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Hello!
i have upgraded my rom to 4.00.11 from lumpistefans kitchen....dis was the best ROM i had ever tried and is alomost with out any bugs....but there is one thing that i think its wrong....sometimes the backlight does not respond to screen taps...??dis is highly usnusual...any one has any solution for dis...?secondly...on wm2003 i get dese wierd horizontal lines in my sms inbox,my notes,pocket word...???is dis a normal feature of wm2003...???
anyone....??
the liners are suppose to be there
suppose ms think it's pretty
never had any issues with the screen not wanting to respond
maybe some program you installed are eating up too much cpu time or something
thanks rudgar...yea i suppose ms thinks its pretty :lol: !!but i ahvent installed ANTHING that can make it slow...is there a known bug in that ROM version...??
dont know i only used the 4.00.10 version from tmobile on my xda1
thank you very much!i really appreciate your help...i guess there is something wrong with the ROM,i cooked it again but the same problem prevails...i have to turn on/off the power to get the backlight back on...can u recommend me a better ROM,which is not of ANY operator (similar to the one i have>4.00.11).
All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
tjohnso1 said:
All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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Your prophet is a QTEKS200?
It is a Neo (O2)
I think the best thing for you is to use WM5 since there are too many known issues with WM6 on the prophet. the most stable ROM I've personally ever used was the shipped ROM from the manufacturer. Otherwise, you should have a good idea of what wm6 rom works for you since you've already tried them all.
I agree with Yellow. If you have to depend on your device for bussiness purposes, don't fool around. If your budget can carry it, find yourself an other for fun!
well, to be fair he only said he'd tried several, not all of them...
I agree with you, though, people should stick with WM5 for now if you/your work depends upon reliable features and rock-solid stability...Having said that, IMO the later WM6's are getting pretty good, general consensus seems to be pdaviet atm although i found fantastic mobiz to be pretty stable too.
I'm also hearing good things about Gullum's efforts...
to be honest I doubt there will ever be a fully bug-free+stable WM6, but then what do I know?*
*answer=not much but I'm learning (thanks to this forum! Cheers everyone! )
i also got the o2 neo, and there are no problems with the newest WM6 RomZ witz freezing or WLAN or whatever. I suggest u try the newest touch releases 4.0.0.6 . if it dosnt fit your needs just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. greetz vince^^
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just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. ^^
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Just wondering if O2 has release an official english version of WM6 somewhere?
I am using my s200 for business to. But as the autor said is funny to play with our gadget. I am using now CrystalV4(personal).I will not say is the best rom here but is the best for my needs. Fast,not many programs inside(The programs are good) but i dont need them. I just want office-some util for maintance-Gps softare & some games.Cube also is great but after sometime it get boring.
So +1 CrystalV4
tjohnso1 said:
All,
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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I use my XDA Neo for work related purposes, too. I use Crystal V4 for about 3 or 4 days now and I have had no problems at all. And it is a very fast and responsive release, too. So this might be worth a try.
My take
I have tried several and found gullm's Touch VIII to be the best allround. It hasn't locked up and battery doesn't drain away. Everything I use seems to work fine.
Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
Riel said:
Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
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Install a safe boot mode and you'll be able to bypass bootscreenlockup and avoid hardreset
Personally, i prefer Mysterious, its been so nice on my o2 neo. no hangup, no freezing, moreover its fast and stable.
but its totaly depends on your way of using prophet.
WM 5 is the safest but I have WM6 touch VIII and its been a few months with very rare soft resets. I do notice that you may also think it has to do with the rom but it really is the radio rom that is causing the freezes. My main rare issue is I cannot hang up the phone when it is linked to my car's bluetooth. This happens once a month.
Mysterious on O2 Neo- GREAT!
I use Mysterious on an O2 Neo with only ONE annoying problem - battery drain! The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Soon the Polaris (P3650) is coming to O2 Germany (called Orbit II) - and I will switch! Until then, my trusted Neo will bet there!
Cheers -
i was using touch 8 for a while then contemplated on whether to upgrade to touch 9, but after following the thread, opted for crystal v4.
v4 is running quite fast & stable at the moment. no hangups or anything.
haven;t tried mysterious or pdaviet at all, so can't really comment on them.
Most stable ROM
Personally i found that Prophet Touch IX is the most stable ROM i am using the same PDA as yours O2 XDA Neo German ROM downgraded to Aku2.2 and then flashed Prophet Touch IX and the device is working fine so far no bugs i have encountered (( i have been using the ROM for about 1 week now )) .
I've stuck with Touch VIII and had less problems with it than IX. Generally it's very, very good.
I prefer Crystal V4 with 4MB pagepool. Runnin SPB PocketPlus 4, HTC Cube, HTC Home, QuickMenu, S2U2, BatteryStatus, Lexisgoo/PocketMusic/SPB Insight/SPB Time/SPB Diary - all integrated into PocketPlus
And stil have 24.5MB of free RAM after loading them all up after a soft reset (and then closing all, ofcourse)
I haven't restarted my fon for 4 days now. And now hav 18.6MB after using IE, ActiveSync and many other pgms.
Its a solid ROM too... thanks to HMA for keeping it clean so that i could fill up wat ever I want
Is anyone actually working on a WM 6.1 ROM with a post-21000 Build Number for ATOM Life ?
I'd really like to be able to use the Rhodium Menu Enhancements (FingerMenu is just not the same) but I find myself unable to cook a ROM on my own.
I tried to register an account on PDAVIET where the ROM comes from i'm using right now, but to no avail as I can't read Vietnamese and Google Translator somehow can't translate it...
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
jadephyre said:
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
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Yes of course almost all of us are now on 6.5 and really happy. Latest 6.5 roms 21728 Lite and 21812 Lite are running on our device better than 6.1. More stable and faster and errorfree. Why dont you try 21812 Lite just released and experience for yourself. I am sure you wont be coming back to 6.1. By the way my device is Atom Life. But there are variations of roms for other devices too...
Dont worry for word "BETA", currently all are tested ok and working well.... Beta in these forum, does not mean they are in developement. They are only ported from latest releases and customized with software bundle. Rest OS is basic and work well for Atom Life or comet you have. See my signature down there, all listed roms are stable and fast and tested ok. Rest I have not mentioned.
No need to reply.... bye
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
jadephyre said:
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
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wm6.5 WAS a battery drainer, but not now. i am using 21812 lite with longer battery time, say 3 days standby and 2 days with phone use. better than 6.0 or 6.1. seems you do not read the post carefully. LITE version does not have titanium and we are using M2D without any problem with moe memory free and longer battery time. Now dont comment without trying it. read my signature too..
Alright, I tried it, and went back to WM6.1 as WM6.5 was constantly taking up 80 Percent of the Phone's Resources (RAM) with Manila2D active.
It only takes around 56 Percent of it when using WM6.1.
I'm not going to make the switch to WM6.5 as it seems.
And my next Phone is going to be an Android Phone... i'm sick of resistive Touchscreens, i want capacitive ones.
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
i'm using ATOM LIFE - PDAVIET ROM WM6.1 (Core 20931) by TranMinhMan
fuligin said:
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
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Specifically two reasons
1) My battery is XP-09 Lithium Polymer and not Li-ION and distributed with most PDAs. Its really a good battery O2 have distributed in India. Working like new since past 17 months.
2) And yes there are some additional memory setup required to be done in Registry Settings with the help of ACT. Click here for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4081622#post4081622
@indiacam
I got the same powerpack, but what is of more interest for me is how to preserve RAM...
Thanks fellas,
I got the same battery pack also!
My battery performance is really horbile even with your settings Indiacam.
As for Ram, im using about 63% on 6.5 lite by uninstalling some things like the htc album. I shall try to flash again using both
Knowing, the speed of wm6.5 compared to 6.1, did anyone try out to install WM 6.1 on HD2?
I don't like large interfaces of 6.5 (on large 4.3 screen especially ) and the speed is bad.
speed of 6.5 on HD2 is bad? are you sure you have the same HD2 as we do? if you are then you better send it back for repairs
God I hope not, why not try and put WM5 on there while your at it.
Wonder, is it possible to cook the WM6.1 Rom for it, based on HD 1, for example?
Sounds like you bought a ferrari and now want to put in a fiat panda motor
Tokolosh said:
Sounds like you bought a ferrari and now want to put in a fiat panda motor
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italian cars are the best
iDance°-->ra1n said:
italian cars are the best
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actually japanese are more reliable (says a true honda crx vtec driver)
hmm.. why not? some ppl said WM6.1 has a better looking start menu..
and when WM 6.5 was out many many ppl hated the look of the start menu
I dooo hate the 6.5 Start menu
After updating HTC HD 1 with WM6.5, I found out how slow it is, compared to WM61 (several times at least). So, I am thinking that HD2 with WM61 should be incredible fast! Also there are a lot of old software, that works fine on 61 but has problems on 65. Also, the menu, autoselection, ctr+c and a lot others doesnt work everywhere in WM65
Interesting....
smx111 said:
After updating HTC HD 1 with WM6.5, I found out how slow it is, compared to WM61 (several times at least). So, I am thinking that HD2 with WM61 should be incredible fast! Also there are a lot of old software, that works fine on 61 but has problems on 65. Also, the menu, autoselection, ctr+c and a lot others doesnt work everywhere in WM65
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The reason why the Blackstone was slower with WM6.5 was the missing drivers. So it would be when you try to port WM 6.1 for the Leo.
Did you think about the problem of the missing stylus? WM 6.1 is nearly impossible to use without
4.3 screen quite huge even compared to 3.8 HD1 has, so it won't be the missing stylus problem
I so hate the WM 6.5 start menu. Can never find the required icon. Give me back the classic start menu anytime.
hksin said:
I so hate the WM 6.5 start menu. Can never find the required icon. Give me back the classic start menu anytime.
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Take a look at Quickmenu / Qmenu.
tom codon claims to have a 6.1 running on hd2. will be rlsed shortly.
hksin said:
I so hate the WM 6.5 start menu. Can never find the required icon. Give me back the classic start menu anytime.
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How about organising the applications in fitting orders?
I can't believe that anyone would prefer the dumb 6.1 menu over the fantastic 6.5 start menu.
simranjits said:
tom codon claims to have a 6.1 running on hd2. will be rlsed shortly.
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Great News!
We will be waiting! Thanks!
hksin said:
I so hate the WM 6.5 start menu. Can never find the required icon. Give me back the classic start menu anytime.
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I'm too, i like wm6.1
I like W6.1 more than 6.5. who can cook 6.1 for HD2 ?? Please
Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
I've gone back to the Cap's Special with Sense 2.1 and WM 6.5 and have finally decided on the 'look' I want, but the virtual keyboard doesn't work properly in phone keypad or compact qwerty, which I really need when typing short, one handed messages on my touch pro. Also in my people tab, the call mobile button doesn't work to instantly call someone, I have to go into more information and call from the WM contact card. Yes it's kind of minor, but really annoying! And I can't find any cabs, fixes or anything that will solve my problem/s..
So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
Basically, I just want a stock rom with WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1 that doesn't have any major problems and can be used in landscape mode. How hard is that???
I'm kinda new to the TP ROM scene, so please forgive my ignorance and impatience. But I just want a WORKING rom, that's all. There doesn't seem to be as many out there as I thought there'd be, and so far have been very disappointed with what I've tried. Any advice or fingers pointed in the right direction would be most appreciated. Thanks!
jiwas78 said:
Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
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Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
jiwas78 said:
So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
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Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
SweJap said:
Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
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these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
k.electron said:
Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
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I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
if you want stability, use NRG rom 21898 version with cookie home tab, literally NO bugs (after you instal a cab for the volume ctrl cause the one cooked in is messed up). I highly recommend you make the switch to 2.5 sense, I thought that is was less stable, but I was very wrong. The sense 2.5 builds are more stable then the 2.1 ones, also, with cookie hometab you get INSANE customization of your homescreen as well as fluid graphics. Overall, i cannot find a single bug in the latest nrg roms. Hope this helped
JoeUsername said:
I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
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I actually then the 6.5.5 roms with sense 2.5 and my phone works flawlessly. never crashes, and its quite zippy. sure the battery life isnt more than 2 days but i have 5 email boxes syncing on 3g all day.
energy roms are good, but i dont like the fact that they keep changing the basics between every rom, sometimes its opera 9.7, sometimes 10, sometimes beejive, sometimes palringo. tael has a much slimmer base and just the apps that work well. and u get to have the swype keyboard.
i vote him hands down. and u can get the 21898 version which has the start on top.
SweJap said:
Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
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Works fine for me. I vote user error in your case. I probably won't buy a phone with win mobile again either, but that has more to do with the movement of application support towards android and iphoneOS, than to do with win mo.
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
I probably won't buy another WinMo phone again either, unless WM7 lives up to my expectations, which knowing M$, most likely won't.. I am NOT however going to join the iPhone cult, I simply refuse!
But my old Nokia 3600 slide is looking more and more appealing again.. lol.
Keep up the good work though!
Swype
I can at the very least solve your one handed typing issues....get Swype! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949 It is awesome, as previously mentioned. And I am a fan of Energy ROMs myself, but if you want everything perfect, you might wanna try a little home cooking...
jiwas78 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
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Good choice sticking with Cap's Special ROM.
His 21898 Build is by-far the fastest & most stable ROM I've used... And I've been through the GenY, Energy, and TAEL ROMS... none of them compare.
JoeUsername said:
I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
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As previously said here try an Energy Rom with 2.5 an Cookie. And speak latter.
I'm have been using Energy Roms months and never has do a soft reset due a hang or memory problem.
btw last version (2nd May) is completly perfect. No one isue.