There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
There's no lack of GPS anymore But there is a lack of being able to send pictures!
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If your an engineer with Sprint...tell us what the holdup is.
I'd love to know what can be so baffleing to the entire company that months and months of work can't figure out.
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
lucy, you got some splainin to do
LOL...............
chubzilla said:
There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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If you're an actual engineer with Sprint, maybe you could tell us what we will be expecting from this new ROM, besides Rev A and GPS. Are the rumors running around here true about:
Windows 6.1
Sprint TV
etc.
Please enlighten us.......... It's driving us INSANE!
So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
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So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
gimme a break this dude comes in here and spews out some garble about how hes an engineer COUGH COUGH he dont even know about the gps that WE all have already. Dude go somewhere else and play, none of us in here fell off the potato truck last knight. in fact I think i hear your mom calling you.
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
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If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
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so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
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you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
It's nice to see Sprint being so concerned and cautious with their update. But then again, you work for Sprint, so shouldn't your statement be, "...we need it to run stable..." ?
Anyway, in the immortal words of Wayne, "Yeah... right... and monkeys might fly out my butt!"
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If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
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i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
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the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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"I'll believe that when my s*&t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!"
Honestly, we know how this will go.. you claim it'll have SprintTv, then when it doesn't come out with Sprint TV, then one of 2 things will happen...
1) You don't reply to questions directed toward you because you're full of bologna
2) You do reply, and give us some bologna about how Sprint decided to not include it for some oddball reason.
If Sprint TV really does get put on a ROM in the future, then i'll give you respect, but until it happens, you can't just come into a community spouting off fiction hoping that people will think you're cool.. Honestly. Like i said, if you are who you say you are, then you'll get respect when what you say happens!
chubzilla said:
you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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I thought the Touch didnt have the GPS antenna? Or is it just Wi-Fi?
defaultdotxbe said:
i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
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I can also confirm that I had no problems with DCD's ROM...
Back on topic, since all the good quotes have been taken, I'll believe this when I see it. I mean, it would be nice, but the day the OEM's give us a good ROM (that can't be made better by the likes of DCD, No2Chem, etc) is the day I stop using all devices and move to a cabin in the mountains without power...
The Touch may get updated first? I'm beginning to wonder if the next official Mogul update comes pre-installed in a Mogul 2.
First post here (from my Mogul) but long time lurker. Just running 2.17 but I'm tempted to install a dcd. My main concern is the radio stability as I like to stream alot of audio.
chubzilla, you had to know when you posted who you were, you would take alot of shots from people on this site. There are alot of angry people here that have been waiting for sprint and HTC to get off there butts and fix the problems with the mogul.
I guess what I would like to see is an official response from sprint about the status of the ROM Update other than "Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008."
Outdated information like this just inflames customers.
just my 2 pennies
HI guys, I'm an engineer in TF2. Someone is zappin my sentury.
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Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
Won't work you need the new radio, and rom.
Mine is working without any problems, and the radio is great.
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Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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well, the new radio is a BETA after all. and i havent had any problems with it. The new radio is what enables the GPS in the phone, and the 3.16 based roms have the drivers that are needed for gps. so these go hand in hand. you need em both for gps.
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Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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No problems for me, works great and couldn't be happier with everyones work on getting the GPS and Rev A to work. I appreciate all the work that people are putting in to get all this going. I guess you'll just have to wait until your carrier releases their updated ROM with GPS enabled, maybe that will be less problematic for you.
I am betting when this is released there will be a newer radio, this is a beta and the radio is at least a couple of months old, I am sure they have done some tweaking since then, at least if they are seeing the same issues one would hope they have tweaked a bit more here and there.
Same goes for the rom piece of it it is an old beta as well they are both 2 months old, so whatever Sprint and/or HTC has been doing for the past 2 months is unknown.
You Sprint folks should all be happy to me it seems Sprint is the only provider that gives half a rats ass. On Telus the last rom came out back in the beginning of July and none of the other Canadian providers that carry this phone have provided any updates whatsoever.
As Fallingup said this is a beta and the issues we are seeing from the radio patch exhibit normal BETA behavior...
Hell even HTC is convinced the Radio isn't ready for Primetime and keep delaying the release! That says to me they have hit some roadblocks they are having trouble dealing with.
It would not surprise me at all if HTC consciously decided to leak this radio so that the community could take a crack at solving those issues and give them some ideas on how to fix the patch.
I am hoping someone in the community is looking at this beta version of radio and looking for ways to improve that....
Cause I'm betting the second someone can tweak that radio to work well, HTC will take that file and use it as a roadmap for an official release!
stevenewjersey said:
Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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Some people have terrrible issues. Some have none at all. I have no problems at all. This is the best set up I have had. I am using the new Radio and Bootloader with a variation of DCD 2.2.0 ROM. Working great. What specific ROM are you using?
scrosler said:
Some people have terrrible issues. Some have none at all. I have no problems at all. This is the best set up I have had. I am using the new Radio and Bootloader with a variation of DCD 2.2.0 ROM. Working great. What specific ROM are you using?
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the actual results are somewhere in between...the ones with zero issues either don't use data connect extensively or haven't really run everything through it's paces. How could they the ROM is only a day old! LOL
Others just have issues with the 6.1 OS and still others have issues just flashing. The latter is simply user error and that will always be there no way around that. You have to know those issues will show up even if the perfectly stable ROM gets released.
The Radio is IMO definitly not ready for prime time. between the BT issues, Data Connect and the problem of having to prime the GPS before a navigation software like TomTom can use it there will have to be another update to the radio ROM before we can be sure we gain GPS capability without losing anything else...
Right now Radio appears to be a bit of a tradeoff as opposed to a simple feature addition.
Once an official (as opposed to leaked) radio comes out I think all the REAL problems people are having will go away.
Asphyx said:
Cause I'm betting the second someone can tweak that radio to work well, HTC will take that file and use it as a roadmap for an official release!
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That would be funny as hell. Imagine if they ended up using a Radio that someone here on XDA-Dev was tweaking!! I hope they get commisisons
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That would be funny as hell. Imagine if they ended up using a Radio that someone here on XDA-Dev was tweaking!! I hope they get commisisons
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As far as I know nobody here on XDA Dev has actually tweaked a Radio. People put together firmware files from other stuff, and bundle them all together, but to actually fix and recompile a radio file goes much deeper than anyone here handles.
I have had only one problem running dcd 2.10 and 2.20. I have run critically low on memory once. This has never happened before.
But as for the radio and OS, I think my call quality is noticably better than with the stock rom or any of dcd's 1.x rom/radio setups that I have tested.
Oh, just FYI, I'm in Utah. I wonder if the radio issues have to do with a difference in radio hardware on the towers in New Jersey.
After reading for several days and hearing the good the bad and the ugly I opted for the straight leaked rom. No unlocking and all that.
Well so far so good. GPS works, RevA not a real difference so far
Fairly stable. Happy with my beta software until the official release
vetvito said:
Won't work you need the new radio, and rom.
Mine is working without any problems, and the radio is great.
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Yup, me too.
As a matter of fact, I'm not going to go to DCD's 2.2.1 until this current flash (on my phone) bombs. 2.2.0 is working great for me.
For those who claim to have no problems...
Try downloading a file larger than 1 MB in PIE or Opera...
The issue has NOTHING to do with DCD's work...
Definitly the Radio...
There only problems I have seen with the 2.2X Roms DCD has put out is some issues with installing programs on the storage card...
But if I know DCD that will be fixed rather quickly.
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
3.0.4 came out months ago. try updating to 3.3.4 and see if you come across any differences in dcd's latest and the stock rom. i guarantee you will never go back to stock.
edit: i also recommend updating to the 3.42.50 radio. much better reception, and i havent gotten a dropped call since i updated. (although i rarely got them before. ohh verizon...)
also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
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Did you PAY for DCD's release? If not, then be MORE considerate, he's releasing ROM's because he can, not because it's his job....
Its pretty straight forward
Install DCD 3.3.4
You gain memory, speed, GPS abilities, etc.
You haven't been reading if you simply think there are no differences.
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3.0.4 came out months ago. try updating to 3.3.4 and see if you come across any differences in dcd's latest and the stock rom. i guarantee you will never go back to stock.
edit: i also recommend updating to the 3.42.50 radio. much better reception, and i havent gotten a dropped call since i updated. (although i rarely got them before. ohh verizon...)
also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
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I know all about the legality of recording calls. Thats beaten to death and back. I still prefer to do it.
I know its free. I'm not disrespecting the guy for making it.
You guys still didnt answer the questions about recordings and youtube.
Also is there a executable for the new radio rom? I have hell trying to get my sd card to work to do this. I dont have 100% the proper equipment to do it, but I can still do it this way, it just takes me alot longer and is alot more tedious and annoying.
Also does the sprint provided one not come with GPS enabled? I haven't reinstalled google maps just yet to find out.
If it's beaten to death, you would know that the hardware in the mogul is not capable of recording calls.
what I use for Youtube
Try these cabs.
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Try these cabs.
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I see no cabs? Rename the .zip to a .cab?
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If it's beaten to death, you would know that the hardware in the mogul is not capable of recording calls.
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Thank you for showing me the similarities between legality and hardware It's almost as if black = white now. Yes yes, I see it now.
In case you didnt understand I ment the legality issue of recording phone calls has been beaten to death across every google result I've found.
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also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
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Depends on your local laws. The state laws where I'm at allows you to record phone calls as long as one person knows about it. Which is of course you who is recording the conversation. Trust me...been down that road and had to use a couple in court before.
Pardon me, if I may
ElementalWindX said:
Thank you for showing me the similarities between legality and hardware It's almost as if black = white now. Yes yes, I see it now.
In case you didnt understand I ment the legality issue of recording phone calls has been beaten to death across every google result I've found.
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Why do I sense arrogance in you. I mean, isn't there any other way to ask your question or make a point without it sounding like that? DCD does great work, and true enough you nee to try his ROMs before you comment on no difference. I have used all his ROMs and each time there is a remarkable difference, GPS Speed, good audio, nice reception.
Youtube: If you search the forum, there are many ways to get youtube, I would suggest you tell us what type of youtube app you are trying to use because there are just so many.
As for recording calls, there are apps out there that can do this. JUst google it, and you will have more than enough to try. If there are errors, don't blame the ROM. DCD ROMS are more functional and bring less stress to the RAM than the bloated Sprint ROM.
unzip
ElementalWindX said:
I see no cabs? Rename the .zip to a .cab?
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unzip the zip file.
You guys still didnt answer the questions about recordings and youtube.
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It's not the jobs of the people on this forum to solve your problems for you. If they do, great, but you shouldn't be using an attitude that makes it seem like you think everyone on here is being paid to solve problems for you. Maybe you didn't mean this line to come across as rude but it sure seems very rude to me.
The Flash Video Bundle with TCPMP that was posted works very well for YouTube.
You could also try this cab:
http://drop.io/YouTube_M2D
Also is there a executable for the new radio rom? I have hell trying to get my sd card to work to do this. I dont have 100% the proper equipment to do it, but I can still do it this way, it just takes me alot longer and is alot more tedious and annoying.
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You only need an SD card... nothing else. If you have an SD card you have 100% of the proper equipment. Everything can be done directly on the phone without even having a computer. You might need software to extract a .zip or .rar file at the most although it seems you're not familiar with compressed archives (zip files) so flashing your phone might be a little advanced for you. If your SD card doesn't work very well for flashing, buy a new one. They are extremely cheap for the low capacity ones which is what you need for flashing anyway.
You claim not to mean any disrespect for DCD's ROM but then you're whining about how you think there's no point to using it and why hasn't someone fixed some problem you were having when they have... I think a better attitude might make people more willing to help you.
Well put unL33T,
I would have just called this guy a douche bag and written a note-to-self to ignore all future posts by ElementalWindX, as so far every one of his 4 posts in this thread is dripping with jackassery.
I have a feeling that either method will be just as ineffective.
ElementalWindX said:
Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
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You do realize that many of the amazing people who develop software and ROMs for your phone do it free of charge as a hobby, right?
If you want a change log with the entire history, I recommend you go into the threads and do a lot of copy and pasting. I'm sure there are a few other people who would be appreciative if you took the effort to help out with that instead of just crying that nobody else has. Sound fair? You take, you give.
And similarly with youtube, why don't you go to hell and fix it yourself?
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
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If you press the X-Button in the top right hand corner of this browser window it should solve all your issues.
As people have already said... We develop for free. I have a ROM, DCD does, etc... I spend countless HOURS if not DAYS ON END working on this for very little in return. I do appreciate the people that have donated but lets face in reality we do this sort of thing for free. Sooo with that being said....
If you donate a very large sum of money to me I will solve ALL your phone needs. I'm waiting for the money... Let me know when its there.
Ok, I'm still waiting, why haven't you sent it yet?
Pretty ridiculous? Yes! Just like your rants about DCD's ROM.
Also, when you get a chance can you post some of your work. Seems you are here only to get what you can and not contribute back.
Thanks for whatever it is this post was SUPPOSED to bring!
Don't get caught up in arguing with this idiot. He is just trying to get a rise out of you. He cannot possibly be as stupid as he sounds. Must be an act to try and lure us in.....
Your first post wasn't completely clear. I've read it a couple times and it seemed you had a couple things to be addressed:
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
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We install these ROMS because we don't like the Sprint ROM. I can't make that anymore simple. Many/Most of us try to "break" the custom roms (like DCDs) or find the bugs in them so the programmer can refine the product. Many others are here to try something new to get better performance from their phone-- again, because they don't like the Sprint ROM.
..and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences.
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Most of the difference you dont "see" you experience. More RAM is available, the phone runs quicker and more stable. Those are the main differences you can "see" or notice.
I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
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Youtube is not something that will get fixed through a ROM. It is something that needs to be supported through software. Hence, youtubeplay, the HTC you tube application, and flash integrated web browsers.
I can't comment on the phone call recording software. I don't know anything about apps like that.
I don't see any point to this thread, if you have a question about a rom, ask it in the thread dedicated to that rom.
Also, watch the language. If you are an offending party, know that foul language is a violation of the rules here at XDA and can lead to your being banned. Remember, be respectful at all times, and if you can't do that, then don't post at all.
Thread Closed!
It's on HTC's website, dated July 7th. I haven't seen any other threads on it, and I wanted to see if anyone else has tried it. I've updated to it myself, and it seems to be an overall improvement over the version I had. There's really nothing much in the notes, though it seems they tweaked quite a bit. Most notably, it's done wonders for my battery life. I used to always come home with a phone that was nearly dead. Now I get home with 60-70% still left on the battery. It could be my imagination, but the phone seems a bit more responsive now as well. If the battery life is anything to go by, it could just be from general optimization of the ROM. Other points of interest... the activesync app is no longer self-launching, and Opera Mobile appears to have had an update as well.
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Here's the link: http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=200&act=sd&cat=all
im in the process of doing it know, ill let ya know what i think in a bit
I tried it when it 1st came out, its definitely better than the shipped rom, but its still got all of the bloatware and other b.s. that interferes with performance. IMO, you're still better off with a cooked rom.
ya i honestly cant tell a different between stock rom and this update
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
one of these day ill get around to putting a custom rom on my phone.
thiers just to many and i cant figure out which one i want
stock
if i have already unlocked my phone and running a custom rom and want to flash to this stock rom do i need to do anything different?
No, just flash as you normally do. Every couple of flashes I go back to the stock rom anyway. Probably just the "placebo" effect, but I've convinced myself it helps.
Do it for the Radio
powermatt said:
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
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Notation to everyone here this ROM includes an updated radio. 1.12.20F. So that it's self should be worth it. I run NFS rom but I am going to update to this so I can grab the updated radio. I will then jump to his. My radio is currently 1.03.16F. It also has the later PRL and PRI.
I see the in the Radio Thread in this forum that they have the alltel readio without the whole ROM. So if you want go that route. I have just found that doing a stock flash every once in awhile keeps my custom flashing less problematic.
im still having problems as far as radio signal.........and the only reason i don't just upgraded the radio is their is no alltel dump yet
I also get great battery life after the update.
Tritan21 said:
I also get great battery life after the update.
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Agree and better signal quality. Used the Field Test to check the signal.
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
chris347101 said:
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
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Go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531134
and look on the first post. In it it says how to check my signal. That will show you what you need. Lower is better for all 3 numbers it shows in the post to look at.
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typing this didn't do anything...all i got was call cant be completed as dialed
One very nice discovery I made today (because of how little I actually talk on my TP) is that they've changed the call answer screen a bit. Seems they took a page from Apple's book and changed the answer and ignore buttons into a slider. You slide it all the way left to answer, and right to ignore. Should fix the accidental answer problem I know a lot of people (including myself) have had.
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
IDrinkV8 said:
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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I wouldn't attempt it if I were you. Have you considered trying a custom rom? If you've never done it I could help you through the process. Stock roms SUCK!
Can i ask you if it works in a touch pro un-locked of the vodafone Italy company?
I have an alltel touch pro but my area switched to verizon now, im assuming this won't be a problem because i didn't need to do any update when they switched so im guessing the radio won't be an issue? Really want to do this if it increases battery.
Also will this remove any settings or themes that kind of stuff?
edit nevermind i see it removes everything.
if i take my memory card out before i update can will all the programs that are one it reinstall? and when i put all my backed up data back on the device do the programs reinstall or do i have to do something to reinstall them?
.....to having a working Gingerbread rom for the Vibrant? Is this rom going to contain the keys to getting a fully functional build?
One can only hope.
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We already have 3+ gingerbread roms from a month ago... Why do you want a build that will take longer? The devs can probably put the features from it to ours but that may be it, the remove service.jar won't work I dont think so.
according to the samsung site Vibrant is to be supported through a 2.3 gingerbread release, but then that is the Samsung site and they probably release 2.3 after we all moved on to something else. One of the problems most phone manufacturers of android have discovered, is how quickly the upgrading demand is. They did not anticipate that we the public would get so savvy so fast.
But My guess 2.3 release will be in Aug-Sept after the S2 release
Official i900 rom rolling out already!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-now-rolling-out-across-europe/
Isn't cm7 2.3.3?
dcaples002 said:
Isn't cm7 2.3.3?
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CM7 and MIUI are 2.3.3 yes.
dcaples002 said:
Isn't cm7 2.3.3?
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yes, but OP is asking if this recent leak means we're going to get a FULLY FUNCTIONAL rom soon.
asdf916 said:
yes, but OP is asking if this recent leak means we're going to get a FULLY FUNCTIONAL rom soon.
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"Fully Functional"
Nope, never.
Most of our GPS sucks, and if GPS isn't included its not a "fully functional" rom.
so in theory, no we will never have it.
xriderx66 said:
"Fully Functional"
Nope, never.
Most of our GPS sucks, and if GPS isn't included its not a "fully functional" rom.
so in theory, no we will never have it.
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GPS works fine for some people, even without the hardware fix. So don't say we'll never have it, unless you have some insider info the rest of us don't have. This release probably won't get us any closer, but who's to say we won't get a 2.3 release for our phones. Samsung isn't as horrible at updates as we used to think. Most phones released prior didn't see it past one major update. Samsung has pushed out two major updates for a phone that's coming up on its 1st birthday. Can't say the same for many other OEMs.
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GPS works fine for some people, even without the hardware fix. So don't say we'll never have it, unless you have some insider info the rest of us don't have. This release probably won't get us any closer, but who's to say we won't get a 2.3 release for our phones. Samsung isn't as horrible at updates as we used to think. Most phones released prior didn't see it past one major update. Samsung has pushed out two major updates for a phone that's coming up on its 1st birthday. Can't say the same for many other OEMs.
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I didn't say GPS doesnt work for ALL, but be truthful, most of the GPS of Vibrants do not work, and probably wont work until you do the hardware fix or get another vibrant made at a earlier date.
I wasn't talking about updates directly from Samsung, and i've never questioned their update-mentality. I receive updates on my Samsung TV/Blu-Ray player i bought a year ago still.
I was talking about a "FULLY FUNCTIONAL" rom.
Most of the roms we already have, GPS doesn't work for most, so what makes you think it'll randomly work when we get 2.3? A Software update isn't going to do much except make it about 50 ft accuracy or something like that.
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I didn't say GPS doesnt work for ALL, but be truthful, most of the GPS of Vibrants do not work, and probably wont work until you do the hardware fix or get another vibrant made at a earlier date.
I wasn't talking about updates directly from Samsung, and i've never questioned their update-mentality. I receive updates on my Samsung TV/Blu-Ray player i bought a year ago still.
I was talking about a "FULLY FUNCTIONAL" rom.
Most of the roms we already have, GPS doesn't work for most, so what makes you think it'll randomly work when we get 2.3? A Software update isn't going to do much except make it about 50 ft accuracy or something like that.
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GPS doesn't work on the new 2.3 roms because we don't have drivers, it's a software issue. That will ABSOLUTELY change with an official release. For those with working GPS,(such as me, others who have done the hardware fix, and people who got lucky with revised Vibrant hardware) this WOULD be a fully functional rom.
I didn't say the update would magically fix a hardware problem, but the fact is the GPS issues have nothing to do with the rom, only the hardware. However with CM7, it is an issue with the rom. That's why GPS works for no one, when it worked fine on 2.2 for those without hardware issues. There is a difference between a crippled rom and crippled hardware.
.... will not be anything that is resolved here. It is a problem with the firmware for ICS.
I was talking to somebody at sprint today while I was there and showing them my device and asking if there will be any issues caused by having a virgin mobile ROM on the device. The lady explained to me that they are exactly the same, get the same reception, same update packages, and work on the same network, etc., etc.... All of this was known to me to some extent, but wanted to hear it from somebody at the company... and told me that the only problem they are having is with ICS in general is that there have been data/radio issues with the Galaxy Nexus line as well ever since it released on their network a few weeks ago.
Furthermore, she explained that this was a known bug/issue and that she knew for a fact that an update would be coming with a fix and that it was being worked on right now.
The reason I wanted to share this was because I have seen a lot of misinformation floating around about 1.) having a virgin mobile ROM on your device and 2.) virgin mobile ROM causing data issues - which is not the cause of the issue as I mentioned just now.
Just want you all to be aware of this in case you were thinking having this software and firmware on your device would cause any issues with your billing, your contract, etc. Simply put - it will not. Virgin mobile is owned by sprint, they run on the same towers, same network, and info of accounts is stored in the same place. You could literally walk into a sprint store to pay your bill for your virgin mobile account.
All is well. All is safe. An update will come to fix the data issues, keep your eyes peeled for it folks. We are not given source code for radios, etc., so unfortunately that needs to be fixed on the carrier/manufacturer end - and as I said, it will be fixed and they are working on it. Sit tight.
Hope this cleared up any misconception floating around.
So, you don't really know how to fix it then? Forgive me for being a little confused, but your title is slightly misleading.
Oh man, you have no idea how much I was freaking out about the billing. Thanks man. (Y)
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So, you're don't really know how to fix it then? Forgive me for being a little confused, but you say there is a problem with the firmware and then say that there is nothing wrong with it?
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yeah, i can see the confusion there....
re-worded, i would say it appeared to me that people thought there were data issues because of being on a virgin mobile ROM. The point I am trying to express is that the problem is the firmware, not because the ROM is for the virgin mobile 3D - if this same firmware was released for "official sprint RUU" where your banner said "sprint" they would still be having the same issues. Ex.: the lady at sprint said the galaxy nexus was having the same issue.
If that makes sense.
If not, not sure how else I can explain it.
It seemed people were crediting the problem to the fact that there device is attached to virgin mobile - this is not the case.
EDIT*** lol, nice ninja edit haus - you gotta be quicker than that roffle
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So, you don't really know how to fix it then? Forgive me for being a little confused, but your title is slightly misleading.
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I thought it was the ROM side that is giving the PRL/Data roaming and all the other network problems. Not the firmware. I say this because people have posted that they flashed the firmware, flashed the VM ICS ROM. Then went back to a GB ROM (MeanROM, MIUI, etc) and they had everything working, even though they were on the leaked firmware. But if you flashed that firmware, chad and another dev found a fix, they are going to release it sometime soon.
thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638225&page=30
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I thought it was the ROM side that is giving the PRL/Data roaming and all the other network problems. Not the firmware. I say this because people have posted that they flashed the firmware, flashed the VM ICS ROM. Then went back to a GB ROM (MeanROM, MIUI, etc) and they had everything working, even though they were on the leaked firmware. But if you flashed that firmware, chad and another dev found a fix, they are going to release it sometime soon.
thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638225&page=30
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after half a day of having flashing back they determined the problem to be gone??
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the issues being caused by the firmware are not constant, and apparently are rather random from what I have read. a perfect example is my own device... no issues with new firmware until today (day 3) of having it, even tho many people reported issues after just a couple of hours.
I'll talk with chad and see what he is cooking up... I havent talked to him a whole lot this weekend.
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I've been saying that the roaming problem (if it truly exists outside of people's self affirming observations) only exists on this ROM due to ICS and the lack of roaming options on the rom itself. The radios do nothing to mess up roaming. This is all due to it being a TEST rom that we flashed. It's absurd to think that there is a perfectly functional rom sitting around with no bugs if the only leak we can get is a Virgin Mobile version. We have a beta rom and beta radios, and we should realize that's what we signed up for when we flashed it in the first place.
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I've been saying that the roaming problem (if it truly exists outside of people's self affirming observations) only exists on this ROM due to ICS and the lack of roaming options on the rom itself. The radios do nothing to mess up roaming. This is all due to it being a TEST rom that we flashed. It's absurd to think that there is a perfectly functional rom sitting around with no bugs if the only leak we can get is a Virgin Mobile version. We have a beta rom and beta radios, and we should realize that's what we signed up for when we flashed it in the first place.
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this is true... but again, what is your explanation of the galaxy nexus having the same issue, and the fact that a sprint rep was entirely aware of the issue and that is was being worked on and would come in an update?
and surprise, but any new technology is "beta" ..... whether it is an official release or not. it is the price you pay for cutting edge technology.
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So in essence this means that the firmware in the new radio update, which is necessary/part of ics to run on phones is the heart of the data, sms, etc. issues people are having?
There are some differences between how the ROM interacts with the both radios but so far it looks like everything can still be made to work.
If you're having issues with roaming try opening up the build.prop and change 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=0' to 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=1', and then use setprop to reset it. I haven't been able to test it yet but I'm fairly certain that will bring back roaming.
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So in essence this means that the firmware in the new radio update, which is necessary/part of ics to run on phones is the heart of the data, sms, etc. issues people are having?
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from what the lady explained to me, yes it is... intermittent data loss is a bug within the new firmware for ICS
my point here is that it has nothing to do with your ROM being intended for a virgin mobile 3D. it is because of a bug within the firmware for the radios.
as i said, sprint rep explained this to me, and seemed very confident in the way she explained it - confirming it as a known issue, and also knowing that it would be fixed soon because it was being worked on and said it would be serviced as a firmware update.
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You think a sprint tech in the store is an authority !!
For one thing, many may not care, you lose VPN capabilities. Which I need and want and has nothing to do with ICS. Flashed back to GingerBread an it's still gone.
You may also lose the ability to properly update the PRI when new ones come out with official ICS.
It is not just a banner issue.
I'm not in a roaming area to confirm roaming issues but I believe folks when they say they can no longer roam on th 3G. I never touched my default roaming settings and it always worked fine. You may be right that roaming is only ICS issue. But it smells like it's way more than that by folks reports. And quite believable given the phone half believes it's on Virgin Mobile.
It is the PRI which manages routing that is not correct. And different folks will get different issues depending on their location.
I don't think chad and friends would be working so hard to fix it if it was such minor issue and I trust them more than some sprint sales person.
Like was stated above. There are two kinds of people. Those with issues and those with no issues, YET !!
And please FIX the broken subject.
This all reeks of a panic due to us not understanding the new tech in the build we have. These issues may be a side effect of the ICS ROM or could just be issues with the way ICS interacts with the radios. The only information we have is hearsay, and people tend to overestimate effects of things when they don't know what they're looking for.
We get what we deserve for flashing beta radios and a beta rom, tbh. We accepted any possible problems by flashing these and we have nobody to blame but ourselves for not researching first.
"issues" is a vague word. whats to say a person's issue is due to ICS, the radios, or anything else in particular?
The new radios made me gain 20 pounds. There's no information showing that the radios did or didn't cause this. Yet here we are proverbially attributing all these issues to one thing or the other, when in reality WE DO NOT KNOW what is causing these problems.
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This all reeks of a panic due to us not understanding the new tech in the build we have. These issues may be a side effect of the ICS ROM or could just be issues with the way ICS interacts with the radios. The only information we have is hearsay, and people tend to overestimate effects of things when they don't know what they're looking for.
We get what we deserve for flashing beta radios and a beta rom, tbh. We accepted any possible problems by flashing these and we have nobody to blame but ourselves for not researching first.
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People here are not stupid. Most do backups before they try something.
I restored a backup and lost capabilities I had.
I reflashed every every sprint RUU, Reflash Hboot 1.40, restored back up and things are not the same.
If you flashed that freeza patch your phone has it's feet in both Sprint and Virgin Mobile and it's not good.
Yes, we know we screwed up. And some of us would like it fixed before we get more surprises of what does not work correctly.
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There are some differences between how the ROM interacts with the both radios but so far it looks like everything can still be made to work.
If you're having issues with roaming try opening up the build.prop and change 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=0' to 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=1', and then use setprop to reset it. I haven't been able to test it yet but I'm fairly certain that will bring back roaming.
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What is the "setprop" an ADB command? Do you have to use it. I edited the build.prop how you said reset the phone and nothing changed. I am roaming and cannot connect to data. My phone's data works fine when in a coverage area, but obviously not when roaming. I never did any kind of firmware update. Hope that helps.
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I've been saying that the roaming problem (if it truly exists outside of people's self affirming observations) only exists on this ROM due to ICS and the lack of roaming options on the rom itself. The radios do nothing to mess up roaming. This is all due to it being a TEST rom that we flashed. It's absurd to think that there is a perfectly functional rom sitting around with no bugs if the only leak we can get is a Virgin Mobile version. We have a beta rom and beta radios, and we should realize that's what we signed up for when we flashed it in the first place.
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This leak isn't a beta, its release keys...
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powduh09 said:
This leak isn't a beta, its release keys...
sent from my nocturnaled ics 3vo
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+1 this is a direct pull of the ruu for the upcoming vm evo 3d
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to anyone that hasn't seen it already, if you flashed this firmware, chad is working on a fix over that this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638225&page=41
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There are some differences between how the ROM interacts with the both radios but so far it looks like everything can still be made to work.
If you're having issues with roaming try opening up the build.prop and change 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=0' to 'persist.radio.voice.dom.roam=1', and then use setprop to reset it. I haven't been able to test it yet but I'm fairly certain that will bring back roaming.
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successfully implemented this. Hope this solves the no roaming issue. Thanks
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successfully implemented this. Hope this solves the no roaming issue. Thanks
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How were you able to do this? I'm trying to research a little on setprop.....but still not fully understanding it
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