggest to believe to this "end of the month fix", with ALL KNOWN ISSUES FIXED when we will see it flashed in our phones; if you search in this forum we are full of "next month" upgrade.
Latins... are always valuable "spes, ultima Dea..." means "Hope is the last God remaining at our side". So the lesson learned from this HTC customer care could be... the TyTans are defeated but Spes (Hope) is still with us. Hey HTC, do you know that Hermes is the God of the robbers?
:Mode Happy new year ON:
Also Hermes tortured TyTan (owners?); Zeus (HTC) sends Hermes to confront the enchained Titan (Our phone)Prometheus about a prophecy of the Titan's (owners) that Zeus (HTC) would be overthrown (From Nokia? From Motorola?). Hermes scolds Prometheus for being unreasonable and willing to endure torture, but Prometheus refuses to give him details about the prophecy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes )
I've understood at least wy they called HERMES the TyTn, it was a prophecy, we will be tortured!
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does HTC Europe mean HTC the corporation is going to release the updates to all carriers or just European carriers?
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As I was in contact with them about issues on my TyTn, I believe this will be an update from HTC for their TyTn branded phone. I guess the other operators will follow with their own ROM updates, based on this one. ?????
We will have to wait and see what AKU version will be used but I predict it will be 2.6 - but hey maybe we get lucky! I doubt if the ROM will be much different to the one released in the RSA. Bootloader 1.9!
I still think their service is poor as HTC has taken more than 6 months to notify us of an update, knowing that their phone was buggy.
On service alone they should not have had the TyTN named "Phone of the year - 2006" ( Check htc.com website)
I think you're shooting too low with your AKU prediction. I'm going on record as predicting it'll be at least AKU 3.2... My rational is that to "fix all bugs" will require a massive BT stack improvement. M$ didnt' release these improvements until AKU 3.0
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As I was in contact with them about issues on my TyTn, I believe this will be an update from HTC for their TyTn branded phone. I guess the other operators will follow with their own ROM updates, based on this one. ?????
We will have to wait and see what AKU version will be used but I predict it will be 2.6 - but hey maybe we get lucky! I doubt if the ROM will be much different to the one released in the RSA. Bootloader 1.9!
I still think their service is poor as HTC has taken more than 6 months to notify us of an update, knowing that their phone was buggy.
On service alone they should not have had the TyTN named "Phone of the year - 2006" ( Check htc.com website)
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I think they could made a bigger effort than a 2.6 AKU, and may be they will, having a look to the only frightening number for a CEO: revenue trends!
Look here: http://www.htc.com/investor_service/04-investor-1.htm
They have this year many different devices compared with 2005, they have a new strategy (HTC directly involved instead of I-Mate, QTEK) and november revenues, compared to last year revenues....
I hope today is happening what I was hoping: they will listen the stakeholders (we) only when the shareholders (they have Nokia phones ) will notice some warning from analysts.
At that time we will have our 3.2 AKU for TyTn, or may be we will have even Crossbow (not as a gift I'm afraid)
When was the last time anyone ever "fixed all bugs"? And whenever they do fix the bugs, when have they not create newer ones?
Don't you guys know the difference between "all" and "all known"? For instance, when I mailed them with hang after wake up issue, they answered, they are not aware of this problem, that all works good in their tests (="we still don't know about this problem")!
bogus or not
it's a hell of a news..after 6 months...
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Don't you guys know the difference between "all" and "all known"? For instance, when I mailed them with hang after wake up issue, they answered, they are not aware of this problem, that all works good in their tests (="we still don't know about this problem")!
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Sure I know the difference. But since when do software developers exaggerate their deliverables? If they say all, they mean all. LOL
I don't know what you're talking about perlmane, my software doesn't have bugs. It exhibits "undocumented features"
Think of them as little suprise gifts that push you over the edge one day causing you to upgrade!
Hey, may be we are the poor cousins having the hermes (no caps lock on h). In this forum there are guys having some other Hermes (with caps lock). I believe it should be another model, because they wrote messages informing us that they HAVEN'T any hangup or sofware "undocumented features"
I called the the Hermes customer service but there was an aswering machine
Here is the link... http://www.fugly.com/audio/504/1_Alzheimer_Answering_Machine.html
Well, after the last email i sent to dopod about a newer firmware i posted here, i sent another one, as theres obviously AKU3.3 updates from HTC themselves.
Dear Michael,
The 838pro ROM code is AKU2.3
I checked our schedule again for you and nothing has changed since your last email . There would not be any new ROM update in future for the Dopod 838 Pro.
If you want an updated unit, we suggest buying the newer Dopod 810. I appreciate that the Dopod 838 Pro is our current top PDA, however, we feel no update is needed. If your not happy with not having WPA2, i suggest more care in selecting a PDA next time.
Thanks.
Kind regards,
ANZ Service
Dopod International (Australia New Zealand) Pty Ltd
ABN 48 119 011 639
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Be rest assured, the "CARE" i take next time, will be NEVER to buy, or recommend a Dopod to anyone ever again. Considering they are trying very hard to break into the Australian market, they've done an appaling job at winning customers with crap service like this.
And no offence but its clear they don't care and are employing monkeys with there "engirsh"
8one pissed off Dopod owner8
Gosh That's really bad news...
I will also Inform and Definately NOT recommend to any of me friends/forums on DoPoD Devices (YuCK!)
or you can politely make it known to them that we've a aku 3.3 update for hermes here so they can just put a note in their future sales boxes to inform customers to come here to update a software that they are too lazy to do
:LooooooooooooooooooooL: m8!!
They surely are lazy!
that is fu**n s**t of Dopod as im using a Dopod 838 Pro.... as i stuffed by radio when trying to unlock the CID im now stuck to Dopod... might just have to go and buy the IMEI-CHECK unlocker....
Ahh wells.. At least they are the OEM distributor for HTC. We still can get nice updates.
Thats the bit about it all i don't understand.
HTC own Dopod now. There supposed to be HTC's break into Asia pacific etc.
Even though HTC release newer, needed ROM's, dopod's answer to that is essentially "Go F**k yourself, we want more money from you, so to upgrade buy another PDA"
Rest assured, when i buy a new PDA, especially in Oz, it won't ever be a Dopod thats for sure.
If your not happy with not having WPA2, i suggest more care in selecting a PDA next time.
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Someone interacting with customers and talking like that will soon find out that this can be "career limiting experience".
What is the email for the support or the person you contacted?
I reckon if enough of us ask about it they might respond
Cheers
If they're owned by HTC, I'd forward that onto them. It is not good customer service to respond like that. A
nyway the problem is that when you are buying a device finding information in that much detail is very hard and it is completely capable of WPA2 and you would assume a market leading device would be capable of that.
-wireless- said:
What is the email for the support or the person you contacted?
I reckon if enough of us ask about it they might respond
Cheers
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[email protected]
I've fowarded onto HTC. Lets see what they have to say about how there new retail arm treats HTC's new market and potential customers.
Seriously, i can handle them not doing an update (although that in itself is poor customer after sales support, basically buy the unit then we don't give a f**k about you) but the complete lack of respect for me and their own company pisses me off.
Oh well, how ever much i actually love the device, another dopod product will never grace my hands again, thats for sure.
yeah, dopod service sucks in this part of the world. you should pray that the device has no issue. i have a loose stylus issue and would rather not send it in for servicing
I appreciate that the Dopod 838 Pro is our current top PDA [...] i suggest more care in selecting a PDA next time.
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what a tool!
Some people really dont understand how to treat their customers. There are hundreds of better ways he could have gotten his point accross without being rude, and contradicting himself.
Hi, first post here.
I have owned numerous PDA's over the last 5yrs or so and cannot remember any of them getting an upgrade for the firmware. There have been various updates to fix minor bugs but usually if you wanted a newer OS then you replaced the PDA. HTC and Dopod arent doing anything different than any other manufacturer. I dont like it either but can see that if they released a new OS for the product then no-one would buy the newest kit.
It stinks but thats how it is
Umm, clearly you are very mistaken.
PDA's have had continuos updates for bug fixes etc for a long time. The Hermes has bugs that need to be resolved.
AKU3.3 is NOT a new OS. Its WIN CE 5 still, just with latest patches. Nearly all other manufacturers release updates. I don't care what happened 5 years ago, then industry and its problems then are nothing like they are today.
Its perfectly acceptable to expect a third party producer of a product, that the main manufacturer has released updates for, to get of their own lazy arses and customise that update for them.
What your saying, is its perfectly fine to release unfinished, bug ridden hardware/software and then the consumer should just pay for a whole new unit on a hope that that one isn't as bad.
Or, would you expect a simple update that they have to do very little work to customise to be released when its spoon fed to them.
Tell you what, buy a car from me, i won't include wheels with it. Everythign will work, but it will be usesless to you. You'd expect me to supply some simple wheels, but i will palm you off with bad service, **** english and tell you you should buy the newer, better car as that has wheels.
Um, clearly in my post i stated:
There have been various updates to fix minor bugs but usually if you wanted a newer OS then you replaced the PDA. If this is a MINOR update then I stand to be corrected.
You can keep your car by the way
No its not minor, its probably in the same capacity as SP2 was for XP.
However, nonetheless, it is an update thats needed to make the devices function as they are supposed to.
The update has been released by HTC to carriers. Dopod, are simply to tight and lazy to do anything, and beleive it acceptable to shaft its customers, rather than what some of the better carriers are doing (HTC direct, AT&T etc) and releasing an update thats much needed.
Im not asking for them to update to Crossbow for free. Im asking them to release a standard upgrade, to help their device they released to function properly.
you just got the standard Customer Support bugger-off-with-with-new-rom-inquiries reply, it's not up to him to know whether it will be available or not..
Hello all,
Spoke with a few people today from UTStarcom and Verizon and got quite a bit of information about this long awaited update. Figured I'd share with you.
Called UTStarcom and spoke with Orlando, an engineer with them. He forwarded an internal memo to me (I can't post it on here, don't bother asking). I can tell you what was in it though.
The update is complete and was received by Verizon mid June.
Rom version number is 3.36.605.0. I know a lot of you are going to say "but we already have 3.56 blah blah", but those are Sprint updates and just because the version number is different, doesn't mean it's not newer.
The update addresses the following (straight from the memo):
-Update to Windows Mobile 6.1
-Update to EVDO Rev. A
-Update location based services (GPS)
-Update bluetooth profiles
Update is complete on their end, waiting on Verizon to give the go ahead. He said he would speak to his superiors and find more info and for me to call back Thursday (he gave me his extension).
I called Verizon and spoke to Wes, a WDTS Tier 3 Tech.
He confirmed what Orlando told me. The completed update was received by Verizon and has been in final testing. The last update he had was July 3, been in testing for a while with no problems. Projected release set for end of the month/early August.
He also told me it's been so long due to the fact that they decided to add WM 6.1 (previously it was only expected to address EVDO Rev A / GPS)
Fugg yes!
Now, does this potentially include aGPS? Will we get the lock times of Sprint? Any other potential goodies that could be included? Lastly, what will DCD be looking to extract to improve in his ROMs?
Dude, you rule.
Can't wait...
Now I have to check the vzw or utstar sites every day!
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Now I have to check the vzw or utstar sites every day!
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Where would you look on Utstarcom if it were there? I know it is not yet but I can't even find anything close except this and it is a dead link here.
Link please...
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Where would you look on Utstarcom if it were there? I know it is not yet but I can't even find anything close except this and it is a dead link here.
Link please...
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Perhaps... here???
http://handsets.utstar.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6800
Idk though, they didn't update the sprint one yet
Excellent news GC - hopefully it might add some more functionality to the GPS, although with your fix, it seems to work really well now!
Thanks for the info!
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Perhaps... here???
http://handsets.utstar.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6800
Idk though, they didn't update the sprint one yet
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Thanks, this is great. I am sure GC or DCD will have this dissected well before it hits Slorizon's website (or the UTStarcom one you posted), but it is exciting none the less.
I'll be sure NOT to hold my breath waiting on their release
So...did you happen to ask him about what it would take for an "Accidental" leak of the beta? Because I am sure a few of us would drop some money into an unknown Paypal account if such a thing were to happon.
OK... so I'm not trying to be a bad news guy, but I pretty much got the exact same story from UTStarcom back in April, but the release date was May.
When I called in May they said it was release to VZW and was up to them to do something with it. I never was able to get anyone at VZW to admit they had the update (in fact some really bad Help guy yesterday told me that a) any updates would come from the mantufacturer and not VZW, and b) anything, and I mean ANY application you add to the PPC is bad for it and will cause it to slow down. (He was a real piece of work, and when I asked what about things like Microsoft's Live Search which was MADE by MS for this type of phone, he said ANYTHING would basically bog it down and if it stopped VZW would not replace it... schmuck).
Anyway... the UTSarcom site is a good one... but where might we search for Verizon updates???
I am surprised anyone told you anything except "let me check another system....no, I don't see anything here....you may want to keep checking the website if they ever have updates for the phone," schmucks for real. Speaking to higher tier techs is probably more realistic information as they will be seeing memos that other people will not.
Anyways, here is the XV6800 page on vzw:
http://support.vzw.com/phones/index.html?p=3411
OK... so I'm not trying to be a bad news guy, but I pretty much got the exact same story from UTStarcom back in April, but the release date was May.
When I called in May they said it was release to VZW and was up to them to do something with it. I never was able to get anyone at VZW to admit they had the update (in fact some really bad Help guy yesterday told me that a) any updates would come from the mantufacturer and not VZW, and b) anything, and I mean ANY application you add to the PPC is bad for it and will cause it to slow down. (He was a real piece of work, and when I asked what about things like Microsoft's Live Search which was MADE by MS for this type of phone, he said ANYTHING would basically bog it down and if it stopped VZW would not replace it... schmuck).
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If you read my post you'd see that I asked about what you're referring to. The "release date" for May was for EVDO Rev A & GPS. They decided to add WM 6.1 at the last minute, which prolonged it. The difference is, you never got anyone from Verizon to admit to it, while I have spoken to several people since May who all have confirmed it.
You guys have to trust that I know what I'm doing....this hasn't been my first time calling and I know what to ask. They pretty much know me by name now when I call lol. In fact, I don't hang up until I speak with someone who knows what they're talking about.
As far as the update itself goes, it will be on HTC's site when it's available, not UTStarcom's or Verizon's.
OK thanks... I had been to that page many times before, but didn't know that they might post anything like a ROM update there.
We'll see....
And yes, senior techs are probably better... just didn't have the time to wait yesterday.
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As far as the update itself goes, it will be on HTC's site when it's available, not UTStarcom's or Verizon's.
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Do you have a link for where you would look for this upgrade on HTC.com? I know you and DCD will be releasing ROMs before I find it but curiosity reigns supreme.
This is what I found but I don't think this is anything more than a marketing page:
http://tytnseries.htc.com/htctytn.html
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/support-product.html
It will be posted on this site under the appropriate phone. Since there have not been any updates for VZW you won't find the xv6800. Correct me if I am wrong GC.
Do you have a link for where you would look for this upgrade on HTC.com? I know you and DCD will be releasing ROMs before I find it but curiosity reigns supreme.
This is what I found but I don't think this is anything more than a marketing page:
http://tytnseries.htc.com/htctytn.html
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First, that link is for the TyTN, not the Titan. 2 Different phones. The TyTN is actually the HTC Hermes, as the TyTN II is the HTC Kaiser.
Second, when it's available you'll be able to find it here:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=82&act=faq&cat=268
except when it's released, there'll be an icon next to "Tips & Tricks" called "Software Download" similar to the Sprint Mogul page located here http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=75&act=faq&cat=268
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First, that link is for the TyTN, not the Titan. 2 Different phones. The TyTN is actually the HTC Hermes, as the TyTN II is the HTC Kaiser.
Second, when it's available you'll be able to find it here:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=82&act=faq&cat=268
except when it's released, there'll be an icon next to "Tips & Tricks" called "Software Download" similar to the Sprint Mogul page located here http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=75&act=faq&cat=268
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Thanks, thats the link I was looking for. You are one resourceful dude GC.
Do you work in the phone industry?
Do you work in the phone industry?
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Nope. Computer Engineer specialized in Embedded Systems Design
Sweet
Maybe this seems a bit off subject, but why would a company with proprietary information share there potential release dates and internal memos with a guy that calls in a lot for tech support?
Hope that doesnt sound rude, its more me just being inquisitive. Essentially, how do you manage to be seen as someone worth sharing that information with?