I owned a HTC Wizard, and now I just got a Atom.
To refresh ROM into HTC Wizard, first you have to determine the device version is G3 or G4, and get the IPL/SPL version, then unlock the Cid. Otherwise the Wizard would be bricked.
But I noticed in the atom updating, few thread talk about Cid, IPL/SPL, or G3/G4,
Does Atom need unlock the Cid? or IPL/SPL? or bootloader?
arboboo said:
I owned a HTC Wizard, and now I just got a Atom.
To refresh ROM into HTC Wizard, first you have to determine the device version is G3 or G4, and get the IPL/SPL version, then unlock the Cid. Otherwise the Wizard would be bricked.
But I noticed in the atom updating, few thread talk about Cid, IPL/SPL, or G3/G4, Does Atom need unlock the Cid? or IPL/SPL? or bootloader?
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Welcome to the atom family =)
As I understand what you are trying to say is flash the rom (as stated above as refresh). There is a different way for the atom in upgrading the rom, unlike in your previous unit as wizard. it would be better if you will read the wiki first prior to flashing the rom at once. You would be more familiar with your unit as well, just click on my sig on the wiki and all your questions will be answered. enjoy reading!
updated rom successfully.
Thanks a lot
arboboo said:
updated rom successfully.
Thanks a lot
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Good to hear that =)
the reason other devices need to unlock CID is to flash other ROMs. CID - country ID. if you have a CHT device and want to move to WWE, BUT there is no CID unlocking in Atom because you simply change the hex values in ROM and you can flash it to your device. So, no need for it.
tjlabais said:
the reason other devices need to unlock CID is to flash other ROMs. CID - country ID. if you have a CHT device and want to move to WWE, BUT there is no CID unlocking in Atom because you simply change the hex values in ROM and you can flash it to your device. So, no need for it.
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better said by the master himself
Related
Ok i am going to start a list of roms that dont have the IPL/SPL included that can be flashed to the G4 type devices
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2.rar
I am currently running this rom it is very fast and i like it i have added a few items to mine from molskis cabs to tweak it to my liking
MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE is also runs on G4 locked wizards. but it's not makes me happier, cuz not one of AKU3.x does flash.
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
Your help is needed!
This will help the Guru's determine if there's a compatability issue with the higher ipl/spl devices. (it appears some G4 devices can be upgraded, while others might not be able to. )
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
vippie said:
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
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post ur current windows version
No success for the Molski's with me...
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
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post ur current windows version
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OS: 2.26.10.2
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
sunmoon said:
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
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Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
sunmoon said:
Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4 (short of the new pay way). FWIW, the noid change suggested should work (G4 here it works on no problem).
Thunder_PC said:
Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4
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just a thread above u describes how.
here's the online unlocking service in case u wont find it on forum: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Well, the Wizard Love ROM mentioned in the first post worked. It's using the new NoID_RUU. My phone has been upgraded to OS 2.26.10.2 AKU 2.3 now.
same for me. I have 2.21.001, CID Locked and Wizard love took my aku from 2.0 to 2.3, all works great.
@azapa .. 2.21.001 means u have a G3 device and the discussion is for G4 devices only !
following is my device info :
IPL /SPL 2.21.0001
GSM 01.07.10
OS 2.21.4.1
i have a o2 mini s and have not changed the rom even once on this device
so , from what a gather , the rom mentioned in the first page ( wizard_love) will work on my device ????
and r there any advantages , i mean in speed and performance ??
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
Running Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB, works fine. Allthough I needed to flash it twice to get the OS part updated.
Not sure if my device is CID-locked or not, how can I check to make sure?
i think all are locked ... not sure myself if there is any way to check ??
Wizard-Love works in my O2 with CID locked!
@dodadent .. is it any better than yr old rom ? what was yr old rom version ? and whats yr IPL and SPL ??
i was just checking out the rom update utility and its not in english !!!! cant understand a word .... somebody help !!
I am currently running the Cingular 2.25.0001 ipl/spl .. is there a better one out there that would be safe to upgrade to on my 8125 G4?
lol.. No one has any suggestions?! lol .. I see a couple people with 2.26 and 3.08 .. just wondering how those would work with my G4
You've got a WHOLE LOT of reading to do if you're thinking about changing your IPL/SPL on a G4 Wizard.
Good Luck!!
that's what I figured.. I wasnt sure if it was safe to do... or easier to do with my CID unlocked..
This thread would be the perfect place to start.
HA! Thanks newbie.. I guess I will be leaving my IPL/SPL alone .. .. Maybe I will wait for cingular to make an update.. lol.
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
apparently doesnt let you make calls. every time i try to dial a number, it says your international call cannot be completed as dialed... its useless, i just did it on my g3.
Madcap180 said:
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
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IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
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Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
Zzan said:
IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
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I have a G4 CID locked phone and IPL/SPL thats older than 2.26 and I see no reason to update them still, considering that I can upgrade everything else (OS, radio, ext rom, splash) without touching IPL/SPL. Of course, I am a little more cautious having bricked (yes, real "replacement required" type brick) my phone once.
120.fr said:
Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
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It's been a long time since you did this. Is it still working for you?
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628 With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL & reflash to your favorite ROM
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mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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@mestrini I am guessing you did not try this route.
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
Mr.Viet said:
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
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Only if your G4 Wizard is CID unlocked, but i guess it's not...
CyberianIce said:
You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
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why? even with NoID updater it's not possible to update a locked G4?
Hi,
Is it always necessary to cid unlock a device (G4) for WM6 flashing?
Because I read that there is currently no way doing this for free... or?
Thanks.
Megabug said:
Hi,
Is it always necessary to cid unlock a device (G4) for WM6 flashing?
Because I read that there is currently no way doing this for free... or?
Thanks.
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Read the wiki at first. You don´t have to unlock for flashing, but to downgrade your prophet to a special version. Then you can flash some of the versions you prefer.
Schaeferreiner said:
Read the wiki at first. You don´t have to unlock for flashing, but to downgrade your prophet to a special version. Then you can flash some of the versions you prefer.
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CID lock has nothing to do with the OS. you can upgrade/downgrade your OS with CID lock phone. on the other hand you can not dowgrade your IPL/SPL if your phone is CID lock. ( don't change IPL/SPL if you don't know what they are)
Yes, before I can upgrade to WM6 it should be AKU2.2 ... Which software version is it when I look at device information?
so, if i have a g4 model with wm5, can i upgrade with the PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch? i've been reading wiki, but... there are always some kind of a fear to do the things for the first time...
thank's wiki's masters!
I have a G4 with
IPL: 2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM: 02.07.10
OS:2.18.7.2
i have WM 5.1.xx and i want to upgrade the rom, i'll see TNT and SNN 3.0 but i can upgrade because the upgrade tool give me ERROR300, do you know how can upgrade? witch is the best ROM image for this phone?
And one more question, what's a G4 phone, with diferrences have from a G3 and other's
Sorry this questions, but, i'm a begginer.
Thank's
Tony
tony-coimbra said:
I have a G4 with
IPL: 2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM: 02.07.10
OS:2.18.7.2
i have WM 5.1.xx and i want to upgrade the rom, i'll see TNT and SNN 3.0 but i can upgrade because the upgrade tool give me ERROR300, do you know how can upgrade? witch is the best ROM image for this phone?
And one more question, what's a G4 phone, with diferrences have from a G3 and other's
Sorry this questions, but, i'm a begginer.
Thank's
Tony
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Read and fully understand the guide posted here in the Wiki, it'll answer all your questions and procedure to upgrade a G4 device to wm6.
BTW,you can't just download any wm6 Rom and upgrade your phone with it,its first requires to do CID unlock the phone,but a G4 device cannot be CID unlocked like a G3 phone,coz it has different M-System Flash Chip type DOC Chip with altogether different IPL/SPL (Bootloaders),which are specifically made not to be easily CID unlocked like the G3 devices. This is the only difference in a G3 and G4 devices,otherwise,they are basically same as regards to specifications and features.
However,a G4 device can still be upgraded to wm6 Roms with other methods called 'HardSPL' and 'SoftSPL',check out this link or the 'Stickies' posted at the top of this thread as "hardSPL' and 'SoftSPL' for upgrading to wm6 :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
zabardast_1 said:
Read and fully understand the guide posted here in the Wiki, it'll answer all your questions and procedure to upgrade a G4 device to wm6.
BTW,you can't just download any wm6 Rom and upgrade your phone with it,its first requires to do CID unlock the phone,but a G4 device cannot be CID unlocked like a G3 phone,coz it has different M-System Flash Chip type DOC Chip with altogether different IPL/SPL (Bootloaders),which are specifically made not to be easily CID unlocked like the G3 devices. This is the only difference in a G3 and G4 devices,otherwise,they are basically same as regards to specifications and features.
However,a G4 device can still be upgraded to wm6 Roms with other methods called 'HardSPL' and 'SoftSPL',check out this link or the 'Stickies' posted at the top of this thread as "hardSPL' and 'SoftSPL' for upgrading to wm6 :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
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My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
tony-coimbra said:
My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
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Its SIM unlocked not CID unlocked. SIM unlock is very different than CID unlock,with SIM unlock you can insert and use any SIM of any other network,but with CID unlock you can flash or upgrade to any wm6 or latest Rom. The reason you have not been able to upgrade to any of the above mentioned in your first post is coz your phone is CID locked,it won't upgrade untill its CID unlocked,ok
tony-coimbra said:
My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
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Hello once again, I red about t, and I was trying to make the procedements off the manual, but i get 2 problems:
If i try to Run HARD_SPL in the PC with XP, when Open the Dos window, the program gives Error, don't copy the files to device and windows close, i try in a different PC and the problem is the same.
When I Run in vista, pass the dos windows, and copy to device, the screen stay White, but when i make next in the update TOOL, the program crach, windows give me a messagem, program don't responding....
Can anyone help me?
try running it from Command Prompt.
starkwong said:
try running it from Command Prompt.
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I do that test with XP or Vista?
tony-coimbra said:
I do that test with XP or Vista?
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Win XP is recommended.
zabardast_1 said:
Win XP is recommended.
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Hello, run from Command Prompt don't resolve the problem, when the apliccation try to copy to pda give me---> cecopy.exe -> apliccation error
hi,
i was wondering if anyone could help me
trying to flash official t-mobile ruu (with ExtROM) onto o2 XDA
but CID locked, therefore unable to
can flash the OS rom using shelltool, but ExtROM is still O2
does anyone know how I can flash the official t-mobile tom using the RUU?
thanks for your advice
anonymous1 said:
hi,
i was wondering if anyone could help me
trying to flash official t-mobile ruu (with ExtROM) onto o2 XDA
but CID locked, therefore unable to
can flash the OS rom using shelltool, but ExtROM is still O2
does anyone know how I can flash the official t-mobile tom using the RUU?
thanks for your advice
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Which is your device,G3 or G4 ?
If you have a CID locked G3 phone,there's no need to use 'ShellTool',the T-mobile is also an official rom with its own extended rom,it'll flash easily,just flash it straight without shelltool.
thank you for the reply zabardast_1
I have a G4 device
I have tryed running the official RUU, but get an error message, because I think the device is CID locked. That is why I used shelltool (and also tryed soft SPL and hard SPL without any luck flashing the comeplete ROM)
As I said, I can flash the OS ROM using shelltool, but not extended ROM. Is it possible to flash the whole RUU?
I've been searching the various forums to see if there is a (free) method of CID unlocking a G4 device, but I think many may have lost interest with the wizard with all the other devices coming out.
Any and all help gratefully received. Thank you
anonymous1 said:
thank you for the reply zabardast_1
I have a G4 device
I have tryed running the official RUU, but get an error message, because I think the device is CID locked. That is why I used shelltool (and also tryed soft SPL and hard SPL without any luck flashing the comeplete ROM)
As I said, I can flash the OS ROM using shelltool, but not extended ROM. Is it possible to flash the whole RUU?
I've been searching the various forums to see if there is a (free) method of CID unlocking a G4 device, but I think many may have lost interest with the wizard with all the other devices coming out.
Any and all help gratefully received. Thank you
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G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,if you want to upgrade or install any other rom use 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',
YES ! you can only flash 'nk.nbf' (OS files) only with SoftSPL or HardSPL,but Extended_rom is not possible.
zabardast_1 said:
G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,if you want to upgrade or install any other rom use 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',
YES ! you can only flash 'nk.nbf' (OS files) only with SoftSPL or HardSPL,but Extended_rom is not possible.
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Figured as much!
Hence my question