Hi Guys,
I am having problems trying to get my GPS receiver and my Jasjam synced together. I am using wm6 Satin Normal.
When i go and add a new bluetooth device, it finds it fine and I add the passkey in with no problems. They wont actually sync up though which is the annoying part. The reason I know this is because the bluetooth light on the gps doesnt flash, and I can't get any GPS signals from tom tom 6.
Ive tried different com ports etc and it doesnt seem to help at all. One thing that is confusing is the "external GPS" option. I am usnsure on which ports to choose for each as your already choosing an outgoing port in the bluetooth properties etc?
I have also installed GPS gate, and that can seem to pickup the bluetooth side of the gps receiver but always comes up saying "no gps signal found" but you can see the bluetooth flashing on receiver.
Sorry for the large rant, I have been trying to get this working for the last 5 hours
Cheers,
Jacob
Australia
Here's what i did, hope it helps you
I had a similar issue-- bought gps receiver in poland, the synced it retarded... only worked with their software, had to fiddle around to make it work with inav. Then I upgraded my rom and couldn't get it to sync exactly like your problem. I fixed it though and here's what i did. BTW, i have a navibe gb735 bluetooth receiver. Anyway... first thing i did wrong is not set my software to a 9600 baud rate. This fixed my syncing issue... but i digress. From the beginning not.
1. pair the bt receiver to your phone by adding the device.
2. in external gps I set the program com to 1 (I don't think its necessary though).
3. In the hardware com i set it to com 5.
4. I left checked the automatially manage gps.
5. Went back to bluetooth settings and created a new outgoing com port for the bluetooth receiver and set it to 5 (same number as the hardware port in external gps settings).
6. I don't know about tom tom, but in inav i have a gps settings tab. Since my bt receiver manual says it should be set at 9600 baudrate, I changed to that in the software's settings and also chose com 5 in the actual software's settings.
7. OK, once all this is done and for initial start up, I suppose its a good idea to turn off the phone first before trying to make it work; not a soft reset though... just power it down.
8. When you start it up, go to bluetooth settings, click on your device and refresh your services (just to make sure its synced well).
9. Close out the bluetooth settings and turn on tom tom.
10. Your bluetooth should sync itself now. IF not, leave to program open and go back to bluetooth settings and just refresh services on the device. IF that doesn't fix it, I can't really help you anymore.
p.s. sometimes it helps to just turn off bluetooth services and turn them on while the gps program is running. I have to do that sometimes when i switch between inav and google maps mobile.
This is the process i had to go through with my receiver and after having some issues with it sometimes syncing and sometimes not; I now have it syncing regularly with no problems.
cheers
I have an AntennaGPS.
I sync the GPS with the phone. I then go into advanced on the sync settings and tick the serial port option. I then go to comm ports and set the GPS to comm port 4 (you have to do this before running Tomtom software). Then I start Tomtom. It automatically detects what com port the GPS is on but I have to pick "other BT receiver". Had no problems.... Ever..
Cheers...
Newest dcd/radio. did all the steps, using astro to launch. com 4, 4800, location on.
it's stuck at the waiting for a valid gps signal.
look up astrogpslauncher.
dcd1182 said:
look up astrogpslauncher.
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using it right now to launch tomtom, without it it says "no gps device".
With it it says "no valid GPS signal"
on the GPS status it says again "no valid GPS signal" but i see some round dots with numbers in them on the NorthWestSouthEast (radar?) thing.
have you read through the GPS faq?
I use TomTom 6, but I don't use AstroGpslauncher. Instead I use BAF's Gps Toggle on the today screen, then launch TomTom Navigator. Works brilliantly, get locks in 30 seconds (with crappy VZW pri).
just tried baf.
install it, toggle on, then launch tomtom. it does the same thing, it just stays at "waiting for a valid GPS signal" (kept it on there for 10minutes)
Is there a small simple utility that i can check if i can get a gps lock?
google earth
scratch that - google maps
TOMTOM 6.03 works for me
install VisualGPSce to test. TomTom is already communicating with your GPS, so GoogleEarth is bad advice since it is only capable of returning same lack of concise information that you have now.
Within TomTom you can also tap onto the bottom right corner and eventually (forgot off hand) get into the GPS status to see the condition of satellite reception and locks/or lack of.
Reset your phone and try outside with clear sight of the sky and leave it there for up to a half hour. You may get sufficient locks or not. Worse comes to worse, there's no software resolution and you have one of the Titans with a hardware fault/damage that inhibits satellite reception and locking.
(I've just updated the Wiki Titan FAQ with the above....)
Have anyone got the GPS on the Titan to work when you don't have network service?
I have even tried this:
http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=13024
I can get my Titan to pick like around 10 sats but it's very unlikely that I will get a lock (1 of 20 times I get a lock).
Cliff notes: What do you have to do to get the GPS on the Titan to work in Europe?
Thanks
Without data, as long as you don't enable aGPS it will work in offline mode, however it's very intermittent on sync. The best method is to turn it on, give it a clear view of the sky either outside or in your car and just wait. If you are driving it will almost never sync up.
Get a tool like Bafs GPS Toggle. As it won't "time out" like Google Maps and Live Search will do. If you just wait it should eventually sync up.
As for outside the country, I am not sure if any of the primer tools like QuickGPS will help, not sure if they will download the ephemeris data for those areas. The first satellite your phone can link onto will then transmit ephemeris data to your phone and tell it what other satellites should be visable at the moment and the upcoming schedule for the upcoming time periods. It then attempts to connect to the others. If it can never make that initial connection then you may never get a sync.
Just give it some time. Mine never took more than 15 minutes while standing still, tho while driving I drove for over 30 minutes once with no sync, however I came to a long stop light 2-3 minutes, and bam it synced. So the trick is to just sit still.
I've never been to Europe, so I can't guarantee that my advice will help.
BTC
BillThyCat said:
Without data, as long as you don't enable aGPS it will work in offline mode, however it's very intermittent on sync. The best method is to turn it on, give it a clear view of the sky either outside or in your car and just wait. If you are driving it will almost never sync up.
Get a tool like Bafs GPS Toggle. As it won't "time out" like Google Maps and Live Search will do. If you just wait it should eventually sync up.
As for outside the country, I am not sure if any of the primer tools like QuickGPS will help, not sure if they will download the ephemeris data for those areas. The first satellite your phone can link onto will then transmit ephemeris data to your phone and tell it what other satellites should be visable at the moment and the upcoming schedule for the upcoming time periods. It then attempts to connect to the others. If it can never make that initial connection then you may never get a sync.
Just give it some time. Mine never took more than 15 minutes while standing still, tho while driving I drove for over 30 minutes once with no sync, however I came to a long stop light 2-3 minutes, and bam it synced. So the trick is to just sit still.
I've never been to Europe, so I can't guarantee that my advice will help.
BTC
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Thanks but I already tried all that, it doesn't seem to work when you're outside the US, I have left the phone for hours under clear sky, sometimes it will even reboot and I will need to start priming the GPS again.
There must be some special setting that I need to do in the phone.
Daved+ said:
Have anyone got the GPS on the Titan to work when you don't have network service?
I have even tried this:
http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=13024
I can get my Titan to pick like around 10 sats but it's very unlikely that I will get a lock (1 of 20 times I get a lock).
Cliff notes: What do you have to do to get the GPS on the Titan to work in Europe?
Thanks
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i don't know for sure if the following will work outside the US.
open up a registry editor, i use PHM Registry editor
go to this key
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/supl agps
change the following, if they need it, to:
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 4
click ok, quit the reg editor, do a soft reset and go back to make sure the settings took.
this will allow you to use the stand alone gps without the need of being in cell tower range. google maps will not work, since it uses the data connection to load the maps.
GPS Mode 4?
g2145 said:
i don't know for sure if the following will work outside the US.
open up a registry editor, i use PHM Registry editor
go to this key
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/supl agps
change the following, if they need it, to:
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 4
click ok, quit the reg editor, do a soft reset and go back to make sure the settings took.
this will allow you to use the stand alone gps without the need of being in cell tower range. google maps will not work, since it uses the data connection to load the maps.
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Isnt GPS Mode 4 only for Sprint users?
i don't know myself if it is carrier specific.
i do know it works on my sprint mogul.
Hi everyone, first I want to apologize for my bad english, I will try to explain my problem. I'm from Venezuela, my cell phone carrier is Movilnet, my Titan setup is ROM DCD 3.3.4, Radio 3.2.50, PRI 2.03. The problem is: when I'm on cell phone service area my GPS never gets a lock, unless I let the phone all night with the GPS software trying to lock.
But, when I travel out of the city to an area whitout cell phone coverage, I can get a lock within 2 minutes, consistently, even after a soft or hard reset.
I'm using VisualGPSce to monitoring and priming the GPS, but I also had tried GPS Test, GPS Viewer, GPS toogle, etc. I had noticed that, when I'm trying to lock with VisualGPSce, the software give me a initial position that is 180º wrong, i.e. If the right coordinated is N8º 20,91 W62º 39,14, the software shows N8º 20,91 E62º 39,14. I had tried in flight mode with no success, also disabling aGPS in the registry, may be I will try a QPST config, but I don't know what config can I change.
My thery is that the cell phone towers create some kind of "conflict" and messed up all the GPS syncronization, may be the time syncronization, I don't know.
Thanks for your help.
g2145 said:
i don't know for sure if the following will work outside the US.
open up a registry editor, i use PHM Registry editor
go to this key
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/supl agps
change the following, if they need it, to:
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 4
click ok, quit the reg editor, do a soft reset and go back to make sure the settings took.
this will allow you to use the stand alone gps without the need of being in cell tower range. google maps will not work, since it uses the data connection to load the maps.
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Won't get a lock with those settings... I will pick a lot of sats but will never get a lock.
Seems the GPS on the Mogul won't work in Europe or anywhere outside NA.
anddy78 said:
Hi everyone, first I want to apologize for my bad english, I will try to explain my problem. I'm from Venezuela, my cell phone carrier is Movilnet, my Titan setup is ROM DCD 3.3.4, Radio 3.2.50, PRI 2.03. The problem is: when I'm on cell phone service area my GPS never gets a lock, unless I let the phone all night with the GPS software trying to lock.
But, when I travel out of the city to an area whitout cell phone coverage, I can get a lock within 2 minutes, consistently, even after a soft or hard reset.
I'm using VisualGPSce to monitoring and priming the GPS, but I also had tried GPS Test, GPS Viewer, GPS toogle, etc. I had noticed that, when I'm trying to lock with VisualGPSce, the software give me a initial position that is 180º wrong, i.e. If the right coordinated is N8º 20,91 W62º 39,14, the software shows N8º 20,91 E62º 39,14. I had tried in flight mode with no success, also disabling aGPS in the registry, may be I will try a QPST config, but I don't know what config can I change.
My thery is that the cell phone towers create some kind of "conflict" and messed up all the GPS syncronization, may be the time syncronization, I don't know.
Thanks for your help.
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What GPS settings do you have in your registry?
daved+
what rom are you using?
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daved+
what rom are you using?
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I am using a rom made by myself with BuildOS but I also tried DCD and other ROMs with the same result.
If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
i had an idea of you trying to get a gps lock without installing the carrier cab..just to see for the heck of it.
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i had an idea of you trying to get a gps lock without installing the carrier cab..just to see for the heck of it.
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Well, that's exactly the point, getting a gps lock when you don't have a carrier (no network service at all).
GPSMode
Daved+ said:
Won't get a lock with those settings... I will pick a lot of sats but will never get a lock.
Seems the GPS on the Mogul won't work in Europe or anywhere outside NA.
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Try GPSMode 2. That is what I use.
oneders65 said:
Try GPSMode 2. That is what I use.
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Believe me, I've tried all modes.
I supposed mode 2 would work because that's the factory mode on the GSM models that works on networks with no aGPS, yeah, I have even copied the settings from a GSM TyTN II and a Touch Cruise, they won't do the trick on the Titan.
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What GPS settings do you have in your registry?
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After the hard reset, the default registry settings was:
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 2
That works in the no cell phone service area, but in the city, doesn't work.
you can use standalone gps with some of the radio versions:
3.35.04: gps mode 2: no lock, no reboot
3.39.10: gps mode 2: one lock, 1x reboot effect
3.41.00: gps mode 2: 3x constant locks, good navigation, no proven reboots
3.41.00: gps mode 1/disabled smart, disabled agps 0x constant locks, 2x proven reboots
3.42.02: gps mode 2: 1x reboot effect
3.42.30: gps mode 2: no lock, no reboot
3.42.40: running: 3x lock, 0x reboot (disabled smart, disabled agps, gps mode 1)
3.42.50: gps mode 2:1x reboot effect
i used own cooked rom with ppckitchen 20931, a gps software to initialize it (Sirftech, free) reprogrammed the phone with qpst (all gps checkboxes on like recommended somewhere in the forum) and much patience... a lock need sometimes up to 2 hours from window (had to connect the phone on the glass in 2nd floor), outdoor it locks while remaining in the car and myself going shopping for some time.
Sometimes with working configuration it never locks, sometimes it does, no matter how much sattelites in view (mostly 5 to 10)
The reboot occurs in my opinion in the moment the phone gets a lock - some user assumed it only happends if you stay outside usa.
I am in germany (no network available) and have disabled phone, wlan, bluetooth.
Try 3.42.40, use gps mode 1, disable agps, and use sirftech - if that doesnt help, post again...
cyclon1978 said:
you can use standalone gps with some of the radio versions:
3.35.04: gps mode 2: no lock, no reboot
3.39.10: gps mode 2: one lock, 1x reboot effect
3.41.00: gps mode 2: 3x constant locks, good navigation, no proven reboots
3.41.00: gps mode 1/disabled smart, disabled agps 0x constant locks, 2x proven reboots
3.42.02: gps mode 2: 1x reboot effect
3.42.30: gps mode 2: no lock, no reboot
3.42.40: running: 3x lock, 0x reboot (disabled smart, disabled agps, gps mode 1)
3.42.50: gps mode 2:1x reboot effect
i used own cooked rom with ppckitchen 20931, a gps software to initialize it (Sirftech, free) reprogrammed the phone with qpst (all gps checkboxes on like recommended somewhere in the forum) and much patience... a lock need sometimes up to 2 hours from window (had to connect the phone on the glass in 2nd floor), outdoor it locks while remaining in the car and myself going shopping for some time.
Sometimes with working configuration it never locks, sometimes it does, no matter how much sattelites in view (mostly 5 to 10)
The reboot occurs in my opinion in the moment the phone gets a lock - some user assumed it only happends if you stay outside usa.
I am in germany (no network available) and have disabled phone, wlan, bluetooth.
Try 3.42.40, use gps mode 1, disable agps, and use sirftech - if that doesnt help, post again...
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THANKSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's exactly what I needed to know!!!!
I'm using 3.42.50, now I know why I can't get a lock.
I will flash the 3.42.40 radio, I hope I can do the same on the Vogue.
Thanks again!!!!!
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Try 3.42.40, use gps mode 1, disable agps, and use sirftech - if that doesnt help, post again...
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Posting again... After around 40 min, the phone rebooted, no lock at that moment but it was seeing 4 sats.
Do I try with a different radio or different settings?
Thanks
I now have 100% gps reception after letting the device ~20 minutes in the car. So i will post my configuration and hope it helps:
ROM Version: 3.08.666.1 (ppckitchen selfmade, nothing special included)
Radio Version: 3.42.40
Hardware Version 3
PRL 60613
PRI 2.03_003 (these doesnt really matter in airplane mode)
I use the "10 items" communication manager with all disabled except of flight mode.
Registry: Default from rom plus the following changes:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:EnableAGPS = 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:EnableGPSSmartMode = 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:GPSMode = 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:QoSAccuracy = 25
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:QosPerformance = 89
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS:TimeBetweenFixes = 1000
All values are decimal, not hex!
i think that changing QoSAccuracy from 50 to 25 and TimeBetweenFixes from 1 to 1000 had absolutely no effect. So you should try to change only the first 3 values...
in QPST service programming i have disabled "Allowed" because i read it will not disable the gps but the agps - thats true. I have checked and unchecked all boxes, checked only Autonomous and GPS/AFLT Hybrid.
... in all times i got a lock i started the device from power off mode (pressing power button long time)!
Hi,
Since we alwas have to go into settings to make bluetooth visible for 120(?) seconds i was wondering if it is possible to make bluetooth always visible.
I found this guide: http://blag.tsukasa.net.au/2009/08/25/always-discoverable-on-android/
But it seems like hcid.conf is not present on 2.1 roms.
Can we get this to work on 2.1 roms?
Ty!
are you speaking from the pov of the hero being needing to be discovered by another device?
that isn't the sort of thing one needs to do more than one time per device though. once you've done it, the other device should remember the hero's info. just enable bt next time on both devices and voila, it should connect. right?
and there is the power control widget to enable/disable bt (along with other alternatives on the market and the sense toggle widgets if you're on a sense rom).
If you want your bt to be set to "discoverable" constantly then your battery will disappear really fast and it's a security risk as well (hence this feature doesn't exist in any bt device I've used including android). that's why apps like "bump" enable it only when, well, bumped, and in a way that both devices can talk briefly without user configuration necessary (but still user approval and instructions are needed before any file/secure info transfers can occur).
there's a difference between these three modes:
bt off (saves most power, bt is battery hungry...),
bt on (icon in display; can connect to devices that it has previously been paired with such as your bt handsfree or your computer for file transfers just be enabling the other device's bt - this puts it in sort of a receive mode where it will ack the other device to show itself but doesn't use a TON of battery, however it's still better for battery to turn off bt when not in use)
bt on and discoverable (which is, by bt design, only going to run for a short period such as 2 minutes because it opens up your device to others seeing it and trying to add it and also is transmitting over bt constantly so uses the most signal... 2 minutes seems pretty long to me actually, I've seen shorter in other devices).
I'm sorry, but that is just rubbish.
I've had Nokia's since bluetooth was first released, and they have always been discoverable. Their battery hasn't been worn down by that either.
If bluetooth is on but not discoverable, then your device is constantly looking for those devices that it has been paired with before. If it is discoverable, then other devices can pick up on this and locate your phone - same battery usage, surely.
Take for example now, I'm sat in a public area and I can search for devices. The devices that show up are therefore discoverable, no? In that case, plenty of devices are discoverable.
To be discoverable and hidden behind a password is no issue, and it amazed me that Android missed this out. It was infact one of the things I disliked about Blackberry.
It doesn't kill battery (any more than having undiscoverable bluetooth on), and it is a useful service - if a friend (who hasn't accessed my device before) wishes to send me a file, I don't expect to have to pull out my phone, tell it that it can expect a file, before accepting the password and waiting for said file. It's just an extra, unnecessary step.
What is the point of having bluetooth on, if no other device (other than those with previous access) can see it?
"Someone is trying to send you a file" is all you need. That is what happens in 'discoverable' mode. That is what Android is missing.
yes its a shame on x10 too is smart phone weakness. x10 kick a//
The setting you're searching for is in /system/etc/bluetooth/main.conf
DiscoverableTimeout = 0
The default is 120 (2 minutes). 0 will stay on forever.
Actually I found that in /etc/bluez/main.conf with root explorer but how to edit that value to 0?
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Actually I found that in /etc/bluez/main.conf with root explorer but how to edit that value to 0?
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mount the folder as r/w and if you long press, choose to open in text editor
Tnx dude, I forgot to long press on file, what I did was open the file and than try to edit. But I've edited the value now to 0 or 600, reboot phone and when bt is on discoverable again shows only 120 seconds?
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Tnx dude, I forgot to long press on file, what I did was open the file and than try to edit. But I've edited the value now to 0 or 600, reboot phone and when bt is on discoverable again shows only 120 seconds?
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Could you check if the value in the file also has been reverted?
I check instantly after I saw that he shows 120 seconds and the value was 0.
hi all
will you please show a step by step how to configure the bluetooth discoverable time.
thank you