I have upgraded my 838pro to IPL - 1.04, SPL- 2.10 Olipro , Radio 1.43.00.00, OS is Black Majik .
Is it possible to upgrade from officially released wm06 rom from dopod (when its released), will it work, or give me problems.
I am newbie to upgrades. so i dont know technical things like hardspl etc.
Thanks
Pramod Naidu
Yes it is possible, but your SPL will be overwriten..
If you want to keep HardSPL, you need to extract the official SPL from the official ROM so it doesn`t get flashed onto your device
Shamanix said:
Yes it is possible, but your SPL will be overwriten..
If you want to keep HardSPL, you need to extract the official SPL from the official ROM so it doesn`t get flashed onto your device
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INCORRECT sir.
HardSPL will not allow a retail SPL to flash over it.
The RUU which HTC will no doubt supply it with will probably not detect your device correctly (since you are using a superior SPL hehe).
Copy ther nbh file contained in the update to a folder and use RUUWrapper.exe which will flash it no problem (use autodetect).
One more foolish question
Is my device super CID bec of hardspl, if not, if i make my device super cid, will it give me added benefits.
viewedit said:
Is my device super CID bec of hardspl, if not, if i make my device super cid, will it give me added benefits.
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The only benefit of SuperCID is you can read/write to the ext_rom in windows mobile.....so not really a great benefit.
HardSPL reports itself as SuperCID.....but your device is NOT. Essentially your device is virtually SuperCID.
Thanks
Thanks a lot sir.
Pramod Naidu
When I have gone back from a WM6 ROM to the Official (WM5) AT&T ROM I flashed the older (1.04 I wanna say?) version of HardSPL and it works fine and gets overwritten to the 1.11. Then if I go back to WM6 I just reflash HardSPL v7 and it works fine. I'm not sure if that actually does make it official, but I know based on the startup and bootloader screens, after going to the old HardSPL then using the AT&T Updater, everything says 1.11 and looks the same as it did before I started putting cooked ROMs on my phone.
What if its exe file
how do i extract the nbh from exe file.
How to extract nbh from exe
how do i extract nbh from exe to flash it to hardspl, i dont want to downgrade my spl
Use winrar.
Right click on the file and "open with winrar"
Question?
mrvanx said:
INCORRECT sir.
HardSPL will not allow a retail SPL to flash over it.
The RUU which HTC will no doubt supply it with will probably not detect your device correctly (since you are using a superior SPL hehe).
Copy ther nbh file contained in the update to a folder and use RUUWrapper.exe which will flash it no problem (use autodetect).
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Hi mrvanx,
Just a quick question regarding your answer to Shamanix...
You said here that all he needs to do is copy the their nbh file in the update and use the RUUWrapper to flash it... Surely he needs to extract only the rom, ext rom, and radio? Then recompile to a nbh file to flash?
The original nbh file is still going to contain the spl & ipl which will cause problems not so?
Sorry if i am butting in here
Regards.
Trezona said:
Hi mrvanx,
Just a quick question regarding your answer to Shamanix...
You said here that all he needs to do is copy the their nbh file in the update and use the RUUWrapper to flash it... Surely he needs to extract only the rom, ext rom, and radio? Then recompile to a nbh file to flash?
The original nbh file is still going to contain the spl & ipl which will cause problems not so?
Sorry if i am butting in here
Regards.
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The flash will go ahead as normal but the SPL and IPL will NOT be written over.
Either that or just use the repackaged version of the official WM6 dopod ROM ive posted in the WM6 section.
mrvanx said:
The flash will go ahead as normal but the SPL and IPL will NOT be written over.
Either that or just use the repackaged version of the official WM6 dopod ROM ive posted in the WM6 section.
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Great! i understand, thanks!
Regards.
Note: I have searched through the forums looking for an answer.
I need to remove HardSPL and install the original Bootloader which I don't have a copy of, is there anyway I can extract the original boot loader from another PDA of the same model and then make a RUU of it to restore the phone to its original condition?
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Note: I have searched through the forums looking for an answer.
I need to remove HardSPL and install the original Bootloader which I don't have a copy of, is there anyway I can extract the original boot loader from another PDA of the same model and then make a RUU of it to restore the phone to its original condition?
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You have obviously searched, or else you would be asking how to remove HardSPL. Well done. In case you don't already know, since you searched, you get a freebie. www.mrvanx.org has a great guide on this.
Regarding the file, the easiest and safest way is usually to get the original shipped ROM that will contain the original SPL and extract it from the ROM. Many of these ROMs are in the wiki's Hermes > Shipped ROMs section.
You can start HERE or look directly HERE. You will notice that the table tells you what SPL is in most of the shipped ROMs, so if your ROM isn't there, just grab one that has the SPL you are looking for.
Thank you!!!!
todd_jg said:
You have obviously searched, or else you would be asking how to remove HardSPL. Well done. In case you don't already know, since you searched, you get a freebie. www.mrvanx.org has a great guide on this.
Regarding the file, the easiest and safest way is usually to get the original shipped ROM that will contain the original SPL and extract it from the ROM. Many of these ROMs are in the wiki's Hermes > Shipped ROMs section.
You can start HERE or look directly HERE. You will notice that the table tells you what SPL is in most of the shipped ROMs, so if your ROM isn't there, just grab one that has the SPL you are looking for.
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This should be made a sticky...now only if I can make Att give me a Tilt.....
Does anyone have the SPL downgrading files that mrvanx had on his website? They are currently unavailable there? Post them as an attachment and win a trip to Oz.
Hi!
I'am a noob in this stuff and my english is also not to good
I have to give my TYTN to warranty service. and I have to downgrade my SPL to original version (1.11), because I'm worried that they will not accept my warranty.
Please help me to downgrade to SPL 1.11 from HARD SPL
I've got original HTC rom 2.11 with hard SPL
I've found some instruction:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
But here is only downgrade to 1.06 or 1.04. Is it possible to downgrade to 1.11?
Thank You very much for Your help!
pbalsam said:
Hi!
I'am a noob in this stuff and my english is also not to good
I have to give my TYTN to warranty service. and I have to downgrade my SPL to original version (1.11), because I'm worried that they will not accept my warranty.
Please help me to downgrade to SPL 1.11 from HARD SPL
I've got original HTC rom 2.11 with hard SPL
I've found some instruction:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
But here is only downgrade to 1.06 or 1.04. Is it possible to downgrade to 1.11?
Thank You very much for Your help!
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Yes. It is possible and easy.
Get a copy of the SPL 1.11 and use it instead of the 1.06 or 1.04 mentioned in MrVanx's guides.
Now, assuming that the reason you wrote this is that you do not HAVE a copy of it, then I will tell you how to get it.
Download a full ROM from the wiki LOOK HERE that has many shipped ROMs (including some with SPL1.11 LIKE THIS ONE )
Use WinRAR (or equivalent) to unrar the EXE file of the ROM you just downloaded
You will get an .NBH file and an RUU file.
Use dutty's good nbh tool to decompile the .NBH file.
You will get many .NB files, including one called SPL.NB
Use dutty's good nbh tool to build an .NBH file from the SPL.NB file.
Now you have an SPL1.11 .NBH file that can be used in place of the 1.06 and 1.04 files referenced by MrVanx.
Maybe a request is in order
This seems to be a recurring post. Apparently many folks would like to go back to an older SPL version (likely for warranty reasons). How about somebody build an AT&T or better yet Cingular SPL that came shipped with the 8525s branded by Cingular. Mine ran WM5, but I haven't had any luck finding that ROM online. I suppose the warranty would be covered with WM6, but I would no doubt need the orignal SPL if I want anything covered. So I guess, all we would need is a Wrapper bundled with the .SP file that would restore the orignal SPL. We could load an original AT&T / Cingular ROM, followed by installing the SPL.
That might cut back on some of these posts asking how to...
Well, probably not, but it would be a nice sticky.
Thanks for help.
I've downloaded all the stuff. But the ROM is RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe
It's exe file and i dont know how to get Ruu...nbh file.Could You help me?
Another option, assuming you have 2.10 olipro spl now- use mrvanx guide to downgrade to 1.10 oli, then reflash factory rom from htc america site, this will also flash the bootloader to the most current, spl 1.11 worked for me....
pbalsam said:
Thanks for help.
I've downloaded all the stuff. But the ROM is RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe
It's exe file and i dont know how to get Ruu...nbh file.Could You help me?
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Use WinRAR (or equivalent) to unrar the EXE file of the ROM you just downloaded
You will get an .NBH file and an RUU file.
with the new CustomRUU, if you select the "Unsafe SSPL" you can flash any SPL you wish.
This thread is a supplement to the HardSPL thread, in the unfortunate case that you need to return your phone to Stock specifications (including Stock SPL), and the SPL that came with your phone didn't happen to be the 1.90 version included in the HardSPL thread. I've included the few that I have here, and as I come across others, I'll add them to this post. If anyone else has other versions, feel free to post them here as well.
Each zip file includes the Stock SPL nbh file ONLY. In order to restore Stock SPL, you WILL need the HardSPL package from this thread.
SPL 1.95 - Extracted from AT&T HTC FUZE Stock ROM
SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
SPL 5.08 - Extracted from AT&T HTC FUZE Test ROM
SPL 5.07 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
SPL 1.90 (from HardSPL thread) - I added this one just so they're all in the same place.
EDIT: I have tired flashing several of these to my device with no success. It appears there is more that I need to do to extract these SPLs properly. In the meantime, I recommend that you use the 1.90SPL from the HardSPL thread for your warranty purposes. If you would then like to get the stock SPL on your device, re-flashing the stock ROM should accomplish that.
Thanks
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
assassin82492 said:
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
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Before we do that, let's stop there. If you want to flash Da_G's WM6.5 ROM, you need to have HardSPL on your device. You should only be flashing a stock SPL if you are returning your phone, for warranty reasons. Can you clarify what it is you're trying to do?
Also, have you reviewed this thread, so you know how to flash your phone properly?
Thanks for compiling this. Sticky time!
Captain_Throwback said:
Before we do that, let's stop there. If you want to flash Da_G's WM6.5 ROM, you need to have HardSPL on your device. You should only be flashing a stock SPL if you are returning your phone, for warranty reasons. Can you clarify what it is you're trying to do?
Also, have you reviewed this thread, so you know how to flash your phone properly?
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Yea I have looked at that and I know about having the hard spl. I just don't know how to flash the 6.5 rom. Thanks for your concern though.
StockSPL 1.69
Here is Stock SPL 1.69 from T-Mobile Czech ROM extracted from RUU_signed.nbh with NBHextract.exe a converted with yang back to nbh by following code
Code:
yang -F SPL.nbh -f SPL.nb -t 0x200 -s 64 -d RAPH***** -c 11111111 -v 1.00.000 -l WWE
Some Moderator can move it to first post ;-)
I have HardSPL and it says version 1.90Olinex. I think my stock was SPL 1.95 but i'm not sure. I have the ATT Fuze. I'm having a problem with the G-Sensor and need to send it back for replacement. Can anyone confirm that I need to flash 1.95 for ATT or anything else? Also If I have upgraded the radio, should I downgraded it before send back for replacement or its ok?
Thanks
chukalov said:
I have HardSPL and it says version 1.90Olinex. I think my stock was SPL 1.95 but i'm not sure. I have the ATT Fuze. I'm having a problem with the G-Sensor and need to send it back for replacement. Can anyone confirm that I need to flash 1.95 for ATT or anything else? Also If I have upgraded the radio, should I downgraded it before send back for replacement or its ok?
Thanks
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When you flash the stock Fuze ROM, your radio will also be flashed. Be sure to follow the instructions in the Hard-SPL thread for returning your phone to stock specifications. When you get to the part about flashing back to Stock SPL for warranty purposes, the 1.95 SPL from the OP here is the one you should use (if you purchased your Fuze in the US after it was officially released - that's what mine came with).
Well, lucky me . I kept shaking the phone and my G-sensor works now. It was stuck on one side and would move. I think I will hold off with the return to stock for now, i really dont want to get refurb replacement.
Thanks for the reply.
assassin82492 said:
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
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Please... for your own sake and ours... please read. This has been covered many, many times... I don't want you to end up with a bricked device, and quite frankly, I don't believe this question needs to be answered yet again. Please read, I am not trying to be rude, but if you read, you won't have to ask this question.
Hey Captain,
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason the 1.95 SPL file doesn't work. The SPL remains as HardSPL. However, the Stock 1.90 SPL file provided by Onlinex does work. Any advice?
Thanks!
custommsp said:
Hey Captain,
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason the 1.95 SPL file doesn't work. The SPL remains as HardSPL. However, the Stock 1.90 SPL file provided by Onlinex does work. Any advice?
Thanks!
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I'm sure you didn't do anything wrong. I'll look into it. In the meantime, if you just re-flash the Stock ROM after flashing the 1.90 SPL, it should upgrade your SPL to 1.95 (since that's what's included with the Stock ROM). I'll try and figure out what I did wrong.
Great, I'll try it.
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Please... for your own sake and ours... please read. This has been covered many, many times... I don't want you to end up with a bricked device, and quite frankly, I don't believe this question needs to be answered yet again. Please read, I am not trying to be rude, but if you read, you won't have to ask this question.
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I couldn't find it. I asked the Captain because he already had the ROm installed and he helped a lot.
SPL extract attempts unsuccessful
I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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As you already suggested, it's probably best to flash back to the stock 1.90 SPL following Onlinex's guide after which one should just install the stock ATT Rom or the other stock roms with the latest stock SPL. This worked for me.
Thanks!
About the stock SPL, i am not sure which is mine. As i am from Asia (Malaysia) , which one should i get?
1) SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
or
2)Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
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I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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So as far as i understand, it is possible to flash 1.90 SPL to my device although it had 1.69 SPL as a default by T-Mobile!?
To your problem: shouldnt you just restore your stock Radio and stock OS before flashing stock SPL ?
arvin2212 said:
About the stock SPL, i am not sure which is mine. As i am from Asia (Malaysia) , which one should i get?
1) SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
or
2)Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
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First of all, if you need to restore your phone back to stock, as tvaril noted, you MUST first flash your stock ROM/radio. Once you do that, then you should flash the stock SPL (1.90) provided in the HardSPL thread using the method indicated there.Then, re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your stock SPL.
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So as far as i understand, it is possible to flash 1.90 SPL to my device although it had 1.69 SPL as a default by T-Mobile!?
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Yes, you should be able to flash the stock SPL 1.90 provided in the HardSPL thread, using the method indicated there, and then re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your 1.69 SPL.
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First of all, if you need to restore your phone back to stock, as tvaril noted, you MUST first flash your stock ROM/radio. Once you do that, then you should flash the stock SPL (1.90) provided in the HardSPL thread using the method indicated there.Then, re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your stock SPL.
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i believe you misunderstood his question. he's asking which SPL should he download given that he got his phone in malaysia
i believe that it should be the asia-singtel one. i'm in singapore, and that is the rom that was recently released for our devices. so my guess would be the singtel spl.