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"NO RADIO" or "NO GSM" GSM/3G module failure T-Mobile Ameo original ROM for warranty?
****** A note for those who may be in a similar situation or pondering over something similar ****
How it ended is that HTC refused to honour the warranty for the reason of "nonstandard software installed / user inflicted damage". To be perfectly honest the law is on their side on this one unfortunately.
I was charged for the repair, waiting for the unit now. :/
Conclusion - as was easy to predict is that HTC will try to use the argument of different branding to refuse warranty, so if you're using HTC branded ROM on T-Mobile branded unit - the warranty goes.
Nothing new here, just for others to have a track.
Also, for those experiencing following problems:
- No GSM, No 3G, but at the same time WiFi and GPS working
- At the boot "NO GSM", "NO RADIO" or "R NONE" displayed instead of the radio stack version, the message depends on the radio stack version
... your motherboard is 99% damaged.
It's not repairable apparently (relax, the unit is). I was charged for "M/B repair", but when the unit came back the motherboard was obviously replaced - new IMEI, physical marks gone. Compared to the price of the whole unit the repair is not that much, so don't despair, send it to them. They're very fast.
The fault is apparently rather rare, but not unknown. May be caused by misuse like leaving the power source plugged in when removing the battery or simply a manufacturing fault. If you have standard software, you will have the repair under the warranty.
Mine just died in the middle of the call for no apparent reason and as I had Olipro's SPL and other non-standard ROM on it I was charged for the repair.
The unit is back, like new, I'm happy again and hope it won't happen to any of you.
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Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find an original T-Mobile UK ROM, only HTC (different branding, etc)
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
jpiskorski said:
Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find a definite answer.
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
ltxda said:
And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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Yes, 100%.
1. It did work for 3 days with some heavy usage (phone calls, 3G for browsing for 3 hours straight for a test, GPS driving across country roads for 4 hours, boy that was fun).
2. Before it stopped working it complained about a problem with SIM. SIM is ok, other SIMs don't work either.
3. After a soft reset and all following hard resets, radio rom updates, full re-flashing still at the black screen there is that "R NONE" message. Google'ing around I've found three similar reports about Athena/U1000 and all three end up with "had to take the handset to the warranty repair, got a new one back"...
4. And finally - I left it switched off for the night with 50% battery still there at 1am. At 7:30am when switched on it had 10%. There seems to be some power drain, that makes me think something is hardware-fried.
I am really cautious about approaching T-Mobile warranty with WM6 and Olipro 1.20 SPL onboard, I can almost hear the answer and I don't like it.
Thx.
Jack
wgary said:
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
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Hi, thx for your answer, I've looked there, but there's no T-Mobile UK ROM there, only HTC.
Does anyone have an original backup ROM for T-Mobile UK?
Also - how can I make sure the Hard-SPL by Olipro is gone and all is left is Ameo as it left the factory? Is there something I have to be aware of (to take it off)?
If those questions are stupid I appologise, but I don't have much experience with Athena, I only had it for 4 days. :/
So far I was always working with ipaq's and Imate Jam. Never had to deal with warranty on those.
Thx once again.
Jack
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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Hey, that would be great. Can you upload them here? Or simply mail to [email protected]
Do you still have original WM5 on your device too by any chance?
What problems do you have with your GPS? Maybe I can help?
If your unit is bought on E-bay, you still should have the manufacturers warranty, check that on http://service.htceurope.com/Wizard.aspx
At that link you can quickly check if your unit is still covered, it should be, Ameos are not long enough on the market to expire their warranty.
Thx in advance
Jack
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
whammer said:
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
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Cheerz mate, I will try to combine this branding with HTC WM5 and see how it looks... still I'm hoping somebody will come up with full original image.
Somehow I can't believe nobody backed it up before doing upgrades. In the olden days when I was playing with Linux on iPaq's, how else could we come back? (Ohhh... the warm fuzzy feeling of a text console on the black screen on my iPaq... and nothing more. That was year 2000. )
Sounds like some real trouble you're having there with GPS... I'm afraid it's completely out of my league, maybe somebody else will have some advise.
Jack
Original Ameo ROM
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
Hard-SPL is permanent
Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
mackaby007 said:
Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
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Oh sweet... :/
Thx for clearing this up.
Did anyone have experience trying to claim warranty from HTC on the T-Mobile unit with WM6 on it? After all it's HTC's own soft, but the legal standing is that voids the warranty, so they can use it to refuse repair.
Damn it, it seems the GSM module is not repairable, all reports say about replacing the whole unit. :/
I saw some reports here about T-Mobile UK releasing WM6 official upgrade in September, I think I'll just wait until then, the soft will be official even if the SPL won't.
Will keep you all posted here about the development of all that in case some other poor sod finds himself in a similar pickle.
Damn. :/
Jack
ArnieSack said:
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
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Thx for your offer, it's really nice to find help when you need it.
Although I think I'm giving up.
I'm at the mercy of HTC Europe service anyway. In that situation I'd rather approach them honest with WM6 and the unit as it is, as it is clearly a hardware fault, if they're sensible I have half a chance there.
I need the unit badly as a GPS now anyway, so I have to wait and there's a chance T-Mob UK will release WM6. Then the situation looks even better again.
But as I cannot apparently remove Olipro's SPL, the unit shows clear signs of tampering. If I were them, I must say I would be much less understanding seeing a modified unit which then somebody tried to conceal and did it badly on top of it leaving the SPL cracked.
Or... if that's hardware problem and there's a power drain there's that outside chance the whole motherboard will go and the ROM version is not a problem anymore I guess.
I find it all a bit crazy though, I hate those legal catch 22 cases. ROM by the manufacturer, but warranty void on a 400 quid unit because of branding (warranty would be ok if I used the HTC WM6 straight on the HTC branded unit instead of Ameo).
Ok, sorry for flooding, it's just that the frustration is killing me. :/
Jack
fards said:
I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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I think you're referring to ROM version.
SPL original would be 1.00 I think and Olipro's I have now is 1.20
Jack
Ok, is it possible to get the official hd2 new rom on my virgin media hd2, im currently running 1.66. It says my serial number is invalid on the site because its a branded phone (but its not network locked). Also, does flashing a custom/new rom thats not correctly branded void warrenty? thanks.
I contacted HTC about this as I am also on Virgin and they said they don't support Virgin mobiles :S Bit off considering I got this as a contract deal from Virgin
"...bit off considering..."
of whom? htc? not really, it means virgin chose to support their own phones, rather than let htc do it, which would have cost them (virgin) more.
same with most networks, they lock the phones and handle issues themselves, and in return their purchase price is reduced.
goldcard is currently the only method to get a working 3.14 rom on our provider locked phones, gimme a cid and i'll make you one.
Thanks strange, I'm on Virgin and dont have any issues at all
I have gone back to cooked roms and have HSPL on the phone
Have you looked for a wwe serial to use instead of your own?
johnerz said:
Have you looked for a wwe serial to use instead of your own?
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not that that would be any use, because if it wont download using your serial, it wont install on a phone with that serial, unless you use hspl, which makes 3.14 roms not work.
Besides, if you are gonna use a different serial, you might as well just download it from somewhere that doesnt require a serial, , the leo stock roms thread for instance.
samsamuel said:
"...bit off considering..."
of whom? htc? not really, it means virgin chose to support their own phones, rather than let htc do it, which would have cost them (virgin) more.
same with most networks, they lock the phones and handle issues themselves, and in return their purchase price is reduced.
goldcard is currently the only method to get a working 3.14 rom on our provider locked phones, gimme a cid and i'll make you one.
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Unless Virgin have made their own ROM for us (which they obviously haven't) then it is out of order.
They shouldn't sign a deal unless they can keep phones maintained, especially buggy ones like this.
Billy the Puppet said:
They shouldn't sign a deal unless they can keep phones maintained, especially buggy ones like this.
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heh, dont get me wrong, im right behind you, god bless the capitalist way,,, everyones a winner except the consumer.
Well after speaking to Virgin tech support, they have not stopped you flashing to the latest ROM - they encourage it!!
Go figure it out
In fact I have just entered my serial number - they are Zero's not O's
and it allowed me to download and run (I aborted at the last option) so its not Virgin is it?
I also work for them and vouch for the info
Well I've just been on the HTC website to once again try to upgrade my ROM, it won't even let me download it as it says the software is unsuitable for my device.
I'm looking at putting my phone onto Windows 7, are there any tutorials on how to do this? I've never flashed this phone before.
Hey guys,
So my phone developed a strange white mark on the screen. Took it to get it fixed and finally a month later Vodafone returned a different handset to me with the latest Vodafone ROM on it as I expected.
Bottom line is I don't want the Vodafone ROM on it. Can I simply install the official HTC ROM onto the handset from their website? Is it that simple or will it totally mess up my handset?
Thanks.
Richard.
Ha, just discovered now that it is locked to Vodafone. Can I make an issue out of this with the idiots at Vodafone? HTC website won't let me download their ROMs. What can I do about this?
do a hspl and flash away.......
BIG ISSUE
If the phone you send in to repair was originally an unbranded device and they returned you a branded device. I would make a BIG (oh no a HUGE) issue out of it, they just can't do that. They have to replace it with a similar device, a branded Vodafone device isn't worth half on the second hand market because of SIM-lock.
But you cannot just install a HTC ROM, you'll have to use HSPL2 (1.66HSPL preferable) but HSPL2 can void your warranty, all tough it is reversible. With HSPL2 the Vodafone branded device will still be SIM-locked.
webpatrick this is exactly as I thought...so yesterday before looking at the posts on here I sent a very heated email to Vodafone telling them exactly as it is. This handset is worthless to me. And you are right about the branding. I bought a phone last year that was branded (I didn't know this when I got it) and I had loads of trouble trying to sell it on. I can mess with the ROMs all I want but the bottom line is that any new HTC ROMs would never install unless I HSPL2 it, so how could I sell it on to someone without telling them that it is branded? I can't.
Words cannot convey how fuming I am with Vodafone right now. It took them a month to get a working device back into my hands...and then it wasn't even my device or indeed a similarly set up device. Absolutely pathetic. This means I have to make more journeys to the Vodafone store, waste my time and money etc.
Thanks for your posts guys. I will let you know what develops. I should be recieving a reply to my email at some point soon.
Richard
Ok so I got this email back from them today. How do you think I should proceed?
"Hello Richard,
To reinstall the HTC ROM on your phone you can visit the nearest Vodafone stores.
Alternatively, you need to contact the HTC manufacturer if they can help you to reinstall the HTC ROM on your phone.
I trust this helps."
What should I do? Should I persue the issue or do one of the above?
Thanks
Richard
So basically....THEY DIDN'T READ MY EMAIL.
So it was originally branded, you probable had a bit of discount back then.
But the employee that sold it to you probable didn't know it was branded neither. Vodafone used to brand devices with a visible vodafone logo on the outside, and they didn't do that with the HD2.
I also was mislead by it a year ago, but since an vodafone upgrade is available, i don't bother anymore, cause I can install any ROM I like with HSPL2 (except new 3.14 ROMs), and revert with the official vodafone upgrade if needed.
So if you want an original HTC ROM, you have to use HSLP2 or for the latest HTC ROM a GoldCard, cause there's no HSPL for the new 3.14 ROMs (with SPL 3.03.0000 bootloader) (see Artemis Thread).
Turns out I have just installed custom roms. I figured that I might as well void the warranty. I will just revert to the stock if worse comes to worse.
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Hi, i have gone through multiple threads on xda and google to find a solution, but could find none. finally posting out of desperation.
I had WP7 and android from SD (through MAGLDR) on my HD2. for WP7 i had upgraded the radio to 2_14_50_04. But my data and cell phone signal kept dropping in both wp7 and android. after trying a couple of other radios, i decided to go back to an old radio. So i went into bootloader and installed 2_07_51_22_2. The install was successful and thats it, the phone went dead.
No bootloader, no lights, no vibration, no hard reset/soft reset, nothing from the phone. Tried every possible combination of keys, nothing. The only glimmer of hope is that when i connect the HD2 to the computer, it recognizes a USB input and tries to install but cannot. When i plug it out, it makes the usb disconnection sound, so i am hoping there is still some life in it.
Battery was around 80%, so cannot be battery issue (tried charging it again, no luck)
Any help please anyone. I am not able to get into the bootloader, but the usb is being recognized. is there a solution from this kind of problem?
boysha8 said:
Hi, i have gone through multiple threads on xda and google to find a solution, but could find none. finally posting out of desperation.
I had WP7 and android from SD (through MAGLDR) on my HD2. for WP7 i had upgraded the radio to 2_14_50_04. But my data and cell phone signal kept dropping in both wp7 and android. after trying a couple of other radios, i decided to go back to an old radio. So i went into bootloader and installed 2_07_51_22_2. The install was successful and thats it, the phone went dead.
No bootloader, no lights, no vibration, no hard reset/soft reset, nothing from the phone. Tried every possible combination of keys, nothing. The only glimmer of hope is that when i connect the HD2 to the computer, it recognizes a USB input and tries to install but cannot. When i plug it out, it makes the usb disconnection sound, so i am hoping there is still some life in it.
Battery was around 80%, so cannot be battery issue (tried charging it again, no luck)
Any help please anyone. I am not able to get into the bootloader, but the usb is being recognized. is there a solution from this kind of problem?
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Yep you bricked your phone. You made the mistake by flashing a .51 radio which is only for non T-mobile hd2 phone. Since you have a tmobile phone you can only flash .50 radios. Your phone now has a radio that is incompatible with it so it wont turn on. Good news is that there may be a way to unbrick it. Here is a link that may help you unbrick if you have HSPL installed which you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668347#6262090
Dimension2035 said:
Yep you bricked your phone. You made the mistake by flashing a .51 radio which is only for non T-mobile hd2 phone. Since you have a tmobile phone you can only flash .50 radios. Your phone now has a radio that is incompatible with it so it wont turn on. Good news is that there may be a way to unbrick it. Here is a link that may help you unbrick if you have HSPL installed which you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668347#6262090
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Thanks dimension. But i actually tried the steps in this link. Step 11 there asks me to put device in bootloader. But I am not able to get to the bootloader screen at all. Do you know how i can do that?
You can't.
that link is no good to you, it needs the phone to be able to power on.
There is no fix other than jtag or repair center.
samsamuel said:
You can't.
that link is no good to you, it needs the phone to be able to power on.
There is no fix other than jtag or repair center.
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You may be right, but in all hope you should still try it even tho your not able to see the boot loader screen. It may work for you because your computer detects your phone. At this point I would try anything...or cry because I can't live a day without this phone. If it does not work then send it in for repairs which would cost $100 or so, but at least you wont have to pay $250+ for another HD2.
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You may be right, but in all hope you should still try it even tho your not able to see the boot loader screen. It may work for you because your computer detects your phone. At this point I would try anything...or cry because I can't live a day without this phone. If it does not work then send it in for repairs which would cost $100 or so, but at least you wont have to pay $250+ for another HD2.
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i know i cant too. the last 2 days have been pretty depressing. I am now tired of seaching, can anyone point me to a thread as to how to get it repaired (i dont have a tmobile contract or insurance or warranty, so guess i will have to take it to a htc repair center or something). Any pointers would help. I am in the Atlanta, GA area.
Thanks
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you should contact the member of this forum by the name of trashcan... he is the only person in the united states that has the jtag device used to re program the hd2
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i know i cant too. the last 2 days have been pretty depressing. I am now tired of seaching, can anyone point me to a thread as to how to get it repaired (i dont have a tmobile contract or insurance or warranty, so guess i will have to take it to a htc repair center or something). Any pointers would help. I am in the Atlanta, GA area.
Thanks
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The first time whet I briked HD2 they asked 20 euro, the second time (after 4 experiments days) only 10 euro
Dimension2035 said:
Yep you bricked your phone. You made the mistake by flashing a .51 radio which is only for non T-mobile hd2 phone. Since you have a tmobile phone you can only flash .50 radios. Your phone now has a radio that is incompatible with it so it wont turn on. Good news is that there may be a way to unbrick it. Here is a link that may help you unbrick if you have HSPL installed which you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668347#6262090
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Guys, just joined the HD2 forums as I previously had a HD. Noticed this thread and checked my new HD2 T-Mobile (UK) phone and the radio is 2.07.51.22.2 which makes a mockery of your statement regarding the .50 radio, unless I am missing something (which is always possible).
Ooops, just realised that this forum is for USA phones only. Apologies.
sandymac said:
Guys, just joined the HD2 forums as I previously had a HD. Noticed this thread and checked my new HD2 T-Mobile (UK) phone and the radio is 2.07.51.22.2 which makes a mockery of your statement regarding the .50 radio, unless I am missing something (which is always possible).
Ooops, just realised that this forum is for USA phones only. Apologies.
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yup, it can get confusing in here since they split the forums
Me 2
I made the rookie mistake of flashing the wrong rom too, careless on my part. I've contacted HTC Customer Support and put in for RMA, with fingers crossed they won't catch the flashing of illegal software. I know it's a long shot, but we'll see. Worst case scenario I pay for shipping and the $15 fee for them to diagnose my phone. I'll repost if successful.
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I made the rookie mistake of flashing the wrong rom too, careless on my part. I've contacted HTC Customer Support and put in for RMA, with fingers crossed they won't catch the flashing of illegal software. I know it's a long shot, but we'll see. Worst case scenario I pay for shipping and the $15 fee for them to diagnose my phone. I'll repost if successful.
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was it sucessful, I bricked my phone with the wrong radio too and now I'm debating wether to send it in to htc (my warranty expires in 4 days) or just use it as an expensive mirror
I'm definitely excited that this new radio firmware has been leaked, but my dilemma is thus:
My wife and I both have Thunderbolts. I've rooted mine, thrown on custom ROMs, kernels, etc, but hers is stock. Her battery life is MUCH worse on stock than mine, even with the brightness, sync, etc turned down, so she's about to the point of wanting me to root/flash hers too.
Unfortunately, we may have to return her phone as the speakerphone is all but unusable due to feedback/noise issues while in a call. I know it's fairly simple to return a phone to stock, and Verizon can't tell over the air what ROM or kernel you're using, but from what I can gather, they CAN tell what radio version you're using. If I have to return her phone for warranty issues, will they see that she's had the leaked radio firmware and thus deny the claim?
if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
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if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
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I agree. Just return the phone now if you are having problems.
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt using Perfect Storm themed XDA App
Veridor said:
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt using Perfect Storm themed XDA App
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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Will have to look in to that. Guess I'm paranoid about them flagging my account as "teh haxx!" from using an unreleased radio.
If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
Just call tech and tell them the phone wont boot, they cant get you to trouble shoot a phone that wont boot up. They never check the phones you warranty out. I've warrantied out phones with cracked screens, water damage, you name it.
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If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
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Why do you recommend not flashing the new radio if you are tethering?
Because, it isn't released yet. There have been reports (i.e. claims) of VZW cracking down on people who tether a lot and are running the unreleased radio. True or not, it's your decision.
When the ThunderBolt came out I had the iPhone 4. I had just gotten it from my sister's line 14 days before. I was going to upgrade from the 16gb to the 32gb but then I saw the ThunderBolt and changed my mind. Since I've had the BlackBerry Storm (CrackBerry was my favorite site), the iPhone 3GS (Jailbroken) Moto Droid OG (Rooted), Incredible (Rooted), I have had a long line of never leaving my phone stock. My iPhone 4 was no different. I was at work and didn't have time to un-Jailbreak it so I left it that way and brought it to the store. The reps took back the phone and I got the ThunderBolt. Needless to say, the reps are all about making money and trying to up sell you on accessories. They barely ever check the software of the phone.
related but a bit off topic
Dumb question.. This is related but, a bit off topic, since I'm gonna wait and root once gingerbread arrives (yeah yeah, i know), if I install the new UNROOTED Ruu will I still be able to receive the OTA version incase anything is different or changed in it? Also, will it affect getting OTA gingerbread??? Thanks to all!
When I got my Thunderbolt the rep told me about this site and we had a discussion about rooting. He had an iPhone4 which was jailbroken. He was going to get a Thunderbolt and he was looking forward to rooting it and trying some ROM's.
Another rep came over and joined the discussion. They obviously are 'unofficially' fine with it.
Your mileage may vary with reps. They aren't supposed to activate or look at any phone with third party software. But after activating my t-bolt and talking to a rep about rooting it he mentioned he turned away a kid with a X with liberty1.5. Just don't come in like and asshole. Think of your job, you're more than willing to go above and beyond for someone thats 'cool' and not looking for something for nothing.
Worse comes to worse, if you purchased the monthly warranty for your phone just tell them you lost it and pay the fee to get another one. That way they have no clue about anything.
Just pull the battery incase you have the find my android activated with them
Unless I'm mistaken, you can head over to this XDA thread and download the stock radio (1.12.605.6 = stock CDMA radio & 1.16.00.0223r = stock LTE radio)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081
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(The following text is re-posted from the above URL) :
Lastly (for now), we have the 1.12.605.6 CDMA/LTE radio combo.
CDMA Radio version: 1.16.00.0223r
LTE radio version that came with 1.12.605.6
http://www.multiupload.com/J0K4DL6SMQ
or
http://dougpiston.com/ThunderBolt/Radios/1.12.605.6_CDMA_1.13.605.7_LTE_radio-PG05IMG.zip
(rename to PG05img.zip)
MD5 - A740031D09FC97D1B48FBEDFE73FDD24
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I hope that helps you with your decision regarding your wife's phone.
Best,
M.