Hells bells I got it to work at last.
A lot of you have been experimenting with usb hubbs and can only get athena to see 2 ports on a 4 port hubb.
WELL I can now see 3 ports.
Running a usb 104 keys keyboard
usb mouse
kingston datatraveller 2.0 GB memory stick (sees it as a "Hard Drive")
I now run it on tiniest vga screen hooked up to an LCD 19inch (or wifes 22 inch wide) with above connected - running dataviz docs to go which gives me desktop word excel powerpoint pdf as well as Handbase (access like program)
FANTASTIC
The trick after losts of experiments is the following
In the HTC 4 in 1 cable usb slot I plugged a digitech micro usb hub (in other words a device which has 1 usb port connector on the LHS and 4 usb ports on the RHS all in one solid plastic block ie no cables
I cannot find this hub again as I have had it for some time but on the net i found this one from china which appears simmiliar and hopefully will do the trick in that it will see 3 out of the 4 ports (sees any 3 ports) but not the fourth one !!!!
I think the ability to see 3 ports instead of 2 is that it must be usb 1 (these are usb 2.0 devices below) and it must be a solid block with no cables - all the others I tried never got past 2 ports.
Maybe the usb 2.0 solid blocks below will also work - maybe the clincher is losing the cable and haveing the solid block
All usb hubs with the cables (even self powered ones) will only see 2 ports !!!
Hell I am trying
Got my setup to work like a bomb.
Will also see my integral 8 in 1 sd card reader and read my memort sticks and sdhc cards (again the card reader is one of those solid blocks with a usb port - no cables)
(Note : You have to remove the memory stick to plug in sd card reader and will only see one card at a time)
See items below
I have not tried these but my one is like these below
Happy computing
So for me I guess I will pass on the shift - I already have one at a hell of a lot bucks less.
Found a Belkin one as well model F5U018
http://www.shopbot.com.au/p-16446-791749.html
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/details.aspx?view=info&itemid=2492434
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Belkin-USB-4-Port-Micro-Thumb-Hub_W0QQitemZ170175935758QQcmdZViewItem
A targus one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-USB-Micro-Swivel-4-Port/dp/B0000AKL2D
Wow, looks like you made progress so thanks. I was wondering if you had a external 2.5" HDD caddy (USB, self - battery or mains powered) you could try for us?
I've started three threads on mutliple forums to get to the bottom of why the 4 in 1 cable isn't cuttting it with USB devices and so far the excuse is that it dosn't have the umph to power power hungry USB kit like a spinning Ext HDD Caddy! But your setup might work especially if the Caddy has it's own power source, which mine has in the form of mains or lithium battery pack.
Any way if it's not to much trouble your help would be much appreciated by myself and others following this issue.
Thanks Optical10
optical10 said:
Wow, looks like you made progress so thanks. I was wondering if you had a external 2.5" HDD caddy (USB, self - battery or mains powered) you could try for us?
I've started three threads on mutliple forums to get to the bottom of why the 4 in 1 cable isn't cuttting it with USB devices and so far the excuse is that it dosn't have the umph to power power hungry USB kit like a spinning Ext HDD Caddy! But your setup might work especially if the Caddy has it's own power source, which mine has in the form of mains or lithium battery pack.
Any way if it's not to much trouble your help would be much appreciated by myself and others following this issue.
Thanks Optical10
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Am I right in thinking that the USB Host hardware on the Athena is USB 2.0 but that WM6 is only capable of seeing it as 1.1? Thought I read this somewhere......anyway just a thought but maybe the OS can tell the difference between a solid state disk and a platter disk; thus no matter how much power you throw at it it won't work. Either that or it simply won't read above a certain capacity. Whichever is true I think it's safe to say that the external HDD debate is a dead duck: USB host has never purported to read full-on hard disks, only thumb drives and HIDs: there is clearly a reason for this.
My old toshiba e750 from 4 years ago had usb host capability. It could see all 20gig of my selfpowered X-drive.
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My old toshiba e750 from 4 years ago had usb host capability. It could see all 20gig of my selfpowered X-drive.
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Bizarre. What os did that run? I thought USB host support only came out with WM5
PPC 2003 SE, I was running a 4port hub and could use a usb gps, the 20gig x-drive, usb keyboard, and mouse. Only the x-drive needed external power, the other attachments worked just fine. Strange that current devices cannot even to that.
Hi Guys
I am back again.
I dont have a usb caddy but I have a usb (self powered) HDD cage that takes a 120GB 3.5in hdd.
I will try this on moinday evening when back home and report back
Hi
I am battling to see the HDD
Will have to try a smaller size.
Found a way to get rid of office mobile s??t once and for all.
Go to Docs to go folder and copy the 5 programs to a new directory
wordtogo, exceltogo, powerpointtogo, ziptogo and pdftogo.
Then rename them as follows:
wordtogo.exe to pword.exe
exceltogo.exe tp pxl.exe
powerpointtogo.exe to ppt.exe
ziptogo.exe to zipview.exe
pdftogo.exe to (using pk 3.0 touch version of rom) to ppc_adobereaderle.exe
then copy these 5 programs to c:\windows
the pword + pxl + ppt files will lie alongside their rom conterparts but the ram versins will always boot first.
zipview and ppc_adovereaderle will overwrite their ram counterparts.
Now whenever you see an attachement or anything it will always open docs to go equivalents and the office mobile link files (.lnk) in rom will call the ram versions which are the docs to go programs
Voila and now you have proper word excel powerpoint and pdf ???? as well as zip programs
cheers
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Am I right in thinking that the USB Host hardware on the Athena is USB 2.0 but that WM6 is only capable of seeing it as 1.1? Thought I read this somewhere......anyway just a thought but maybe the OS can tell the difference between a solid state disk and a platter disk; thus no matter how much power you throw at it it won't work. Either that or it simply won't read above a certain capacity. Whichever is true I think it's safe to say that the external HDD debate is a dead duck: USB host has never purported to read full-on hard disks, only thumb drives and HIDs: there is clearly a reason for this.
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i think u r right
wm6 seems to see all devices as usb 1.1
No, I don't think WM6 can only see it as USB 1.o Some winmo devices are having USB 2.0.
See this for example:
http://www.sideshowdevices.com/i-mate-ultimate-wm6-phones-with-vista-sideshow-support
I think it is the software driver used, but I'm not competely sure. It cannot be due to hardware because WM5torage allows the PC to see Athena as USB2.0 harddisk. May be I'm not talking sense, but anyway.
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No, I don't think WM6 can only see it as USB 1.o Some winmo devices are having USB 2.0.
See this for example:
http://www.sideshowdevices.com/i-mate-ultimate-wm6-phones-with-vista-sideshow-support
I think it is the software driver used, but I'm not competely sure. It cannot be due to hardware because WM5torage allows the PC to see Athena as USB2.0 harddisk. May be I'm not talking sense, but anyway.
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usb client and usb host are different. wm6 certainly supposts usb client, though until recently even this aspect was only usb 1.1 in HTC devices, certainly,
So
Lets see if I get this correct (dumb ole me)
Usb client services on Athena couldbe usb 2.0
usb hpst services could be 1.1
Surely then this could be thew driver used.
If so can this be changed in the PK 3.0 black rom ????
Maybe ask olipro crowd ????
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usb client and usb host are different. wm6 certainly supposts usb client, though until recently even this aspect was only usb 1.1 in HTC devices, certainly,
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You're right.
There's no doubt in my mind that WM6 does support USB 2.0. The technical savvy might be able to port the right driver over to Athena to test.
Related
Just wondering what can be done with the full size USB port. I've connected two cameras and my Droid X too it and none were recognized as mass storage devices. The only use I have found for it so far is that it can charge my phone. I would love to be able to be able plug in my camera (Sony, not SD card) and dump them on to it where ever I am for editing or uploading.
Thanks
Keyboards usually work right out of the box, so that can be a nice feature. Also, I think hard drives can be hooked up, but the tablet can't really power them, so they have to be connected via a powered hub. I think thumb drives/flash drives work as well, but I haven't tried them.
For me, being able to easily get a cheap, generic keyboard working has been a very nice feature of the tablet.
I believe I recall reading that you can use it for USB GPS receivers as well. I have not tried it myself.
ahhh a Keyboard, that would be a nice addition. Now that I think about it I am going to see if my bluetooth keyboard will work (don't have a USB one)
GPS is something I am missing more than I would have expected on a tablet
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
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I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
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That is what I use it for as well.
Anyone had success making USB controllers work for emulators? Seen the wiimote bluetooth setup, but I don't have a wiimote.
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Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
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Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
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I also have an 'official Malata' USB to ethernet on the way for review to see if I can get it to work and see if there would be any interest for us in the States. I should have the demo today and will report back any findings?
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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Have you tried tethering to your phone? I used my MyTouch 4g hotspot feature at two diners this past weekend and it worked well.
Wondering about the usb nic driver, is it provided with the usb nic ? or do we need someone to develop one ? Ive had a quick look on ebay and can see a few of these available, naturally none of them are official Malata' USB to ethernet. so that raises the question of using none Malata ones ?
I use it for a flash drive too.
The issue is that I copied mp3 from the flash drive to the g-tab..and when I use File Explorer I can see and play the songs, but in the Music app they dont show up.
320 external hard drive
Hello. I am looking to buy a 320 GB hard drive for my gtab. I am wanting to buy the Western Digital My passport essential. Do you think this will work with the USB on this device? It is usb powered. Thanks.
the tab usb will not power a standard hd
Anybody ever tried a USB TV Receiver? I'm doubting it would work, but would be cool...
I was looking to use the usb port to load pictures from my camera's sd cards via a card reader onto the tablet when I travel. Saves me from taking my laptop with me. I can do everything I need with a smaller device like a tablet now. (Might have to save them back on a flashdrive though in case the Gtab decides to delete your pictures...)
And I guess you can always use the the port for your USB Pet Rock. (thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/c208)
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
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This poster says their 320 GB hard drive is powered by it. So will the 320 GB western digital essentials be powered by it?
hi:
i think i will try to get hptp from ebay.
i see that it doesnt have usb for flash drive..
assuming that if connected to a dongle, it will read/write to flash drives,
which adapter should i search for.. mini male (for tp) > usb (flashdrive)?
thanx
I have read a thread on the usb host mode for the TP (can't remember which of the 8 forums I am on) that the micro usb port WILL support host mode BUT you will need a "Y" cable to provide power at the same time. Do a search for "host mode " on the TP forums and check it out. I have not attempted it so far as I have not found the correct "Y" cable mentioned in the thread.
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green said:
There is fully functional USB Host support, you don't even need to do any SW modification, everything is supported out of the box with one caveat, you need external power.
Support for keyboard, mice, harddrives and cameras is fully built in the default WebOS software.
I guess HP planned to sell their own USB attachments, iPad-style.
The only thing you need is USB OTG cable. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-micro-U...781644?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19c7d49acc
Basically just search for "USB OTG cable" on ebay, costs about $3. And USB Y-cable. The only two things you need are OTG microUSB cable and USB Y cable to provide external power.
I am still looking into possibility of self-powered usb host mode, with all the support HP built in for it it almost sounds like a given there must be a way to enable it one way or another. Unfortunately chipset documentation is almost nonexistent.
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well i got hptp today..
the ebay link USB OTG cable for was great..
the y cable search was confusing:: i do not know which kind to look for plus.. i dont see how to use this thing.. how does it get power.. i spose the USB OTG cable plugs into one of the "y" but im lost really...
i appreciate all responses..
thanx
What i've bought:
OTG: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...070399?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0e501abf
USB Female to Female: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280732594049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Y cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120626863147?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
External battery with USB: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
What i've got: unusable pile of crap. The whole system can power up a mouse or gamepad, or external HDD (which is need to be powered from wall socket in addition to TP) but it's much worse with anything else: 16gb flash stick - lights up, but not enough power to read data, USB card reader don't even lights up. And situation with powering from PC USB (instead of ext. battery) is the same.
Anyway, even if the whole system would work, i doubt that you would take all those cables with you wherever you go, so it's useless.
i watched the russian vid..
hassle w/ capital H
little to zero hope of this gonna ever work
thanx for replies
As some of you know, I could get USB host to work on the release candidate of HoneyComb but not on the final release (3.55.405).
This morning I thought I would try again, my flyer was turned off (completely shut down) when I plugged in my portable hard drive (Seagate 120 gig using the Y cable one to a power supply the other to a USB micro USB adaptor).
I then booted up the Flyer … low and behold there it was. Shows up as USB in Astro but, does not show in Root Explorer.
I was able to watch my movies and play my music from the hard drive.
It seems like the flyer with latest HoneyComb will only see USB peripherals at boot time.
Great news!
If you care to try some other configurations, I'd love to get your results when using a usb keyboard or mouse?
vancraft said:
Great news!
If you care to try some other configurations, I'd love to get your results when using a usb keyboard or mouse?
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Will do … just keep in mind that any device well need to be self powered (because the Flyers port does not provide power) I’ll try with a powered hub.
Kudzus said:
It seems like the flyer with latest HoneyComb will only see USB peripherals at boot time.
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It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
Elfuente said:
It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
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What Rom are you using? Most of us have been unable to get Usb host working on the latest HoneyComb release.
Edit: just tried again and won’t work for me unless I boot with it plugged in. Also, booting takes a longer than normal time.
Elfuente said:
It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
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Please be more specific, on what custom ROM and what version, you have try? Do you have tried other usb peripherals too?
iwansuryo said:
Please be more specific, on what custom ROM and what version, you have try? Do you have tried other usb peripherals too?
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I don´t use a custom rom I use the HC stock rom. You have to have the "/mnt/sdcard/usb/" folder. If you don´t have it, create it. I use only as I mentioned a 1 TB Harddisk and I used also two different kind of 8GB USB Flashdrives with a Y-Cable with external powersupply and a Nokia OTG Cable.
They work all perfectly fine. Only I had to unmount the devices before I unplugged otherwise I needed to reboot as well for a another usb device.
I didn´t try any other peripherals.
I am not a "tecfreak", just an average user who likes to tinker and mess around with his gadgets. If you have any further question I can help you with, Please ask.
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Will do … just keep in mind that any device well need to be self powered (because the Flyers port does not provide power) I’ll try with a powered hub.
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so pendrives will not work?
Elfuente said:
I don´t use a custom rom I use the HC stock rom. You have to have the "/mnt/sdcard/usb/" folder. If you don´t have it, create it. I use only as I mentioned a 1 TB Harddisk and I used also two different kind of 8GB USB Flashdrives with a Y-Cable with external powersupply and a Nokia OTG Cable.
They work all perfectly fine. Only I had to unmount the devices before I unplugged otherwise I needed to reboot as well for a another usb device.
I didn´t try any other peripherals.
I am not a "tecfreak", just an average user who likes to tinker and mess around with his gadgets. If you have any further question I can help you with, Please ask.
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Are you s-off or rooted?
Elfuente said:
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Been doing some more testing … I noticed (when using the Y cable on my drive) that when I power up the hard drive the charging light on the Flyer comes on.
So, somehow power is back feeding to the OTG cable.
This leads me to believe that it may work better (like Elfuente stated) with a different cable.
Perhaps the Nokia cable does not have the charging pins
Ps: I noticed that on my Y cable … one is labeled Power+Data the other is labeled Power
I had a rather long message typed about this but the browser crashed, I'll possibly retype most of that later, but for now suffice to say that cables are singnificant in these setups.
globatron said:
I had a rather long message typed about this but the browser crashed, I'll possibly retype most of that later, but for now suffice to say that cables are singnificant in these setups.
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Ahhh there you are I was hoping you would show up. If anyone could shed some light on this it would be you. Do I smell another hardware hack?
Keeping in mind my abilities in this field are very limited but, I was thinking … if I could come up with a battery pack for a portable hard drive I could (with the proper cables) then just plug it in and have the ability to read and write to it.
Maybe another hack for an adapter to provide power from a battery with usb connector or mains usb charger but it should actually be fairly trivial to implement, so maybe a schematic also for anyone who is remotely comfortable with soldering.
The big difference between OTG and other usb modes is that pin 5 is electrically significant. When grounded it indicates to an otg capable device that it should go to OTG-A mode (OTG equivalent of host mode), when floating it's ignored and the device will not detect a connected device.
Kudzus said:
I could come up with a battery pack for a portable hard drive I could (with the proper cables) then just plug it in and have the ability to read and write to it.
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That´s exactly what I do. I travel a lot and was used to carry a netbook with me. Now I changed to the Flyer and use the external 1TB Harddisc with a BatteryPack as external powersupply (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZV1A1Y).
As I already mentioned: It works fine for me.
Elfuente said:
That´s exactly what I do. I travel a lot and was used to carry a netbook with me. Now I changed to the Flyer and use the external 1TB Harddisc with a BatteryPack as external powersupply (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZV1A1Y).
As I already mentioned: It works fine for me.
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Thanks for this.
I ordered one of the Nokia cables and if it works for me.
I’ll then take both apart (drive and battery) and mill up a case to mount both of them in.
This only works with honey comb right?
and by the way, the disc has to be formated wit fat32.
... and yes I formated a 1TB harddisc with fat32, look here; http://www.thetfp.com/tfp/tilted-te...-formatting-large-hard-drives-32gb-fat32.html
Today, a friend asked if I had an extra laptop. He needed one for his 10 year old son.
While rummaging through my closet (you know, the one with all the old computers, shotguns, and half empty Jack Daniels bottles) when I found one of these.
Two Pics … http://db.tt/GY4wfof6 and http://db.tt/rzkodoMi
Now, I have no idea as to how, where or when I got this. I had to search the net to even know what it was.
Ebay link … http://www.ebay.com/itm/230328510631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
Continuing my search of the closet I also found a 2.5 inch 160 gig IDE hard drive. Assembled the two and I now have a portable battery powered drive that works great with my Flyer.
That looks kinda old school. =)
So you connect to the flyer via bluetooth or microUSB?
It connects with microUSB.
Now that I’ve had a chance to use it a while I’ve found I can set its switch to PC or DC.
When set to PC I just plug it in to my Flyer and can copy files both ways.
When set to DC it will function as a standalone unit (because it has its own battery power). I can plug thumb drives and USB sdcard adaptors into it to move files both ways.
It will even plug into my camera and copy the pictures.
Kind of handy as the Flyer doesn’t supply power at its microUSB port to spin a hard drive.
It’s not what I call well built but seems to work.
At least it does the job! I didn't know we could use OTG harddrive for the flyer...
That's very cool. Vastly increases the number of movies I could take with me on a long trip!
ARRR
Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
simtech1976 said:
Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Yes using a standard micro usb cable
Try this ... Shut down your Flyer (make sure Fast Boot is unchecked in settings) then turn on your drive in DC mode and restart your Flyer.
Your Flyer should find it then and will work from then on.
Using your file explorer of choice you should see a new folder called USB
Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
Still no go with the OTG device. Tried with a friends Flyer and same results. I am going to try this device, is fairly cheap.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-5-For-OTG-LCD-Partner-Storage-Backup-HDD-/260990399369?pt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&hash=item3cc43d7389
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Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
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Strange … My Flyer is the 16 Gig Best Buy wifi model and is rooted I wonder if that makes a difference
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I have an OTG cable from my samsung but this did not work. what OTG cable are you using? I gather you are connecting the USB device into the OTG cable via a powered hub?
Got it working but it's a hackjob, was going to root but having to downgrade then upgrade again was a pain and was not guaranteed to work. Tried running the OTG cable into a powered hub but for what ever reason would always come up USB device not recognised when plugging in any memory device. Tried 3 USB hubs with the same result. Ended up cutting up an OTG cable and a few other USB cables so I could provide power to the device and then power to the tablet as well. For whatever reason i need to provide power to he memory stick before plugging into tablet. I have tested 4 different memory pens and 1 external harddrive and they all work.
I just bought a generic OTG cable, its about 6 inches long. I think it may have come from HP. I have used both a powered hub and a y-usb hard drive cable and both worked for me.
You have to have power on the device before you plug it onto the FLyer so that on connect the Flyer software knows what type of device it is and can load the driver. Otherwise the Flyer will label it unknown and disable the device.
Managed to get USB on the go to work on my Jetstream. See the following post. as the flyer very similar, should work for flyer too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24814701
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OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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USB 3 DOES require a USB 3 compatible device... i.e. USB 3 compatible devices on both ends...
Ah this is annoying, the first place I read it said you don't need a 3.0 device, the second place I read it said it works as fast as the slowest device - which could be 2.0. Info. is a little sparse on this, isn't it? But it's been in for a few years. Is it really worth getting 3.0 if adoption is so slow?
No, because our devices have only microUSB v2.0, so we can only have the speed of USB 2.0.
You can try, but you won't get more speed out of it.
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Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g. ]
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You can use usb2.0 cable without problems, USB3.0 standard is backwards compatible with usb 2.0. You should probably get faster charge times with USB3.0 because of higher rated mA on ports...
I like the sound of that!
I have heard of many problems with USB 2 devices in 3 ports. Driver issues apparently.
I look forward to phones which support USB 3 because that's now a missing link the chain - the computers selling now have the ports. I was a bit doubtful of the 'real' benefits of the speed (I was quite young when USB 2 came in) but my God, it is fantastic. I backup my hard drive frequently and I am amazed at the speed every time. :laugh:
Hi,
the only problem you can have by using USB3.0 port for your smartphone, it's a driver problem.
For the speed of transfert, you need USB3 port, USB3 cable and... USB3 device .
The connector of USB3 (device side) is different from USB2 and I never saw USB3 cable with micro port (used on our smartphone).
It's a shame, I can't wait for USB 3.0 phones! I didn't care much about until I got my first USB 3.0 hard drive...wow
but why need usb 3.0?
the best would be a class 10 sdcard -- so writing files into the phone's memory card is faster.
10 sd will be enough
Yep ultimately I would prefer to use a phone's flash memory. I've experimented with music library management on Android but I for my next option I think I'd go with an iOS device.