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I found an interesting battery replacement from Paylessgadget.com
http://www.paylessgadget.com/htc-y-4.html
It looks like a standard size battery, but it's 3600mAh!
It means 33.3% longer battery life than the original one. Very tempting.
One thing I'm worried about is I couldn't see any review before.
And this Paylessgadget.com is the only site (as far as I know) which is selling this battery.
Anybody here had experience with this battery?
MiNiSM
Output Voltage: 3.7 V DC ??????????
on the battery in the shift are 7.4 VDC and 2700mAh
(german shift version...)
GerShift said:
Output Voltage: 3.7 V DC ??????????
on the battery in the shift are 7.4 VDC and 2700mAh
(german shift version...)
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in htcshop are 3.7vdc
on the picture of battery 7.4 vdc
I sent an email to the seller asking for the actual specs.
The battery does not look to have an official brand and does not look like an HTC OEM battery, also it is listed under "BlackBerry" accessories. So this online retailer may have some specs wrong online.
Let's see what they say!
Check this out.
YOOBAO BATTERY for HTC X9500 X-9500 SHIFT ACCU 3600mAH
Both seem to be the same battery.
I ordered one on Monday and should have it this weekend. As soon as I get it I will post some comments.
BTW, running windows 7 7100 RC on the Shift is a beauty. Definitely a fantastic device.
Wow, great price! Please let us know how it works out.
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Check this out.
YOOBAO BATTERY for HTC X9500 X-9500 SHIFT ACCU 3600mAH
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When I posted this, the ebay seller was selling the product for $59.95, the seller has raised to the price to $69.95. I guess a lot of people have been purchasing from the seller to raise the price within 3-4 days.
labnotes said:
When I posted this, the ebay seller was selling the product for $59.95, the seller has raised to the price to $69.95. I guess a lot of people have been purchasing from the seller to raise the price within 3-4 days.
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It's back to $59.95 now.
minism said:
It's back to $59.95 now.
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Good to hear the seller went back to the original price. I own a business myself and I believe it's bad practice for a business to raise prices on the fly. $59.95 is a pretty sweet deal. I don't know if I should get 2 of these batteries over one mugen power 6600 battery. What are the pros and cons?
labnotes said:
Good to hear the seller went back to the original price. I own a business myself and I believe it's bad practice for a business to raise prices on the fly. $59.95 is a pretty sweet deal. I don't know if I should get 2 of these batteries over one mugen power 6600 battery. What are the pros and cons?
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I'm waiting acarriles' review/comment.
Once he gets it, we can get more information.
I'm also thinking $59.95 is the pretty sweet price point.
Bad, bad, bad news...
I should have remembered my electricity 101: E=V x A Energy (watts) equals volts x amps.
The original battery is 2700 mAh, but 7.4 V, hence capable of producing 19.98 or roughly 20 Watts. On the othe hand, the Yoobao does have indeed 3600 mAh, but is only rated at 3.7 V !!!!! At first I thought it was a typo on their site, but the reality is that the Yoobao p.o.s. only produces 3.6x3.7 = 13.32 Watts, or only 66% of the original battery!!!!!!!
So the theory was clear, this battery was twice as expensive as the original one, and produced 1/3 less energy.
In any case, I did a full round of tests and the theory was right. In balanced powwer settings, I normally get 2 hours of light surfing use. With the Yoobao battery I hardly got 1 hour and 29 minutes. WHAT A WASTE AND WHAT A SCAM!
If I don't get a full refund on Moinday, I will do a full chargeback.
Buyer beware.
I thing I will now look into the Mugen...
hi acarriles, this doesn't make sense. How can a 3.7V battery drive a device that requires 7.4V, it wouldn't have worked in the first place??!! And the charging voltage (8.4V) and current coming from the Shift would kill the battery! Are you able to perform more extended test?
Expansys Shift battery 2700mAh @ 3.7V !
Dear all Shift owners , i have just spoken to Expansys , they confirmed that the Shift battery that they are selling is only 3.7V with 2700mAh and it is Oem manufacturer . This may mean that it may give your shift half of the battery life as compare to your original Htc battery ! So beware of the hours of capacity of these batteries as oppose to the mAh and Vdc of the mentioned specs . I think a safer investment ( costly it is ! ) would be either an original Htc battery , a 4400mAh Mugen battery or a 6600mAh mugen battery - all 3 rated at 7.4v , or big capacity extended battery for laptops . But just keep in mind and get to know more info of these cheaper oem batteries from china , unless lower price is your main concern . Thanks and regards - jimmunsw
I can't find the Mugen batteries on eBay. Where is the best source?
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If I don't get a full refund on Moinday, I will do a full chargeback.
I thing I will now look into the Mugen...
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<Acarriles>
Did you return your product yet?
If not, and you are stuck with it, can we do a test?
Would you mind opening the battery casing and taking a few pictures for me?
I am working a modular external battery where you can replace old/dead cells rather than the whole battery. I'm also working on making it selectable voltage to power at 3.7V (for an X7500) and 7.4V (for an X9500), plus making it scalable to where you can make it 2200, 4400, 6600, 8800, 11000, 13200, and up MaH simply by sliding another pair of of x7500 batteries into a holder.
see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3854691&postcount=65
This would be an external battery with cable, but if your pictures show me different, maybe the cells from the X7500 battery can be moved into the shell of the Yahboo shell....just trying new things here...
Dear Bradaland ,
Respect , i respect you for your hdd upgrading and now external battery mod for your advantage and shift , i too have both the device - fantastic device it is man , i hope you can share more with pictures or video for this battery mod , i may invest in sealed lead acid battery type but i now wait for your result first , also pls either you or our experts - please finish up with the bluetooth , sd card and mic and speaker plugin - these items are essiential to complete our wm6 critical usages . What about SSD instead of Hdd ? Can this be done by you too ? Please let me know . I like to thank you and all other gurus for all your wonderful and hardwork and sleepless nights for doing all you can and sharing with all shift owners around the world , it is just too damn good , cheers - jimmunsw
Sorry Bradaland, I already sent the battery back. $100 was too much money to waste in a useless battery... I may also try building one using lithium polimer cells... I'll keep you all posted. BTW I did install an SSD last week and the performance is phenomenal, well worth the investment.
Dear acarriles ,
I am looking at sealed lead acid battery of 12v 12Ah or 12v 17Ah complete with similar charger to power my shift for at least 6 to 7 hours at one go . It is big and comprises a strings of connections but it is cheaper than mugen power , plus point is it can also power other devices , but mobility is somewhat compromised ( but you know power is there ). It is very good to hear your ssd is working smooth and fast , i may look into that upgrade later . Cheers to you and bradaland - jimmunsw
Shift owners , i have just spoken to Expansys , they confirmed thatTE the Shift battery that they are selling is only 3.7V with 2700mAh and it is Oem manufacturer . This may mean that it may give your shift half of the battery life as compare to your original Htc battery ! So beware of the hours of capacity of these batteries as oppose to the mAh and Vdc of the mentioned specs . I think a safer investment ( costly it is ! ) would be either an original Htc battery , a 4400mAh Mugen battery or a 6600mAh mugen battery - all 3 rated at 7.4v , or big capacity extended battery for laptops . But just keep in mind and get to know more info of these cheaper oem batteries from china , unless lower price is your main concern .
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it is not true, I get yesterday battery from expansys and is exactly the same as original one-no matter what expansys say the batteries are the same (i have shift uk version),so if one battery cost now £21.99 and has 2700mAh, for me is better to buy 3 this batteries than one chunky Mugen battery 6600mAh which cost about 130-140£ , and still before power runs out I can go to hibernate mode and change battery for fully charge one.
Old battery is running out of juice. Recently found some 1700mah drea160 g1 battery on ebay. Any one tested them yet?
What happen to the ecell 1500mah battery? couldn't find it anymore.
By the way, I'm looking for a standard battery (fits in original housing), please reply if you have something to share. Thanks
Don't know if its the same battery i bought about half a year ago at ebay germany but i had no luck with it.
It was labeled as 1700 mah battery... now, 7 month later the battery has power for about 6 hours in standby (think about 500mah rest capacity)
Even in the first months the battery had not more power than the original htc 1150mah battery, the standby time was about the same.
I recommend not to buy it... better get one or two cheaper standard capacity batteries
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well I just ordered mine off ebay, total came to a lil over 5 bucks.
Im guessing its not gonna pan out, but hopin it'll be at least as good as stock, and if its either of those, im getting my money back and keeping the battery. So tis a win for me no matter what.
I'll do review.
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Don't know if its the same battery i bought about half a year ago at ebay germany but i had no luck with it.
It was labeled as 1700 mah battery... now, 7 month later the battery has power for about 6 hours in standby (think about 500mah rest capacity)
Even in the first months the battery had not more power than the original htc 1150mah battery, the standby time was about the same.
I recommend not to buy it... better get one or two cheaper standard capacity batteries
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There's a flood of standard capacity battery on ebay that I can't tell which is good and which is bad. I'm just wishing to get one that will last slightly longer than stock or as long as stock. Guess I will have to look around for a bit.
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well I just ordered mine off ebay, total came to a lil over 5 bucks.
Im guessing its not gonna pan out, but hopin it'll be at least as good as stock, and if its either of those, im getting my money back and keeping the battery. So tis a win for me no matter what.
I'll do review.
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Thanks, hopefully it's not one of those that do great for the first few days and degrade quickly afterward.
well just recieved my battery, its fake, and came with a sticker stating 2500mah! Lmao. same size as stock. But im gonna try it out for a week, and as long as it works better than my old battery, i'll give positive feedback and not request my money back.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27003
This battery works great for me, have had it a few weeks now, has easily doubled my battery life and standby time is crazy it never has come close to dying while on standby.
The one I received is a little different than the one pictured, my backplate has just the camera recessed and not the whole area around it. So the back is even throughout.
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http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27003
This battery works great for me, have had it a few weeks now, has easily doubled my battery life and standby time is crazy it never has come close to dying while on standby.
The one I received is a little different than the one pictured, my backplate has just the camera recessed and not the whole area around it. So the back is even throughout.
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Just ordered this battery, thanks.
MotoMudder77 said:
well just recieved my battery, its fake, and came with a sticker stating 2500mah! Lmao. same size as stock. But im gonna try it out for a week, and as long as it works better than my old battery, i'll give positive feedback and not request my money back.
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ha 2500mah. No wonder the seller did not reply me when I asked if this is truly 1700mah battery. Alright, let me know how it goes. Thanks
Guys,
I found a 1700mah battery on ebay (restriction on new users stops me from providing the link, but it's from Seller austintexwireless ( 18439 sales))
Do you think it's fake at 1.60$?...
I am looking to buy a bigger battery, but I do not want the extended packs with thick back covers, so would prefer one that fits the original slot.
Any advice?
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Guys,
I found a 1700mah battery on ebay (restriction on new users stops me from providing the link, but it's from Seller austintexwireless ( 18439 sales))
Do you think it's fake at 1.60$?...
I am looking to buy a bigger battery, but I do not want the extended packs with thick back covers, so would prefer one that fits the original slot.
Any advice?
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Here you go http://cell-phones.shop.ebay.com/i....kw=&_osacat=20336&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
I ordered three batteries off ebay. Two of them were delivered and I'm waiting for the last one. One of the batteries is 1050 Mah and the other is 1150. They both hold equally with a little edge for the 1150 one. I'm really sceptic that in this thickness the battery could have a larger capacity than the stock one. This is a limitation of the Li-Ion technology. However, both of those batteries are much better than the swollen stock one after 1,5 years of use and do a great job. One more thing. The 1050 one was from HongKong and cost me about $3 and the bigger one was from UK and cost me about 7-8$, but was delivered much much faster. I think that you can't go wrong with a battery for 3-4$ but I recommend getting two batteries and an external charger - it's a must have for power users. That's it.
My ANDIDA 1600mAh battery begins to show its age (used to last at least 1-day of use, sometimes 2-day if use is light, now barely make it over a whole day) after 11-month of use. So I got a new 1700mAh (by SCUD) battery.
I shall report back how it performs after a few days of use...
ANDIDA 1600mAh
SCUD 1700mAh
P.S. They both weigh 24g.
A quick search finds that lithium ion's specific energy density ranges from 150 to 250 W·h/kg. If we take the highest specific energy density, so 24 / 1000 * 250 = 6W·h (WHr). Divide 6W·h by 3.7V * 1000 = 1621mAh.
So it's THEORETICALLY possible that these batteries can contain 1600-1700mAh of juice. Whether they can actually store as much is, well, another matter.
Of course, the above calculations haven't taken into consideration of the weight of the housing and the circuitry so the figures should be a bit off.
P.P.S. I remember the original battery (1150mAh) weighed a few grams more through.
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Here you go http://cell-phones.shop.ebay.com/i....kw=&_osacat=20336&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
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that pictures even says 2500 mah, I wouldn't trust it.
so, after a few days of use, it isn't as good as the andida when it was new. the andida surely lasted me at least 1-day of uses (unless i'm using gps the whole time, which drains the battery in a few short hours). this one, it lasts a day of moderate use but not much left.
i'm hoping that with more uses, it will be more "warmed up" and last longer.
i'll report back if this happens.
Looks like the SCUD can last 1.5 day of use mostly.
Hey,
I was trawling the internet for some cheap extended batteries. (my only other experience with them was the official HTC one for the HD2).
I heard someone saying that there is a good 3500mah one going on Amazon for £11. I'm presuming he meant this as it is the first result: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecell-3500M...A9ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333452409&sr=8-1
After a quick search on ebay I found the same battery for £5.99! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3500mah-H...ltDomain_3&hash=item256aa12a8e#ht_2235wt_1024
But is it any good? Has anyone had any prior experience with unbranded batteries?
Thanks,
Louis
never go for it, no use, this are fake chinese battery, i got one for evo 4g. it was told to be 3500 but it was not even 1000 mah.
stevestone said:
never go for it, no use, this are fake chinese battery, i got one for evo 4g. it was told to be 3500 but it was not even 1000 mah.
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That is usually true for the batteries that sit inside the original casing, but not the extended ones?
I am saying abt extended one, same battery which you are asking for.
stevestone said:
I am saying abt extended one, same battery which you are asking for.
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What is the 'abt extended one'?
lhayati said:
Hey,
I was trawling the internet for some cheap extended batteries. (my only other experience with them was the official HTC one for the HD2).
I heard someone saying that there is a good 3500mah one going on Amazon for £11. I'm presuming he meant this as it is the first result: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecell-3500M...A9ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333452409&sr=8-1
After a quick search on ebay I found the same battery for £5.99! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3500mah-H...ltDomain_3&hash=item256aa12a8e#ht_2235wt_1024
But is it any good? Has anyone had any prior experience with unbranded batteries?
Thanks,
Louis
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I got this on amazon and has been doing calibration with the battery monitor widget and its calibrating out to at least 2500mah. One peculiar thing is the first 40% or so drop by very fast, but then from 50-30 percent it last a lot longer, this has been notice by another poster also. the battery door is also decent, first generation soft touch rubber coating type material and not as ugly as the Seidio door
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I got this on amazon and has been doing calibration with the battery monitor widget and its calibrating out to at least 2500mah. One peculiar thing is the first 40% or so drop by very fast, but then from 50-30 percent it last a lot longer, this has been notice by another poster also. the battery door is also decent, first generation soft touch rubber coating type material and not as ugly as the Seidio door
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So can you please give me a rough estimate on how much longer this battery lasts? And would you recommend it over the stock battery?
Thanks,
Louis
stevestone said:
never go for it, no use, this are fake chinese battery, i got one for evo 4g. it was told to be 3500 but it was not even 1000 mah.
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You buy many spare batteries for the amount an original battery costs. One spare battery made in China is about € 2,50.
What the real capacity is doesn't matter, as long it does it job as spare battery, you can always order a second one.
Also would it be better to buy the 3500mah and use that as primary. or buy something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Qual...ultDomain_3&hash=item43ab4ef97d#ht_2079wt_805
And use it as a secondary battery? Which would provide the best overall battery life?
Thanks,
Louis
lhayati said:
Also would it be better to buy the 3500mah and use that as primary. or buy something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Qual...ultDomain_3&hash=item43ab4ef97d#ht_2079wt_805
And use it as a secondary battery? Which would provide the best overall battery life?
Thanks,
Louis
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it come down to if the original battery is not lasting you through 1 day, do you want to swap battery during the day?
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lhayati said:
So can you please give me a rough estimate on how much longer this battery lasts? And would you recommend it over the stock battery?
Thanks,
Louis
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that is hard to say, because everybody usage pattern is different, but even if its only 2500mah it still comes to 50% more capacity then the stock 1700mah.
Last night charge cycle adjust it to about 2700 mah, I don't think its settle down yet, seem the more charge history the widget collect the more accurate the calibration should be.
DexterMorganNL said:
You buy many spare batteries for the amount an original battery costs. One spare battery made in China is about € 2,50.
What the real capacity is doesn't matter, as long it does it job as spare battery, you can always order a second one.
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Thats true. But, seriously i was not happy with the backup it provides. It was 50% of the oem.
as in for spare this is great. you can also try anker one, its great and cheap.
btw, it was about extended.
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Thats true. But, seriously i was not happy with the backup it provides. It was 50% of the oem.
as in for spare this is great. you can also try anker one, its great and cheap.
btw, it was about extended.
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I can get 4 of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Qual...ultDomain_3&hash=item43ab4ef97d#ht_2079wt_805 for the same price as the Anker?
Guys dont trust some of these batteries. I bought a few of these similar type batteries cause they were really cheap 2 for $9.99 with charger. This has been discussed to death already. I bought another set of 3x + 1 charger. They didnt last long at all. I peeled the stickers on all of them at they were all had 1000mah stamped on it but the sticker says 1800mah. This has been pointed out here before too. It was a complete waste of time and a hassle trying to get my $ back. Seller didnt bother taking the batteries back. For the total of $20 I spent and headache I couldve just bought and anker or chichitec. Which I did. I bought 2x 1900mah anker + charger for 24.99 a while back and they have been great. Been using them for 10 months now and last slightly longer than stock. I will look for the thread so you guys can do some reading but it did get pretty lengthy. Spend the extra $5 or even $10 and dont go for these cheap batteries.
Here's the thread. Take time to read it and it may be worth your trouble later down the road.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176984
Which one of these batteries is better and why
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Rezound...097818?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19cf2e429a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...703839?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256e43721f
Not knowing anythging about batteries myself, I assume that the higher mAh is better. Just wanna make sure
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Which one of these batteries is better and why
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Rezound...097818?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19cf2e429a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...703839?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256e43721f
Not knowing anythging about batteries myself, I assume that the higher mAh is better. Just wanna make sure
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the HTC one is bigger and has more mAH so last longer... but you will need a different battery door... the other one i think fits in the stock battery door but only last longer for a couple of months
Ebay ad says: *Extended battery door is needed, which we do not currently carry*
Don't forget that the Rezound antenna it is located on the back cover so if you get an extend battery it should come with a new cover and antenna as well.
The HTC one does.
20phileagles said:
Which one of these batteries is better and why
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Rezound...097818?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19cf2e429a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...703839?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256e43721f
Not knowing anythging about batteries myself, I assume that the higher mAh is better. Just wanna make sure
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Besides what the others have posted, I've found Mugen batteries to be overrated in regards to MAH rating. Ive only had two Mugen batteries on other phones, but received nearly identical battery use in comparison to my lesser mah stock batteries.
Just my opinion, but grab the HTC extended battery, but don't forget about the door. I have 3 extended battery doors if you need one.
Anyone here can share your experience with a slim extended battery for note 3? I want a better capacity battery comparing to original without adding the bulk to my note 3.
Spare battery charging kit.
sent from my sm-9005.
You're not going to get a battery that has more mah AND fits under the stock battery door. Some batteries state a higher mah, but have the same or less than the stock battery.
I agree with @rbiter, spare Samsung battery with Samsung battery charger = awesome combo! That's what I have and love it! I also have a 12,000mah power bank with 2 usb ports, so it can charge 2 devices simultaneously. This combination gives me more than enough battery life to last me for days without needing AC or DC power!
SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 3 via XDA Premium
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Anyone here can share your experience with a slim extended battery for note 3? I want a better capacity battery comparing to original without adding the bulk to my note 3.
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I believe that the extended battery should be thicker than the original battery because the capacity is more than the original.
Originally, if the capacity is larger, the chips of the battery should be more.
Therefore, it's impossible that the extended battery is slim.
I have a 6400mah extended battery, but actually I don't like extended battery. thicker. uhhh
Ordered a MPJ 4500mAh slim battery on 03/10 and I am still waiting...
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Ordered a MPJ 4500mAh slim battery on 03/10 and I am still waiting...
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That whole thread is 'snake oil'.
Didn't want to ruin a perfectly good nonsense thread there, but this seems a more appropriate place to mention a few realities.
1) Can't magically make more mAh out of the same sized battery. Especially not that much more. That's pretty much like grabbing two of the exact same logs and declaring that under the same circumstances one burns for an hour and the other a day.
2) People in that thread are claiming it charges faster. No kidding. That's because it has less to charge.
3) You get what you pay for.