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I need to buy a new MicroSD card, so I'm shopping around a bit. Tell me, is the ULTRA II from SanDisk really that much faster than a standard microSD?
They cost quite a bit more
this has already been discussed, do a search dude.
Sorry, you're right it has been discussed. But a satisfactory answer has not been reached. Some people speculate that it makes no difference because of the read speed of the device. Others say it should be twice as fast.
The one person who has actually tested it with both cards was using a wizard, apparently the mp3's & vid files load faster. What I want to know is whether an actual increase program speed will be noticed, like with navigator maps etc.
I hope i'm not getting anyone angry for partialy duplicating another post, but it's not just about the card ;]
ok, so first thing is that i'd like to buy myself something bigger than my kingston 512 minisd, and realised that most of the cards i see now are kingston... i don't think thats the best brand, especially i see the transfer rates of these are aprox. 8/6 r/w MB as stated in descriptions... what would be a reasonable transfer rate, that would allow for example recording skippy-free video using my wizard? how to test transfer rate with the current card... what is the wizard speed limitation here... so many things you probably know the answer to, so please, adivise guys ;]
I found a 2gb Micro sd for $19
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4152649
And the 4gb Micro sd for $39 (Dont know whether it works with the 8525)
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4159987
They are sold out but you can do a order and once its available, they ship it to you..
I ordered the 2gb using google checkout for $9.99 plus shipping and also the 4gb using google check for $30 plus shipping.
They say that it will b available in the nex 2 weeks time!!I wonder if they sold atleast one such coby 2GB microSD card cos I have been scanning all da deals for a 2GB microSD for quite some time now!!
do we know definately one way or the other whether the Hermes supports a 4GB microSD card?
warmkiwi99 said:
do we know definately one way or the other whether the Hermes supports a 4GB microSD card?
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Here is your answer from HTC Europe at the link below, it is a thumbs up!
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=29
Brilliant - thanks for the info. Soon I can have my maps of UK + France AND my music
But it's sure that will work?
From samewhere, I've read that base for 4gb is different from 2 gbm should be just a little bit more big.
boz said:
Here is your answer from HTC Europe at the link below, it is a thumbs up!
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=29
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it doesn't say anything about micro sd card ????? only sd and mini
tbl178 said:
it doesn't say anything about micro sd card ????? only sd and mini
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They have put the wrong card type on their site but the info still stands, ring the helpline and they will confirm it.
Don't be excited by HTC FAQ! The answers are common for all the models. I bet that answer was written way before TyTN out, or even before SD 2.0 specs.
Did you ever see a TyTN with WM2003SE? So why don't you ask yourself why it is mentioned in the answer for TyTN then...
Lurker0 said:
Don't be excited by HTC FAQ! The answers are common for all the models. I bet that answer was written way before TyTN out, or even before SD 2.0 specs.
Did you ever see a TyTN with WM2003SE? So why don't you ask yourself why it is mentioned in the answer for TyTN then...
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If it's not a SHDC card it should work... And I do believ it's quite unlikely we will see soon SDHC micro SD cards or phones (They are more targeted at cameras)
So all in all I think it will work. Anyway given the price I'll buy one just to try
2+GB cards
Hi I have asked the HTC support and here is their answer:
Hi,
I would like to know the maximum card size it will handle. I have found
this information on the HTC website:
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http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=29
Support: HTC TyTN
What is the maximum SD card size compatible with my device?
For Win CE 2003 =>General for SDIO is 1GB.
For WM 5.0 => SD Card is 4GB and Mini-SD is 12GB
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But is it a strange answer, most probably not written about this device.
The TyTN does not have Mini-SD but micro-SD AND it never had WinCE 2003.
So what is the maximum card capacity it can handle? Thanks.
Another (quick) question is if there is a difference between TyTN and Hermes. Aren't they the same?
Thanks for your answers.
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Dear Customer,
I will attempt to answer each of your questions in turn:
Memory Card Capacity
There is a typo on our website which lists the maximum storage card size as 12gb. This is incorrect. The maximum memory our devices can hold is 2gb. The devices do not support the SDHC formatting measure, and as such, larger cards are not compatible.
TyTN vs. Hermes
These devices are identical. The Hermes is the pre-release name for the TyTN. There are no differences between the two.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
James-Lee Breen
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
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I hope it will help others, too.
But yet there are guys using 4Gb mini cards in their Trinitys, I believe it was...
Once again proving that the help from the manufacturer is worthless.
Not for nothing, but I went through this with quite a few Motorola phones... and each time they told me the newer, higher capacity card wouldn't work. And, in all but one instance were they right.
I mean, if the 4Gb card hasn't even been released, how would they know whether or not it works? More likely that should say "The maximum memory we have tested our devices to hold is 2Gb"
Anyone know if this is a good card?
Does anyone know how much extra it is to ship to Canada?
EDIT: I just called, and shipping is going to be about $30 US...what a deal breaker...Damn it. It's because they use UPS and they charge like $20+ brokerage fee.
I ordered one.
If it actually ships... I'll post up my results when I get it (I've had 2 backorders for teh 4Gb micro card fall through up till now).
Specification of SD cards allows max 2GB(doesnt matter if SD, miniSD, microSD), but fortunately dont know how it can somehow fake fs and os to access 4GB - maybe thru operating system i really dont know but it works. Best for answer to this Quest. could be mammaich igues. At least I hope it will be SD not SDHC. but let us know
I've got a 4Gb SD card I bought about a year ago... says nothing about the "HC" on the card or in the literature, and it worked fine with the devices I needed it to work with... devices whose manufacturers told me it wouldn't work with.
The way I look at it, if it doesn't work in the Hermes, either it will eventually, or the next phone I get it'll work in.
wait and see
I think it all comes down to just waiting until someone sticks one in the Hermes.
And if it doesn't work... maybe there be a hack to make it work.
what I want to see if this doesn't work is for them to come out with a normal (non SHDC) format 4gb (or larger) card.
4gb ... hell I want 12gb
margatenj said:
I think it all comes down to just waiting until someone sticks one in the Hermes.
And if it doesn't work... maybe there be a hack to make it work.
what I want to see if this doesn't work is for them to come out with a normal (non SHDC) format 4gb (or larger) card.
4gb ... hell I want 12gb
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That is true. However, a proper test would be to actually transfer 4gb to the card. Then back and forth to the pc.
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That is true. However, a proper test would be to actually transfer 4gb to the card. Then back and forth to the pc.
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Yes I've seen it in the past too, pluggin a larger then specified memory card into devices and it sees the ram space, just can not access it.
Thats what updated roms and patches are for ... and I think this is the right site for this ... just gotta wait and see.
It feels like a year since I've seen 4gb flashmem has been advertised ... and ETA on these?
So, can anyone confirm or deny these work?
Ok, so from my research, the 8GB Micro SD is not yet widely available or even on the shelves (correct me if I wrong). But, according to the various sites I've looked at these size cards are well on there way to being released.
I know the new standard of SDHC SD card are available in 8GB and possibly above, but I have now got a Hermes, so wanted to try going higher in Micro SD. Presently I use both a 2GB and a 4GB Micro SD, depending on what I'm needing to store.
Size wise 4GB it great as options for storage are vast.
But I wanted to see it there was any further news as to the new 8GB or higher that I'd read somewhere?
Having looked on line I could only find the following:
6GB Micro SD
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Pre-ordering only?
1: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/6GB/Micro/SDHC/Card
= SanDisk 6GB Micro SDHC Card £69.99
8GB Micro SD
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Pre-ordering only?
2: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/8GB/Micro/SDHC/Cardhttp://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/6GB/Micro/SDHC/Card
= SanDisk 8GB Micro SDHC Card £99.99
Since upgrading the Hermes ROM on my phone to WM6 which was purely to allow it to use the 4GB Micro SD I had bought (I swear by SanDisk as have NEVER had a problem with them in over 5 years of assorted SD cards)
Am going to keep looking over the next few weeks and would be interested in any feedback if any others have found any news about higher capacity versions.
I have no idea if WM6 will be able to read higher than 4GB but my guess would be a resounding YES! on the grounds of what I have a feeling is WM6 full? SDHC support. whereas WM5 on the Orange version of the Hermes 'SPV M3100' had only partial support and can only recognize 2GB sized Cards.
N_C
PS: if this post is in the wrong place or out of date can a mod sort it out and remove or move it. Many thanks. Just wanted to share my interest and findings on these Micro beasties thats all.
You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
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The six (6) GB link was intentional bud. I have researched "above and beyond" the 4GB size. Happened to find the 6GB link on same site so added it as I didn't know if like myself others were also unaware of this specification.
Cheers anyway.
You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.
Wow, 8G! Wish I had known that before splashing out on an 8G Zen MP3 player.
Thanks for the spot!
Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?
I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:
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Good morning
The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
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Teorically an microsd reader could be support the HD format through a firmware update...
Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
From italy,
Mattia
MattiaRs-- There many threads in this forum about people using sdhc cards in their hermes with the newer builds of ROM. You gotta search and read.
RemE said:
You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.
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Sorted, and thanks.
frenchglen said:
You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
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Corrected. Didn't realize the mistake. Thanks dude.
MattiaRs said:
Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?
I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:
[....]
Good morning
The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
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Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
From italy,
Mattia
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When a representative from Orange looked into this on my behalf, he also was told me that HTC was only recommending that the Hermes be used with 2GB Micro SD cards, as that was the limit they (HTC) would guarantee.
When I first tested cards out prior to a firmware update to WM6, the above was indeed true.
However, my Hermes now runs WM6 and uses a 4GB SDHC Micro SD Card on a daily basis without ever having a problem.
I have no idea if this will be true of higher spec cards such as the 6GB or the 8GB or even anything higher, but I feel confident that it will. But that is just my opinion as until tried and tested its down to guesswork whether or not other card sizes will be recognized.
PS: you asked what is the difference between micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
The answer is that I have NEVER heard of Micro SDHD. To me that is a High Definition tag and not one that refers to any card type.
I've only ever known SDHC.
Even Google comes back with: "Did you mean SDHC" Maybe others know of this type of card?
Originally Posted by RemE
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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I have deleted my original reply due to better response
See post (#13) from whatledog
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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You could walk into a verizon store anytime and pick up a card, if you wanted. Other people have been able to order 4gb cards-- you could, also. READ!!!
Transcend 4GB SD with Exec loses data randomly --please help.
Hello there,
I read you people are using 4GB SD without any problems, you might solve my problem.
I am using one on my Exec with WM6,(ROM 2.02.02,Radio 1.15, Protocol 42.51.P8, no ext rom) and facing a weird problem.The card loses the data for no apparent reason.The folder viz. My document has just been emptied and I lost my all ebooks--150 MB.
The file explorer shows the card contains 776 Mb data while the 'Resco explorer' shows 1007 Mb,in setting-memory-storage card it shows 1007 Mb,but it actually has only 776 Mb data, so I have lost 150 Mb data permanently and 300 Mb storage space on card!
This is the THIRD time it has happened and on previous occasions I had the card replaced.I am fed up with this problem,is it the card itself or the Exec or the WM6 or the ROM which is causing this problem?
Is there any way to retrieve the data and the memory lost from the card, for I think it is there and it just hidden somewhere...I hope.
I am not a techie,(medical doctor--using Exec more as a PDA than a communicator)hence the lengthy description ,thanks in advance,sorry for the intrusion.
bye.
sorry for the hastles your having
I wish I could help you further but apart from what I have read relating to the Hermes I can't.
I would hazard a guess and say that it sounds more like the Operating System / ROM which perhaps is not handling the card properly.
Best if you put up a new post on the main board and ask for help.
I hope you get it sorted as I know from my own problems similar to your missing card data how really annoying this problem is. I do know that I have had two SD card made by transcend. I used them for 6 months without a hitch. I put movies and files on them both for University and work use and used them in my previous phone which was an English version of the Prophet (Orange SPV M600)
Point is that in my own experience, Transcend are indeed a reliable brand or storage card. So it doesn't sound like a card problem in my opinion. Perhaps you may new to look at updating the ROM? I have no knowledge of your phone model "Exec" so can't help. But as I said best if you ask for help on the board. Maybe on various boards if you've had no luck already. Someone may have previously owned an Exec and might be able to shed some light on this problem.
Kalya-- You need to post your problem on the Universal forums, not the Hermes. There, hopefully, you will get the help you need. Different models react differently to various things. May you find your solutions...
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1
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Did the price just go up? I swear I just saw them on Amazon for about $54.
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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From what I've been told, Sandisk made a deal with Verizon so they are the only approved suppliers in the US for one year. You can buy the 4GB miro SDHC card from them or any Verizon distributor (even Circuit City). However, they are more expensive than Amazon...
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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Amazon.com
Ijust got my Sandisk 4gb sdhc today... woohhhoooo
Hello all,
I've searched the forums and only came across one thread that remained unanswered from the same question I have. IF anyone can chim on this, it would be great.
Specs say 128 GB is the biggest supported but in many cases, some hardware specs can indeed provide more than they are listed as. So I am wondering if anyone has tried OR could try something higher as a test for me as I would like to buy maybe a 200 GB microsd if it would work.
Optional question. If I did buy a 200 GB, and it only supported 128 GB, would the phone only be able to format it as 128 GB or would it not see the card at all?
thanks for you help.
Immediate response appreciated as SD card deal is over in a day or so!
thanks again
I don't think it would not recognize, but if that's the case then you can partition the sd card to make android detect 2 instead of one.
It may work