I've flashed my HTC prophey many times and everything went fine, today i tried flashing it with a new rom (evo8en) but then when it said congrats..etc the screen didnt change. so i tried downgrading to WM5, same thing, it said everything was successful, but the screen is still at the tricolour screen.
any ideas ??
Check the wiki...
wanna save your prophet?
l3v5y said:
Check the wiki...
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please follow the steps ....
1. do the RECOVER MODE, remove the battery,
2. wait one minute,
3. repack,
4. power on,
5. press and keep pressing the comm. mgr button, same time, JUST pick the reset for half a second, then ONLY release the stylus,
6. wait for the tri-color screen,
7. release button,
8. connect to a restarted PC,
9. execute PV-temp,
10. follow and complete all 'next' steps,
11. wait for 100% finish, touch NOTHING,
12. prophet will be restarted, activeSync may start in PC, just leave it (do nothing to it),
13. be sure that you had downloaded the EVO8en both part1 and part2 and place in a same place / folder,
14. ONLY EXECUTE PART1.EXE, that is all you need to upgrade, no unzip or what so ever,
15. in the screen, choose 3,
16. follow a few steps on the PC screen and wait,
17, after 9-15 minutes, DONE!!!!!!
IMPORTANT MUST READ!!!
1. MUST HARD RESET IMMEDIATELY,
2. after reboot, the name of the storage card will be first configured as " storage_card" for some advance purposes, just soft reset once more, the SD card name may return back to " storage card " (without under score),
3. BETTER do the "clear storage " now for a more clean prophet,
4. ENJOY ! ! !
EVO8en is designing for pre-supported Asian languages / characters, without HTC home or cube, please install the HTC home for Evo8en to maximize system speed, for more details and download links, please go to my posts in the rom collections of this forum.
Original Chef = Youzii
Senior Evo series consultation = iiiox
one of the happy users = dioxda2
Good Luck !!
hey,thanks!!!
after about 3 hours of installing the prophet temp/restarting..etc it FINALLY got off thr bootloader screen, then i was able to install the evoen smoothly.
Got 2 questions though,in the home page, above the task bar, pretty much on the very top there is about 0.5 mm of space thats coloured with blue and white bars. is that normal?
2nd question is about the HTC cubes or w.e, i didnt get that part, so whats the name of the progs that i'm supposed to install? < nevermind, i went thru all 16 pages of your thread thanks man!!! really nice rom.
thanks, it seems wayyy more stable that the fantastic rom (that rom kept on going from bad to worst, at one point my cell froze when i was using the gps in a city that i've never been in before!!!)
wellysm said:
in the home page, above the task bar, pretty much on the very top there is about 0.5 mm of space thats coloured with blue and white bars. is that normal?
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Pwrstat is an indicator of battery and memory status on the left and right part of the screen respectively.
See more information >> http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/pwrstat-8951.shtml
Delete "pwrstat.lnk" in Windows\StartUp and soft-reset your device will disable the indicator if it seems not right to your eye.
Good luck^^"
By the way, I am defenitely not anything like dioxda2 claimed. Rather, he is the one keeps helping Evo users at this forum..haha~~
To install HTCHome for EVO, you might like to check this out >>> http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=388826&p=14#4299216
Top top bar~~~~
wellysm said:
hey,thanks!!!
after about 3 hours of installing the prophet temp/restarting..etc it FINALLY got off thr bootloader screen, then i was able to install the evoen smoothly.
Got 2 questions though,in the home page, above the task bar, pretty much on the very top there is about 0.5 mm of space thats coloured with blue and white bars. is that normal?
2nd question is about the HTC cubes or w.e, i didnt get that part, so whats the name of the progs that i'm supposed to install? < nevermind, i went thru all 16 pages of your thread thanks man!!! really nice rom.
thanks, it seems wayyy more stable that the fantastic rom (that rom kept on going from bad to worst, at one point my cell froze when i was using the gps in a city that i've never been in before!!!)
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Q1 = NORMAL : think that, top left half is the power bar, top right half is program memory left ( 5M per rod),
Q2 = you had solved trhat by your self already!
Hope you like it !
Thanks again guys! that was really helpful. and awesom rom for sure.
Related
hi...just installed one of the cooked roms and missing the HTC task manager....anyway I can add that back in there...I am refering to the task manager where you can tap por hold the X button to shut down programs...
thanks
The cab is posted in my ROM thread in this forum. Enjoy
would you be kind and tell me which threadr link to the thread....my eyes are popping out
Envy your ride - LOL assuming your nick.
See attached, should work and is from the ROMeOS xtd. set.
sorry guys..a bit new here and appricieate your help...I am sure I will get better at this soon
I just installed it...will it be possible to make it show up on the title bar...where you can just click and see a drop down of the running programs like the ATT crappy ROM?
tyguy said:
Envy your ride - LOL assuming your nick.
See attached, should work and is from the ROMeOS xtd. set.
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I traded it in for a yellow 1098
It's official, I now join tyguy in envying your ride.
whats the difference of the HTC task manager and HTX X button 1.5?
thanks guys...its an amazing bike...so far in ther first 1200 miles i have put on it its been amazing
SOFT RESET (stylus) or Power Off/On after install!
The task man is the little icon on the right top of the screen showing open/active tasks, can be configured to X minimize ir X close (wrench symbol, the Duc guys should know - LOL), left symbil with the staggered xxx is nor porn just "close all open".
OT:
@yellowducati996 - Sat today on the Duc Streetfighter (Long Beach bike show) ... yummy ... may replace my current Z fighter or should I go with a Tuono?
argh....
i installed HTC_TASK_MANAGER_2_1_34563_3R.CAB and htc x button 1.5....for a few second after the restart I saw the little x buton drop down where i saw the list of active programs...then it dis-appeared....any thoughts?
HTC TASK MANAGER + X Button
hey guys...i just installed the cab which you refered me and installed htx x button 1.5.....after reboot I saw it show up for a few seconds and saw the drop down menu for the x buton where it shows the running programs...after a few seconds it dissapeared...any thoughts? thanks for you help!
tyguy
i might show up depending on weather...have been hearing about it....
I know what the x button drop down should look like...i saw it for a few seconds after a soft reset but then it disappeard...am I doing something wrong here?
give me more details on the ducati of seattle street rider event...are they getting together at Buca?
Guess you don't need the HTC X... However, what ROM are you running?
I don't need the HTC Taskman and simply use WKTask.
tyguy
don't you own a lambo?
Lambo ... Where? Who? I wish!!
I am on ROMeOS2_151_FINAL_ENG_20759_051208
Give me 5 min to install Taskman, just looking to fix my GPS lag.
kool...
speaking of GPS.....my GPS usually shows me 5-7 blocks away from my location...is there a fix for that?
Not sure if anyone can give some advice on this...
If the battery goes dead or if for some reason the phone has to start up,
It goes back to inital config!! - ie: - tap screen to start, set up the phone etc...
all apps, settings etc have gone, as if its a new phone!!
Its highly frustrating and wondered if anyone can help.....
thanks
......just wondering, does the phone have a small battery that keeps its memory??
maybe that needs changing??
Try a hard reset.
how do I do a hard reset?
thanks
is this right??........
# remove the battery cover.
# observe that by the USB port, there is a small indentation. This is the reset switch access.
# Keep the slider closed.
# power the phone on.
# press the “talk” and “end” buttons; while holding them down, use the stylus to probe into the reset switch hole at a 45 degree angle to the major axis of the phone.
# when you get to the “press enter to reset the phone” page, press the center dpad
yep, thats right
didnt work,
when I reset or battery dies etc. It reboots back, as if its a new flash....
have you tried changing the radio and/or the rom?
andy_dutch said:
Not sure if anyone can give some advice on this...
If the battery goes dead or if for some reason the phone has to start up,
It goes back to inital config!! - ie: - tap screen to start, set up the phone etc...
all apps, settings etc have gone, as if its a new phone!!
Its highly frustrating and wondered if anyone can help.....
thanks
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I Had exactly the same problem
I tryed all the 6.5 rom in this forum and the problem continues
i also tryed changing the radio.
I tryed a 6.1 rom and get the same rhing.
The only solution was flashing the original rom from htc
There is some strange error in this new roms.
I have the same problem!!
Now I have the Salvy C83 v3.3 rom on my Touch dual...
JMD2006 said:
I have the same problem!!
Now I have the Salvy C83 v3.3 rom on my Touch dual...
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The only way to get the phone running again was to install the original htc rom
And it has to be this one:
http://www.4shared.com/account/file..._13171012_Radio_Nike_1582123_signed_Ship.html
Thanks for the solution, now it works.
i have 2 new builds coming
NOW POSTED build 23420 found here:http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1455
NOW POSTED build 23060 found here: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2002
Change log and known issues found at link above as well.
Please post any issue over there please.
Some Pictures Below FROM THE ROM
Hi, I cant seem to Fix the problem with my Wifi and your rom, It goes off after 20 seconds or so! by its self, and i want to get my email, but it wont stay connected..... and i cant figure out why but other than that... love the rom and the awesome window side slide animation
Great Job
kingfarmer said:
Hi, I cant seem to Fix the problem with my Wifi and your rom, It goes off after 20 seconds or so! by its self, and i want to get my email, but it wont stay connected..... and i cant figure out why but other than that... love the rom and the awesome window side slide animation
Great Job
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ok i will look into the wifi to see if there is an error some where.
i ask please post any issues on the link above please
wifi - i am not having wifi issues - if you have wifi issues please do a hard reset and try wifi again - if you still have issues please post on the link posted above
same here. I tested both a secured and unsecured network without any issues. check your router.
herg62123 said:
wifi - i am not having wifi issues - if you have wifi issues please do a hard reset and try wifi again - if you still have issues please post on the link posted above
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Ya, thanks anyways, it doesnt seem to go away for me, and i flashed Chrome rom, and it is fixed now.... thanks anyways, and again, great ROM, chrome isnt compared to it. but i like Wifi
am downloading it now (v13).. lets see. will update on ur link if i run across any problems
This is a great looking ROM. Like its almost ripped out of the TP2 or a Hero. Very quick and responsive. One noticeable isssue Ive had is a resizing problem when texting in landscape. Other than that, im also pleased i barely had to install anything, like almost everything i needed was there already.
Kudos
Just flashed this rom and I'm very happy with it. Runs very smooth and fast.
Only thing is I can't find the keyboard selector. Was it cooked in or do I have to install it? It seems the fuze keyboard is selected and this makes using the hw keyboard on a TP kind of difficult.
Awesome work on the rom!
Is all the hardware button working?
freedompeace said:
Is all the hardware button working?
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All seem to be working on my touch pro including volume control.
I had to install the fuze / pro keyboard selector to get the hw keyboard working correctly.
Home button
Is there any chance to make Home Button open Manila Home Tab instead of WM start menu?
Hmm I installed chome editor 1.6 and now the lower left button (next to the start button) always says action and when pressed tries to start the htc action screen which isn't there. Is there a way to restore this?
First I want to say Thank You for such a beautiful ROM. It's fast, finger friendly, and professional looking. (Love the slider)
A couple things I have noticed are as followed:
1. Under the Notifications options, when I select "New Text Message", then try to select a different sound it scrolls the window behind the drop down box... not the actual drop down box. Same goes for the "Event" box, but only on some. Hard to explain.
2. Minor but annoying - When waking up and the device is locked, the clock jumps to the bottom of the screen then back up to the top.
3. Another Minor thing - "Start" occasionally shows up on the top left of the screen. Is it always supposed to be there or never? I know it brings up programs.
4. GfxBoost (lol "DO NOT DISTRIBUTE") has some icon issued on the bottom left and right. Bottom left (you can only see 1/4 of the windows logo) and bottom right (Don't know what it's supposed to be)
All-in-all i feel this is a fantastic ROM. I'd love to see what else you got up your sleeve. After about 16 hours I was down to 64% battery with hardly any use, but then again I was in the office where I get ZERO signal!
funny, I can only confirm the first issue. This happens only when using a sweep to scroll. When the slider is used it scrolls ok. I have also seen this pn the activesync screen when selecting message delivery schedules.
I'm running without manilla btw. I love Titanium
I am not registered (yet) on the other forum, hence posting here.
Installed v13 and its amazing.. fast and nice graphics..
Only one issue uptil now. In call recording is not working. It gives an error (something like cannot start ICR, wrong certificate etc..) Can I unistall ICR (not in the remove programs list) and install autocall recorder 1.2 instead? tht gives me more options..?
thanks
Thank You
Very nice ROM, thanks! I haven't gone through everything, but all seemes good so far!
Hey herg!
I had no idea you were a chef too! I flashed your rom and it is kick ass so far...
Aside from TF3D being a little sluggish (not that I care since I no longer use it... iPhoneToday all the way... for now ) it have not seen bugs.
BT file transfer - oK
3G connection - oK
ActiveSync - oK
Battery life - pretty good so far
GPS lock on - to be tested later
Wifi - to be tested later
I will try to report some more later on, but so far... kick ass!
love it
i havent updated to D-fresh-est but your doug-e-fresh is an amazing rom thank you for your contributions buddy im flashing this sucka tonight
rajackar said:
Just flashed this rom and I'm very happy with it. Runs very smooth and fast.
Only thing is I can't find the keyboard selector. Was it cooked in or do I have to install it? It seems the fuze keyboard is selected and this makes using the hw keyboard on a TP kind of difficult.
Awesome work on the rom!
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in 6.5.1 builds the keyboard selector is gone. Instead, hold down the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen and the selector pops up. That's the good...the bad is that it makes it harder to toggle the keyboard off the screen cause pressing it leads to he selector instead of toggling but that's the build, not the ROM. I'm still loving the ROM
First of all, thank you for your interest and feedback! Mostly due to your request I want to present you a new version.
Version 1.25 changelog:
1. Added Connections on/off
2. Added alarm - poor one
Version 1.20 changelog:
1. Added new profiles: WiFi on/off, Bluetooth (BT) on/off, Phone on/off. Added also Soft Reset.
2. Some minor changes.
Version 1.10 changelog:
1. Added half-hours (I think quarters are too much).
2. Hour format (24 or 12) is automatically changed depending on your regional settings.
3. I don't have VGA device, but I think now the screen is squeezed a bit so it can fit to VGA square screen. Please, try and tell me what happens.
4. Added sound profiles - low, medium, high and very high.
5. Number of settings increased from 4 to 15.
Please, download TProfiler120.CAB for latest version.
Automatically switches device sound mode(available profiles - sounds on, sounds off, vibrate, volume low, medium, high, too high), turns on/off wifi, bluetooth, phone mode and soft resets at selected hour and weekday and thus saves your battery power. Simple application, doesn't occupy memory. Tested only on HTC HD2 but should work on other devices too (TP2, Touch HD/Blackstone - tested thanks to replies to this thread).
It works fine on TP2
Great application.
It would be great if it had also a 24-hour mode .
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
digiblur said:
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
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+1 on this request.
Would be also great if one could change profile on headset plug-in/plug-out.
When I softreset the phone it gives me a non signed error.
VGA please
scabbard1 said:
VGA please
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looks very promising as of this is really important to have because i tend to forget to switch my phone to silent when im at school
ill be watching this thread
Great application !
Feature request: time in quarter/half hours too.
You might want to add some additional 'rules'. If you have a different time schedule for every day in the week, 4 just aren't enough...
Awesome
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
zharptitza said:
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
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+1 though 5 min time slots would be better. Are going to try and integrate the App so it will switch on calendar appointments?
just installed 1.10 on my HD, but when I start the app it alerts "Doesn't exist", and after tapping 'ok' the app doesn't respond anymore, actually the complete screen doesn't respond. Using the hardwarebuttons I can go back to my homescreen and then using the system taskmanager I can shut the app down after that everythings fine..
anybody got an idea? because it looks like a useful app to me
Dear Xsite3,
I think you had to wait for a while - when started first time the application takes more time (1-2 minutes).
Just installed v1.1 on my HD2 and i get the message attached. Any ideas?
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
V 1.10 crashes for me
I was using version 1.00 with no problems on my HTC Fuze running WM 6.5. But version 1.10 crashes on startup with this error:
TProfiler.exe
InvalidCastException
at
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToInteger()
at
DeviceApplication1.Form1.Form1_Load()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibleNotify()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visible()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at DeviceApplication1.Module1.Main()
The app appears to draw at least a portion of it's window, and then crashes, though it goes by too quickly to see just how much of it is drawn
I really like the app. I especially like the addition of half hours in this version, if I can get it to work.
Hypermommy said:
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
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Hmm same here
Phone: TOuch HD
Rom: Xannytech 1.9B (+maxManila)
Cheers
Problems
Fellows, sorry for keeping you waiting - Please, try now - it should work.
Update on 24.12.10 - My phone hasn't frozen or switched off on it's own since I made these changes! The battery life constantly stays real good. I have only charged my battery up to 100% TWICE in 4 days!! I think this trick works! I will really appreciate if more testers come forward and help us test this
What will this mean?
This will mean that we can make TG01 battery stay minimum of 24 hours and maximum upto 38-40 hours with good amount of browsing, calls, texts, games, ALSO keep exchange sync on forever!!
In total before my battery completely died, I was able to do the following:
2357 minutes of stand-by (includes the activities as well)
137 minutes of browsing
3 Downloads (total less than 10MB)
180 minutes of calls
36 text messages
21 email downloads using Exchange sync - that was ON all the time
60 minutes of gaming
18 pictures taken using camera
12 minute video recorded using camera
1 round of back up and virus scan
This is what I've done:
Installed SPB Shell here
Removed Taskbar (was a cab file in miROM4 that I am using)
Removed Start Menu (I have attached cab that I used to remove start menu)
Before you remove start menu or taskbar - PLEASE make sure you have full functioning SPB Shell installed. You will loose WinMo start menu and notifications (see attached pic) so you will rely solely on SPB Shell ONLY
On miROM4 by removing start menu and taskbar the original free RAM (96MB) increases upto 105+MB - I don't know how, I don't know why. This is my observation and testing!When you install SPB Shell, you will notice the RAM going down to 78-80MB on boot. - I don't think it's bad either.
Now you might wonder what's so different.
Someone did an experiment showing that by running apps the battery drain was 20% compared to stock ROM
Another experiment also led to show that battery drain mostly is not a ROM issue
I am no tech, I am no expert. This is my pure observation and my experimentation with TG01. I know the links I've quoted are for HTC mainly, but I suppose theory still stays. If any one is willing to replicate those experiments on their TG01 please feel free to collaborate with me.
I have updated all my uses on TG01 between 100% battery and 0% battery.
After 100% charging the battery,
Just to re-fresh what I have done with it apart from leaving it on 'stand-by'
I am running SPB Shell with it.
Using Opera 10 browser for facebook, bing, google (approx browsing 97 minutes till now)
I have read news on Evening standard and BBC (approx time 35 minutes till now)
I have downloaded recipe for 2 cocktails
I have made 6 (appox. 147 minutes in total) phone calls
I have sent 31 text messages
My active sync is on since 10pm as I have set my exchange email retrieval 'as item arrives' - so it has downloaded 14 email items at different times. Experiments have shown that results are quite bad when it comes to using Exchange Active Sync schedule 'as item arrives'
I have played Sudoku (about an hour)
I have left my backlight at 70% (on SPB you have an option)
My battery life after 18 hours 30 minutes is 80% with free ram of 78-80% without any processes running i.e. on stand-by!!
1 call (33 minutes long)
5 text messages
2 games (56 minutes total) of puzzle
Facebook using Opera 10 (updated status, replied few messages, browsed mainly)
Downloaded tube map from a website using Opera 10
Took about 18 pictures using TG01
Cleaned RAM, Virus scanned and did an online back up.
After 27 hours 22 minutes - my battery life remaining is 50%
Made 0 phone calls, 0 texts
My active sync downloaded 7 emails
I checked XDA website for about 20 odd minutes using Opera 10
I used facebook for 10 minutes using Opera 10
I recorded a video of length 12 minutes
All this time my wifi and data connections were switched 'ON'
39 hours 17 minutes - my battery is 0% and my TG01 switched off!!
Putting all these links together, I think if ROMs don't affect the battery drain, but by removing these two elements if my phone survives in adverse conditions i.e. exchange email (shown above link) and running apps/games (shown above link) - then it had to be either of these two elements or settings behind them that drain our TG01's battery!
EDIT: Yes, Oly after removing taskbar, when we press on 'Start button' it freezes the mobile. We don't need to remove battery to get rid of the freeze. Just few seconds and it comes back to normal. But to avoid that occuring, I used the attached cab. That cab removes start menu from the face of my WinMo. PS: This cab is NOT my creation. I have found it on XDA. ALL the credit for this cab goes to NRGZ28 - this cab will prevent making RegEdits
THUMBNAILS' LEGENDS:
1) How the 'Today' screen looks without taskbar and Start Menu Icon
2) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
3) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
4) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
5) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
6) How the SPB home screen looks without taskbar
drupad2drupad said:
OK GUYS .....
Removed start menu
Removed taskbar.
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Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
Pere said:
Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
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I had DarkNinja task bar pre installed as cab from miROM4 - I removed it. It sort of 'disables' the start menu, but after that I removed start menu using one of the 'remove start menu keep x button' cabs and then eventually even removed 'x' button most programs respond to <- key at bottom.
I could attach cabs if you want but basically removing taskbar will remove all your icons on top and just leave the clock - it makes SPB Shell look nicer as well!
It been 27 hours and 21 minutes as I type and my phone's battery is 50%. I am going to edit the amount of tasks I have done in these 27 hours.
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
olyloh6696 said:
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
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Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
drupad2drupad said:
Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
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Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
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Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
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gizmogeeker said:
Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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+1 and then -1
I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
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hi drupad! sorry i had a typo in my other post... i was meant to say i can sucessfully disable the start menu on 6.5.3/6.5.5 , but i cannot get it to open up the spb menu in the spb settings. there is no option for it... i will try and post screenshots soon! also i have been using this technique for months and having noticed a battery performance increase because i thought it was to do with the ROM i changed from ... i guess it does make a big difference! i will try and disable my task bar and report back! im not to sure if disabling the task bar stops your notifications caching in the RAM. perhaps someone else could help us out?
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
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Thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when I reach home! I wish more users could test this and give feedback.
I might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more with these observations!!
Another thing I just realized is I haven't restarted my phone at all - The last time I switched off my phone was when I completely ran out of battery during this 'experiment'!
My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
drupad2drupad said:
thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when i reach home! i wish more users cud test this and give feedback. we might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more!!
Another thing I just realised is I havent restarted my phone at all! My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
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thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
olyloh6696 said:
thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
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updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
drupad2drupad said:
updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
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nice! thanks drupad
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
Good luck and thanks for trying this, will wait for your feedback
drupad2drupad said:
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
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Some software are able to connect via GPRS automatically and disconnect too after exit ( Palringo ) but most of them not. So I would like to have such fast way to disconnect ( I did not check - battery is still charging in shutdown - but mentioned "Connections" have not ability to disconnect from GPRS ?. As I remember there are three fields Phone, BT and W-Fi. Wi-Fi shows connected or not and one can switch-off wi-fi . It is not the same as as disconnect but better this than nothing.
Phone only shows that whole GSM radio is on not GPRS connection.
Anyway, maybe You know any kind of software that allows to manage GPRS-Wi-Fi. It does not has to be in upper bar. It is enough I will put it on SPB window.
drupad2drupad said:
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
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Yes in my oppinion ( I was dealing with other "small" devices like PNA and PDA ) backlight is factor thar can dramatically make battery live longer. No wonder , it requires a lot of energy.
I guess that You ensured very good conditions for Your experiemnts. I mean very good quality of GSM and Wi-Fi signal which may cause the transcievers on tg01 could work with low power. It is in my oppinion second main factor. In bad conditions GSM can "eats" even 1-2 W of power.
drupad2drupad said:
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
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Do You want to say that with miROM10 You have the same good result as with miROM4 without removing task bar and wm menu ?
Recently I tested miROM11 ( as mirolg said there are only minor changes in comparison to miROM10 ) but I am rather disappointed. Not stable. Eats battery as any other ROM.
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fxdjacentyfxd