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Is this (WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar) newer then this
(WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM)
getting confuse.
I have a few question, please advise me.
1. extracted either files, and found that there is no (ms_) and (Radio_)
is this normal ?
2. i saw Radio 1.7.
Do i need to put Radio 1.7 together with NK.nbf and HimaUpgradeUt.
3. As for Protocol
Do i need to grab from the WM2003SE upgrade files?
I have read Wiki, but it did not mention about Radio 1.7 and Protocol
please guide me.
keithhiap said:
Is this (WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar) newer then this
(WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM)
getting confuse.
I have a few question, please advise me.
1. extracted either files, and found that there is no (ms_) and (Radio_)
is this normal ?
2. i saw Radio 1.7.
Do i need to put Radio 1.7 together with NK.nbf and HimaUpgradeUt.
3. As for Protocol
Do i need to grab from the WM2003SE upgrade files?
I have read Wiki, but it did not mention about Radio 1.7 and Protocol
please guide me.
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WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar :shock:
to my knowledge g could be newer than f the one in the full ram version, so this potantially could be newer, as for the files ms & radio they have to be in the same folder as NK, regarding the protocol i have no idea what do you mean so please explain further
Basically, i am trying to claify by comparing WM2003SE files.
You see, when you extract WM2003SE, you will see 3 files (MS, NK and radio) right?
And in WM2005, you only see 1 (NK).
So, by my understanding, there is no Radio, and MS(in this case, this is protocol) in WM2005
Does it means that do i need to copy Radio 1.7 FTP: xda:xda and (MS) from WM2003SE into WM2005 folder?
pardon my english.
i see the screenshot for WM2005, and it has the radio 1.7 and protocol 1337.38
this really confusing me
Also reading the upgrading procedure. is just use patch 1, patching the NK files
then use ERedit and change the operator
this leads me that this file is only for OS.
So, as for radio and protocol (here i means , MS and radio), it is copy individual from different files and place it into the folder WM2005(here i mean going to upgrade)
thanks
by the way, this file WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar is only 6.08MB, which is smaller then WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM (23MB)
Huh, I downloaded it and my rar file was 23695Kb, the extracted NK.nbf was 32769Kb.
I need my device at the moment so I dare not risk the upgrade at the moment. If anyone has performed the upgrade please post a line if it was successful.
cheers
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
buzz_lightyear said:
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
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Buzz,
what are the enhancements done on it ?
Btw thanks you for the hard work once again...
buzz_lightyear said:
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
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Thnx Buzz, I just did the upgrade, no problems.. seems more stable... at least after running it for 5 minutes :wink:
Changes.log
Buzz,
Great and awesome work as usual
Just wondering if you can post a changes log or something so we can see any updates / changes you guru's have made
Just one question, in the final steps when we have to hardreset the pocket it's says format storage, it's internal storage or storage card?
eloco said:
Just one question, in the final steps when we have to hardreset the pocket it's says format storage, it's internal storage or storage card?
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It's the internal storage eloco... Storage Cards ramain the same.
I'm getting reports from Newsmobile.it forum that this "g" version doesn't exposes the whole 128MB RAM amount........... :?:
Perhaps are there some additional steps to do?
I'm getting reports from Newsmobile.it forum that this "g" version doesn't exposes the whole 128MB RAM amount...
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just flashed mine & memory is showing 62.00 for Storage and 56.34 for Program. I can live with 118 if this this image stops sucking my battery dry.
Can you list the differences/improvements?
Is the NAND Disk renaming to Sotrage the only change?
Can you list the differences/improvements?
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I'm still waiting to see an improvement. Even with the slightly newer kernel I still see my battery dropping approx 1% per hour. Maybe that's OK, but with my radio, BT, and IR off I think it should do better than a 25% / day drop. If my radio was on, for 8-12 hours then 25% (maybe 40%) makes sense. I do notice that ActiveSync seems to load itself periodically (which I never saw using WM2K3SE), and I assume my serial port is being energized whenever AS loads. This could account for the power drop, but I'm still observing it. I haven't seen anything I could point to as an improvement.
I was hoping to see an improved video camera and working SMSs... :wink:
Oh well, I'm willing to wait whatever time necessary for better and better releases of BuzzMobile5.0
WoW another version from Buzz.... Buzz can u please whats the diff between the old and the new pls..
i've upgrade my xda with 1.50g, it works just great, with more stability on my device, but still with the minor bug (camera, and record button). i can see the program memory is bigger than the 1.50f, so i can open the 3mb excel file freely. now i can use the wisbar advance 2 without a bug, i think....
gadz, or anybody else with WM5, have you tried Wisbar 2.10.0.29 ? When I tried to run it, it would lock up until I renamed lrgwesex.dll. I'm also experience small graphic hic-ups, is anyone else?
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1977&start=15
Hi fellas.
I was wondering if anyone here can see if there's a way to extract the iPAQ audio from hp rw6828 (from the extended ROM, etc) and right into the Atom?
I just tested HP yesterday, and I think it really improves the bass well without cracking up the sound!
Thanks!
audio.cpl file from rw6828
here is the .cpl from rw6828,
i havent got atom to try it on. copy the file to your windows folder then restart. it should be in your setting, system.
i am not able to copy the cpl file. says permission denied.
Thanks klikman!
The file is in "hidden" status, and which is why you can't copy it through activeSync. I copied it onto my miniSD card through an external writer, then used Recso explorer (with "show hidden files" setting) and copied it onto Windows folder.
The icon appears under settings, but your settings are not saved when you open it up next. Importantly, the audio controls don't work at all. It's merely a control panel, which seems to be controlling something which is still missing Perhaps something more to be extracted from the iPaq? Any idea how to view the extended ROM? it might be there.
probably a few .dll files
can you U/L the HP rom, i wanna try to install it my Atom.
audio file from ipaq rom
using card export in atom, you ll be able to see the extended rom, but in ipaq, we cant. my guess is there's no extended rom
the main memory size in ipaq 6828 is 58.5MB compared to atom, only 43 mb or so.
the extended rom in ipaq is merged with the main memory, 58.5MB!!!!!! that's the biggest compared of all pda phones.
whats atom's total program memory size? in ipaq, got 52.4mb.
here i upload all audio files from ipaq 6828. try it on
Copied the 2 dll files into windows directory.
Does not work
Re: audio file from ipaq rom
klikman said:
using card export in atom, you ll be able to see the extended rom, but in ipaq, we cant. my guess is there's no extended rom
the main memory size in ipaq 6828 is 58.5MB compared to atom, only 43 mb or so.
the extended rom in ipaq is merged with the main memory, 58.5MB!!!!!! that's the biggest compared of all pda phones.
whats atom's total program memory size? in ipaq, got 52.4mb.
here i upload all audio files from ipaq 6828. try it on
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They have absolutly same ROM & RAM size,unlock hiden partition on Atom and you'll get missed 16.5mb,43+16=59mb.After all its exactly same devices inside.
I guess the whole audio player has to be exported. Thats the application that does the sound effects.
Why stop there? I'd love to see if it's possible to use the HP ROM on an Atom, and if there's anything to gain by it!
Well id personally like to put the Atom ROM on my RW6828.
The HP ROM has a few issues that need address, mainly just performance with games and unlocking the speaker to go louder would be nice.
I want to try this but if I was to attempt to put the Atom ROM on the HP wouldnt I just get an 'incorrect device' error?
Probably. But you could try entering bootloader mode before you try. That may help.
Well I cant try anything until HP release a ROM Update anyway, because I dont believe there is any download links to the default ROM.
All a matter of patience I guess, no doubt theres someone else out there with a 6828 thinking the same thing...
UPDATED NOVEMBER 11, 2007
SIM TOOLKIT MINOR FIX: 20070927B3WWE
Download 8PP: megaupload | rapidshare | mediafire
Download 6PP: megaupload (thanks homer285!)
REPORT:
Hebrew Support known to work!
Thai-G fully working!
CE Star fully working!
UPDATED NOVEMBER 10, 2007
BUG FIXES: OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7a.0)
2nd Boot Screen Fix
Backlight Icon Fix
Boot Phase Modification
Catalog Marketplace (removed)
Certificate Installation Issues (BIG THANKS TO HELMI_C)
Contacts 3x Open Freeze Fix
Default IM Selection Fix
HTC Home Plugin (removed)
HTC Intellipad Dialer (removed)
HTTPS website fix (tested on one site only)
Internet Caching Lag Fix
O2 Album Update to WM6
O2 Image Editor Update to WM6
SPB Pocket Plus 4.0 install fix
SIM Manager Update (untested)
SIM Toolkit Fix (SIM contacts will display again)
Services Quality Monitoring (removed)
Start Menu Sound Fix
System Enchancement Tweaks (too many to mention)
VOIP Modules (removed-not working properly)
Windows Live 10.6.0032.2100 update
WiFi Self-On Fix
WM5torage 1.75 Upgrade
WM5 Bluetooth Drivers / A2DP
XIP Core Upgrade
ROM: 20070927B2WWE
DOWNLOAD: megaupload | rapidshare
Additional Note: It has been brought to our attention that some users flash TEST ROMs and ask support for third party apps. This UNOFFICIAL ROM is still under development and you can't expect support from it. If you can't afford to have a buggy phone, this is not for you. By flashing this TEST ROM, it means you are willing to take the risks, solve any bugs encountered yourself and report problems to this forum.
HOW TO REPORT A PROBLEM:
1. INDICATE ROM VERSION
2. DEVICE AGE / PURCHASE DATE OF ATOM
3. SOFTWARE INSTALLED (STATE THE SEQUENCE)
4. STATE THE PROBLEM
5. HOW TO ARRIVE AT THE PROBLEM (SCREEN SHOTS WOULD HELP)
6. IF SOLUTION IS FOUND, PLEASE SHARE
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UPDATED SEPTEMBER 29, 2007
NOT FOR ATOM EXEC NOR HP6800 SERIES.
(Some people never read; thus, the large text)
Major Bugs from AKU0.3.0 Fixed! except VOIP. miniSDHC support!!!
Version:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional AKU0.7.0
CE OS 5.2.1413(18508.0.7.0)
DOWNLOAD For XDA Atom / Atom Pure ONLY:
4MB PAGEPOOL : 54.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire | megaupload | rapidshare |
6MB PAGEPOOL : 52.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire | megaupload | rapidshare |
8MB PAGEPOOL : 50.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire | megaupload | rapidshare |
NOTE: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DOWNLOAD AGAIN, YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAGEPOOL YOURSELF. INSTRUCTIONS HERE
Thank you, ironeagle, for the rest of the links!!!
ROM Revisions:
Please see System Info under Settings for a summary of revisions. Place all your favorite CAB installers on your SDCard inside \cab\ folder. The original AutoInstall feature has been completely replaced by an AutoInstall script by serialzs for full device customization. O2 connect has been removed including O2 update (when was the last time we had an update from O2?) Built-in SPB GPRS has been removed because it is incompatible with system version.
Upgrade Procedure:
1. Put device to bootloader mode: (CAMERA+RESET)
2. Connect device to PC under Windows XP using USB cable
3. Run the executable ATOMWM607...EXE
4. Follow on-screen procedure
Reported Bugs and/or Incompatibility:
CE Star
Bluetooth PAN - not supported yet
O2 PhonePlus conflicts with smart dialing feature of WM6
Ringo
Spb Phone Suite / Mobile Suite
Known to Work Fully:
Internet Sharing over USB
Intellidialer (PhonePad)
Resco Explorer 2007
Spb Mobile Shell (latest edition)
Acknowledgements:
I would like to extend a very special thanks to cmonex for giving valuable support to ROM porting. helmi_c for opening new horizons for the Atom. buzz_lightyear for his unending support.
For the great tools:
1. mamaich IMGFS tools
2. scoter community for the Scoter Kitchen
3. bepe's unique tools
4. serialzs custom DSUU and romtoolz
For all the beta testers who gave valuable feedback... and everyone else who have helped and I failed to mention.
and to my friend- Simon
Special Note:
This is NOT an OFFICIAL ROM. You can not expect support from O2 by bringing in your device with this ROM. Neither should you contact them for support on this ROM. By downloading and upgrading your device with this ROM, you agree to the considerable risk of bricking your device; and that I can not be held liable for damage brought about by the usage of this ROM.
Jiggs
Side Note: This will not SIM unlock or change your mobile serial no. (IMEI) in any way. You can flash back to original ROM anytime! Do not attempt to flash this on ATOM EXEC! If you get COUNTRY ID ERROR, you did not follow steps above. Do NOT restore from spb / sprite full backup, this will overwrite system files and make your device unstable; worse, unusable.
NEVER ATTEMPT TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE USING SD CARD FLASHING!!!
Official XDA Atom WM5 AKU2.2 WWE Thanks MightyOX!
To everyone who tested this ROM:
When I say this is for evaluation only, it means you are to test this ROM. It is not a perfect ROM. We will never know the bugs unless it is subjected to different scenarios. You can not also expect to have every solution to every problem encountered in this ROM. You can, however, do your part and contribute by finding a solution yourselves. I cannot do this alone, and this is not the only thing I do. I posted this ROM to share with everyone else, and get to enjoy more features for our neglected device. If you are not contented, you can always go back to the previous ROM of your choice. We are not forcing you to use this ROM. Please don't make demands here...
Jiggs
Good work!!! Make this ROM for Atom exec support miniSDHC...
Is this the same as the one you PM'd me with? <.<
I'm still going to test the beta to see if the SDHC drivers work, tho.
What is the difference between various page pool sizes. How do I decide which one I need.
Ultimate Chicken said:
Is this the same as the one you PM'd me with? <.<
I'm still going to test the beta to see if the SDHC drivers work, tho.
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more or less... hope SDHC works! only some minor changes. I had to change pagepool to have different program memory requirements. been using 4mb since yesterday, graphics is lagging but processing power is still the same result as per benchmarking.
Thanks again JIGGS....your update is keep on coming , blessing from you for our atom.. MANY THANKS
yes right, can you explain to us the pagepool differences? which is better of this 3?
JUST A REMINDER GUYS...so no one will have a dead ATOM!
NEVER ATTEMPT TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE USING SD CARD FLASHING!!!
Can I run the old extended rom setup on this??
generalriden said:
Thanks again JIGGS....your update is keep on coming , blessing from you for our atom.. MANY THANKS
yes right, can you explain to us the pagepool differences? which is better of this 3?
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I can't tell you which is better. You have to try it. Different users have different requirements. It's a trade off between graphics speed and available program memory. processing speed is not affected by it based on my benchmarking tests.
Mirror needed
Any1 can provide a mirror on megaupload or wikiupload?
Thx!
PS: Jiggs, very nice job!
DOWNLOAD For XDA Atom / Atom Pure ONLY:
4MB PAGEPOOL : 54.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire |---->SO THIS ONE HAVE THE BIGGEST FREE PROGRAM RAM AVAILABLE? AM I RIGHT JIGGS? THANKS... i just want to clarify everything..
6MB PAGEPOOL : 52.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire |
8MB PAGEPOOL : 50.4MB Program Memory : | mediafire |
I don't advise you to sacrifice too much pagepool for program memory, tho - WRT experience from the WM5 builds, a large pagepool actually speeds up your device. If you don't wish for the Atom 1st Gen ROM experience (and, given that the unit I own used to belong to my first adopter sister, I'm well familiar with that), take the 6MB PP at least.
By the way, folks, I have "moved" my "sig". For great justice. ^_^
By the way: You know those default program cabs Jiggs puts into the extROM? It's safe to delete them if you don't intend to install them (you must install the extROM unlock first, however). Just as long as you don't touch anything that doesn't look like an official program install or directory, you should be safe - and you get to use your extROM as an install location. Hard reset and soft reset still works correctly without them around, so if you plan to use your extROM and need the real estate, go right on ahead.
(I wonder what happens if I hard reset with a custom cab in there... tho I'm a little too lazy to reinstall everything right now.)
Any chance of an update for the o2 atom exec?
Ultimate Chicken said:
I don't advise you to sacrifice too much pagepool for program memory, tho - WRT experience from the WM5 builds, a large pagepool actually speeds up your device. If you don't wish for the Atom 1st Gen ROM experience (and, given that the unit I own used to belong to my first adopter sister, I'm well familiar with that), take the 6MB PP at least.
By the way, folks, I have "moved" my "sig". For great justice. ^_^
By the way: You know those default program cabs Jiggs puts into the extROM? It's safe to delete them if you don't intend to install them (you must install the extROM unlock first, however). Just as long as you don't touch anything that doesn't look like an official program install or directory, you should be safe - and you get to use your extROM as an install location. Hard reset and soft reset still works correctly without them around, so if you plan to use your extROM and need the real estate, go right on ahead.
(I wonder what happens if I hard reset with a custom cab in there... tho I'm a little too lazy to reinstall everything right now.)
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contrary to our experience in WM5, WM6 didn't suffer as much LAG as it did during the past. In fact, I'm still using the 4MB without any complaints. I don't know for others who play games on their ATOM....
How's SDHC my friend? working?
Ultimate Chicken said:
I don't advise you to sacrifice too much pagepool for program memory, tho - WRT experience from the WM5 builds, a large pagepool actually speeds up your device. If you don't wish for the Atom 1st Gen ROM experience (and, given that the unit I own used to belong to my first adopter sister, I'm well familiar with that), take the 6MB PP at least.
By the way, folks, I have "moved" my "sig". For great justice. ^_^
By the way: You know those default program cabs Jiggs puts into the extROM? It's safe to delete them if you don't intend to install them (you must install the extROM unlock first, however). Just as long as you don't touch anything that doesn't look like an official program install or directory, you should be safe - and you get to use your extROM as an install location. Hard reset and soft reset still works correctly without them around, so if you plan to use your extROM and need the real estate, go right on ahead.
(I wonder what happens if I hard reset with a custom cab in there... tho I'm a little too lazy to reinstall everything right now.)
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THANKS for the advice bro..maybe i will try to see the difference of both. One of my friend will install a different pagepool and we will compare.
adtl advice, just copy those cabs you will erase to your SD card then maybe oneday, someone or you may need it ;-)
davidw89 said:
Any chance of an update for the o2 atom exec?
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I have commissioned chartreux to do it. After all, he has the device to test the build. I wouldn't want to risk another davidw89 if you know what I mean.
Extended Rom
Actually, you don't need to unhide the Hidden Partition. You just need Total Commander and key in \_QHiddenPartition\ and perform normal operation (copy, delete, etc.)
jiggs said:
contrary to our experience in WM5, WM6 didn't suffer as much LAG as it did during the past. In fact, I'm still using the 4MB without any complaints. I don't know for others who play games on their ATOM....
How's SDHC my friend? working?
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for me, i will just play heavy games on my PSP..hehehe better.. ATOM is a PDA for me and a mobile. only if im waiting someone , i will play pacman or bomberman on my atom, bowling maybe or chess, thats it..
guys, those WHO ARE PLAYING USING THEIR ATOM, please install 4mb pagepool and give us a feedback.
meh.........................
thanks again jiggs.........
I have created a simple front end to Paradis_Pals change page pool through activesync method. This was done as an experiment, but seeming as it works, I thought I may as well let others use it.
Thanks to Korand for patching the batch files.
Download and unzip the files to anywhere.
Connect your device with activesync
Run l3v5y Change PP.exe.
Select the PagePool you want.
Wait a few seconds.
Soft reset your device.
Download (Change PP for WM6, WM6.1 for WM6.1 devices):
Below
Skydrive
thanks im going to try it as soon as i can...
console output:
>"pdocwrite" "6.nb" 0x36855A
3 partitions, 2 binary partitions
customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 20 2a 02 04 15 39 11 1e 15 0b 05 b8
CopyFileToTFFS(6.nb:0, 36855a, 00000001)
but nothing happend.. how i check if pagepool is changed? Settings->System Info -> memory??
great job my friend i will try
how i check if pagepool is changed? Settings->System Info -> memory??
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Or
Setting, About???
Thanks...
Is Change PP E-ten X500+ compatible (WM6)? Tested?
What "rake" I have or will have?
Suitable for HTC Prophet only at the moment.
i'm new to all this...could you explaing what Page Pool is and benefits of its increasing?
Di-Ma-Z said:
i'm new to all this...could you explaing what Page Pool is and benefits of its increasing?
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Copied from here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
The Page Pool
Applications use RAM in two ways. There is code that runs, and there is data that is created while it is running. On a NOR device, the code can run directly from the ROM and not be loaded into RAM first. This process is called XIP (eXecute In Place). NAND devices can't XIP, so their code is loaded into RAM and executed from there. If you don't have a Page Pool, this code is loaded into normal RAM. The Page Pool is a mechanism to limit how much code is loaded into normal RAM. With a Page Pool, we can unload code that hasn't been used in a while and reload it later if we need to. We can't do that without a Page Pool.
LordDeath said:
Copied from here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
The Page Pool
Applications use RAM in two ways. There is code that runs, and there is data that is created while it is running. On a NOR device, the code can run directly from the ROM and not be loaded into RAM first. This process is called XIP (eXecute In Place). NAND devices can't XIP, so their code is loaded into RAM and executed from there. If you don't have a Page Pool, this code is loaded into normal RAM. The Page Pool is a mechanism to limit how much code is loaded into normal RAM. With a Page Pool, we can unload code that hasn't been used in a while and reload it later if we need to. We can't do that without a Page Pool.
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Please tell me which size of Page Pool is best for HTC Prophet?
thanks so much
I can tell you only my personal experience:
Compared to the previous 8MiB Pagepool on my device the 4MiB Pagepool is not slower, but I have more free memory.
The bigger the Page pool, the more programs you can run at the same time without the system being dodgy. You have less RAM available for your programs though.
6MB should be enough in both ways (free ram and amount of apps you can start simultaneously) If not, try 8MB.
You can go up, but only if you have more than 64 MB of ram in your device, then it won't hurt to have more Page pool imho.
helllo, I'm new in the world of the cooking, and i want change PP on WM6.1 on the OS.nb or MyRom.nbh
A solution exists for this release of Windows Mobile ??
Sincerely
Is it for a prophet ROM? as far as I can remember, the prophet uses *.nbf...
You should be able to use this with nb2nbf program, but I'll need to find the start address...
edit: start address is: 0x58956...
Sorry, i've don't see that this section isn't good, I've a HTC elf and not a prophet !
But I don't find for Elf !
Something is wrong...
I wanted my PagePool to 4MB...but at least i only have 44MB RAM instead og 52MB...
6MB PagePool is working fine...
Can you please fix the 4MB-Problem?!
I think that means it has flashed the wrong PagePool size. I shall see what is wrong, and try to fix it as soon as I can.
l3v5y said:
I think that means it has flashed the wrong PagePool size. I shall see what is wrong, and try to fix it as soon as I can.
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Thanks a lot
One quick thought: Prophet Tools (link in my signature) has the WM6.1 page pool settings. See if that works for you and if not I'll check that out as well.
l3v5y said:
One quick thought: Prophet Tools (link in my signature) has the WM6.1 page pool settings. See if that works for you and if not I'll check that out as well.
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Oh...this is a great tool
But i can do what i want....my RAM is not more then 50MB...and this is the result when flashing the PagePool to 6MB...
But i want to have to Flash the PagePool to 4MB, so that i have 52MB RAM
Please fix this...thanks...
26/04/08 Update: some "i dislike" solved, check AP4 FAQ for solutions, Tips and Tricks
I am trying to open this thread to help AP cookers to have a single point to check for pro and cons in AP4, avoiding to post BUGS here.
Please explain WHY you dislike something
I've tested it for a while and:
I LIKE:
better battery life in my regular usage
the self portrait/landscape function
touchflo responce (after some tuning)
WM6.1 (SMS and IE)
Latest opera
Stability
I DISLIKE
The BIG htc home (to much home screen real estate used), and resources hungry too! (FULL SOLVED BELOW, 4th post)
The new USB Storage can't show the microdrive (PARTIALLY SOLVED BELOW, 4th post)
The slow keyboard responce (I've installed RESCO too, same delays) (FULL SOLVED BELOW, 4th post)
The comm manager without 3g enable/disable (good for battery saving purposes)
The flashing process, without any user control (I've copied the file unzipped during the installation process and i've dome some "reverse enigineering") I believe it could be done using a simpler command file, from command prompt windows, explaining step by step what is going on. Less "tricolours screen" and better debugging
sergiopi said:
I am trying to open this thread to help AP cookers to have a single point to chek for pro and cons in AP4, avoiding to post BUGS here.
Please explain WHY you dislike something
I've tested it for a while and:
I LIKE:
better battery life in my regular usage
the self portrait/landscape function
touchflo responce (after some tuning)
WM6.1 (SMS and IE)
Latest opera
Stability
I DISLIKE
The BIG htc home (to much home screen real estate used), and resources hungry too!
The new USB Storage can't show the microdrive
The slow keyboard responce (I've installed RESCO too, same delays)
The comm manager without 3g enable/disable (good for battery saving purposes)
The flashing process, without any user control (I've copied the file unzipped during the installation process and i've dome some "reverse enigineering") I believe it could be done using a simpler command file, from command prompt windows, explaining step by step what is going on. Less "tricolours screen" and better debugging
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thanx for the opinions and feedback. for the slow keyboard response i would try the tweak that turns off the et9. its found in the main thread and will come in the new version of the config app.
the comm mananger was already in the x7510 rom so i just kept it as it is. i see though that it would be a good idea to add the 3g. i need to check if this comm mananger supports changing its function like the one i have in my polaris rom. then i could just have cmonex add a new tab to the config app where u check what options you like in the comm mananger.
i believe the usb to pc tool when turned on to mass storage mode lets you add to the microdrive.
the big htc home can be replaced with the smaller qvga one via the addons rar.
the flash process you would need to discuss with olipro/cmonex. i though believe its as simple as possible right now but i could be wrong.
A problem, for my important one, is that it occupies much memory. It is to say..., in my single country exist maps for GARMIN XT and if I install MANILA to him DIALER does not load GARMIN to me XT by lack of memory, if I install plugins to him in the TODAY does not load the GARMIN to me by lack of memory...
in the AP3 no....
Some Dislike Solved
1. Big HTC Home
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2053447&postcount=2
download addons.rar
unrar and install HTCHome_1025_721_ALL.cab
FASTER, also in portrait/landscape switching!
2. USB to Storage and Microdrive
Miletb suggest to change:
HLKM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\Mass_Storage_Clas s\DeviceName from DSK2:
to
DSK1:
it will work fine - transfer speed is also good
If you want storage card later you will need to change back to DSK2:
3. SLOW KB FEEDBACK:
PAWEL sugges to to change:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"="eT9 IME"
"Ime File"="\\windows\\eT9ime.dll"
to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"="COMP IME"
"Ime File"="compime.dll"
this will fix 1)the suggestions dialog in sms/emails being missing 2)the accented characters 3)the slow Kb feedback
P.S. To reduce/cancel the TT landscape/portrait switching during driving, just tune the position of the gooseneck support. It is stable in my tests in landscape mode leaving the top 2 cm backward from the bottom (the top is closer to the windscreen). I drive a Nissan Pathfinder http://www.nissanusa.com/pathfinder/ and my tests were really HARD
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[*]The flashing process, without any user control (I've copied the file unzipped during the installation process and i've dome some "reverse enigineering") I believe it could be done using a simpler command file, from command prompt windows, explaining step by step what is going on. Less "tricolours screen" and better debugging
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sorry but I doubt what you did can be called "reverse engineering"
exactly what is your suggestion anyway? is the way HTC wrote ROMUpdateUtility.exe not good enough for you? or what did you mean, please elaborate.
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sorry but I doubt what you did can be called "reverse engineering"
exactly what is your suggestion anyway? is the way HTC wrote ROMUpdateUtility.exe not good enough for you? or what did you mean, please elaborate.
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Reverse engineering in simple words means to use tools to monitor the program execution, dump the memory used, the data flow trought the USB port, then to have a team analyzing all the info and trying to understand what's going on (and I have time, tools, and team)
I mean the process control. RUU is just a PART of the AP4 flashing process. If I want to flash AP4 again I can't do without flashing the SPL again.
You've built a new tool, NOT a plain RUU. AP3 new version is a plain RUU, AP4 IMHO is a batch process launching RUU, undocumented
I like to have a clear view of the processes, is hard to ask to HTC to show their processes, and you and olipro (and some others, POF is great too..) have done a good job in RUU reverse engineeering (RUU is a batch process too, from HTC...). I would like to have the AP4 .exe documented, having also the view of the .nbh and of the other tools used. May be others can build a new ROM to share, based on the new partitioned ATHENA!
The ATHENA flashed with your tool now is the WORST ATHENA in the world
1) no warranty, no way to go back
2) the only ROM available are AP3 and AP4. None can put a new ROM on it!
3) no official ROMs anymore
4) no "self cooked" ROMs anymore
PRACTICALLY SPEAKING IS NEEDED:
1) a simple tool to go back
AND/OR
2) a clear documentation of the changes done and the tools used
BTW I respect your good job, a tuned AP4 is a good ROM, and we are here to help ATHENA/AP4 to be the best device (and to play with knowledge)
3G button in comm manager solved
Just use schap's advanced configuration tool and ADD it Download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367043
I've removed the push e-mail button because the AP4 comm mgr default layout can have 6 buttons only, and I've added the 3G on/off.
The tool could be "device customized" shoul be nice to have an ATHENA version....
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Just use schap's advanced configuration tool and ADD it Download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367043
I've removed the push e-mail button because the AP4 comm mgr default layout can have 6 buttons only, and I've added the 3G on/off.
The tool could be "device customized" shoul be nice to have an ATHENA version....
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so i guess i have the comm mananger in there that u can set what items you want in it. hehe ok there will 100% be a 4.1 I think that will be finally what people wanted from 4.0 and i'll make this one a public beta first so we wont have any issues like 4.0
thanks for your post, I might have previously misunderstand your word usage of RE. so what did you do exactly?
because you people were so impatient we just released AP4 and a flasher, if you all had waited patiently, you'd have got it with extras, such as AP4 vanilla (not requiring new SPL), a standalone AP4 full feature rom (with special NBH header so only new SPL will accept it so no risks!!), and a downgrader utility.
but you will get those anyway just wait a bit more patiently.
until then, if you have an urgent warranty problem and *must asap* downgrade to stock ROM, just let me know in a PM.
also, you are a bit wrong about flashing the SPL again - the AP4 flasher checks if you already got SPL 3.50 on, if you do have 3.50 then it will not reflash the SPL (as that would be pointless as we can agree).
what kind of documentation do you need of the AP4 flasher?
here's what it does:
1. you run the athenaupdater exe, it seems to be waiting for something while it extracts itsutils (pmemdump and stuff)
2. the something is to determine if the Athena is running WM or is put in bootloader (if some moron doesn't read the excellent HowTo a link to which is included at the athenaupdater download) - it does it in the following way: attempts to push pmemdump to the athena, if that fails then after 1 min of waiting it'll error out and shows you the ****sticks message
3. if it finds the athena running WM then it also checks the bootloader version by reading a fixed memory location. then compares bootloader version to 3.50, if it is 3.50 then it won't flash the new spl, if it is not 3.50 (can safely assume it is below 3.50) then launches RUU which then launches SSPL (named version 3.15 and will only accept signed SPL's, signed by public htcdevs cert) as the enterbootloader.exe
otherwise just launches RUU with normal enterbootloader and the overwrite protection of the SPL 3.50 won't let the SPL in the big NBH flash.
4. the NBH flashes and the athena is supposed to nicely reboot to AP4.
if you cancel the process you can be left with corrupt wifi/modelid.
+1: for extra safety the NBH has the special header already so no moron can flash it to SPL 1.20 if they manage to quickly put the device in bootloader after the pmemdump check ran.
well I think that's it.
one last question, what was the note about no self cooked roms?
it is entirely possible, you can take the nk.exe module either from AP4 or from AP3newSPL (or use AP3newSPL as base if you are afraid of xip) and use that to make your rom compatible with the new SPL.
and there'll be a downgrade tool anyway.
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The tool could be "device customized" shoul be nice to have an ATHENA version....
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yeah why not, if someone tells me exactly what options from that config app I should port to my config app
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yeah why not, if someone tells me exactly what options from that config app I should port to my config app
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May be the best solution could be to build XML config file with AP4 cheats and import it into the Shaps default tool.
There are may tweaks in the "basic" tool usefull for AP4 too. Comm manager buttons and many others.
You have a great knowledge about AP4 and about the tweaks used, the fine tuning could be done using the Shaps tool, customized with your XML file as explained
From Schaps
(...) But things changed since 2.x releases, now you can add your own tweaks or translate Advanced Config. by yourself using XML files!
(...)
XML configuration files are named AdvancedConfig_XXXX.xml where XXXX is Locale ID (English and French available at the moment). They contain list of registry tweaks organized by categories.
Here is XML configuration file structure, which is quite simple:
Code:
<advancedconfig>
<category name="Category name" icon="Icon index">
<setting key="Registry key path" name="Registry value name" type="Registry value type">
<title>Tweak title</title>
<description>Tweak description</description>
<values default="Default value">
<value data="Value data 1">Value description 1</value>
<value data="Value data 2">Value description 1</value>
</values>
<restrict>
<value key="Registry key path" />
<value key="Registry key path" name="Registry value name"/>
<value key="Registry key path" name="Registry value name" data="Value data" />
<value key="Registry key path" name="Registry value name" data1="Value data 1" data2="Value data 2" data3="Value data 3" />
<devices>
<model>Device model 1</model>
<model>Device model 2</model>
</devices>
</restrict>
</setting>
</category>
</advancedconfig>Supported value types : integer, string, file, folder.
<values> tag can contain predefined value data for the tweak, which will be displayed in a list in Advanced Config.
<restrict> tag allows you to display the tweak only if it satisfies all the conditions bellow. In this example: Registry key must exist AND Registry value must exist AND value data must equal to specified data AND value data must equal one of those 3 value data AND device model must be one of those 2 models.
Don't hesitate to ask me if something is not enough clear.
You can download here English and French XML configuration files of the lastest Advanced Config. release (2.1.0.0), which is available in this sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070.
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because you people were so impatient we just released AP4 and a flasher, if you all had waited patiently, you'd have got it with extras, such as AP4 vanilla (not requiring new SPL), a standalone AP4 full feature rom (with special NBH header so only new SPL will accept it so no risks!!), and a downgrader utility.
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Thank you, for the complete answer and the really interesting schedule
I am patient, as I told in other 3ds, and as many of us I like to play with WM6 knowledge.
I will suggest just a change in the schedule: Downgrader first, Vanilla second and AP4.1 (I've seen a lot of interesting improvements suggested from other users) third
So far these are my finding,
I LIKE:
1. the HTC and Athena Project logo - beautiful
2. the self portrait/landscape function – a little jumpy therefore disable it
3. touchflo response – excellence now I can brake
4. WM6.1 – no comments
5. Latest opera though not as responsive as IE, still trying hard diplomatically.
6. Stability – yes, as good as AP3
7. mic reception – great improvement compare to AP3, not sure is becuz of radio change, handfree call effortlessly
8. speed and memory – no issue so far with all my favorite sw running.
9. splash screen – beautifully done
10. HTC home – best with “ HTCHome_1025_721_ALL
11. AP 4.0 HTC X-Button – wonderful to kill background sw
12. WOW HD Setting – greatly improve audio quality in speaker and earpiece
13. GPS fix – better than before, could be due to radio version
14. Bluetooth - discovered range improved with my S705, never from AP3 or radio 1.50
sergiopi said:
Thank you, for the complete answer and the really interesting schedule
I am patient, as I told in other 3ds, and as many of us I like to play with WM6 knowledge.
I will suggest just a change in the schedule: Downgrader first, Vanilla second and AP4.1 (I've seen a lot of interesting improvements suggested from other users) third
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we're considering this suggestion already
...and fourth is AP5! (yes we already have new interesting plans for that but shhhh for now )
sergiopi said:
1. Big HTC Home
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2053447&postcount=2
download addons.rar
unrar and install HTCHome_1025_721_ALL.cab
FASTER, also in portrait/landscape switching!
2. USB to Storage and Microdrive
Miletb suggest to change:
HLKM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\Mass_Storage_Clas s\DeviceName from DSK2:
to
DSK1:
it will work fine - transfer speed is also good
If you want storage card later you will need to change back to DSK2:
3. SLOW KB FEEDBACK:
PAWEL sugges to to change:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"="eT9 IME"
"Ime File"="\\windows\\eT9ime.dll"
to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"="COMP IME"
"Ime File"="compime.dll"
this will fix 1)the suggestions dialog in sms/emails being missing 2)the accented characters 3)the slow Kb feedback
P.S. To reduce/cancel the TT landscape/portrait switching during driving, just tune the position of the gooseneck support. It is stable in my tests in landscape mode leaving the top 2 cm backward from the bottom (the top is closer to the windscreen). I drive a Nissan Pathfinder http://www.nissanusa.com/pathfinder/ and my tests were really HARD
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Awsome
Would someone organise this in the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena_AP4_FAQ
is4 said:
Awsome
Would someone organise this in the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena_AP4_FAQ
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Wiki updated with GPS best setting, PAWEL's Ftouchflo cab and et9 fix, CMONEX's AP4 installer info, HTC home fix and some others....
I will suggest to READ and WRITE the wiki....
READ and WRITE the wiki
sergiopi said:
Wiki updated with GPS best setting, PAWEL's Ftouchflo cab and et9 fix, CMONEX's AP4 installer info, HTC home fix and some others....
I will suggest to READ and WRITE the wiki....
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thanks sergiopi
I appreciated your recent postings about the htc home alternatives and the trick about refinding a lost microdrive
I also recommend to others to READ and WRITE the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena_AP4_FAQ
Can't help myself
This thread is one of the most useful (meaning: if the info's not in here I have found it from what is here) about a ROM I have ever read.
More than that, I saw lots of potential for heated defensiveness, but somewhere that energy got sucked up (I hope it got burned off in the right place). I can't tell you how personally edifying it was for me to read such a grown-up and intelligent conversation in this forum.
I'm glad I have a x7501. Thanks.