Ok, so as the title suggests, i'm looking at replacing the housing of my vario (cause its scratched to hell - keys in pockets, and the odd drop )
After looking at http://cnn.cn/shop/8525-blacksilver-full-housing-p-198.html was wondering whether these were suitable for straight swap? as obviously the keypads are different between the herm100/200/300 but i'd keep the original in as its in good condition, and wouldnt mean i'd need to swap the pcb underneath either?
Or am I barking up the completely wrong tree so to speak?
Any help appreciated...especially for you Vario owners who have changed their housings...any problems you came across etc.
Cheers!
bump surely someone must have done this already?? all these reads, and no replies
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i've already searched....n yeh it mentions swapping with an orange 3100 housing...but thats something i'd haveto find on ebay etc...doesnt mention the 8525 housing on cnn..... so was wondering if the keypad fits or not, as the front faceplate is scratched to hell so would need to swap the whole casing...not just the middle/rear panels.
Try this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OEM-Housing-f...oryZ3728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Cheers for the link Paul. That listing seems to claim that you can replace a vario with that housing, so might aswell just bite the bullet and go for it I'll probably look at getting it from CNN still, as they will work out slightly cheaper (~£32 compared to ~£45)
marcparker said:
replace a vario with that housing
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Vario II to be more precise. The Vario is a HTC Wizard.
Any success with replacing? Is it hard to do? I have some scratches myself, and would like to change the housing. Have a TYTN
I havnt had chance to order the new housing yet, as i was skint until payday I'm going to hopefully get it ordered within the next couple of days.... I'll keep you posted on how it goes!
Still no one with experiences?
On this site there is a GPS antena available for TyTn... can we then enable GPS on the TyTn??
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
I've seen an HTC Hermes Case on this site:
http://www.cellphonepartszone.com/Products.asp?shopxpbe_id=64&id=281
but it's not completely clear to me on how to order and pay... (i'm Italian)
Hope this will be useful and you'll understand how to order the case...
Still no one with experiences on changing the housing?
Sei semplicemente un grande..la cover originale è impossibile da trovare!!
However no succesfully experience to swap the housing because in order to be able to change them (Cingular/HTC 8525 and also from Orange but i can't remember the name) with a TyTN, because the internal keypad membrane of the buttons at the top of the phone are (hope for now) impossible to find anywhere. I'm still looking for..
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On this site there is a GPS antena available for TyTn... can we then enable GPS on the TyTn??
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
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I think enabling GPS is a little more complex than that - there were some required connections on the chipset that are not connected - try searching this forum...
Before post remember the topic of the thread: HOUSING
not gps
After I had changed the housing the screen doesn´t change into landscape mode
Hi!
After I had changed the housing the landscape mode isn´t activate itself while openning the keyboard. It did only once. It seems like the problem is of physical matter but I checket out all again and it seems to be all as it was. I don´t have another complains about functionality.
For those who wants to change the housing I have to say that that takes alot of time. And before you will waist money for a new housing make the following steps:
1. Look a this one verry carefully and be sure you have all tools you need.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Docs_Tutorials/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf
2. Think that you will need some stuff that you will put between new housing and touchscreen. (I took the old one but it isn´t a good idea).
3. You will need some glue to glue the old parts to the new housing (obviously the housing is more than just this plastic case).
If somone could give me an good advice related to the screenmode while opening I will aprecciate that.
ecor said:
Hi!
After I had changed the housing the landscape mode isn´t activate itself while openning the keyboard. It did only once. It seems like the problem is of physical matter but I checket out all again and it seems to be all as it was. I don´t have another complains about functionality.
For those who wants to change the housing I have to say that that takes alot of time. And before you will waist money for a new housing make the following steps:
1. Look a this one verry carefully and be sure you have all tools you need.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Docs_Tutorials/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf
2. Think that you will need some stuff that you will put between new housing and touchscreen. (I took the old one but it isn´t a good idea).
3. You will need some glue to glue the old parts to the new housing (obviously the housing is more than just this plastic case).
If somone could give me an good advice related to the screenmode while opening I will aprecciate that.
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Your device does not rotate anymore because you have not moved the magnet from the old casing to the new one. The magnet operates the rotate switch. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2686388
Mike
Oh and you gave a link to the Wizard Manual, but you can get one for the Hermes here www.mikechannon.net
Because of previous bad experiences with open touchscreen devices in the past, I've decided I need a hardcase with screen cover/lid to prevent unnecessary pressure on the screen. The cover should of course be transparent if possible, but that's not a demand.
While searching the web I found this potential candidate:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000630&products_id=17582
Anyone tried it?
Any other recommendations?
One problem I found with cases that cover the screen: they all interfere. This is still a Windows Mobile phone, and sometimes you will need the stylus. When that happens, you will not be able to use the stylus on the edges. I returned this one after just a couple of days because it rendered my phone unusable.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...025&q_sku=sku4010236&q_manufacturer=&q_model=
For your purposes it might be better to get something like a leather case.
The thing about the pdair alu case is that it's built with a hinge, so you can easily unfold the front part and get full access to the screen should you need to. I don't know if the plastic covering on the hatch is flexible or hard, but I would guess it's hard and so it would suit my needs just fine.
I'm just waiting to see if anyone else has tried this case, I know for a fact that it's easy to get disappointed with small design details on these things.
I must have hit the S740 at an unfortunate angle; now there is a spider web allover the outer display (the glass). The display still functions, but with the web being rather dense, it is not sustainable much longer.
Do any of you know a good and not too expensive supplier of a spare? Saw one on eBay, but there you are never sure of course (would prefer a new rather than used one)
Thanks !
www.shope2.com
Thank you redkallo !
Just placed the order; and although their website produced some glitches, it seems to have worked. What is amazing is the extremely low shipping cost !
Now let's hope it will arrive here sooner or later ..
How easy is it to replace that screen? Would i need to disassemble anything?
I plan to bring it to a repair shop in the neighbourhood. It can be done surely by yourself; but you would know exactly what you are doing
look here http://rapidshare.com/files/209474388/HTC_Rose_Service_Manual_A03_GENERIC.pdf
I replaced the display by myself. It is not easy. I purchased the display on eBay for 30€. I took me 2 hrs to dismantle and assemble the device. You need a large dose of patience and sensitive fingers.
You need to get to all the six screws to get to the display, three of them are hidden beneath the keyboard. To do that you will have to get the keyboard part off the sliding tracks. To do that you will have to first open the very back by peeling off the keyboard by a credit card not to damage the parts inside.
You will have to be extremely careful. Or pay twice in a service if you have a lack of courage.
I can't find any info on this, but it looks like it could be tricky to replace. I cracked my glass by dropping it onto stone, still works OK. You can pick up digitisers pretty cheap on ebay (£20 UK) but does anyone know how to replace? I read that they can be glued to the LCD?
Thanks
Google for the fixit website, if someone has done it there will be a tutorial, or you could follow the guide on here to upgrade your sd card....only because you have to take the phone fully apart. You need to check if the lcd is glued or like the iphone 4 resin. If they are a sealed unit you'd be better off getting the lcd/digitizer combo on ebay. trying to separate an lcd from the digitizer is asking for trouble imho.
I have ordered a digitiser, really hope the digitiser is not glued to the LCD, there is a big price difference. I'll let you know how I get on.
I bought a Mozart with wrecked digitizer and also want to repair it. The digitizer is on its way, so in a week i could tell you how difficult or maybe easy it is.
If you are faster, please post your experience.
I found this thread on xda.cn, and it seems that the lcd isnt glued on the digitizer, so lets hope so
hxxp://xxx.xda.cn/newshow.php?snid=2167
EDIT: sorry cantpost links, so must change the x's to t's and w's
I have got my digitiser now, looks brand new. Just need to find the time to replace, might upgrade the SD card at the same time.
Done
I did this with Andy's guide to help: http://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpres...-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/#comment-225
I used this guide to replace my digitiser (the glass) which I smashed. The good news is that the digitiser is not stuck to the LCD at all. I just bought a grade A digitiser off ebay for £20 which was pretty much perfect - glass was perfect with a couple of small marks on the back case, but basically like new.
There were a couple of differences to this guide:
- Had to replace a speaker type thing at the top of the digitiser that was not present on the new one. Came off quite easily, just stuck in.
- Had to remove the USB port of the old case back (if you are replacing that too) but that was just a couple of screws
- You dont have to split the PCB off if doing this, you just take off the black clips to take it apart and then remove the orange ribbon cable, it is a little tricky to get the new one in but OK.
I now have a phone as good as new, I didn't replace the SD at the same time but probably will do at some point when I can stand loosing all my data.
Found time today to replace the digitizer. I also used Andy's videos for instruction. And it's really not that hard. Pretty easy for someones first mobile phone repair.
Well done, I would add for anyone else needing to do this, be very careful not to touch the inside of the digitiser or the LCD when you have it apart! Also have a glasses cloth handy for removing any dust particles just before you put it back together.
I do have one strange thing however - before I had intermittent issues where I could not slide the screen up when locked for 10 seconds or so. No I have a slightly different issue when unlocking - it doesn't always let me press on the right hand 3 numbers on the PIN screen! So it seems the unlocking issue some people have is due to a hardware issue. My digitiser was second hand so I might ask for a replacement, but I can change my pin so that it is not an issue.
My Mozart touch-screen hardly works at all plus my wife's Mozart has a cracked digitizer glass (still working fine).
So silly me I took the plunge and ordered three cheap replacement digitizers via eBay (from Hong Hong). They arrived today and all are s**t useless.
When I opened the box I smelt the rat when I spied the HTC logo on each was blanked out on the outside of the plastic zip-lock bags (with what looked like black felt pen), plus each glass has minor blemishes/scratches. Comparing each with the digitizers I removed from my and my wife's phones, they have a different design of ribbon cable conductor layout plus there are indications the plastic moulding isn't as well finished in a couple of places. Either these are factory rejects or knock-off copies. Lesson learnt :-(
Anyway, I now need to buy genuine HTC parts.
Any pointers toward reliable sources appreciated, thanks.
KJ
I have bought some off ebay. The problem is that these are almost always from returned Mozart's which may well have been returned due to non responsive screens, which seems to be a very common problem.
I have had 2 off the same chap now, one is OK but not perfect, the other one didnt work at all.
I would just keep returning them until you get one that works.
Sometimes you will find new combined digitiser/LCD's on ebay too, these would be a better bet but cost more.
Can someone who as changed a screen on this phone using Andys guide, please tell me how easy or hard it was, and how long does it take??
And would be grateful if someone could give me a link to the correct digitizer for this phone....
I am in the UK and have been qouted 50 pounds at a phone shop for the to supply and fit screen...
Did you see my post?
There were a couple of differences to this (Andy's) guide:
- Had to replace a speaker type thing at the top of the digitiser that was not present on the new one. Came off quite easily, just stuck in.
- Had to remove the USB port of the old case back (if you are replacing that too) but that was just a couple of screws
- You dont have to split the PCB off if doing this, you just take off the black clips to take it apart and then remove the orange ribbon cable, it is a little tricky to get the new one in but OK.
The most tricky thing for me was getting all the dust off the LCD and the digitsier, as soon as you get it apart things start sticking to it like crazy. Have a clean glasses cloth around.
It takes about an hour on your first go. The main thing is to get the orange ribbon cablle in fully, it can be tricky - you need to get a good grip on it (fold it a little) and push it home quite hard, otherwise you get it all back together and find it doesn't work.
I have had 2 dodgy screens off ebay, £50 sounds OK if it is a brand new original HTC screen.
Or just search for 'htc mozart digitiser' on ebayt there are loads.
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I have bought some off ebay. The problem is that these are almost always from returned Mozart's which may well have been returned due to non responsive screens, which seems to be a very common problem.
I have had 2 off the same chap now, one is OK but not perfect, the other one didnt work at all.
I would just keep returning them until you get one that works.
Sometimes you will find new combined digitiser/LCD's on ebay too, these would be a better bet but cost more.
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Thank you for that. A close look at the ones I bought from china I'm sure now are removed from phones with faulty digitizers, then repackaged as new. One of the three had significant dust and dirt on the inside of the digitiser screen. I've requested a refund via PalPal disputes.
I've ordered some digitizers from ecell in the UK. I'm led to believe by them that these are genuine HTC factory supplied spares.
KJ
I just replaced my 4th screen (1 broke, 2 dodgy).
This one is perfect - as new condition and works perfectly, my last one was not responsive in some situations e.g. lock screen.
This is the one I got (UK)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130498971267?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Of course, your mileage may vary - some are probably good, some not. Replace it, if it doesn't work ask for another, etc.
My new digitizers arrived today from the uk. Horray they are genuine HTC spare parts properly packaged. The downside is they don't include the frame the glass sit in and is adhered to.
So I watched the official HTC Mozart disassembly video on youtube to see how to remove the existing digitizer glass from the frame - got it apart ok after heating the unit to soften the adhesives but it didn't come away entirely cleanly i.e some of the adhesive foam broke away and was left on the underside of the glass.
So... check on eBay and found sellers selling refurbished screen frames ready for a new glass to be attached.
Will update on progress once they arrive.
KJ
just ordered my digitiser today... wish me luck...lol
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just ordered my digitiser today... wish me luck...lol
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Well I am now buzzing... have just changed my screen at it works perfect.....
£50 they wanted at the shop...it cost me £13....
Just to let you know how easy this is to do........If I can do it, anyone can..
Did anyone find a reliable supply in the end? I just cracked my digitiser so looking to replace it...
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Also, how much have others paid? Don't want to be ripped off for some sub-standard part.
Hello everybody,
I m trying to replace the digitiser of a HTC Mozart too.
It is really easy to do, even the part where you have to take off the digitiser from the plastic frame.
But I have an issue, it is the second digitiser I am using ( from the same ebay shop ) and the digitiser is working inverted vertically! Really strange but it is like that.
As the mobile phone is started up, when I push on a left buton, it push on a right button ! On the key board, when I press on "P" it press on "A" ( i m using an Azerty layout, I assume it should be "Q" on your layout ).
It is really anyoing of course.
It is the second screen I received from the Ebay shop and same issue, I don't think the problem come from my side, but I just want to ask to you all if somebody have an idea or the same issue once.
fx.lagwagon said:
Hello everybody,
I m trying to replace the digitiser of a HTC Mozart too.
It is really easy to do, even the part where you have to take off the digitiser from the plastic frame.
But I have an issue, it is the second digitiser I am using ( from the same ebay shop ) and the digitiser is working inverted vertically! Really strange but it is like that.
As the mobile phone is started up, when I push on a left buton, it push on a right button ! On the key board, when I press on "P" it press on "A" ( i m using an Azerty layout, I assume it should be "Q" on your layout ).
It is really anyoing of course.
It is the second screen I received from the Ebay shop and same issue, I don't think the problem come from my side, but I just want to ask to you all if somebody have an idea or the same issue once.
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Mate, I had the same problem. However it seems no one was able to help me either.
I also purchased a digitizer from Ebay for my Mozart - the exact same inverted issue occurred with me. I wasn't able to find a solution.
I'm in Australia with a T8697 model. The digitizer I received from Ebay had a circle around the windows button at the bottom - This was not on my original screen.
In the end, I purchased a digitizer from an Australian business. Cost double the Ebay digitizer did, so I hope it works... Haven't received it yet, but I'll let you know when I put it in.
What model Mozart do you own?
Ok so I bought my Dell Streak from craigslist, and instantly fell in love with it, until about 6 hours later when I dropped it in my garage and the LCD broke, the top is messed up and black lines keep appearing, at like 6-7 now lol
So I checked out the price on ebay, found some US sellers (dont want to wait a month+ for shipping, even to save $10+) and they seem legit, but I also looked up HOW to replace the screen. I am new to mobile phone replacement but I am good at putting things back together, and have replaced a few laptop LCDs. I noticed the Dell Streak is put together with glue, and "pressure?", and seems a little bit more difficult than a laptop LCD.
Now I am just curious about a few things... What tools (other than the screwdrivers and the plastic wedge it comes with to pry it open) would I need? Do I really need to glue things back together when I reassemble? How dangerous to the other parts is this, is it likely I could break or damage other parts of the phone? Like I said I am new to this but not stupid, and can follow DIY's easily, I just want to make sure I dont dig a hole. I paid $200 for my Streak and broke it within hours!
But let me add, I do love this phone!
ANY AND ALL HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
You can use the glue thats already there, you should also consider upgrading the internal memory card if you are doing this repair.
Most screen replacements come with both the lcd and covering glass as a unit already. Make sure any replacement you buy has both.
The biggest gotcha I have seen reported is tearing the cable for the capacitive buttons. be very careful when working on that part.
The top and bottom pieces are stuck on with double sided tape. There are a couple of suggested brands in the screen replacements threads both here and at StreakSmart.
In case you missed any of them here are some screen related links:
Replacing the Screen
Guide to replacing the Streak Screen – PDF File, right click and ‘save as‘ to save. From this thread at the Pocketables forum.
Same guide at XDA - discussion of the same guide at the XDA forums
Another XDA thread – earlier thread
Another Screen replacement guide – This one is at the forum at MoDaCo and includes info on replacing the internal SD card.
Another screen replacement thread at StreakSmart
Screen replacement picture gallery – click on a thumbnail to view larger images. The larger images are very big to make details easier to see.