What happens to the Ext ROM when shelltool is used - G4

Hello all,
Thanks to that make this site available to people like me.
I have a Cingular branded phone (IPL 2.25.0001) that is considering using the shelltool. But before I do I want to make sure I don't lose functionality. It is my understanding that the Ext ROM is untouchable even if you pay to have the CID lock removed. How does this affect the new ROM put on the phone? It is my understanding that there are register tweaks etc that are placed there by vendors?
Thanks in advance
seacoug

Hi there,
First of all, welcome
Now, the CID lock has nothing to do with the Ext Rom. The Ext Rom is sometimes part of a ROM. Shelltool only flashes OS part of the ROM, so your already existing ExtRom is not modified.
And yes, the vendors put there all the .cab and fixes needed (which might not be all the fixes there is )

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2003 se Ext rom

Need a non branded extended rom with no additional programs than the basics. I tryed geting one from the original qtejk rom but the programs are not compatible and after a soft reset it freezes when it starts to personalize. All rom makers put there idiot programs that we can add later but they just don't understand . Plz can anyone suply me a ext rom for 03se that will work good??
why not just unhide and unlock the ext rom and remove the stuff you dont want ?
I saw that in my rom but where do i go to remove them??? ANd i need a list of programs that are vital... I like wm03se but the fact that i can't find an extended rom like i did for wm03 kills me. In wm03 i used the original qtek ext rom and it worked like a charm.

Extended ROM modification questions

I have a Cingular 8525 and using the HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab file I was able to unlock and unhide the Extended ROM. I would like to modify the cab files inside the ExtROM and I had a couple of questions:
1) If I delete some of the cab files to ensure that they won't get installed again after a hard reset, do I have to modify the Config.txt file?
I.e. if I delete C_Cingular_GoodEmail_081606.sa.cab from the ExtROM folder, I have to delete the same entry in the Config.txt file.
2) Some of the cab files are important, such as the MMS shortcut, while others I know I won't need, such as the Good_Email cab. However, there are a number of cab file that I am not sure what they are for. Can anyone tell me what are these for and if it is not important so that I can safely removed it from the ExtROM folder:
MT_PC_Hermes_GenericLight_REG_060609.CAB
C_getmail.ppc2005(HTC8100).ARMV4Rel.cingular.CAB
Is this for the "Get email" in the Today screen?
T_mm1lib_DLL.CAB
PP_PIE_Default.CAB
Is this for the Start Page in PIE?
SMS_Setting_07Jun06.CAB
Is this for setting up the Cingular's SMS service centre
Thanks!
Any expert?
Upgrade to the HTC 1.35 Rom. As I said, faster and no junks installed.
Doesn't HTC 1.35 also include bootloader 1.09 which will prevent you from down-grading the ROM to 1.04 and then unlocking the CID? 1.35 may well be faster, but probably ought to be sure that you have tweaked the CID, etc first...
Ninja1
lanwarrior said:
I have a Cingular 8525 and using the HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab file I was able to unlock and unhide the Extended ROM.
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Are you actually able to write anything to extROM? Have you tried installing a program there yet? I believe you have to have SuperCID to get the unlocker to work properly...
hookhook said:
Upgrade to the HTC 1.35 Rom. As I said, faster and no junks installed.
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How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
Ninja1 said:
Doesn't HTC 1.35 also include bootloader 1.09 which will prevent you from down-grading the ROM to 1.04 and then unlocking the CID? 1.35 may well be faster, but probably ought to be sure that you have tweaked the CID, etc first...
Ninja1
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That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
URPREY said:
Are you actually able to write anything to extROM? Have you tried installing a program there yet? I believe you have to have SuperCID to get the unlocker to work properly...
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I have made the 8525 SuperCID and can see the ExtROM from Resco File Explorer. I can delete and add CAB files, but have not installed a program there (yet).
For my original question: anyhting I need to do if I just simply want to modify the ExtROM content?
lanwarrior said:
How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
I have made the 8525 SuperCID and can see the ExtROM from Resco File Explorer. I can delete and add CAB files, but have not installed a program there (yet).
For my original question: anyhting I need to do if I just simply want to modify the ExtROM content?
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If you search the FTP or the wizard forum there is a thread by faria that discusses how to modify and customize your extended rom
What I did...
Is just copy off the Cingular crap and store it on my microSD card. I have installed a variety of programs (Opera, etc) into the ExtROM. Seems to all work fine, and I have used Sprite to preserve everything. Should I ever need to Hard Reset and recustomize back to the Cing settings I can just run Sprite to restore everything, or use the copied cabs should Sprite fail.
Ninja1
lanwarrior said:
How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
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I would say it's about 5-10% faster and using 3-4MB less ram&rom.
Sure, you can downgrade the 1.09 bl back to 1.04. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
Ninja1 said:
Is just copy off the Cingular crap and store it on my microSD card. I have installed a variety of programs (Opera, etc) into the ExtROM. Seems to all work fine, and I have used Sprite to preserve everything. Should I ever need to Hard Reset and recustomize back to the Cing settings I can just run Sprite to restore everything, or use the copied cabs should Sprite fail.
Ninja1
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I don't want to copy ALL of the cabs in the ExtROM, as some of them are essential. I.e. MMS shortcut is needed, otherwise I won't be able to configure or even see the MMS folder.
Have you ever modified SOME (Not all) of the cabs in the ExtROM AND perform a hard reset WITHOUT reverting to the Sprite backup? If yes, do you need to modify the Config.txt?
Also, do you know the purpose of some of the cab file listed above?
I've used Sprite backup and also SpB backup for the past 1 year and I noticed that sometimes the backup won't help depending on the issue I am having. For example, I had issue with dangling notifications where the phone kept on beeping during the restart, as if there is an appointment and restoring the backup won't help for some reason, hence I had to hard reset.
hookhook said:
I would say it's about 5-10% faster and using 3-4MB less ram&rom.
Sure, you can downgrade the 1.09 bl back to 1.04. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
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When I hard reset my 8525, I soft reset it again BEFORE the ExtROM cabs are installed. So I have minimal ROM/RAM usage. As a matter of fact, I'll have about 30+Mb free RAM.
I am hesistant to upgrade to another ROM now, unless it has fixed AKU3. Otherwise, I'd have to spent the whole day re-installing and re-configuring the device again.
lanwarrior said:
When I hard reset my 8525, I soft reset it again BEFORE the ExtROM cabs are installed. So I have minimal ROM/RAM usage. As a matter of fact, I'll have about 30+Mb free RAM.
I am hesistant to upgrade to another ROM now, unless it has fixed AKU3. Otherwise, I'd have to spent the whole day re-installing and re-configuring the device again.
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I think NOT installing the ext_ROM cabs gives you about 3 to 5 Mb extra RAM, not 30!?
pietrucci said:
I think NOT installing the ext_ROM cabs gives you about 3 to 5 Mb extra RAM, not 30!?
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That's TOTAL available RAM.

Small question regarding ext rom

Hi all
First of all, im new to hermes! but not new to smartphones/ppc's!
i stumbled across this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750&highlight=software
and it discusses unhiding and unlocking the extended rom for about 10mbs of space.
now, on the Himalaya (i think this is the case anyway) the ext rom is used as a 'RAMDRIVE' and as so, when flashing ONLY the OS partition (as many of the custom roms are) what you have stored in ext-rom does not get touched.....
So, my theory is as follows:
Unlock/unhide Ext ROM,
Use as a storage space for backups between roms
i suppose, my question is, would this actually work or is it just a load of crap?!
many thanks
Also, if anyone has any hermes software they would like to reccomend, please do!
Thank you

full backup or dump of internal storage memory (installed programs,settings,registry)

I would like to try some cooked ROMs.
But I fully personalized all the settings in my actual shipped ROM.
I lost so much time to personalize it.
Is there a way to do a full backup or a "dump" of the internal memory as it is now?
Or there is a good backup program that FULLY backup all settings? (not only documents, contacts, messages, etc... but also registry, program settings, etc...).
So if I want to go back to my actual ROM, I reflash it then I restore the "dump" to get back all my old settings?
Thanks to all for your help!
Read here for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424805&highlight=Dump
And please search in the future.
Ta
Dave
I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
parallel666killer said:
I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
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It save's the current state IIRC.
Ta
Dave
No, it doesn't save the current state, only the installation files of the ROM.
I created the dump and I created ruu_signed.nbh.
I flashed ROMeOS, then I flashed back my created ROM.
All settings and programs are gone.
I think I didn't well explained what I would like to know.
I mean if it is possible to create a flash nbh file with the ROM backup (and this can be done, there are many thread about, I tried too and I succedeed), but also a full backup of ALL INSTALLED PROGRAMS IN THE INTERNAL STORAGE (programs I installed, no default ROM programs), all settings (TouchFLO3D settings and customization, phone settings,etc...), registry and system data.
As SBP Backup does.
And also avoid hard-reset restart after flashing that nbh file.
So the phone starts directly the first time normally.
What there is in the Part03.raw which is 330Mb?
The dimension is near the available internal storage.
I dont think it quite works like that.
I think your best bet is to build your own rom with your own settings and apps, AFAIK this is the only way to have the phone exactly as your want it after first boot.
Also have a look at SASHIMI, you may be able to get the results you want using that, although something seems to have happened to the thread pro tem.
Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
Just in case you you havnt seen it:-
What you want the Raphael Kitchen, its an awesome package that lets mere mortals build their own perfect rom.
parallel666killer said:
Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
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SASHIMI 7.7 is now available. The new location is here

is my wizard flashable?

hi,
i want to install a new rom on my wizard,
but hell , i dont want to kill it!
this is what the first screen shows:
ipl: 3.08.0001
spl: 3.08.0001
gsm: 02.69.11
os: 3.8.2.2
will there be any problems?
whats the best windows mobile 6.1 oder 6.5 rom?
thx!
First, don't do anything to your phone. First, you must...
READ!!1!!one!
Is my Wizard a G3 or a G4?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Versions
How do you flash a phone with a new os (WM6, etc.)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
When and why should I revert to my service provider's base ROM?
Die-hard flash fans will revert back to the SP ROM on every upgrade, to avoid Extended ROM corruption. This isn't absolutely required, but most die-hards will recommend it. I recommend it.
I have a G4...HardSPL, SoftSPL, what's the difference, and why should I care?
Because of previous question, I usually recommend using SoftSPL for most people, but the RUU doesn't always work with everyone's ROMs.
SoftSPL (one-shot)
HardSPL (semi-permanent)
Removing HardSPL
The cook's installer didn't work on my phone, where's a good one?
Mun's RUU(works for almost everyone...just drop the nk.nbf into Mun's RUU, and flash away...)
What are the must-have computing items for flashing a phone?
The most reliable method is with a Windows XP machine loaded with Activesync 4.5, and connected via USB cable. Don't try it on Vista or older Windows versions, as it usually fails, and might even brick your phone. If you're a Thunderbird/FinchSync user, don't even think about it.
For your mobile, get DotFred's PPC PIM Backup tool, and load it to your SD card, so you can back up your contact list, call history, etc. for easy personalization. Note: Remove your SD card while flashing; it has been known to corrupt flash process, and occasionally to wipe out your SD card. If that's where you're backing up your PIM data, you'll be pretty bummed.
What SD cards can I use?
Anything that is clearly non-HC (high capacity). Generally, if you stick to 2GB or less, you won't have a problem with this, but if you go looking for 4GB or higher, avoid anything with the HC label (i.e. SDHC); your hardware cannot read it, and it may corrupt data or even possibly (though rarely) brick your phone.
Which ROM is best?
Wrong question. Right question is: which is best for YOU? Try this thread for helpful pointers.
If you read all of this and you still have questions, feel free to reply.

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