I have a Cingular 8525 and using the HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab file I was able to unlock and unhide the Extended ROM. I would like to modify the cab files inside the ExtROM and I had a couple of questions:
1) If I delete some of the cab files to ensure that they won't get installed again after a hard reset, do I have to modify the Config.txt file?
I.e. if I delete C_Cingular_GoodEmail_081606.sa.cab from the ExtROM folder, I have to delete the same entry in the Config.txt file.
2) Some of the cab files are important, such as the MMS shortcut, while others I know I won't need, such as the Good_Email cab. However, there are a number of cab file that I am not sure what they are for. Can anyone tell me what are these for and if it is not important so that I can safely removed it from the ExtROM folder:
MT_PC_Hermes_GenericLight_REG_060609.CAB
C_getmail.ppc2005(HTC8100).ARMV4Rel.cingular.CAB
Is this for the "Get email" in the Today screen?
T_mm1lib_DLL.CAB
PP_PIE_Default.CAB
Is this for the Start Page in PIE?
SMS_Setting_07Jun06.CAB
Is this for setting up the Cingular's SMS service centre
Thanks!
Any expert?
Upgrade to the HTC 1.35 Rom. As I said, faster and no junks installed.
Doesn't HTC 1.35 also include bootloader 1.09 which will prevent you from down-grading the ROM to 1.04 and then unlocking the CID? 1.35 may well be faster, but probably ought to be sure that you have tweaked the CID, etc first...
Ninja1
lanwarrior said:
I have a Cingular 8525 and using the HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab file I was able to unlock and unhide the Extended ROM.
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Are you actually able to write anything to extROM? Have you tried installing a program there yet? I believe you have to have SuperCID to get the unlocker to work properly...
hookhook said:
Upgrade to the HTC 1.35 Rom. As I said, faster and no junks installed.
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How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
Ninja1 said:
Doesn't HTC 1.35 also include bootloader 1.09 which will prevent you from down-grading the ROM to 1.04 and then unlocking the CID? 1.35 may well be faster, but probably ought to be sure that you have tweaked the CID, etc first...
Ninja1
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That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
URPREY said:
Are you actually able to write anything to extROM? Have you tried installing a program there yet? I believe you have to have SuperCID to get the unlocker to work properly...
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I have made the 8525 SuperCID and can see the ExtROM from Resco File Explorer. I can delete and add CAB files, but have not installed a program there (yet).
For my original question: anyhting I need to do if I just simply want to modify the ExtROM content?
lanwarrior said:
How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
I have made the 8525 SuperCID and can see the ExtROM from Resco File Explorer. I can delete and add CAB files, but have not installed a program there (yet).
For my original question: anyhting I need to do if I just simply want to modify the ExtROM content?
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If you search the FTP or the wizard forum there is a thread by faria that discusses how to modify and customize your extended rom
What I did...
Is just copy off the Cingular crap and store it on my microSD card. I have installed a variety of programs (Opera, etc) into the ExtROM. Seems to all work fine, and I have used Sprite to preserve everything. Should I ever need to Hard Reset and recustomize back to the Cing settings I can just run Sprite to restore everything, or use the copied cabs should Sprite fail.
Ninja1
lanwarrior said:
How fast it is? I was searching for your thread about this, but after reading so many post I got a headache.
That's a very important fact! I wonder wha else the new bootloader is preventing. However, I have made my 8525 SuperCID..
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I would say it's about 5-10% faster and using 3-4MB less ram&rom.
Sure, you can downgrade the 1.09 bl back to 1.04. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
Ninja1 said:
Is just copy off the Cingular crap and store it on my microSD card. I have installed a variety of programs (Opera, etc) into the ExtROM. Seems to all work fine, and I have used Sprite to preserve everything. Should I ever need to Hard Reset and recustomize back to the Cing settings I can just run Sprite to restore everything, or use the copied cabs should Sprite fail.
Ninja1
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I don't want to copy ALL of the cabs in the ExtROM, as some of them are essential. I.e. MMS shortcut is needed, otherwise I won't be able to configure or even see the MMS folder.
Have you ever modified SOME (Not all) of the cabs in the ExtROM AND perform a hard reset WITHOUT reverting to the Sprite backup? If yes, do you need to modify the Config.txt?
Also, do you know the purpose of some of the cab file listed above?
I've used Sprite backup and also SpB backup for the past 1 year and I noticed that sometimes the backup won't help depending on the issue I am having. For example, I had issue with dangling notifications where the phone kept on beeping during the restart, as if there is an appointment and restoring the backup won't help for some reason, hence I had to hard reset.
hookhook said:
I would say it's about 5-10% faster and using 3-4MB less ram&rom.
Sure, you can downgrade the 1.09 bl back to 1.04. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
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When I hard reset my 8525, I soft reset it again BEFORE the ExtROM cabs are installed. So I have minimal ROM/RAM usage. As a matter of fact, I'll have about 30+Mb free RAM.
I am hesistant to upgrade to another ROM now, unless it has fixed AKU3. Otherwise, I'd have to spent the whole day re-installing and re-configuring the device again.
lanwarrior said:
When I hard reset my 8525, I soft reset it again BEFORE the ExtROM cabs are installed. So I have minimal ROM/RAM usage. As a matter of fact, I'll have about 30+Mb free RAM.
I am hesistant to upgrade to another ROM now, unless it has fixed AKU3. Otherwise, I'd have to spent the whole day re-installing and re-configuring the device again.
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I think NOT installing the ext_ROM cabs gives you about 3 to 5 Mb extra RAM, not 30!?
pietrucci said:
I think NOT installing the ext_ROM cabs gives you about 3 to 5 Mb extra RAM, not 30!?
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That's TOTAL available RAM.
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Hello all,
Thanks to that make this site available to people like me.
I have a Cingular branded phone (IPL 2.25.0001) that is considering using the shelltool. But before I do I want to make sure I don't lose functionality. It is my understanding that the Ext ROM is untouchable even if you pay to have the CID lock removed. How does this affect the new ROM put on the phone? It is my understanding that there are register tweaks etc that are placed there by vendors?
Thanks in advance
seacoug
Hi there,
First of all, welcome
Now, the CID lock has nothing to do with the Ext Rom. The Ext Rom is sometimes part of a ROM. Shelltool only flashes OS part of the ROM, so your already existing ExtRom is not modified.
And yes, the vendors put there all the .cab and fixes needed (which might not be all the fixes there is )
Hello,
I've still installed my original ROM. But I want to upgrade to a WM6.1 version. Prior I want to backup my ROM so that I can go back every time. Actual my device is CID locked. So "r2sd" didn't work.
Is there any possibility (without charge) to backup my ROM?
E.g. I remember there a program called "grab it ...". This program is installed on a SD card and dumps the ROM to dump.bin on this SD card. But I've no idea if this backup is good enough and how to restore.
Possibly there are also other ways...
Joline
Joline said:
Hello,
I've still installed my original ROM. But I want to upgrade to a WM6.1 version. Prior I want to backup my ROM so that I can go back every time. Actual my device is CID locked. So "r2sd" didn't work.
Is there any possibility (without charge) to backup my ROM?
E.g. I remember there a program called "grab it ...". This program is installed on a SD card and dumps the ROM to dump.bin on this SD card. But I've no idea if this backup is good enough and how to restore.
Possibly there are also other ways...
Joline
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What brand is your device?
The ROM for it may already be available on the Wiki.
grab_it needs the ROM to be rebuilt to allow flashing, although if you upload the dump.bin file, I'll be happy to give the rebuilding a shot for your (for free of course!).
Alternatively, you can apply Hard/Soft SPL prior to using R2SD.
I did see an alternative method somewhere (specifically for Prophet) although I can't remember where!
l3v5y said:
What brand is your device?
The ROM for it may already be available on the Wiki.
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I have a T-Mobile TC 500. Unfortunatelly there is no ROM in the Wiki (because this brand is very rare). Maybe if I can successful backup this ROM I would publish this here in the Wiki...
l3v5y said:
Alternatively, you can apply Hard/Soft SPL prior to using R2SD.
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Do you think it is possible after applying Hard/Soft SPL that I can backup my original ROM?
l3v5y said:
I did see an alternative method somewhere (specifically for Prophet) although I can't remember where!
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What a shame!
l3v5y said:
grab_it needs the ROM to be rebuilt to allow flashing, although if you upload the dump.bin file, I'll be happy to give the rebuilding a shot for your (for free of course!).
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How does this works?
Joline said:
I have a T-Mobile TC 500. Unfortunatelly there is no ROM in the Wiki (because this brand is very rare). Maybe if I can successful backup this ROM I would publish this here in the Wiki...
Do you think it is possible after applying Hard/Soft SPL that I can backup my original ROM?
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Hard/SoftSPL allow bypassing of the CID checks, so it could work.
How does this works?
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The dump.bin file you get can be edited using ROM tools.
Looks like I found an alternative!
aWizard! It works fine to backup the ROM on my Prophet, and with a bit of playing around, the dump can be flashed back to the device!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=252957
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Hard/SoftSPL allow bypassing of the CID checks, so it could work.
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I'll try SoftSPL at first.
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aWizard is an alternative. Thanks. If the Hard/SoftSPL will not work I'll try aWizard also.
Finally I could get the ROM using grab_it. I hope somebody will help me cooking a "flashable" ROM from dump.bin if this is needed.
Mainly I want to have a chance to go back to the original ROM if the new ROM doesn't work. So maybe I'll never use the backup...
Joline
With SoftSPL it seems to work. After running SoftSPL I was able to connect via MTTY and run "r2sd all". This command has done something. No idea, if this was correct...
Joline
Joline said:
With SoftSPL it seems to work. After running SoftSPL I was able to connect via MTTY and run "r2sd all". This command has done something. No idea, if this was correct...
Joline
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Restart the device, and see if it prompts you to load the ROM from the SD card.
If I restart to the 3-color-screen a question comes up to load the image from sd card. Great.
restore works?
Joline said:
If I restart to the 3-color-screen a question comes up to load the image from sd card. Great.
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Hi Joline!
I'm in the same situation! I also wanted to backup my original ROM (HUN) because of warranty since I haven't found it next to the downloadable original ROMs.
I did the same as you! I also got it dumped and the bootloader offered me to restore too. BUT I haven't tried to start the restore because I found on the net somewhere that a guy did the same and the restore was unsuccessful!
Therfor I'd like to be sure that the dumped ROM is OK before I start the restore.
Do you know how to verify the dumped ROM?
Did you try to restore it? Was it succesful?
I'm really interested in what you found out!
Maybe l3v5y can help us too!?
imee.h
Your best bet is to try and restore the backup, and if it goes wrong, you should get stuck in bootloader, at which point you'll have to flash a new ROM. You can dump the devices ROM to your computer (using pdocread, or the easier to use aWizard tool), which will allow you to reconstruct and reflash the ROM.
Previously, I just used DCD's pre-cooked ROM and Phone; however, I am considering getting the kitchen and cooking my own ROM. So my questions are:
I believe I can re-flash the phone software if necessary without losing everything on the phone. Correct?
What about the ROM itself? If I reflash it will basically hard reset my phone, correct? i.e. I will lose all my data/software. So how does everyone keep from having to reload everything every time they reflash? Would using Resco Backup allow me to restore stuff and not mess up the newly flashed ROM? If so, what is the procedure?
Thanks!
Chimp (Tom)
SimpTheChimp said:
Previously, I just used DCD's pre-cooked ROM and Phone; however, I am considering getting the kitchen and cooking my own ROM. So my questions are:
I believe I can re-flash the phone software if necessary without losing everything on the phone. Correct?
What about the ROM itself? If I reflash it will basically hard reset my phone, correct? i.e. I will lose all my data/software. So how does everyone keep from having to reload everything every time they reflash? Would using Resco Backup allow me to restore stuff and not mess up the newly flashed ROM? If so, what is the procedure?
Thanks!
Chimp (Tom)
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1. Yes it will keep your Radio ROM intacked so no lose there.
2. Yes it will be like a hard reset. Most use the UC option or a MortScript to reload applications and registry settings. Some good info here.
I just wanted to double check before I do this, but I'm currently running DCD 3.2.3 and need to perform a hard reset (too many test programs installed and removed over time).
I'd like to upgrade to DCD 3.2.5. My plan is to just put it in boot loader mode (the tri-color screen) and run BuildNB.bat to let it reset all the programs with the latest and greatest. At this time I can also re-add back in the games and VPN software that I failed to install during my last install.
Is that basically all that I need to do? Once it comes up, I'll install the carrier cab, reprogram the device and install all my programs back.
Can someone whose done this a few times verify that I got that right?
sharper4 said:
I just wanted to double check before I do this, but I'm currently running DCD 3.2.3 and need to perform a hard reset (too many test programs installed and removed over time).
I'd like to upgrade to DCD 3.2.5. My plan is to just put it in boot loader mode (the tri-color screen) and run BuildNB.bat to let it reset all the programs with the latest and greatest. At this time I can also re-add back in the games and VPN software that I failed to install during my last install.
Is that basically all that I need to do? Once it comes up, I'll install the carrier cab, reprogram the device and install all my programs back.
Can someone whose done this a few times verify that I got that right?
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USB method.
1) Get an activesync connection in WM.
2) Using the kitchen, Run BuildNB.Bat.
3) "Play"... then allow the RomUpdateUtility to run.
That's it. Then do your carrier cab etc.
SD Card Method.
1) Run BuildNB.Bat... "Play"... when RomUpdateUtility comes up... just close it. Find the ROM folder and rename the Ruu_signed.nbh file TITAIMG.nbh. Copy it to your formatted (Fat32) MicroSD card (<=2gb non-SDHC)
2) After copied to card, insert microSD card into phone, then do the "Bootloader" method (Power+Camera+reset)
then follow the prompts. Do your carrier cab... etc.
Thanks for the quick reply. This site absolutely rocks!
and no need to do a hard reset prior, installing a new rom will delete everything that you installed, including your contacts. I would recommend just backing up your essentials
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and no need to do a hard reset prior, installing a new rom will delete everything that you installed, including your contacts. I would recommend just backing up your essentials
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Thanks so much! The install was quick and painless. This ROM is awesome too.
I would like to try some cooked ROMs.
But I fully personalized all the settings in my actual shipped ROM.
I lost so much time to personalize it.
Is there a way to do a full backup or a "dump" of the internal memory as it is now?
Or there is a good backup program that FULLY backup all settings? (not only documents, contacts, messages, etc... but also registry, program settings, etc...).
So if I want to go back to my actual ROM, I reflash it then I restore the "dump" to get back all my old settings?
Thanks to all for your help!
Read here for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424805&highlight=Dump
And please search in the future.
Ta
Dave
I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
parallel666killer said:
I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
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It save's the current state IIRC.
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Dave
No, it doesn't save the current state, only the installation files of the ROM.
I created the dump and I created ruu_signed.nbh.
I flashed ROMeOS, then I flashed back my created ROM.
All settings and programs are gone.
I think I didn't well explained what I would like to know.
I mean if it is possible to create a flash nbh file with the ROM backup (and this can be done, there are many thread about, I tried too and I succedeed), but also a full backup of ALL INSTALLED PROGRAMS IN THE INTERNAL STORAGE (programs I installed, no default ROM programs), all settings (TouchFLO3D settings and customization, phone settings,etc...), registry and system data.
As SBP Backup does.
And also avoid hard-reset restart after flashing that nbh file.
So the phone starts directly the first time normally.
What there is in the Part03.raw which is 330Mb?
The dimension is near the available internal storage.
I dont think it quite works like that.
I think your best bet is to build your own rom with your own settings and apps, AFAIK this is the only way to have the phone exactly as your want it after first boot.
Also have a look at SASHIMI, you may be able to get the results you want using that, although something seems to have happened to the thread pro tem.
Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
Just in case you you havnt seen it:-
What you want the Raphael Kitchen, its an awesome package that lets mere mortals build their own perfect rom.
parallel666killer said:
Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
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SASHIMI 7.7 is now available. The new location is here